Re: BREAKING NEWS - Mass Murderer Nidal Malik Hasan Is A Republican & NRA / GOA Member In Good Standing
Scout
> Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's family says he confided in them that he felt
> harassed as a Muslim in the U.S. military ? and wasn't treated as an
> American and soldier should be.
Bullshit, there are all sorts of programs to prevent or stop any such
harrasment or discrimination. This is a cop out.
> He visibly lived his faith, wearing his military uniform to services
> and a cap and tunic around his apartment complex. But one day, he
> discovered his "Allah is Love" bumper sticker was ripped up and torn,
> and his car was keyed. A fellow soldier was charged, and the
> apartment manager where the two lived said the serviceman had
> recently returned from Iraq and was upset that Hasan is Muslim.
Ah, poor baby, he thinks his is the only car that has ever been vandalized.
Something similar happened to me while I was in the military, and oddly
enough I didn't think the solution was to grab a gun and start killing
people.
As an officer and a professional he need to fucking grow up and take
responsibility for his actions and not try to blame them on others.
In short, Man up, asshole.
Harold Burton
Winston_Smith <not_rep...@bogus.net> wrote:
> Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's family says he confided in them that he felt
> harassed
> as a Muslim in the U.S. military ? and wasn't treated as an American and
> soldier
> should be.
>
> He visibly lived his faith, wearing his military uniform to services and a
> cap
> and tunic around his apartment complex. But one day, he discovered his "Allah
> is
> Love" bumper sticker was ripped up and torn, and his car was keyed. A fellow
> soldier was charged, and the apartment manager where the two lived said the
> serviceman had recently returned from Iraq and was upset that Hasan is
> Muslim.
>
> Authorities don't know if Hasan's faith or encounters with other soldiers
> played
> any role in the attack at Fort Hood, and a motive is still not clear. They
> say
> he jumped atop a desk and began firing on his fellow soldiers, yelling
> "Allahu
> akbar!" ? a phrase that means "God is great!" in Arabic ? as he set off on a
> rampage that killed 13 and wounded 29 others.
>
> Still, some of the thousands of Muslims in the U.S. military worry that one
> burst of violence could unravel all of their work to be accepted as loyal,
> dedicated soldiers, and that their reputation could be another casualty of
> the
> attack.
>
> "Just as this guy in Fort Hood doesn't represent every single Muslim in the
> world or in this county, the few ignorant or racist people that remain in the
> military, they are so few and far between, they do not represent the military
> at
> large," said Ashkan Bayatpour, 25, a U.S. Navy veteran and the American-born
> son
> of Iranian immigrants.
>
> Army Chief of Staff George Casey said this week he worried about a backlash
> after the shootings. However, leaders of the American Muslim Armed Forces and
> Veterans Affairs Council predict that any backlash will be limited. Military
> personnel often have a more sophisticated world view after traveling the
> globe
> and working with people from diverse backgrounds, said Abdul-Rashid Abdullah,
> a
> U.S. Army veteran who served from 1991 to 1998.
>
> Most importantly, he said, they form strong bonds with their fellow soldiers.
> In
> his weekly radio and Internet address, President Barack Obama noted those
> bonds,
> too.
>
> "They are Americans of every race, faith and station. They are Christians and
> Muslims, Jews and Hindus and nonbelievers," Obama said. "They are descendants
> of
> immigrants and immigrants themselves. They reflect the diversity that makes
> this
> America. But what they share is a patriotism like no other."
>
> There is no exact count of Muslims in the military. The Pentagon lists 3,557
> Muslims out of 1.4 million U.S. servicemembers, however the figure is likely
> low
> because the disclosure is voluntary, military officials said.
>
> The Army trains officers to be sensitive to Muslim culture because the nation
> is
> anxious to hand over security responsibilities in Iraq and Afghanistan to
> local
> authorities. But when combat troops are trained with war games, the soldiers
> playing "enemy" are often wearing head scarfs or traditional Muslim caps and
> knee-length tunics in mock villages or other surroundings with fake roadside
> bombs and exchanges of "gunfire."
>
> Bob Jenkins, a spokesman at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, said that the notion
> of
> fighting an enemy with commonalities to U.S. servicemembers is not new ? and
> that other soldiers have had to come to terms with that in past conflicts.
>
> "There is really no difference if you get someone who is of Italian heritage
> in
> World War II and send them into Italy to fight the people who backed
> Mussolini," he said. "There are some things you have to come to grips with."
>
> The armed services have a clear, well-known policy against discrimination,
> said
> Imam Yahya Hendi, a Georgetown University chaplain who has worked for more
> than
> a decade with U.S. military personnel. The military requires servicemembers
> to
> respect others' beliefs, and he has found officers take complaints of
> prejudice
> very seriously.
>
> He noted that the U.S. military is desperate to recruit American Muslims and
> make them feel welcome because, like many government agencies, the Armed
> Services need people with knowledge of Islam, Muslim culture and the Arabic
> language. Hendi has traveled to military bases nationwide, including several
> visits to Fort Hood, holding classes for soldiers deploying to Afghanistan
> and
> Iraq.
>
> Still, Hendi said policies and sensitivity training can't stop every snide
> comment. He said rank-and-file Muslim servicemembers have complained to him
> of
> being asked whether "you guys always pray to destroy us," or "Are you going
> to
> do what your people do?'"
>
> Hendi said he has encountered a few people during his trainings who consider
> the
> Muslim religion, not extremism, the real threat to national security.
>
> "There are always individuals who don't want to believe what you're saying
> about
> Muslims or Islam," he said. "They think you're evil."
>
> Bayatpour, who grew up in Mobile, Ala., and served in Iraq, said it was rare
> to
> hear offensive comments about his religion from fellow servicemembers. He
> said
> he found his presence in the Navy encouraged questions about what Islam
> teaches,
> and would often spark conversation about commonalities between Islam and
> Christianity.
>
> There have been pockets of conflict over religion in the military in recent
> years with accusations that Christian officers are evangelizing and creating
> an
> uncomfortable environment for underlings. However, Bayatpour said no one ever
> tried to persuade him to convert. The closest anyone came was giving him a
> copy
> of the best-selling book "The Purpose-Driven Life."
>
> Lt. Col. Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad, 57, the U.S. military's first Muslim
> chaplain,
> said he's experienced little prejudice in the Army because of his religion
> and
> has heard of few complaints from other Muslims on base. Off base is worse, he
> said. He has been delayed at airports and had his luggage searched.
>
> Retired Marine Col. Doug Burpee, 52, who converted to Islam three decades ago
> to
> marry a Muslim woman, said fellow Marines were more curious about his
> religion
> than upset by it. He does remember Marines of similar rank chiding him,
> saying
> things such as, "Burpee's a traitor. He was a Christian and he's a Muslim."
> But
> he dismissed the comments as "guy stuff."
>
> "It is that kind of football banter that goes on," said Burpee, a business
> development manager from Glendale, Calif.
Snicker.
Strabo
> Winston_Smith <not_rep...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
> An obvious and pathetic forgery. This post goes to several groups but
> is set up to not reply to misc.survivalism. That trick was just used
> in another post by "None4U". Right down to the exact same group list.
>
> WS in misc.survivalism
>
Think it was CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations)? They learned
from the ADL and AIPAC.
Looks like something they'd do.
slate_leeper
<not_rep...@bogus.net> wrote:
The story that you posted says absolutely nothing to support the
claims in your subject line. So what does that make you?
Protect your civil rights!
Let the politicians know how you feel.
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RD (The Sandman)
news:MPG.255fd7df2...@news.aioe.org:
> Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's family says he confided in them that he felt
> harassed as a Muslim in the U.S. military ? and wasn't treated as an
> American and soldier should be.
Nothing in the article suggests any of the claims in your header. Do you
always make shit up?
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?