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mars...@windstream.net

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Apr 9, 2018, 8:06:33 AM4/9/18
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The Unholy Trinity

It was defined by men, not God. (see Council of Nicaea 325 A.D.)

It contradicts Scripture. (see Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29)

Makes God out to have mental issues. (see Mark 13:32)

Taken from the pagans. For example notice these trinities:
Egypt= There was Osiris, Isis, and Horus.
There was Amen, Mut, and Khonsu.
There was Khnum, Satis, and Anukis.
The Hindu trinity had Brahman, Siva, and Vishnu.
Ect.

Notice,
"This doctrine has been a stumbling block for Christians (and others!)
since its inception. That it was constructed not out of a desire to
understand God, but from a vendetta against a heresy (e.g. Arianism),
is perhaps what makes it as nonsensical as it seems. It was not
designed as a rational theology; it was designed only to refute other
theologies." (http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/trinity.html)

God has rank and order: 1 Cor 11:3,

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and
the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." (NIV)

Yes, even in Heaven, God is superior to Jesus.

As this encyclopedia says:

"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since." (1976,
Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.)

To summarize:

**The Trinity was created by imperfect men.
**It contradicts Scripture.
**Accuses God of mental issues.
**Copies the false 'trinity' gods of pagandom.
**Was designed to refute other religious beliefs, not to be rational.
**The word “Trinity” is not found in the Bible.
**No Bible writer, including Paul, mentioned God as a Trinity. None.
**Was introduced by the end of the 4th century, long after the Bible
writing was completed.


With the above evidence, can you blame a person for not believing in
the post-Biblical 4th century Trinity?


Sincerely, James

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Steve Hayes

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:45:52 PM4/9/18
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:07:15 -0400, mars...@windstream.net wrote:

>The Unholy Trinity

The unholy trinity is described in Revelation 12-13, and comprises the
devil, the beast from the sea and the beast from the land.

It is a caricature or parody of the Holy Trinity.


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Steve Hayes
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DR...@teikyopost.edu

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Apr 10, 2018, 10:21:18 AM4/10/18
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On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:06:33 AM UTC-4, mars...@windstream.net wrote:
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> The Unholy Trinity
>
> It was defined by men, not God. (see Council of Nicaea 325 A.D.)

On Page 25 of his Introduction at

https://books.google.com/books?id=WV7Teosv0bIC&pg=PA1&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false

the Anglican priest Maxwell Staniforth wrote:

"Again in the doctrine of the Trinity, the ecclesiastical conception
of Father, Word, and Spirit finds its germ in the different Stoic
names of the Divine Unity. Thus Seneca, writing of the supreme Power
which shapes the universe, states, 'This Power we sometimes call the
All-ruling God, sometimes the incorporeal Wisdom, sometimes the holy
Spirit, sometimes Destiny.' The Church had only to reject the last
of these terms to arrive at its own acceptable definition of the
Divine Nature; while the further assertion 'these three are One',
which the modern mind finds paradoxical, was no more than commonplace
to those familiar with Stoic notions."

mars...@windstream.net

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Apr 10, 2018, 12:41:56 PM4/10/18
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:50:06 +0200, Steve Hayes
<haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:07:15 -0400, mars...@windstream.net wrote:
>
>>The Unholy Trinity
>
>The unholy trinity is described in Revelation 12-13, and comprises the
>devil, the beast from the sea and the beast from the land.
>
>It is a caricature or parody of the Holy Trinity.

See my response to this before.

Steve Hayes

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Apr 11, 2018, 6:38:07 AM4/11/18
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:27:06 -0400, Mars...@windstream.net wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:50:06 +0200, Steve Hayes
><haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:07:15 -0400, mars...@windstream.net wrote:
>>
>>>The Unholy Trinity
>>
>>The unholy trinity is described in Revelation 12-13, and comprises the
>>devil, the beast from the sea and the beast from the land.
>>
>>It is a caricature or parody of the Holy Trinity.
>
>That can't be, since when the apostle John wrote Revelation, he knew
>nothing about God existing as a Trinity. That concept was defined long
>after the whole Bible was written. (around the 4th century)


It could be and was, since John told us that the Word was God (not "a
god" as the corrupt JW version mistranslates it). And John saw his
glory. He was long-lived, but didn't make it to the 4th century.

DR...@teikyopost.edu

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Apr 11, 2018, 9:00:26 AM4/11/18
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Two years ago, when I read Page 24 of Staniforth's Introduction,

https://books.google.com/books?id=WV7Teosv0bIC

I was fascinated to learn that Logos "had long been one of the
leading terms of Stoicism, chosen originally for the purpose of
explaining how deity came into relation with the universe," and
that the author of the beginning of John's Gospel, who evidently
was well-versed in Stoic Philosophy, identified Jesus as a
manifestation of the Logos. I had never heard this discussed in
homilies/sermons that are delivered in a complete vacuum.

This notion became more enthralling last year, when I heard that,
around 500 BC, the philosopher Heraclitus had made the cryptic
statement: "All entities come to be in accordance with this Logos."
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