(Eden) In the Garden of Eden, Eve committed the sin of eating more than she needed (i.e. gluttony) and convinced Adam to do likewise after being deceived by the devil, who commited the sin of lying to Eve ...

[HeartDoc Andrew]

What about the sin of disobedience ?

To sin is to disobey GOD.

"See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

Source:
https://biblehub.com/john/5-14.htm

[The Doctor]

In article <ed2290a6-88c6-4f98...@googlegroups.com>,

14 (Jn 8:11) Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him,
"See, you have become whole. Sin no more lest something worse happens to you."

[14] Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold,
thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
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[HeartDoc Andrew]

"Very truly I (LORD Jesus) tell you, no one can see the Kingdom of GOD
unless they are born again." (John 3:3 w/ parenthetical clarification)

Source:
https://biblehub.com/john/3-3.htm

"If you declare (and/or confess) with your mouth, 'Jesus is LORD,' and
believe in your heart that GOD raised Him from the dead, you will be
saved." (Romans 10:9 w/ parenthetical clarification)

Source:
https://biblehub.com/romans/10-9.htm

"...no one can say 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)

Source:
https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/12-3.htm


Bottom line:

https://tinyurl.com/PerishingSPAMtroll (aka TD) has been unable to
prove that he can declare/confess with his mouth (Romans 10:9) that "Jesus is
LORD" because the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:3) has been unwilling
to help him do it.

Note: TD's reacting adversely to prayer (vainly trying to rebuke
someone who is omnipotent per Philippians 4:13 in the Holy Spirit) is
not unlike how Saul reacted to Stephen's prayer. Just as Saul needed
GOD to change his heart (Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26) to become Apostle
Paul on the "road to Damascus," so too TD needs GOD more than he needs
further Bible study.

Source:
https://tinyurl.com/TDsVanity

Otoh, we can (and should rebuke) satan because he is
cursed (Genesis 3:14) by GOD to be terribly **not** hungry and enters
into the hearts of others causing them to also be terribly **not**
hungry (e.g. Judas the traitor Iscariot leaving the "Last Supper" with
a dipped piece of bread and not eating it). Only those of us who are
always writing/saying that we're http://WonderfullyHungry.org are
those who always have on the "full armor of GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) to
"stand firm against satan" entering into our hearts (Matt 15:19).

In the interim, examples of those who have the help of the Holy Spirit
to declare "Jesus is LORD" can be seen at http://WDJW.net along with
those who don't have His help though they've been deceived by their
own heart (Jeremiah 17:9) to falsely believe that they do.

So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
http://tinyurl.com/ChrINOtrump or we'll most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
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Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://WonderfullyHungry.org
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/08/23 Here's the TP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/2uFztw67AAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/08/23 Again, here's the TP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/2uFztw67AAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/08/23 Here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/08/23 Again, here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/09/23 Again, here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/10/23 Again, here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/10/23 Again a 2nd time, here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[HeartDoc Andrew]

(Eden) 07/10/23 Again a 3rd time, here's the OP ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.christnet.christianlife/c/USXJe9oc1-0/m/_qUmsUmpAAAJ

[James]

Adam's sin was not gluttony.It was disobedience:

(Genesis 2:16, 17) Jehovah God also gave this command to the man:
“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as
for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from
it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”

(Genesis 3:11) At that he said: “Who told you that you were naked?
Have you eaten from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”

(Genesis 3:17) And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your
wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this
command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your
account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life.

As you can see, God was displeased with them because they broke His
command.

Sincerely James
Can human discussions
bring about peace?
Go to jw.org
7/14/23

[HeartDoc Andrew]

eternally condemned James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> eternally condemned James wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>>>>>>>> never born:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>>>>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>>>>>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>>>>>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>>>>>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>>>>>>>> more than they needed:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>>>>>>>> gluttony.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam and Eve were created perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perfectly able to choose to eat the figs from the tree of knowledge
>>>>>> and thereby eat "more than needed."
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bible does not say what the fruit of that forbidden tree was.
>>>>
>>>> It is described in the Bible that A&E covered themselves with fig
>>>> leaves upon realizing they were naked.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, it logically follows that what they ate were figs.
>>>
>>> It might have been cumquats. Your guess is as good as mine.
>>
>> While cumquats are not named in the Bible, figs are named in multiple
>> significant places.
>>
>> Therefore, discerning that the fruit from the tree of knowledge were
>> figs is not a guess here:
>>
>> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Holy Spirit
>> (referring to Genesis 3:12-13)
>
> "The fruit from the tree of knowledge were figs" -- Deceptive Spirit

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/VCpuEQudr5Y/m/2LImGbA4AQAJ

Your calling the Holy Spirit a "Deceptive Spirit" here is your blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against Him.

You, James, have just committed here an eternal sin (i.e. one that will never be forgiven by GOD).

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke 6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more than ever.

Laus DEO !

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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

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> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke 6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart