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Michael Christ
Apr 5, 2021, 3:16:27 AM4/5/21
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On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>
> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>
> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>
> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>
> Praise GOD!!!
>
15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
Why does he have to say that??
And there you have it!!!
Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".
"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".
"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".
"Compromise will condemn you".
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life".
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>
> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>
> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>
> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>
> Praise GOD!!!
>
15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
Why does he have to say that??
And there you have it!!!
Michael Christ
--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".
"Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".
"What makes the bible the truth?" "The resonance of God".
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".
"Compromise will condemn you".
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life".
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."
Michael Christ
Apr 5, 2021, 7:59:47 PM4/5/21
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On 6/04/2021 3:13 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>
> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>
You need to start listening.
Speaking about the Gospel!!
'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
They're frauds. Pretending to be what they are not, representatives of
the gospel!!!
By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>
>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>
>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>
>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>
>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>
>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>
>> Why does he have to say that??
>>
>> And there you have it!!!
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> Would you mind filling me in with what was being taught at that moment?
>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>
>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>
>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>
>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>
>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>
>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>
>> Why does he have to say that??
>>
>> And there you have it!!!
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
>
> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>
You need to start listening.
Speaking about the Gospel!!
'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
They're frauds. Pretending to be what they are not, representatives of
the gospel!!!
By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ollie Smth
Apr 5, 2021, 8:31:39 PM4/5/21
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On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 5:16:27 PM UTC+10, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
> >
> > Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
> >
> > He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
> >
> > And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
> >
> > Praise GOD!!!
For this time of year, I would imagine his Easter message would be appropriate.
> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
> >
> > Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
> >
> > He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
> >
> > And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
> >
> > Praise GOD!!!
E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omlTZfO_7rA&ab_channel=DuaneSheriffMinistries
Rod
Apr 5, 2021, 10:46:51 PM4/5/21
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On 4/5/2021 8:36 PM, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4g89h$t5b$1...@dont-email.me>):
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>
>> On 6/04/2021 3:13 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>>>
>>>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>>>
>>>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>>>
>>>> Why does he have to say that??
>>>>
>>>> And there you have it!!!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> Would you mind filling me in with what was being taught at that moment?
>>>
>>> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>>
>> You need to start listening.
>
> Oh, so you were not referring to the exact words he say but what he was speaking of. I wish you could be clearer. So I am going back to see what y0u had a problem with.
>> On 6/04/2021 3:13 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>>>
>>>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>>>
>>>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>>>
>>>> Why does he have to say that??
>>>>
>>>> And there you have it!!!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> Would you mind filling me in with what was being taught at that moment?
>>>
>>> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>>
>> You need to start listening.
>
>>
>>
>> Speaking about the Gospel!!
>>
>> 'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
>
> He is exactly right, and thanks for what he was saying it fit right with your timing mark.
>>
>> Speaking about the Gospel!!
>>
>> 'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
>
>>
>>
>> They're frauds. Pretending to be what they are not, representatives of
>> the gospel!!!
>
> Paul the apostle was a representative of the gospel,
>>
>> They're frauds. Pretending to be what they are not, representatives of
>> the gospel!!!
>
>
> "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith."Rom 1:16-17 (KJV)
>
> Jesus Said to his. Disciples,
>
> "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."Mar 16:15 (KJV)
>
> God the Father said to Jesus,
>
> "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord."Luk 4:18-19 (KJV)
>
> Was Jesus also wrong?
>
>>
>>
>> By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Yes, Jesus IS the Saviour, and Jesus commanded that the Gospel must be,...
>>
>>
>> By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
>
> "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."Mar 13:10 (KJV)
>
> It is to be published.
>
> If you do not preach the Good News of the Kingdom then you do yourself and others a disservice since they may never know, nor have reason to believe in all that Jesus was a Savior of and from. They would be cheated out of exercising their faith and becoming strong in the Lord. They would in essence be defrauded by religion and weak men.
>
> I have not seen anything fraudulent about his ministry an it has been rock solid.
>
I could not find anything wrong with his views either,
and some were much easier to understand.
Michael Christ
Apr 6, 2021, 2:31:07 AM4/6/21
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On 6/04/2021 11:36 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4g89h$t5b$1...@dont-email.me>):
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>
>> On 6/04/2021 3:13 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>>>
>>>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>>>
>>>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>>>
>>>> Why does he have to say that??
>>>>
>>>> And there you have it!!!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> Would you mind filling me in with what was being taught at that moment?
>>>
>>> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>>
>> You need to start listening.
>
>> On 6/04/2021 3:13 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <s4edg9$q37$1...@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 5/04/2021 1:04 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRGSoMHmA
>>>>>
>>>>> Pastor Duane on with bits of his death experience a little over a year ago. He speaks of it near the beginning, the middle and especially at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is teaching on the Good News of the Gospel of Christ and all that is entailed. This is only the first part of the message. I rejoice with him as he serves the God I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the atheist, this is what I believe, and know, and he speaks of the God I know and love.
>>>>>
>>>>> Praise GOD!!!
>>>>
>>>> 15:30 in, we've got to be real, we've got to be real!!
>>>>
>>>> Why does he have to say that??
>>>>
>>>> And there you have it!!!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> Would you mind filling me in with what was being taught at that moment?
>>>
>>> I looked at it at 15:30 and heard nothing akin to your quote. I went back to 9 minutes up to around 20 and didn't hear it. I have the ads blocked and I don't know how YouTube operates there as to ads.
>>
>> You need to start listening.
>
> Oh, so you were not referring to the exact words he say but what he was speaking of. I wish you could be clearer. So I am going back to see what y0u had a problem with.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking about the Gospel!!
>>
>> 'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
>
>>
>> 'We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is'.
>
> He is exactly right, and thanks for what he was saying it fit right with your timing mark.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They're frauds. Pretending to be what they are not, representatives of
>> the gospel!!!
>
>> the gospel!!!
>
> Paul the apostle was a representative of the gospel,
>
> "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith."Rom 1:16-17 (KJV)
>
> Jesus Said to his. Disciples,
>
> "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."Mar 16:15 (KJV)
>
> God the Father said to Jesus,
>
> "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord."Luk 4:18-19 (KJV)
>
> Was Jesus also wrong?
You are deliberately off track as usual, trying to hide from the truth.
>
> "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith."Rom 1:16-17 (KJV)
>
> Jesus Said to his. Disciples,
>
> "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."Mar 16:15 (KJV)
>
> God the Father said to Jesus,
>
> "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord."Luk 4:18-19 (KJV)
>
> Was Jesus also wrong?
No son of God needs it said to them of the gospel, "We gotta value it,
we gotta see how precious it is." You wanker.
Only frauds/pretenders to the holy place need to be told that.
Duane is a fraud and you can't see it.
>> By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Yes, Jesus IS the Saviour, and Jesus commanded that the Gospel must be,...
>
> "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."Mar 13:10 (KJV)
>
> It is to be published.
>
> If you do not preach the Good News of the Kingdom then you do yourself and others a disservice since they may never know, nor have reason to believe in all that Jesus was a Savior of and from. They would be cheated out of exercising their faith and becoming strong in the Lord. They would in essence be defrauded by religion and weak men.
>
Yakkity yak, yakkity yak, just like Duane.
>
> "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."Mar 13:10 (KJV)
>
> It is to be published.
>
> If you do not preach the Good News of the Kingdom then you do yourself and others a disservice since they may never know, nor have reason to believe in all that Jesus was a Savior of and from. They would be cheated out of exercising their faith and becoming strong in the Lord. They would in essence be defrauded by religion and weak men.
>
> I have not seen anything fraudulent about his ministry an it has been rock solid.
and whinging about the church being less that she should be, and of
course, by default how right he is.
However, the real Church is without spot or blemish, pure and perfect of
heart, whiter than snow as she is the completed work of the Lord Jesus
Christ...AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T NEED SOME SINFUL DIRTY PASTOR TELLING
THEM OF THE GOSPEL..."We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it
is." What a joke!!!
And here is something for you, I would, if I was the spirit of the
world, I would tell you that theology/the bible isn't the power but the
Lord Jesus Christ is the power but then I would go right on with my
theology/doctrine/dogma as a means for salvation. :-).
How subtle and evil the spirit of the world is.
Duane a con man, conned his congregation and conned himself in the
process. And so is the fate with all these religious organisations.
Michael Christ
Apr 6, 2021, 2:40:33 AM4/6/21
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But what would I know, I am only an idiot? :-).
Rod
Apr 6, 2021, 10:41:28 AM4/6/21
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>
> But what would I know, I am only an idiot? :-).
you. I realize that all of us are still trying to find our way to
perfection and we are works in progress.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
Michael Christ
Apr 6, 2021, 8:45:19 PM4/6/21
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On 7/04/2021 3:56 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4gv79$k52$2...@dont-email.me>):
> On Apr 5, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
A son of God doesn't need to be told to value the gospel and told how
precious it is.
They are pretending to be something they are not. It's obvious by what
you have been shown. You have heard it and balked at it, Buddy.
>>
>>
>> Duane is a fraud and you can't see it.
>>
>>>> By the way, the Saviour is not the gospel, it is the Lord Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> Yes, Jesus IS the Saviour, and Jesus commanded that the Gospel must be,...
>>>
>>> "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."Mar 13:10 (KJV)
>>>
>>> It is to be published.
>>>
>>> If you do not preach the Good News of the Kingdom then you do yourself and others a disservice since they may never know, nor have reason to believe in all that Jesus was a Savior of and from. They would be cheated out of exercising their faith and becoming strong in the Lord. They would in essence be defrauded by religion and weak men.
>>
>> Yakkity yak, yakkity yak, just like Duane.
>>
>>> I have not seen anything fraudulent about his ministry an it has been rock solid.
>>
>> Well he is a fraud. And he grates on me because he is always whining
>> and whinging about the church being less that she should be, and of
>> course, by default how right he is.
>
>
Revelation speaks of churches, yes, but I speak of Duane is a religious
con man. I have heard him in the past and floated into and past his
sermons a few times over the years.
He wants God to be made in his image. He's trying to bend the Wind to
his own will.
It is there to be seen if you want to depart from 'you knowing
everything' for a moment.
Either way, he is a sinner religious con man. The fact that he doesn't
see it doesn't excuse where and what he is.
Personally I don't wish anyone to be wrong, but things is what they is
and far be it from to try and bend things into something that is not.
What gets me is they say, 'I'm a sinner, I'm a sinner', and seemingly
never suffer from its ill effects when it comes to their
doctrine/dogma/doctrine!!! :-).
> The Word also speaks of people calling the leaders of the Body of Christ, frauds, and demeaning them, sounds to me like the Lord knew all about you a long time ago.
>>
Duane is not in the Body of Christ, he's a sinner. Is the Lord a Lord
of sin??
You'll never be wrong, Robert, and that is your problem. I faced
myself, through the grace of God, you haven't.
>>
>> However, the real Church is without spot or blemish, pure and perfect of
>> heart, whiter than snow as she is the completed work of the Lord Jesus
>> Christ...AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T NEED SOME SINFUL DIRTY PASTOR TELLING
>> THEM OF THE GOSPEL..."We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it
>> is." What a joke!!!
>
Irrelevant.
A son of God is a new creature...we are spirit beings.
The fact that my physical body (body of death) is rotting is of no
consequence.
> Not pure, nor perfect. Which is why one needs the Salvation of the Lord in order to maintain health and well being. This imperfect body will one day die, and it will be redeemed when the Lord comes in the clouds to raise the dead and to transform the bodies of the Living Believers. However, in this life our spirit is fully redeemed of the Lord if we are born again. At which point we begin the renewing of our mind. The part of us that interacts between our spirit and our sinful body so that we can begin redeeming our days.
>
> We all need the Good News. We depend on it especially in times of turmoil and uncertainty. We all need a little loving and especially the peace that passes all human understanding with joy.
>
> We need the fullness of Jesus Christ in us.
A son of God is in Christ Jesus and He in them.
That is the fullness (relationship).
NO SON OF GOD NEEDS SOME SINFUL DIRTY PASTOR TELLING THEM OF THE
GOSPEL..."We gotta value it, we gotta see how precious it is."
It's absurd!!!
He is preaching to the called, including himself, but not the chosen as
they have yet to lose their lives.
The think they are in Los Angeles, spiritually speaking, and they are
yet to leave Florida. This is the insidiousness of the evil spirit of
this world, why would you leave Florida for Los Angeles if you have been
convinced you are already in Los Angeles??!!
However, this caveat, no excuses, the bottom line is you choose where
you wanna be.
Michael Christ wrote:
>> And here is something for you, I would, if I was the spirit of the
>> world, I would tell you that theology/the bible isn't the power but the
>> Lord Jesus Christ is the power but then I would go right on with my
>> theology/doctrine/dogma as a means for salvation. :-).
> When you shot put the Bible you defame to words of God. You act from the spirit of this world, the antichrist, to make a mockery of him who died for us, who gave himself for us, and then followed that up with Gifts to men when we dwell in His Salvation.
>>
You are side stepping what I said; so typical of you. You were just
told what Duane is up to.
You shot put the truth.
In all these years you have done just that, as indeed all the truth in
this response, and all because you and your religion are not venerated.
Duane would do exactly the same thing (shot put the truth) if it was
given him...but it is not. You are privileged for some reason, even
though you constantly stomp on the truth with your personal context
theology.
>>
>> How subtle and evil the spirit of the world is.
>
>>
No, your religious organisation fervour is only a con, only an
appearance of light, it is not The Light.
You'll have see that in the end, anyway.
>>
>> Duane a con man, conned his congregation and conned himself in the
>> process. And so is the fate with all these religious organisations.
>
Of course, I am always the problem and to Buddha Rod I am always the
idiot. :-). He's a Buddhist and I'm an idiot! :-). Anyway, speak
what you like, it won't become the Word of the Lord.
Con man religious organisations have the wrath of God coming upon them.
Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Charismatic, Baptist, Reformed, JW,
Mormon, and on and on and on.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall
exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees (e.g. Duane
Sheriff Ministries), ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
It is right in front of your face and you don't see it...'Duane Sheriff
Ministries'.
WHOSE MINISTRIES???!!!
And how many there are of 'em!!! How many have crashed and burned and
yet you still will not see. A long list. Jimmy Swaggart (Ministries)
was a powerful preacher with a huge churchy following, crashed and
burned and reborn out of the ashes to still be the CENTRE of it all
again in his religious pond!
Didn't learn a thing!
Recently, RZIM too! Such an articulate man of God apologist!!
They are all tarred with the same brush.
'Me Ministries'.
Michael Christ
Apr 7, 2021, 10:16:01 PM4/7/21
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forgiveness from you I would ask post haste. However, and I appreciate
that you might find this hard to believe, but everything I say to you is
motivated by the desire for you to reach your potential, in the
awareness of the latter part of your sentence above.
Same with that hard headed dogmatist Robert! Both your lives are
important, but God's ways are contrary to the thoughts of men. All find
God's ways peculiar in their search and the closer one comes to God, the
more peculiar they become. God's ways are not our ways and not in the
least bit formed in man's morals!
But men are fighting battles where there is no battle. I can give you
an example in Christendom if you like...in say this Duane Sheriff
Ministries 'church'. They think the battlefield is in the mind, it is
not, the battlefield is in the heart. God seeks, and has always sought
the whole heart, and nothing less.
Rod
Apr 8, 2021, 5:50:21 PM4/8/21
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On 4/7/2021 11:23 PM, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2021, Robert wrote
> (in article<0001HW.261EA8150...@news.forteinc.com>):
>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>> (in article <s4lp0v$bdl$2...@dont-email.me>):
>> So if you saw someone saved, then you would shoot them. Meaning to send them straight to heaven because you are a nice guy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>
> Rod, Todays post from Duane speaks directly to and opposes the doctrine of MC regarding sin, and does so very clearly. All in one sermon regarding the work of the Lord.
>
I haven't seen it yet, but I will have a look. Thank you.
> On Apr 7, 2021, Robert wrote
> (in article<0001HW.261EA8150...@news.forteinc.com>):
>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
>> (in article <s4lp0v$bdl$2...@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>
>>> Same with that hard headed dogmatist Robert! Both your lives are
>>> important, but God's ways are contrary to the thoughts of men. All find
>>> God's ways peculiar in their search and the closer one comes to God, the
>>> more peculiar they become. God's ways are not our ways and not in the
>>> least bit formed in man's morals!
>>>
>>> But men are fighting battles where there is no battle. I can give you
>>> an example in Christendom if you like...in say this Duane Sheriff
>>> Ministries 'church'. They think the battlefield is in the mind, it is
>>> not, the battlefield is in the heart. God seeks, and has always sought
>>> the whole heart, and nothing less.
>>
>> Obviously you know nothing of Duane.
>>>
>>> Same with that hard headed dogmatist Robert! Both your lives are
>>> important, but God's ways are contrary to the thoughts of men. All find
>>> God's ways peculiar in their search and the closer one comes to God, the
>>> more peculiar they become. God's ways are not our ways and not in the
>>> least bit formed in man's morals!
>>>
>>> But men are fighting battles where there is no battle. I can give you
>>> an example in Christendom if you like...in say this Duane Sheriff
>>> Ministries 'church'. They think the battlefield is in the mind, it is
>>> not, the battlefield is in the heart. God seeks, and has always sought
>>> the whole heart, and nothing less.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>
> Rod, Todays post from Duane speaks directly to and opposes the doctrine of MC regarding sin, and does so very clearly. All in one sermon regarding the work of the Lord.
>
I haven't seen it yet, but I will have a look. Thank you.
El Kabong
Apr 8, 2021, 9:20:56 PM4/8/21
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Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
Michael Christ
Apr 8, 2021, 9:39:05 PM4/8/21
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On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 'Me Ministries'.
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 'Me Ministries'.
Bango wrote:
> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>
Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>
Amazing how flexible reality is in the atheist's glorious hands!!! :-).
Madhu
Apr 8, 2021, 10:15:31 PM4/8/21
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* Michael Christ <s4ivas$clq$3...@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:45:15 +1000:
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-updates/theological-statement
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-updates/board-statement
Terrible. I didn't know about this when I responded to your post a few
months back
"I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts
of the field."
56:9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in
the forest.
12:9 Mine heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about
are against her; come ye, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to
devour.
29:5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the
fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not
be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the
beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
2:12 And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath
said, These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make
them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them.
It happens again and again, the "minister" dies (HWA/Watchman
Nee/whoever) and their ministry is given over by God to the vultures and
birds of prey and the beasts of the field the lawyers and institutions,
the dogs who lick up the blood and tear up the flesh
Wrote on Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:45:15 +1000:
> WHOSE MINISTRIES???!!!
>
> And how many there are of 'em!!! How many have crashed and burned and
> yet you still will not see. A long list. Jimmy Swaggart (Ministries)
> was a powerful preacher with a huge churchy following, crashed and
> burned and reborn out of the ashes to still be the CENTRE of it all
> again in his religious pond!
>
> Didn't learn a thing!
> Recently, RZIM too! Such an articulate man of God apologist!!
> They are all tarred with the same brush.
> 'Me Ministries'.
I only looked this up on google because I didn't know WTF RZIM was and i
>
> And how many there are of 'em!!! How many have crashed and burned and
> yet you still will not see. A long list. Jimmy Swaggart (Ministries)
> was a powerful preacher with a huge churchy following, crashed and
> burned and reborn out of the ashes to still be the CENTRE of it all
> again in his religious pond!
>
> Didn't learn a thing!
> Recently, RZIM too! Such an articulate man of God apologist!!
> They are all tarred with the same brush.
> 'Me Ministries'.
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-updates/theological-statement
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-updates/board-statement
Terrible. I didn't know about this when I responded to your post a few
months back
"I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts
of the field."
56:9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in
the forest.
12:9 Mine heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about
are against her; come ye, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to
devour.
29:5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the
fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not
be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the
beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
2:12 And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath
said, These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make
them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them.
It happens again and again, the "minister" dies (HWA/Watchman
Nee/whoever) and their ministry is given over by God to the vultures and
birds of prey and the beasts of the field the lawyers and institutions,
the dogs who lick up the blood and tear up the flesh
Michael Christ
Apr 9, 2021, 5:15:08 AM4/9/21
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On 8/04/2021 12:55 pm, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4lp0v$bdl$2...@dont-email.me>):
>>
>> Same with that hard headed dogmatist Robert! Both your lives are
>> important, but God's ways are contrary to the thoughts of men. All find
>> God's ways peculiar in their search and the closer one comes to God, the
>> more peculiar they become. God's ways are not our ways and not in the
>> least bit formed in man's morals!
>>
>> But men are fighting battles where there is no battle. I can give you
>> an example in Christendom if you like...in say this Duane Sheriff
>> Ministries 'church'. They think the battlefield is in the mind, it is
>> not, the battlefield is in the heart. God seeks, and has always sought
>> the whole heart, and nothing less.
>
> On Apr 7, 2021, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <s4lp0v$bdl$2...@dont-email.me>):
> So if you saw someone saved, then you would shoot them. Meaning to send them straight to heaven because you are a nice guy.
>>
Crazy thinking like your theology.
>>
>>
>> Same with that hard headed dogmatist Robert! Both your lives are
>> important, but God's ways are contrary to the thoughts of men. All find
>> God's ways peculiar in their search and the closer one comes to God, the
>> more peculiar they become. God's ways are not our ways and not in the
>> least bit formed in man's morals!
>>
>> But men are fighting battles where there is no battle. I can give you
>> an example in Christendom if you like...in say this Duane Sheriff
>> Ministries 'church'. They think the battlefield is in the mind, it is
>> not, the battlefield is in the heart. God seeks, and has always sought
>> the whole heart, and nothing less.
>
> Obviously you know nothing of Duane.
Duane is a fraud.
Michael Christ
Apr 9, 2021, 5:17:52 AM4/9/21
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El Kabong
Apr 9, 2021, 4:39:30 PM4/9/21
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Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
> > Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 'Me Ministries'.
>
> Bango wrote:
> > Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
> >
>
> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
> > Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 'Me Ministries'.
>
> Bango wrote:
> > Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
> >
>
> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
Ministry.
Who is it all about? Say it again.
Michael Christ
Apr 10, 2021, 2:11:02 AM4/10/21
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On 10/04/2021 6:39 am, El Kabong wrote:
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Me Ministries'.
>>
>> Bango wrote:
>>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>>>
>>
>> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Me Ministries'.
>>
>> Bango wrote:
>>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>>>
>>
>> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
El Banger wrote:
> Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
> Ministry.
>
> Who is it all about? Say it again.
I will eruditely declare, it is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.
> Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
> Ministry.
>
> Who is it all about? Say it again.
Ummm, that means not you.
Sorry.
Michael Christ wrote:
>> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
>> Amazing how flexible reality is in the atheist's glorious hands!!!
:-).
:-).
El Kabong
Apr 10, 2021, 5:28:19 AM4/10/21
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Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/04/2021 6:39 am, El Kabong wrote:
> > Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
> >>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 'Me Ministries'.
> >>
> >> Bango wrote:
> >>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
>
> El Banger wrote:
> > Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
> > Ministry.
> >
> > Who is it all about? Say it again.
>
> I will eruditely declare, it is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Ummm, that means not you.
You are not the Lord Jesus Christ.
> On 10/04/2021 6:39 am, El Kabong wrote:
> > Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
> >>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 'Me Ministries'.
> >>
> >> Bango wrote:
> >>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
>
> El Banger wrote:
> > Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
> > Ministry.
> >
> > Who is it all about? Say it again.
>
> I will eruditely declare, it is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> Ummm, that means not you.
>
> Sorry.
Then bend your knees and supplicate.
Madhu
Apr 10, 2021, 10:25:42 AM4/10/21
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* Robert <0001HW.2620B3850...@news.forteinc.com> :
Wrote on Fri, 09 Apr 2021 09:08:37 -0700:
> I understood watchmen Nee to be a very Godly man. I read one of his
> books and saw no problems with it.
It wasn't Nee (or Lee) but their son who was appointed as
successor-pastor who (If I remember correctly) dallied with the
masseuses. And Ted Garner Armstrong IIRC
> Many miracles performed by his hands in the name of the Lord. So what
> is it that made you align him with the likes of RZIM, who I have never
> heard of either. Was he Australian?
RZ = Ravi Zacharias. ICS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RZIM
Wrote on Fri, 09 Apr 2021 09:08:37 -0700:
> I understood watchmen Nee to be a very Godly man. I read one of his
> books and saw no problems with it.
It wasn't Nee (or Lee) but their son who was appointed as
successor-pastor who (If I remember correctly) dallied with the
masseuses. And Ted Garner Armstrong IIRC
> Many miracles performed by his hands in the name of the Lord. So what
> is it that made you align him with the likes of RZIM, who I have never
> heard of either. Was he Australian?
RZ = Ravi Zacharias. ICS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RZIM
Michael Christ
Apr 10, 2021, 8:29:26 PM4/10/21
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On 10/04/2021 7:28 pm, El Kabong wrote:
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/04/2021 6:39 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Me Ministries'.
>>>>
>>>> Bango wrote:
>>>>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
>>
>> El Banger wrote:
>>> Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
>>> Ministry.
>>>
>>> Who is it all about? Say it again.
>>
>> I will eruditely declare, it is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Ummm, that means not you.
>
> You are not the Lord Jesus Christ.
Finally you've got something right!
> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/04/2021 6:39 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/04/2021 11:20 am, El Kabong wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Me Ministries'.
>>>>
>>>> Bango wrote:
>>>>> Once in a while, MX, you actually are erudite.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh now suddenly I am 'erudite'! :-).
>>
>> El Banger wrote:
>>> Only when you have an attack of honesty about your
>>> Ministry.
>>>
>>> Who is it all about? Say it again.
>>
>> I will eruditely declare, it is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Ummm, that means not you.
>
> You are not the Lord Jesus Christ.
I've waited far too long.
>
>>
>> Sorry.
>
> Then bend your knees and supplicate.
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