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Joey

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Jun 8, 2003, 4:03:26 AM6/8/03
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All,
I need some help. I have an uncircumsised penis and am having
thoughts about getting it circumsised. I think the reason why I am
having it is probably incorrect. Can someone please help me
understand what is going on?
The thing is that, I can get the foreskin back and below the head,
however it is really tight and hurts sometimes. But I can get it
back. Now the issue is that, while trying to have sex the penis seems
to bend and I am not sure, if it is due to the foreskin which is right
below the head. I am kinda of confused and would really appreciate if
someone could please help.

Thanks,
Joey.

DarrinT68

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Jun 8, 2003, 4:37:08 AM6/8/03
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>Subject: Need Help
>From: joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey)
>Date: 6/8/03 4:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <cad09bef.03060...@posting.google.com>

Joey, "painful sex" is the #1 complaint amongst foreskinstein SHLEPPERS. The
math is simple: You are carrying an impediment that should have gone out with
Neanderthal man. ehe i.e. If a flap of skin grew over your TUSH, would you
revel in the feces & bacteria that it traps!? Of course not! You would run to
the doctor to have it removed. The same rationale should apply to foreskin. I
always come back to my John "The Elephant Man" Merrick analogy: "I am not an
animal, I am a human being!" The removal of foreskin is precisely what
separates us from the animals. Humans were not meant to carry unwanted
appendages around. Fortunately for you, God remembered to design a back up
plan: a simple, safe & beneficial procedure known as circumcision. The most
common cut in all of medicine. Now don't be a PUTZ! - go circumcise that PUTZ &
FEH! already!ehehe -D, NYC "Born imperfect, made perfect on the eighth day"


Neal Smith

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Jun 8, 2003, 8:57:03 AM6/8/03
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You don't say how old you are. I'm going to assume that you are a
teen.

It sounds like the opening of the foreskin is still tight. If this is
the case, gentle stretching is usually the answer. This often clears
up during the teen years as a result of masturbation. If medical help
is needed, there is a cream, 0.05% betamethasone, that helps the skin
stretch. It is perscription only, so you will have to see a doctor to
get it. But it is almost always successful. See
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/dewan/

About the "foreskin which is right below the head:" It sounds to me
like your frenulum is too tight. The frenulum is the web of skin on
the bottom of the penis that that connects the inside of the foreskin
to the glans. It will stretch over time. Again, masturbation that
gently stretches the frenulum is helpful.

I had two friends who had a tight frenulum (I was born a long time ago
when about half the guys in the US were intact). One reports that
when he became really sexually active in his 20s the frenulum
stretched and is now quite loose. The other, at about age 21, took
matters into his own hands and cut his frenulum. He was in the Navy,
a corpsman (medic), and had access to the scapels, etc., that he
needed to do it safely. I suspect that 0.05% betamethasone cream
would work as well on a frenulum as the tip of the foreskin, but
cannot point you to a reference.

If you decide to go for a circumcision, post again before you do it.
I have advice on what to get cut and what to leave.

Neal

Note: To contact, remove the ".NS" from address

Intact

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Jun 8, 2003, 11:39:20 AM6/8/03
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joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey) wrote in message news:<cad09bef.03060...@posting.google.com>...

Read "Saving the normal foreskin" at
http://www.cirp.org/library/general/gordon/ where it is said (inter
alia):

"These data suggest that overall between 1% and 2% of boys need
circumcision for medical indications. The cumulative national rate of
circumcision for boys by the age of 15 is almost 7%.10 If findings
from Liverpool are representative of the rest of Britain then many
unnecessary circumcisions are being performed. each year at
considerable cost to the health service and morbidity for patients".
"To discourage unnecessary circumcision a distinction needs to be made
between physiological and pathological non-retractability. Gairdner,
who examined a large number of normal children during their first five
months of life, observed that at birth only 4% of children had
fully retractile prepuces, while in half the prepuce was partially
retractile.1 By the age of 5 years slightly more than 90% of boys had
retractile foreskins".

Kenny Thomas

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Jun 8, 2003, 12:58:27 PM6/8/03
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Painful sex is not the #1 complaint. The problem that Joey here has is rare
and can be fixed WITHOUT a circumcision.

The removal of the foreskin is NOT what seperates us from the animals
either, we have a poseable thumb, we walk upright, we live in groups of
others who we don't know, we have a currency system and a society. Removing
a body part does not seperate us from the animals. By your analogy, anyone
with a foreskin is an animal. Total crap.

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Hugh Young

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Jun 9, 2003, 3:26:53 AM6/9/03
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On 8 Jun 2003 01:03:26 -0700, joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey) said:

>All,
>I need some help. I have an uncircumsised penis and am having
>thoughts about getting it circumsised. I think the reason why I am
>having it is probably incorrect.

It is.

> Can someone please help me
>understand what is going on?
>The thing is that, I can get the foreskin back and below the head,
>however it is really tight and hurts sometimes. But I can get it
>back.

Right. It can be loosened non-surgically.

> Now the issue is that, while trying to have sex the penis seems
>to bend and I am not sure, if it is due to the foreskin which is right
>below the head.

The same loosening of your forskin will relieve this condition
(frenulum breve).

> I am kinda of confused and would really appreciate if
>someone could please help.

You will get replies from idiots (and I see you have one already) who
will tell you the only thing to do is get circumcised. You can tell by
their tone and their ignorance that they are operating out of "misery
loves company" rather than any real knowledge or experience.

You can find out more about loosening your foreskin at
http://www.circumstitions.com/Glossary.html#phimosis and the links
from there.


Intoxicatingmoon

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Jun 9, 2003, 9:11:46 AM6/9/03
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>From: joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey)


You have Phimosis......most Drs. will recommend that you be circumcised

Intoxicatingmoon

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Jun 9, 2003, 9:12:15 AM6/9/03
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Which is the best thing for you!

Intact

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Jun 9, 2003, 10:02:53 AM6/9/03
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darr...@aol.com (DarrinT68) wrote in message > separates us from the animals. > Humans were not meant to carry unwanted
> appendages around.
> FEH! already!ehehe -D, NYC "Born imperfect, made perfect on the eighth day"

They eyelids are quite unnecessary and an appendage that should be
removed eight days after birth. It traps unwanted bacteria and keeps
the eyelids moist and wet. Humans do not need eyelids.

Joey

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Jun 9, 2003, 1:49:11 PM6/9/03
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All,

Thank you so much for all the information. I have been reading
through all the information and it does like at the moment that I am
strongly considering not to get a circumcision and try out alternate
methods before I think about it again.

There is one small thing that is still worrying me and that is that,

> > Now the issue is that, while trying to have sex the penis seems
> >to bend and I am not sure, if it is due to the foreskin which is right
> >below the head.

Meaning when I pull back the foreskin, all of it gets accumlated at
the end of the penis. Is this the way it should be? - Thereby
creating a lump of skin below the penis head.

Thank you again for all the posts.

- Joey.

Kenny Thomas

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Jun 9, 2003, 10:21:39 PM6/9/03
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No, if he had phimosis he wouldn't be able to retract it at all.

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<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Join the TACEP forum where you can discuss
circumcision troll free! Have a problem with your
foreskin? Trying to decide to circumcise or not? The
TACEP forum is for you! Visit us at:
http://www.tacep.org/
See ya there!


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Jon

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Jun 10, 2003, 12:17:58 AM6/10/03
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darr...@aol.com (DarrinT68) wrote in message news:<20030608043708...@mb-m18.aol.com>...

> >Subject: Need Help
> >From: joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey)
> >Date: 6/8/03 4:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <cad09bef.03060...@posting.google.com>
>
> >All,>I need some help. I have an uncircumsised penis and am having
> >thoughts about getting it circumsised. I think the reason why I am>having it
> is probably incorrect. Can someone please help me>understand what is going on?
> >The thing is that, I can get the foreskin back and below the head,>however it
> is really tight and hurts sometimes. But I can get it>back. Now the issue is
> that, while trying to have sex the penis seems
> >to bend and I am not sure, if it is due to the foreskin which is right>below
> the head. I am kinda of confused and would really appreciate if>someone could
> please help.>Thanks,>Joey.>>

Pull it back GENTLY, Joey. Don't pull it back any farther than need
be. In time, enough of this pulling will end the adhesions.

> Joey, "painful sex" is the #1 complaint amongst foreskinstein SHLEPPERS.

"Foreskinstein"? LOL Schmuck.

> The
> math is simple: You are carrying an impediment that should have gone out with
> Neanderthal man.

And why? How do you know a thing about Neanderthal penises? Show me
the evidence of Neanderthals having longer foreskins than HSS and I'll
show you Piltdown. And if Homo erectus had a shorter foreskin than
HSS, your entire theory falls apart.

> ehe i.e. If a flap of skin grew over your TUSH, would you
> revel in the feces & bacteria that it traps!?

Something no mammal has, for that exact reason. Yet the foreskin not
only survived, but you can't name a mammal that doesn't have a
foreskin.

> Of course not! You would run to
> the doctor to have it removed. The same rationale should apply to foreskin. I
> always come back to my John "The Elephant Man" Merrick analogy: "I am not an
> animal, I am a human being!"

That's not why he was called the Elephant Man.

> The removal of foreskin is precisely what
> separates us from the animals.

Ah, a polygenist, I see. Do you care to fill my skull with lead shot
too? Or am I too tall, and you won't like the results? And what
species, per se, are women, who cannot circumcise.

> Humans were not meant to carry unwanted
> appendages around.

Well, there goes your appendix, your coccyx, your junk DNA, and let's
not forget redundant organs.

> Fortunately for you, God remembered to design a back up
> plan:

Doesn't omniscience preclude the need for backup plans?

> a simple, safe & beneficial procedure known as circumcision. The most
> common cut in all of medicine.

I don't think religious leaders count as "medicine". Someone can do
both, but mohelim don't, for example, prescribe drugs. Nor do they
excise tumors.

Winding Highway

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Jun 10, 2003, 12:24:25 AM6/10/03
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>From: joeytr...@yahoo.com (Joey)
>Date: 6/8/2003 4:03 AM Eastern Standard Time

>I have an uncircumsised penis and am having
>thoughts about getting it circumsised. I think the reason why I am
>having it is probably incorrect

There is no"incorrect" reason for getting circumcised. Any reason is a good
reason.

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