Kobe Bryant: Bible-believing Christian???
Angelo
fore June 30, and some after -- which may or may not be revealing.
They certainly raise a lot of questions about his true character.
Seems Kobe is the product of a reasonably close-knit family with at
least some sense of family values. (Was he raised religious?) And
Kobe did play his first championship season on the Lakers with leg-
endary NBA "Iron Man," devout Christian, notorious virgin and sexual
abstainer, A.C. Green (now married), of the old 1980s Showtime Lakers.
"She looks just like Vanessa, thank God!"
-- Kobe Bryant, upon the birth of his daughter (January 19, 2003) http://www.google.com/search?num=100&&filter=0&q=Kobe+%22She+looks+just+like+Vanessa+thank+God%22
"It's right there in the Bible. When you get married, your
mother and father and sisters are no longer the priority. Your
wife and daughter are the priority. That's the way it has to be."
-- Kobe Bryant (April 2003) http://new.blackvoices.com/sports/nationworld/bv-kobe-parents,0,7785322.story?coll=bv-sports-topstories http://www.google.com/search?num=100&filter=0&q=Kobe+%22It%27s+right+there+in+the+Bible%22
"I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night
and I pray that both will forgive me....My family and I are going
to need your support and prayers now more than ever."
-- Kobe Bryant (July 18, 2003)
http://new.blackvoices.com/sports/la-071803statement_wr,0,889926.story http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=Kobe+%22have+to+answer+to+my+wife+and+my+God%22 http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=Kobe+%22need+your+support+and+prayers+now+more+than+ever%22
"With God's will, the sun will rise and shine again. Thanks for your
support; thanks for your prayers."
-- Kobe Bryant (August 2, 2003) http://news.google.com/news?num=100&scoring=d&filter=0&q=Kobe+%22with+God%27s+will%22+%22thanks+for+your+prayers%22
Kobe & Vanessa Bryant both wearing the Christian cross (August 2, 2003).
a) Christian symbol indicating true personal faith in Jesus Christ?
b) Phony Hollywood fashion statement to appear hip to a young crowd?
c) Instructed to project a public Christian image by cutthroat attorneys?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030803/168/4vet0.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030803/170/4vcb9.html
Does Kobe believe in God? Does Kobe actually read the Bible? Does
Kobe have a private personal faith in Jesus Christ? Does Kobe pray?
Or is it all just bogus, plastic, phony, celebrity "spirituality"?
Is Kobe merely catching a sudden case of "jailhouse religion"? Or has
the fiercely private Bryant been a private believer all along who now
faces four-to-life in a Colorado prison for a stupid one-time adultery?
Have the tabloids been able to uncover any other Kobe adulteries yet?
Or has he been faithful until now? Is Kobe's God merely laying "trials
and tribulations" on Kobe just to make sure he NEVER fucks up again?
And is there perhaps some unforeseen good to result from all of this?
If Kobe somehow gets out of this jam, would he ever cheat again? Or
is he just like so many others who would only repeat the same mistake?
Is Kobe now fucked for life for letting his dick wander for 20 minutes?
Is Kobe really a coldblooded rapist hiding behind pathetic religiosity?
Or is he actually a true believer and faithful husband who just hap-
pened to succumb to temptation one time in a rare moment of weakness?
If Kobe is indeed just another overpaid NBA thug and a serial adulterer
or rapist, one would think he might have learned to choose his "hoes" a
little more carefully by now (or at least have someone do it for him).
Bet Kobe wishes he was "Oldhead" A.C. Green on the night of June 30.
"... if I could just turn back the hands of time ..."
-- Kobe Bryant (July 18, 2003) http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=Kobe+%22if+I+could+just+turn+back+the+hands+of%22 http://news.google.com/news?num=100&scoring=d&q=Kobe+%22if+I+could+just+turn+back+the+hands+of%22
Kobe Bryant: Some Christian views
"Pray For Kobe" Website
http://www.prayforkobe.com/
SBC Baptist Press - Ask Kobe what he's learning
http://www.baptistpress.org/printcolumn.asp?ID=1060
Biblical King David's ("consensual") adultery; busted by Nathan the prophet http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=2SAM+11:2-4,12:1-13&version=KJV&interface=print
Psalm of David after being busted by the prophet Nathan for committing adultery http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=PS+51:1-17&version=KJV&interface=print
Kobe Bryant: Some opposing views
Is this Lake a faker? Only a trial will tell
http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay20.html
The Raving Atheist: Kobe Bryant’s God, Wife, to Try Adultery Charges http://www.ravingatheist.com/archives/kobe_bryants_god_wife_to_try_adultery_charges.html
Chayil
to be a Christian or not. If he is and he repents, the Lord will forgive
him. If he is not, then he needs to be saved. Only God knows for sure.
Regardless of who or what Kobe claims to be, there are numerous people not
so well known who need the Lord. We know that time is short and we
ourselves must be living witnesses. If you have the opportunity to witness
to Kobe, great. If not, keep going where God sends you.
By the way, do you care at all about the woman in question? I don't know if
she is claiming Christianity either, but the point is let's look past the
stardom and seek the lost...whoever they are.
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Chayil
may follow my Shepherd as one of His precious sheep. For someone who
doesn't believe, you sure summed it up pretty well.
"The Shocker?" That's your claim to fame and you can't do any better than
"God doesn't exist?" Boy, that's a bit disappointing. Well, if God really
doesn't exist then why are you fighting so hard against Him? I mean, if you
REALLY believe that He doesn't exist, then why waste time saying so? Kind
of like boxing at the wind. Hey, I know! Maybe you should change your
name to Shadow Boxer!
"C The Shocker" <chri...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> "Chayil" <cha...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > Don't mean to sound heartless, but I don't really care whether Kobe
claims
> > to be a Christian or not. If he is and he repents, the Lord will
forgive
> > him. If he is not, then he needs to be saved. Only God knows for sure.
> > Regardless of who or what Kobe claims to be, there are numerous people
not
> > so well known who need the Lord. We know that time is short and we
> > ourselves must be living witnesses. If you have the opportunity to
> witness
> > to Kobe, great. If not, keep going where God sends you.
> >
> > By the way, do you care at all about the woman in question? I don't
know
> if
> > she is claiming Christianity either, but the point is let's look past
the
> > stardom and seek the lost...whoever they are.
>
> God doesn't exist and you are a mindless sheep for believing in him.
>
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>
Gary Collard
>
> Does Kobe believe in God? Does Kobe actually read the Bible? Does
> Kobe have a private personal faith in Jesus Christ? Does Kobe pray?
> Or is it all just bogus, plastic, phony, celebrity "spirituality"?
He always has been a Christian, from what is in his bio "Mad Game." It is
mentioned many times, from ending phone calls back to an old friend with a
mutual prayer to being part of a spiritual band among other things, and the
book is about 3 years old, so no revisionist stuff there and no reason to
believe it is not true.
> Have the tabloids been able to uncover any other Kobe adulteries yet?
No, and there's a lot of cash out there looking for them.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
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"To do human DNA testing you need humans, and these two monsters quite
frankly didn't have a single helix between them. But I'm pretty sure
a check of dental records will show they bit off more than they could
chew." -- Dennis Miller on Uday and Qusay Huessein
TADPOLEdrummer
Count me in among the "mindless"
<~~ "mindless" and never been happier :O)
Ally
The_Bede
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> "Chayil" <cha...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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claims
> > to be a Christian or not. If he is and he repents, the Lord will
forgive
> > him. If he is not, then he needs to be saved. Only God knows for sure.
> > Regardless of who or what Kobe claims to be, there are numerous people
not
> > so well known who need the Lord. We know that time is short and we
> > ourselves must be living witnesses. If you have the opportunity to
> witness
> > to Kobe, great. If not, keep going where God sends you.
> >
> > By the way, do you care at all about the woman in question? I don't
know
> if
> > she is claiming Christianity either, but the point is let's look past
the
> > stardom and seek the lost...whoever they are.
>
>
religion and the Lakers.
the Bede
:-)>
forgives Kobe
Terraholm
"Gary Collard" <garyc...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
> No, and there's a lot of cash out there looking for them.
Kobe could outbid them....
--
Laurel T
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."
Lucius Seneca
Angelo
> Angelo wrote:
> >
> > Does Kobe believe in God? Does Kobe actually read the Bible? Does
> > Kobe have a private personal faith in Jesus Christ? Does Kobe pray?
> > Or is it all just bogus, plastic, phony, celebrity "spirituality"?
>
> He always has been a Christian, from what is in his bio "Mad Game." It is
> mentioned many times, from ending phone calls back to an old friend with a
> mutual prayer to being part of a spiritual band among other things, and the
> book is about 3 years old, so no revisionist stuff there and no reason to
> believe it is not true.
Thanks for the info, Gary. So Kobe and Fisher are the Lakers' Christians, eh?
http://www.connectionmagazine.org/2002_04/sp_derek_fisher.htm
> > Have the tabloids been able to uncover any other Kobe adulteries yet?
>
> No, and there's a lot of cash out there looking for them.
That sorta puts things in a whole different perspective. Thus far, it would
appear that Kobe has been "blessed" by the royal shaft of Colorado justice in
his very first "inappropriate" relationship -- assuming, of course, that it
truly wasn't rape. Just the fact that he recklessly allowed himself to get
into such an outrageous and precarious predicament suggests he's an amateur.
No bodyguards present? Quick, spontaneous, unprotected sex with a strange
19-year-old white girl in an all-white town, in an all-white county, in pre-
dominately white "Crackerado"? Whose bright idea was that? Sheesh, "the Lord
works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform." Kobe might as well be at the
edge of the Red Sea with water up to his ankles and the Egyptians right behind.
If the DA's case is really as strong and "slam-dunk" as it's made out to be by
some, then even unbelieving Lakers fans might begin to consider hoping for a
miracle (or at least a legal parachute, as it were) for defendant Mr. Bryant.
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-Parachute-
An airplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board but only 4
parachutes.
The 1st passenger said, "I am Kobe Bryant, the best NBA basketball player, the
Lakers need me, I can't afford to die." So he took the 1st pack and left the plane.
The 2nd passenger, Hillary Clinton, said, "I am the wife of the former US President,
a NY State Senator and a potential future president." So she took the 2nd pack and
jumped out of the plane.
The 3rd passenger, George W. Bush, said, "I'm the president of the United States of
America. I have great responsibility being the leader of a superpower nation. And I
am the cleverest president in American history, so America's people won't let me die."
So he grabbed the pack next to him and jumped out of the plane.
The 4th passenger, the Pope, said to the 5th passenger, a 10 year old schoolgirl, "I
am old and frail and don't have many years left, and as a Catholic I will sacrifice
my life and let you have the last parachute."
The girl said, "It's okay, there is a parachute left for you. America's cleverest
president has taken my schoolbag."
http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~sfurrow/tennen/parachute.html
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John
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> God doesn't exist and you are a mindless sheep for believing in him.
>
Would an auto mechanic take advice from a chef about cars? Amatuer
philosophers will never put a dent into the thinking of people who really
know God.
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C The Shocker
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> >
> > God doesn't exist and you are a mindless sheep for believing in him.
> >
>
> Would an auto mechanic take advice from a chef about cars? Amatuer
> philosophers will never put a dent into the thinking of people who really
> know God.
You know George Burns? I thought he was dead!
The extent of your self-delusions is astonishing.
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John D
>Does Kobe believe in God? Does Kobe actually read the Bible? Does
>Kobe have a private personal faith in Jesus Christ? Does Kobe pray?
>Or is it all just bogus, plastic, phony, celebrity "spirituality"?
Yes, he probably is a beleiver. We can never say for certain, not
that it really matters to us.
But it is troubling that he plays for the "Lakers" whose name is a
clear reference to the Lake of Fire prepared for Satan and his
minions. This is why Christians (at least here in California) have to
be Sacramento fans, since "Kings" clearly refers to the King of Kings.
John
Chayil
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> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 04:38:20 GMT, johnyay...@yahoo.com (John D)
blurted:
What's even more scary is that I thought it was rather funny!
Chris
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C The Shocker
> Don't mean to sound heartless, but I don't really care whether Kobe claims
> to be a Christian or not. If he is and he repents, the Lord will forgive
> him. If he is not, then he needs to be saved. Only God knows for sure.
> Regardless of who or what Kobe claims to be, there are numerous people not
> so well known who need the Lord. We know that time is short and we
> ourselves must be living witnesses. If you have the opportunity to
witness
> to Kobe, great. If not, keep going where God sends you.
>
> By the way, do you care at all about the woman in question? I don't know
if
> she is claiming Christianity either, but the point is let's look past the
> stardom and seek the lost...whoever they are.
God doesn't exist and you are a mindless sheep for believing in him.
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C The Shocker - B.O.B. Member #6
Shoutcast Server: http://chrispdx.audio-stream.net:8000
mich...@gmail.com
Not every person who says "Lord, Lord!" so ears around him can hear, is a Christian, and not everyone who stays quiet, only professing inwardly, should be charged as not being a Christian. How then, do we know who is lost? We don't, but God does and if we have His spiritual understanding and are willing, He will lead us to cross paths with that person. The Holy Spirit will then cause us to open our mouths to speak boldly the gospel to the lost souls. Not as if we are speaking like a robot whos been commanded, but like when you can't but speak at that moment, in that place. Everything goes quiet..it's as if the two of you are in a vacuum, when Spirit speaks to spirit. Because we know that faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word of God. May the Lord continue to use you, me and all who have received His power and His heart to faithfully defend, uplift and extol Jesus' work upon the cross.
