What a sham...2!
Michael Christ
The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
"Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
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> They quote scriptures to try and justify their sin.
>
> The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
I sense that you may be starting to wake up, Michael. You might be about
where I was in my Christian life nearly 7 years ago. I decided to challenge
and question my cherished Christian beliefs and after 5 years of in-depth
research, ended up abandoning Christianity altogether.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
gabriel
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
> They quote scriptures to try and justify their sin.
>
> The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:17:35 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> [..]
> freedom in the Spirit is not bound by your dickhead sinner perceptions of what is right
> and what is wrong.
> [..]
> you are a self-righteous finger pointing idiot
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:16:00 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
>
> You must think the Lord is a complete blind dickhead.
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:58:22 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Heard this before but maybe you haven't...
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> A man and his ever-nagging wife went on vacation to Jerusalem. While they
> were there, the wife passed away.
>
> The undertaker told the husband, "You can have her shipped home for $5000,
> or you can bury her here, in the Holy Land, for $150."
>
> The man thought about it and told him he would just have her shipped home.
>
> The undertaker asked, "Why would you spend $5000 to ship your wife home,
> when it would be wonderful to be buried here and you would spend only $150?"
>
> The man replied, "A long time ago a man died here, was buried here, and
> three days later he rose from the dead. I just can't take that chance."
>
>
>
> :-).
>
> Michael Christ
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:03:40 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> [..]
> Holiness, righteousness and purity, without which a man will never be with
> God...has it registered yet? Or, are you just going to ignore it like an
> idiot while glorying in your awesome theological correctness?
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:26:35 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> ..
> You walk as though God is a blind complete dickhead.
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:40:03 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
> Those who are called need the Bible, but those who are chosen don't need it
> anymore because they walk in the Spirit with the Lord.
>
> I remember when the Lord began my chastening, He took my Bible away from me,
> twice in fact.
>
> I had my KJV, the version He gave me as the best there was, and for an
> unexplained reason at the time, it just vanished.
>
> About 3 months later I was mucking around in the garage and lo and behold it
> turned up on top of a clothes cabinet.
>
> Anyway, it went missing again almost straight away, and to this day I never
> knew what happened to it.
Ike E 12/10/2009
"Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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[snip]
> I sense that you may be starting to wake up, Michael. You might be about
> where I was in my Christian life nearly 7 years ago. I decided to
> challenge and question my cherished Christian beliefs and after 5 years of
> in-depth research, ended up abandoning Christianity altogether.
Lu 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word
with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of
temptation fall away.
Ike
Michael Christ
Gabs.
You quote scriptures to try and justify your sin, thereby loving your sin
and not the God you profess to love.
It is no good trying to take it out on me.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
> news:BtyWm.62917$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> They quote scriptures to try and justify their sin.
>>
>> The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
Will Bill yehaaa wrote:
> I sense that you may be starting to wake up, Michael. You might be about
> where I was in my Christian life nearly 7 years ago. I decided to
> challenge and question my cherished Christian beliefs and after 5 years of
> in-depth research, ended up abandoning Christianity altogether.
No Billy, the only difference between you and me is that I went all the way,
and you didn't.
Michael Christ
Thommadura
> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
> righteous, Gabs.
Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
No have you proven any god exists to sin against -
YOur opinion of the matter is noted - and rejected as unsupported in
FACT and provable truth
Wild Bill
Judging from the content of most of your posts, I'd say you haven't done any
objective research at all, Michael!
>
>
> Michael Christ
Michael Christ
> The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
Will Bill yehaaa wrote:
>>> I sense that you may be starting to wake up, Michael. You might be about
>>> where I was in my Christian life nearly 7 years ago. I decided to
>>> challenge and question my cherished Christian beliefs and after 5 years
>>> of in-depth research, ended up abandoning Christianity altogether.
Michael Christ wrote:
>> No Billy, the only difference between you and me is that I went all the
>> way, and you didn't.
Wild Bill wrote:
> Judging from the content of most of your posts, I'd say you haven't done
> any objective research at all, Michael!
Research is over.
The die is cast.
All over red rover.
Jesus is Lord.
You should have finished what you started, Bill.
Luk 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough,
and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
For your own good Bill, go back and take another look. What have you got to
lose? And what is the alternative anyway?? Nothingness?? My advice is
don't look to religion (its a sham) and religious men as an example.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Christ wrote:
>> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
>> righteous, Gabs.
Thommadura wrote:
> Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
>
> No have you proven any god exists to sin against -
>
> YOur opinion of the matter is noted - and rejected as unsupported in FACT
> and provable truth
You can believe you are perfectly clean and pure and righteous if you like
Thommadura.
Its unsupported and unsupportable in FACT though. I mention that because I
know how very important FACT is to you.
Michael Christ
gabriel
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee righteous,
> Gabs.
How is it possible that merely quoting what you've said in the
past could even be construed as judging you? I thought you
claimed to live perfectly sinless? So aren't every one of your
posts perfectly without sin as well?! So you don't live perfectly
sinless even though you continue to claim you do? Interesting ..
please learn from how your own behavior contradicts the false
doctrines you teach since you don't want to learn from God's
Word, Michael. This is why you need to be confronted with the
fact that you sin - seems to be the only way you're going to come
back to the truth of God's Word:
1 John 1:8-2:1 KJV
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar,
and his word is not in us.
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye
sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous:
>
> You quote scriptures to try and justify your sin, thereby loving your sin
> and not the God you profess to love.
How do you justify that you continue to sin, as I quoted what you
said, and you clearly responded knowing what you said is enough
to condemn you of sin, Michael?
How do you justify that you don't even live the false doctrine
you're teaching?
>
> It is no good trying to take it out on me.
No, just trying to help you by quoting things you've said that
clearly contradict the false doctrines you teach. =(
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com) wrote:
>> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
>> righteous,
>> Gabs.
Gabriel wrote:
> How is it possible that merely quoting what you've said in the
> past could even be construed as judging you? I thought you
> claimed to live perfectly sinless?
Randy and your accusations do not constitute fact.
I told you, my life is hid in Christ, you need to speak with the Lord to
find out what I am. I HAVE NEVER SAID I AM ANYTHING, those accusations are
made my you and your ilk to try and justify yourselves.
Gabriel wrote:
>So aren't every one of your
> posts perfectly without sin as well?!
They are for there motive is pure. They are not bound by your man made
sinner morals and ethics.
And your judgment of them in your sin is a waste of your time.
Gabriel wrote:
> So you don't live perfectly
> sinless even though you continue to claim you do? Interesting ..
> please learn from how your own behavior contradicts the false
> doctrines you teach since you don't want to learn from God's
> Word, Michael. This is why you need to be confronted with the
> fact that you sin - seems to be the only way you're going to come
> back to the truth of God's Word:
You make conclusions based upon your imperfect judgements and you expect me
to address them as fact?? :-).
Gabriel wrote:
> 1 John 1:8-2:1 KJV
> 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
> the truth is not in us.
> 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
> us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
> 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar,
> and his word is not in us.
> 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye
> sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father,
> Jesus Christ the righteous:
Like you have been told, you are trying to justify your sin; there is no
justification for sin.
Admit your sin, that is, all of you is sin by submitting yourself to the
Lord wholly and completely. That is the only way to be changed. Until you
do, you are claiming in your actions that you do not sin, and have not
sinned. And therefore you will never walk in the light (verse 7) and you
will never be cleansed of all unrighteousness (verse 9). If you say you
have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness (which you do) you are a liar
(verse 6).
The whole of 1 John 1 flows beautifully but you and Randy butcher it with
your sin refuge based lying theology that seeks personal glory and not the
glory of a Holy God.
(KJV)
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his
that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether
it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that
seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is
in him.
It all depends on who is your Lord, Gabriel...you or Jesus.
And you can't claim Jesus is Lord of your life while you walk in darkness,
no matter how 'occasional' it is!
For God's sake, wake up!
Michael Christ
Wild Bill
You both are asleep at the wheel. Either that, or dumber'n a board! I vote
for the latter.
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
Thommadura
>
> "Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4b2b7f21$0$31262$607e...@cv.net...
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
>>> righteous, Gabs.
>
>
> Thommadura wrote:
>> Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
>>
>> No have you proven any god exists to sin against -
>>
>> YOur opinion of the matter is noted - and rejected as unsupported in
>> FACT and provable truth
>
> You can believe you are perfectly clean and pure and righteous if you
> like Thommadura.
No - I simply do not accept what is NOT proven about gods and religions
- beliefs have NOTHING to do with it.
>
> Its unsupported and unsupportable in FACT though.
Since it is A wrong conclusion - among the many you have made - it is
obvious
Michael Christ
>Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
Michael Christ wrote:
>> You can believe you are perfectly clean and pure and righteous if you
>> like Thommadura.
Thommadura wrote:
> No - I simply do not accept what is NOT proven about gods and religions -
> beliefs have NOTHING to do with it.
Oh, you'll have your proof soon enough, and at a time you least expect it,
and not at a time of your glorious demanding; that is a promise.
In the meantime, you are not the divine font of all knowledge or the
receptacle of it that one must come to prove anything.
Facts are facts.
You speak as one who is sinless but you know you are not. Now there is a
'viable' fact for you.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Wild Bill wrote:
> You both are asleep at the wheel. Either that, or dumber'n a board! I vote
> for the latter.
And why should we take your word for it, you have been wrong before. :-).
Michael Christ
Pax
"Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
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>
1 Corinthians 13
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity,
I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the
gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth
me nothing.
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth
not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not
her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all
things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth: but
whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they
shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect
is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child,
I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when
I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass,
darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know
even as also I am known.
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these
is charity.
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Wild Bill
If your Christian God actually exists, then so does sin. In fact your fable
says he invented it! However, since he doesn't exist except in ancient
folk-lore, fable and legend, your so-called 'viable' fact is about as
useless as tits on a boar hog!
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
Wild Bill
Nah, once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken!
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
ThomM
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:42:41 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
> > They quote scriptures to try and justify their sin.
>
> > The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
>
> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:17:35 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
> > [..]
> > freedom in the Spirit is not bound by your dickhead sinner perceptions of what is right
> > and what is wrong.
> > [..]
> > you are a self-righteous finger pointing idiot
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:16:00 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
>
> > You must think the Lord is a complete blind dickhead.
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:58:22 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
>
>
> <JesusisL...@Father.com> wrote:
> > Heard this before but maybe you haven't...
>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > A man and his ever-nagging wife went on vacation to Jerusalem. While they
> > were there, the wife passed away.
>
> > The undertaker told the husband, "You can have her shipped home for $5000,
> > or you can bury her here, in the Holy Land, for $150."
>
> > The man thought about it and told him he would just have her shipped home.
>
> > The undertaker asked, "Why would you spend $5000 to ship your wife home,
> > when it would be wonderful to be buried here and you would spend only $150?"
>
> > The man replied, "A long time ago a man died here, was buried here, and
> > three days later he rose from the dead. I just can't take that chance."
>
> > :-).
>
> > Michael Christ
>
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:03:40 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
> > [..]
> > Holiness, righteousness and purity, without which a man will never be with
> > God...has it registered yet? Or, are you just going to ignore it like an
> > idiot while glorying in your awesome theological correctness?
>
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:26:35 GMT, "Michael Christ"
>
> > ..
> > You walk as though God is a blind complete dickhead.
No - there are NO gods proven to exist - so any traits you claim are
simply your own wishes =- nothing real
ThomM
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4b2b7f21$0$31262$607e...@cv.net...
>
> > Michael Christ wrote:
> >> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
> >> righteous, Gabs.
> Thommadura wrote:
> > Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
>
> > No have you proven any god exists to sin against -
>
> > YOur opinion of the matter is noted - and rejected as unsupported in FACT
> > and provable truth
>
> You can believe you are perfectly clean and pure and righteous if you like
> Thommadura.
No - I simply do not accept what is NOT proven about gods and
religions
YOu are again making claims I have not made
>
> Its unsupported and unsupportable in FACT though.
AS I noted - it is NOT a fact - it was just another thing you made up
ThomM
>
> No, just trying to help you by quoting things you've said that
> clearly contradict the false doctrines you teach. =(
>
ANd that can be contradicted by quoting other things in your scripture
-
THe bible is a worthless book when it comes to proving anything -
since it is a compilation of religious belief - not truth. And if you
really really take the time to read it - you can take any side and it
would support AND be against it.
ThomM
> Thommadura wrote:
> >Since YOU have not established the word "sin" to have any VIABLE meaning
> Michael Christ wrote:
> >> You can believe you are perfectly clean and pure and righteous if you
> >> like Thommadura.
> Thommadura wrote:
> > No - I simply do not accept what is NOT proven about gods and religions -
> > beliefs have NOTHING to do with it.
>
> Oh, you'll have your proof soon enough, and at a time you least expect it,
> and not at a time of your glorious demanding; that is a promise.
STill another threat from a theist - without any support!!!!!!!!
ThomM
> "Wild Bill" <bilsg...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hgh0mn$33t$1...@news.parasun.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote in message
> >news:BVSWm.63135$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
And why should we take YOUR word for it Michael when YOU have been
wrong before as well - ?
We shouldn't take the word of any human
Let the god come forth and speak for itself - and verifiy what YOU
say. If it doesn't come forth - obviously it is not backing YOU up.
gabriel
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
>
> Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com) wrote:
> >> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
> >> righteous,
> >> Gabs.
>
> Gabriel wrote:
> > How is it possible that merely quoting what you've said in the
> > past could even be construed as judging you? I thought you
> > claimed to live perfectly sinless?
>
> Randy and your accusations do not constitute fact.
>
> I told you, my life is hid in Christ,
Actually, Michael, to claim that your life is "hid in Christ"
while obviously sinning you are being dishonest or ignorant of
what it means to sin. Are you claiming your "life is hid in
Christ" means no matter what *you* do, it's no longer considered
sin (but it's only considered sin if someone *else* does what you
continue to do)? Or are you claiming that what you do is not sin
no matter who does it? Please clarify.
I've only ever seen atheists tell jokes like the one you did to
intentionally mock God and Christ. To claim your life is hid in
Christ while behaving in similarly blasphemous manner as atheists
do specifically to mock God is suspicious at best, downright
dishonest at worst. I've only ever seen those who hate God use
God's name along side of such lewd vulgarity and tell such jokes,
Michael.
> you need to speak with the Lord to
> find out what I am. I HAVE NEVER SAID I AM ANYTHING,
Actually you have and you just did again. You just got done
saying "you are hid in Christ," claiming you are a Christian.
Then you turn around and tell jokes mocking the death and
resurrection of Christ via a joke about a man who hates his wife
so much he's willing to pay thousands of dollars to make sure she
stays dead rather than risk having her resurrect three days later
like Christ did.
1 John 1:7-2:1 KJV
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we
have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ
his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Michael Christ
"Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
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Truth only comes by way of charity...Spirit of the Lord truth that is.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Like you have been told, you are trying to justify your sin; there is no
justification for sin.
Admit your sin. All of you is sin. ***ADMIT IT BY SUBMITTING YOURSELF TO
THE LORD WHOLLY AND COMPLETELY***. Until you do...YOU ARE CLAIMING IN THE
SPIRIT IN YOUR ACTIONS THAT YOU DO NOT SIN, AND HAVE NOT SINNED. And
therefore you will never walk in the light (verse 7) and you will never be
cleansed of all unrighteousness (verse 9). If you say you have fellowship
with Him and walk in darkness (which you do) you are a liar (verse 6), your
whole life is a lie.
The whole of 1 John 1 flows beautifully but you butcher it with your sin
refuge based lying theology that seeks personal glory and not the glory of a
Holy God.
(KJV)
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his
that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether
it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that
seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is
in him.
It all depends on who is your Lord, Gabriel...you or Jesus.
And you can't claim Jesus is Lord of your life while you walk in darkness,
no matter how 'occasional' it is!
You won't get away with it Gabriel.
Michael Christ
Pax
Yes. :)
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth
not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not
her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all
things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Galatians 5:22-26
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness,
goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And
they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and
lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be
desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
> Michael Christ
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Michael Christ
Yeah sure, but what are you saying to me?
Michael Christ
Pax
I can't speak more clearly than God.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
4b2c1ace$0$5347$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net
Yes, the greatest of these is charity. This is truly one of the most
beautiful chapters in Scripture.
Amen, Pax, and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Jesus is Lord.
Pax
" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Yes, it is, isn't it. :) It brings tears to my eyes every time I read it.
> Amen, Pax, and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Amen, indeed. :) Thank you, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you
and yours, too! :)
> Jesus is Lord.
Yes, He is. :)
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Michael Christ
Pax wrote:
> I can't speak more clearly than God.
Well then, I suppose you should quote the whole Bible.
Michael Christ
Pax
Perhaps, in time.
The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
Everybody can come and claim that, but we have something better, namely
God's Word that gives us the freedom to say what God's will is. You just
make a quiz out of it, and even think you are blameless like Jesus
Christ. You are not, Michael, my dear.
But I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, of course. I hope
you will have a great Christmas party over there, no, down under there.
I do not think there will be snow at your place, right?
> Michael Christ
Jesus is LORD!
Ike E 12/10/2009
[snip]
> 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
> Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth
> not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not
> her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in
> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all
> things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
>
> Galatians 5:22-26
> But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
> gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is
> no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the
> affections and lusts.
>
> If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be
> desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Too bad Paul didn't know about little things like Jesus making a scourge to
drive out the moneychangers; or Jesus' diatribes against the Pharisees,
Sadducees, and Herodians; or Jesus whirling on his best friend and saying
"Get thee behind me, Satan." (ouch!)
While Paul had high aspirations, his conceptions of what Christianity should
be weren't always 100% on the mark.
Ike
Ike E 12/10/2009
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Perhaps not, as passages such as these tend to lead many people to believe
in a "lopsided Jesus," i.e. they only consider half of His character at a
time instead of seeing the flashes of what is to come in Jesus' second
advent (when He'll fulfill the OTHER half of the Messianic prophecies).
Ike
::: Jesus is LORD :::
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From time to time Michael has great ideas. I could start right away....
:-)
> The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
That is a nice idea, and I hope I will remember it.
>> Michael Christ
>
>
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
Jesus is Lord.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
I will quote a little in a different post... Great idea!!! Thank you,
Michael, for this idea. :-)
Michael Christ
"Ike E 12/10/2009" <xhermanei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh yes they were.
Translations have been blurred through more ways than one...as you know.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
> Jesus is LORD!
Well thank you Vera, however I would much prefer if my Merry Christmas and
New Year greetings were more than just words.
For instance and for example, you could dispense with taking my words,
changing them, and then quoting me as if I said them.
That would be nice...and 'Jesus is LORD!' Christian. How about it?
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ wrote:
>> Well then, I suppose you should quote the whole Bible.
Pax wrote:
> Perhaps, in time.
> The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
They certainly are.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
>> The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
> That is a nice idea, and I hope I will remember it.
Hahahahahaha....
Oh boy!
Michael Christ
®
gabriel <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Correct. Not to mention:
1 John 1:8-10 NIV
(8) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
truth is not in us.
(9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
(10) If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a
liar and his word has no place in our lives.
So then, someone who claims to be without sin:
1) is self deceived
2) does not have the truth in him
3) makes God out to be a liar
Michael claiming he is without sin:
On Sat, 11/21/09, at 9:32:54PM,
In Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
Article: <Gh2Om.56623$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote:
*****************************************************************
> "1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his
> seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of
> God."
Gabriel wrote:
> So are you claiming you have not sinned since being saved?
Michael Christ wrote:
> That is exactly what the verse is saying! It cannot be clearer!
> But you in your sin and looking through a glass darkly decides
that the
> verse says something else.Gabriel wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
> So are you claiming you have not sinned even once since being
> saved?
How on earth are you supposed to understand that answer being
blind??!!
If you say you are in Christ and sin, you are saying Jesus sins.
Since Jesus does not sin, you are not in Christ.
Just what part of this Bible verse do you not understand, Gabriel???
"1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his
seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of
God."
Please tell me. It is not going to do you any good trying to
judge me,
that is not your role.
A person that sins and says they are in Christ is declaring in
spiritual
places that Jesus is a sinner. How can anyone not understand that??
The problem with you and Randy, and God knows who else, is that
you lack
faith.
Michael Christ
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gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
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Please help everyone else out: Are you claiming your "life is hid
®
gabriel <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Please help everyone else out: Are you claiming your "life is hid
> in Christ" means no matter what*you* do, it's no longer
> considered sin (but it's only considered sin if someone*else*
> does what you continue to do)? Or are you claiming that what you
> do is not sin no matter who does it? Please clarify.
Correct.
Fred Thomas
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> On Sat, 12/19/09, at 6:26:57AM,
> gabriel <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please help everyone else out: Are you claiming your "life is hid
>> in Christ" means no matter what*you* do, it's no longer
>> considered sin (but it's only considered sin if someone*else*
>> does what you continue to do)? Or are you claiming that what you
>> do is not sin no matter who does it? Please clarify.
>
>
> Correct.
>
> --
> Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
> from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
> gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
> not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
> 1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
> glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
The Vatican was built upon the grounds previously devoted to the worship of
Mithra (600 B.C.). The Orthodox Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the
Mithraic version. Virtually all of the elements of Orthodox Christian rituals,
from miter, wafer, water baptism, alter, and doxology, were adopted from the
Mithra and earlier pagan mystery religions. The religion of Mithra preceded
Christianity by roughly six hundred years. Mithraic worship at one time covered
a large portion of the ancient world. It flourished as late as the second
century. The Messianic idea originated in ancient Persia and this is where the
Jewish and Christian concepts of a Savior came from. Mithra, as the sun god of
ancient Persia, had the following karmic similarities with Jesus:
Identical Life Experiences
(1)Mithra was born on December 25th as an offspring of the Sun. Next to the gods
Ormuzd and Ahrimanes, Mithra held the highest rank among the gods of ancient
Persia. He was represented as a beautiful youth and a Mediator. Reverend J. W.
Lake states: "Mithras is spiritual light contending with spiritual darkness, and
through his labors the kingdom of darkness shall be lit with heaven's own light;
the Eternal will receive all things back into his favor, the world will be
redeemed to God. The impure are to be purified, and the evil made good, through
the mediation of Mithras, the reconciler of Ormuzd and Ahriman. Mithras is the
Good, his name is Love. In relation to the Eternal he is the source of grace, in
relation to man he is the life-giver and mediator" (Plato, Philo, and Paul, p.
15).
(2)He was considered a great traveling teacher and masters. He had twelve
companions as Jesus had twelve disciples. Mithras also performed miracles.
(3)Mithra was called "the good shepherd,� "the way, the truth and the
light,� �redeemer,� �savior,� �Messiah." He was identified with both
the lion and the lamb.
(4)The International Encyclopedia states: "Mithras seems to have owed his
prominence to the belief that he was the source of life, and could also redeem
the souls of the dead into the better world ... The ceremonies included a sort
of baptism to remove sins, anointing, and a sacred meal of bread and water,
while a consecrated wine, believed to possess wonderful power, played a
prominent part."
(5)Chambers Encyclopedia says: "The most important of his many festivals was his
birthday, celebrated on the 25th of December, the day subsequently fixed --
against all evidence -- as the birthday of Christ. The worship of Mithras early
found its way into Rome, and the mysteries of Mithras, which fell in the spring
equinox, were famous even among the many Roman festivals. The ceremonies
observed in the initiation to these mysteries -- symbolical of the struggle
between Ahriman and Ormuzd (the Good and the Evil) -- were of the most
extraordinary and to a certain degree even dangerous character. Baptism and the
partaking of a mystical liquid, consisting of flour and water, to be drunk with
the utterance of sacred formulas, were among the inauguration acts."
(6)Prof. Franz Cumont, of the University of Ghent, writes as follows concerning
the religion of Mithra and the religion of Christ: "The sectaries of the Persian
god, like the Christians', purified themselves by baptism, received by a species
of confirmation the power necessary to combat the spirit of evil; and expected
from a Lord's supper salvation of body and soul. Like the latter, they also held
Sunday sacred, and celebrated the birth of the Sun on the 25th of December....
They both preached a categorical system of ethics, regarded asceticism as
meritorious and counted among their principal virtues abstinence and continence,
renunciation and self-control. Their conceptions of the world and of the destiny
of man were similar. They both admitted the existence of a Heaven inhabited by
beatified ones, situated in the upper regions, and of a Hell, peopled by demons,
situated in the bowels of the Earth. They both placed a flood at the beginning
of history; they both assigned as the source of their condition, a primitive
revelation; they both, finally, believed in the immortality of the soul, in a
last judgment, and in a resurrection of the dead, consequent upon a final
conflagration of the universe" (The Mysteries of Mithras, pp. 190, 191).
(7)Reverend Charles Biggs stated: "The disciples of Mithra formed an organized
church, with a developed hierarchy. They possessed the ideas of Mediation,
Atonement, and a Savior, who is human and yet divine, and not only the idea, but
a doctrine of the future life. They had a Eucharist, and a Baptism, and other
curious analogies might be pointed out between their system and the church of
Christ (The Christian Platonists, p. 240).
(8)In the catacombs at Rome was preserved a relic of the old Mithraic worship.
It was a picture of the infant Mithra seated in the lap of his virgin mother,
while on their knees before him were Persian Magi adoring him and offering
gifts.
(9)He was buried in a tomb and after three days he rose again. His resurrection
was celebrated every year.
(10)McClintock and Strong wrote: "In modern times Christian writers have been
induced to look favorably upon the assertion that some of our ecclesiastical
usages (e.g., the institution of the Christmas festival) originated in the
cultus of Mithraism. Some writers who refuse to accept the Christian religion as
of supernatural origin, have even gone so far as to institute a close comparison
with the founder of Christianity; and Dupuis and others, going even beyond this,
have not hesitated to pronounce the Gospel simply a branch of Mithraism" (Art.
"Mithra").
(11)Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter, at
which time he was resurrected. His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day." The
Mithra religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper."
(12)The Christian Father Manes, founder of the heretical sect known as
Manicheans, believed that Christ and Mithra were one. His teaching, according to
Mosheim, was as follows: "Christ is that glorious intelligence which the
Persians called Mithras ... His residence is in the sun" (Ecclesiastical
History, 3rd century, Part 2, ch. 5).
"I am a star which goes with thee and shines out of the depths." - Mithraic
saying
"I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star." -
Jesus, (Rev. 22:16)
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Pax
LOL Good idea. :)
>> The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
>
>
> That is a nice idea, and I hope I will remember it.
I hope to remember it, too. :)
>>> Michael Christ
>>
>>
>> Jesus is Lord,
>> Pax
>
> Jesus is Lord.
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Pax
Arms are meant to hold, comfort and protect.
Thommadura
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:57:53 GMT, "Michael Christ"
> <jesus...@father.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com) wrote:
>>>> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
>>>> righteous,
>>>> Gabs.
>> Gabriel wrote:
>>> How is it possible that merely quoting what you've said in the
>>> past could even be construed as judging you? I thought you
>>> claimed to live perfectly sinless?
>> Randy and your accusations do not constitute fact.
>>
>> I told you, my life is hid in Christ,
>
> while obviously sinning you are being dishonest or ignorant of
> Christ" means no matter what *you* do, it's no longer considered
> sin (but it's only considered sin if someone *else* does what you
> continue to do)? Or are you claiming that what you do is not sin
> no matter who does it? Please clarify.
>
> intentionally mock God and Christ. To claim your life is hid in
> Christ while behaving in similarly blasphemous manner as atheists
> do specifically to mock God is suspicious at best, downright
> dishonest at worst. I've only ever seen those who hate God use
> God's name along side of such lewd vulgarity and tell such jokes,
> Michael.
Another theist Pillow fight !!!!!!
Talk about being judgemental!
WHat good would a god be if he did not have a sense of humor?
Thommadura
ANd there is NO truth about the "spirit of lord" that has been established.
However - charity is still another trait of humans that has NOTHING to
do with specific religions or gods.
I am proud to say that ALL of my children have at least one adopted,
foster - or guardian child. I have had 16.
Thommadura
> Sorry buddy, I am not answerable to you.
>
> Like you have been told, you are trying to justify your sin; there is no
> justification for sin.
>
> Admit your sin.
There is NO such thing as sin. Since the word sin as YOU use it is an
offense against a god - and since YOU have not proven a god exist - then
sin is still a belief of yours - but meaningless in reality.
All of you is sin.
Sorry - but NOBODY sins - that you can prove - or have proven
It remains still another creation of human religions - nothing more.
Thommadura
Actually - virtually every human that CAN speak - can speak more clearly
that a belief for which no proof is offered.
SInce YOU cannot establish that ANYONE speaks for a god - it is ALL
human communication.
I
> Correct.
INCORRECT!
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Read the adventures of Rundy Bullspitfire - where every post is archived.
http://faithguard-moi.blogspot.com/
Repetition of the OCD kind seems to be Randy Young �'s life
considering his DUPLICATED emails from this newsgroup posters at
- http://groups.google.com.au/group/faithguard?hl=en
- http://www.faithguard.org/
- http://www.hopeguard.org/
- http://pulpitfire.blogspot.com/
4 907 posts in each of the four sites which is a TOTAL: of 19 628 DUPLICATED
posts on his sites!!!!!
Randy Young � also spams this newsgroup with the same replies over and over
every day.
Ask yourself what normal person does such a thing.
Randy Young � thinks this daily abuse is "guarding the faith". I quote from
http://groups.google.com.au/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=DiLFqxQAAAABcCxRJnfNjIMMZ6pfmxxyOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
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There's little I enjoy more than coming into these groups to guard the faith
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IS "guarding the faith" abusing Christians and calling Christian women
"whores" on this newsgroup and reporting them to their ISPs over trivial
matters??????
My ISP calls Randy Young's daily rants "ABUSE". I quote:
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I just got an email from your ISP saying it was returned for innappropriate
language. ... talking about the headers where Randy is calling *[Christian
women] whores.
MAILER...@tpg.com.au to me
show details 8:04 PM (3 minutes ago)
Your message has been prevented from delivery because it contains language
that is not appropriate. TPG reserves the right to protect its staff and
members from this type of abuse.
You are encouraged to re-write your message before sending it again. A copy
of your original message is below.
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RANDY YOUNG �'s HATE SPEECH ADVOCATING SPOUSAL RAPE ......
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Newsgroups: alt.christnet.prayer
From: Randy <pulpi...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:00:42 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 27 2006 9:00 am
Subject: Re: Daily prayer needed
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:13:40 GMT,
in article <o5eSg.3763$pq4.3...@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
...
I don't need to, because she believes what 1 Corinthians 7 says when
it says the husband's body belongs to the wife, and not to himself,
and the wife's body belongs to the husband, and not herself, and that
benevolence is "due" as a command of God for the promotion of holy
living. The only way you can commit "rape" in a marriage, is if you
deny what the Bible teaches when it says the husband's and wives'
bodies belong to each other, but not to themselves, and the fact God
has commanded benevolence, calling it "due", in favor of the laws and
customs of those who deny the authority of the Bible.
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Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction." ---Blaise Pascal
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from
it of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
Michael Christ
>I can't speak more clearly than God.
Michael Christ wrote:
>Well then, I suppose you should quote the whole Bible.
Pax wrote:
>Perhaps, in time.
>The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
Michael Christ wrote:
>They certainly are.
Pax wrote:
> Arms are meant to hold, comfort and protect.
And more...like rescue.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Michael Christ wrote:
>> Truth only comes by way of charity...Spirit of the Lord truth that is.
Thommadura wrote:
> ANd there is NO truth about the "spirit of lord" that has been
> established.
>
> However - charity is still another trait of humans that has NOTHING to do
> with specific religions or gods.
>
> I am proud to say that ALL of my children have at least one adopted,
> foster - or guardian child. I have had 16.
Glory, Oh praise of praises, lets us all gather at he feet of Thommadura and
give thanks for his righteous ways!!
You are blind fools.
If you don't worship God, you worship yourself. You ain't good enough!
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
you quote, Randy.
Get off your doctrine and on to your knees.
Michael Christ
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Michael Christ
Gabriel (the self appointed representative of 'everyone') wrote:
> Please help everyone else out: Are you claiming your "life is hid
> in Christ" means no matter what *you* do, it's no longer
> considered sin (but it's only considered sin if someone *else*
> does what you continue to do)? Or are you claiming that what you
> do is not sin no matter who does it? Please clarify.
"Everyone else out"...now that is amusing. :-).
In a sense I love questions like this because I know your motives and I know
the desire in you to seek for evil, to snare and condemn. The Lord won't
let it happen Gabriel.
He always gives the reply that is perfect...
The reply is, "His life is hid in Me. If you want to know about him, come
to Me and ask."
Michael Christ
PS Hey, what could be better than that!! Go to Jesus.
Michael Christ
> All of you is sin.
Thommadura wrote:
> Sorry - but NOBODY sins - that you can prove - or have proven
> It remains still another creation of human religions - nothing more.
Thommadura wrote:
Wild Bill
Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout the
ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of them to go
around...which one is the true one?
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
Michael Christ
"Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
> news:l8cXm.63344$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> All of you is sin.
>>
>> Thommadura wrote:
>>> Sorry - but NOBODY sins - that you can prove - or have proven
>>
>>> It remains still another creation of human religions - nothing more.
>>
>> Thommadura wrote:
>>> ANd there is NO truth about the "spirit of lord" that has been
>>> established.
>>>
>>> However - charity is still another trait of humans that has NOTHING to
>>> do with specific religions or gods.
>>>
>>> I am proud to say that ALL of my children have at least one adopted,
>>> foster - or guardian child. I have had 16.
>>
>> Glory, Oh praise of praises, lets us all gather at he feet of Thommadura
>> and
>> give thanks for his righteous ways!!
>>
>> You are blind fools.
>>
>> If you don't worship God, you worship yourself. You ain't good enough!
Bill wrote:
> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout the
> ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of them to go
> around...which one is the true one?
The only One.
Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
::: Jesus is LORD :::
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>> Pax pa...@whitesweb.com wrote in
>> 4b2c1ace$0$5347$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>>> news:BVSWm.63135$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ (jesus...@father.com) wrote:
>>>>>> Judging me in your habitual occasional sin does not maketh thee
>>>>>> righteous,
>>>>>> Gabs.
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel wrote:
>>>>> How is it possible that merely quoting what you've said in the
>>>>> past could even be construed as judging you? I thought you
>>>>> claimed to live perfectly sinless?
>>>>
>>>> Randy and your accusations do not constitute fact.
>>>>
>>>> Lord to find out what I am. I HAVE NEVER SAID I AM ANYTHING, those
>>>> accusations are made my you and your ilk to try and justify
>>>> yourselves. Gabriel wrote:
>>>>> So aren't every one of your
>>>>> posts perfectly without sin as well?!
>>>>
>>>> They are for there motive is pure. They are not bound by your man
>>>> made sinner morals and ethics.
>>>>
>>>> And your judgment of them in your sin is a waste of your time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel wrote:
>>>>> So you don't live perfectly
>>>>> sinless even though you continue to claim you do? Interesting ..
>>>>> please learn from how your own behavior contradicts the false
>>>>> doctrines you teach since you don't want to learn from God's
>>>>> Word, Michael. This is why you need to be confronted with the
>>>>> fact that you sin - seems to be the only way you're going to come
>>>>> back to the truth of God's Word:
>>>>
>>>> You make conclusions based upon your imperfect judgements and you
>>>> expect me to address them as fact?? :-).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel wrote:
>>>>> 1 John 1:8-2:1 KJV
>>>>> the truth is not in us.
>>>>> 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
>>>>> us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>>>> 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar,
>>>>> and his word is not in us.
>>>>> 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye
>>>>> sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father,
>>>>> Jesus Christ the righteous:
>>>>
>>>> is no justification for sin.
>>>>
>>>> to the Lord wholly and completely. That is the only way to be
>>>> changed. Until you do, you are claiming in your actions that you
>>>> walk in the light (verse 7) and you will never be cleansed of all
>>>> unrighteousness (verse 9). If you say you have fellowship with
>>>>
>>>> The whole of 1 John 1 flows beautifully but you and Randy butcher
>>>> it with your sin refuge based lying theology that seeks personal
>>>> glory and not the glory of a Holy God.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (KJV)
>>>> Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine,
>>>> but his that sent me.
>>>> Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the
>>>> doctrine, whether
>>>> it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
>>>> Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he
>>>> that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no
>>>> unrighteousness is
>>>> in him.
>>>>
>>>> It all depends on who is your Lord, Gabriel...you or Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> And you can't claim Jesus is Lord of your life while you walk in
>>>> darkness, no matter how 'occasional' it is!
>>>>
>> beautiful chapters in Scripture.
>
> Yes, it is, isn't it. :) It brings tears to my eyes every time I read
> it.
Oh yes, I know what you are talking about. God touches people with His
word. It is even more intensive when it is read aloud, like at church
during a sermon. God's Word never comes back void.
I also love Revelation 21:
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the
first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the
Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,
prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a
loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men,
and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself
will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their
eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the
old order of things has passed away."
5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!"
Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and
true."
6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the
Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink
without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes
will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
But there is so much more that can really touch me.
>> Amen, Pax, and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>
> Amen, indeed. :) Thank you, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to
> you and yours, too! :)
Thank you so much, Pax! :-)
>> Jesus is Lord.
>
> Yes, He is. :)
>
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
Indeed!
Jesus is Lord!
:-)
Always.
Michael Christ
"Fred Thomas" <fr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Michael Christ wrote:
>> The only One.
Fred wrote:
> And which one is that? There are many, many gods.
You already know.
Merry Christmas.
:-).
Michael Christ
Pax
Very true. :)
May the peace, hope and joy of Christmas be to you and yours, and a
wonderful New Year. :)
Pax
Yes, and your quote above is strengthening. :)
One of my favorite verses... (I can't decide on just one to be my favorite
lol)... is John 3:17 -- For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn
the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
That's a comforting message to remember during this time of year. :)
>>> Amen, Pax, and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>>
>> Amen, indeed. :) Thank you, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to
>> you and yours, too! :)
>
>
> Thank you so much, Pax! :-)
You're very welcome. :)
>>> Jesus is Lord.
>>
>> Yes, He is. :)
>>
>> Jesus is Lord,
>> Pax
>
> Indeed!
>
> Jesus is Lord!
>
> :-)
>
> Always.
Yes! :)
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Pax
> ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of them to go
> around...which one is the true one?
Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Wild Bill
Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
>
>
Fred Thomas
OK, you mean Mithra!
>
> :-).
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
>
>
Pax
How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
A god made by man, no matter how compelling it may be, is subordinate to its
creator(s). Only the God Who made Man and all the rest of Creation is the
One True God, and He is superior to His creation. His existence is not
dependent upon His creation, rather the existence of His creation is
dependent upon Him.
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Fred Thomas
So which supreme god is it then?
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
>
>
Wild Bill
>
> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b2e09f7$0$5356$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>
>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>
>>>> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout
>>>> the ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of
>>>> them to go around...which one is the true one?
>>>
>>> Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
>>
>> Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>
> How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
Bullshit! You were deliberately being vague and evasive in choosing which
god out of all the thousands is the true one. So please quit beating around
the bush and give us your honest opinion (and that's all it will be, and all
that I ask).
Pax
>
> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>> news:hglc6q$bue$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>
>>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b2e09f7$0$5356$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout
>>>>> the ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of
>>>>> them to go around...which one is the true one?
>>>>
>>>> Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
>>>
>>> Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>>
>> How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
>
> Bullshit! You were deliberately being vague and evasive in choosing which
> god out of all the thousands is the true one. So please quit beating
> around the bush and give us your honest opinion (and that's all it will
> be, and all that I ask).
He is not one of the created thousands, because He was not created by man.
He is the Creator.
Romans 1:20-23
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly
seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power
and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew
God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain
in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing
themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the
uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds,
and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto
us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Cor 3:19-20
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He
taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the
thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
Wild Bill
>
> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hglc6q$bue$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b2e09f7$0$5356$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout
>>>>>> the ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of
>>>>>> them to go around...which one is the true one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
>>>>
>>>> Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>>>
>>> How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
>>
>> Bullshit! You were deliberately being vague and evasive in choosing which
>> god out of all the thousands is the true one. So please quit beating
>> around the bush and give us your honest opinion (and that's all it will
>> be, and all that I ask).
>
>
> He is not one of the created thousands, because He was not created by man.
> He is the Creator.
Nope, wrong answer. Every god and religion has been created by man,
including the Christian God.
Fred Thomas
>
> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b2e47a9$0$5330$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>
>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hglc6q$bue$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b2e09f7$0$5356$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods throughout the
>>>>>> ages, and even in these modern times, there are still plenty of them to
>>>>>> go around...which one is the true one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
>>>>
>>>> Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>>>
>>> How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
>>
>> Bullshit! You were deliberately being vague and evasive in choosing which god
>> out of all the thousands is the true one. So please quit beating around the
>> bush and give us your honest opinion (and that's all it will be, and all that
>> I ask).
>
>
> He is not one of the created thousands, because He was not created by man. He
> is the Creator.
>
Pax
Your games are really lame. Because you're upside-down in the dark I'm
supposed to be, too? LOL Get real.
If you choose to be blind these days, you have to really work at it, what
with the Scientist High Priests of your atheist religion defecting to the
other side in droves. As more and more is being discovered about all aspects
of Creation, God is making Himself known to researchers from many diverse
branches of science. Even Stephen Hawking has admitted there must be a
God... not surprising, though, since theoretical physics and astrophysics
are perfect venues for coming face-to-face with God. But then, so are
biology and genetics.
In palaeontology, the Burgess Shale and, more recently, the spectacular
Chengjiang Maotianshan shales have pretty well put to rest the tired
Darwinian argument that the only reason progenitors of the fossils of the
Cambrian Explosion haven't been found is that they must have been
soft-bodied and, therefore, weren't preserved.
Heaven is free. If you refuse it, that's up to you.
Michael Christ
>
> "Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
> news:SIbXm.63340$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Pax wrote:
>>>I can't speak more clearly than God.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>Well then, I suppose you should quote the whole Bible.
>>
>> Pax wrote:
>>>Perhaps, in time.
>>
>>>The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>They certainly are.
>>
Pax wrote:
>>> Arms are meant to hold, comfort and protect.
Michael Christ wrote:
>> And more...like rescue.
Pax wrote:
> Very true. :)
>
> May the peace, hope and joy of Christmas be to you and yours, and a
> wonderful New Year. :)
Thank you.
Though I can't see any one day is different from the next.
I have tried doing the Christmas thing for years. Last year we did the
whole shebang and when it was all over I thought thank goodness. I was
driving over the local inlet where the ducks were swimming on that Christmas
day. They were feeding on the grass below the water line, their little
tails intermittently sitting up in the air, quietly, serenely, contently and
I thought about what was happening in the town with all the Christmas coming
and going and hustling and bustling and stress.
It is amazing how a duck can declare the peace of being still before the
Lord and resting in the Lord many times more than that of 'intellectual'
man. And you know what, when it was all over, the duck went on about
enjoying its given life the next day as well as though it was no different
day from the next. :-).
I often say this to friends. Forget my birthday and the presents, but treat
me like you do on it every day of the year...as so with Christmas.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ wrote:
>You already know.
>Merry Christmas.
Fred wrote:
> OK, you mean Mithra!
That's why I don't have much patience for you Fred, because you are
willfully ignorant and you think its clever.
Michael Christ
Thommadura
Sorry - but in this world - there are lots of REAL things (not gods) to
worship - and millions of gods that are not proven to be real - to be
deluded into worship
However - we are defined by our actions - not by our inaction.
Prayer and worship is the ULTIMATE inaction - it pretty much wastes time
for no proven benefit. Saying you will pray for someone is saying that
you have NO intention of actually doing something real to help that
person - it is a brush off.
Charity means actually doing something charitable - and that does not
mean donating to a church - where most of the money is NOT used for
charitable purposes.
Thommadura
> There is no justification in the Bible for sin no matter what Bible
> verse you quote, Randy.
Since there is NO such thing as "sin" - as defined by religions - it
makes no difference WHAT scripture you quote - unless you can PROVE a
god exists - which you cannot.
Therefore - justification is not needed for something that cannot be
done to begin with.
Thommadura
Gee - Michael - I have to post it again
PROVIDE A LIST OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN PROVE about your god - that we are
WILLFULLY ignorant about =- along with the proof
Failure to provide a list AND the proof - will be YOUR admission that
there is NOTHING we are willfully ignorant about gods and religions.
Thommadura
>
> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b2e47a9$0$5330$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>
>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hglc6q$bue$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b2e09f7$0$5356$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Wild Bill" <bils...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which God, Michael? Mankind has created thousands of gods
>>>>>> throughout the ages, and even in these modern times, there are
>>>>>> still plenty of them to go around...which one is the true one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Man has created thousands of gods, but only one God created Man.
>>>>
>>>> Why is everyone so evasive in answering this simple question?
>>>
>>> How was I being evasive? I was qualifying.
>>
>> Bullshit! You were deliberately being vague and evasive in choosing
>> which god out of all the thousands is the true one. So please quit
>> beating around the bush and give us your honest opinion (and that's
>> all it will be, and all that I ask).
>
>
> He is not one of the created thousands, because He was not created by
> man. He is the Creator.
Yet YOU quote the TOME(the bible) of your belief. ANd provide nothing
PROVEN other than your belief as support
Since the bible is simply a compilation of your religious beliefs - many
of which are proven to be in error - especially the creation - it does
not PROVE anything
And since you have not provided any testable and verifiable proof of
your claim - we dismiss it as UNSUPPORTED by you
Michael Christ
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Michael Christ
You are a loser now, and a bigger one to come.
"Thommadura" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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ThomM
> And you're no different.
>
> You are a loser now, and a bigger one to come.
No - you are the loser since YOU failed to provide that list of proven
things we are ignorant about
That is ACCEPTED as YOUR admission that there is NOTHING that we are
ignorant about gods =- as noted below - TOP POSTING will not change
that one either.
And since we are NOT ignorant about anything - as accepted BY YOU -
then your statement is worthless nonsense
Of course - you can always have your god appear and verify what you
say
I'll bet he won't do that either!
>
> "Thommadura" <tommad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4b2e968d$0$4982$607e...@cv.net...
>
> > Michael Christ wrote:
>
> >> "Fred Thomas" <f...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>news:hgldr0$6jd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>> "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:OvnXm.63512$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> >>>> "Fred Thomas" <f...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:hgk9i1$f4o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>>>> "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:6UgXm.63415$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> >>>>>> "Wild Bill" <bilsg...@daytonwa.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:hgk3i9$t7f$1...@news.parasun.com...
>
> >>>>>>> "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote in message
Fred Thomas
the birth date of the myth of jesus.
>
>
> Michael Christ
Fred Thomas
Really? Who?
>As more and more is being discovered about all aspects of Creation, God is
>making Himself known to researchers from many diverse branches of science. Even
>Stephen Hawking has admitted there must be a God.
Ahhhhhhhhhh.......no he did not. Maybe you ought to read his books.
>.. not surprising, though, since theoretical physics and astrophysics are
>perfect venues for coming face-to-face with God. But then, so are biology and
>genetics.
>
How?
> In palaeontology, the Burgess Shale and, more recently, the spectacular
> Chengjiang Maotianshan shales have pretty well put to rest the tired Darwinian
> argument that the only reason progenitors of the fossils of the Cambrian
> Explosion haven't been found is that they must have been soft-bodied and,
> therefore, weren't preserved.
>
The fossil record is poor, however not non-existence as you imply.
> Heaven is free. If you refuse it, that's up to you.
>
Heaven is not free, history has proved that.
>
>>> Romans 1:20-23
>>> For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly
>>> seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power
>>> and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew
>>> God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain
>>> in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing
>>> themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the
>>> uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds,
>>> and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
>>>
>>> 1 Cor 1:18
>>> For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto
>>> us which are saved it is the power of God.
>>>
>>> 1 Cor 3:19-20
>>> For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He
>>> taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the
>>> thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> A god made by man, no matter how compelling it may be, is subordinate to
>>>>> its creator(s). Only the God Who made Man and all the rest of Creation is
>>>>> the One True God, and He is superior to His creation. His existence is not
>>>>> dependent upon His creation, rather the existence of His creation is
>>>>> dependent upon Him.
>
Which supreme god, every civilization on earth has had some kind of supreme god.
>
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
>
>
Michael Christ
"ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 4:34 pm, "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote:
> And you're no different.
>
> You are a loser now, and a bigger one to come.
No - you are the loser since YOU failed to provide that list of proven
things we are ignorant about
That is ACCEPTED as YOUR admission that there is NOTHING that we are
ignorant about gods =- as noted below - TOP POSTING will not change
that one either.
And since we are NOT ignorant about anything - as accepted BY YOU -
then your statement is worthless nonsense
Of course - you can always have your god appear and verify what you
say
I'll bet he won't do that either!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Well you'll just have to continue worshipping yourself until He does.
Michael Christ
bob young
On 12/18/09 6:42 AM, in article
BtyWm.62917$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au, "Michael Christ"
<jesus...@father.com> wrote:
> They quote scriptures to try and justify their sin.
>
> The truth is they love their sin and not the God they profess to love.
Sin has always been a tool of the clergy, used and adopted to bolster
membership. It is seized upon with zeal because there is a universal
distaste for sin - even a thief gets highly agitated if someone breaks into
his home and steals his loot.
Sin was around long before man could speak in simple tongue, let alone
write. Eons later sin was
hijacked, applied, used, twisted and manipulated by the clergy with more
force and enthusiasm than any other example of religious dogma.
Until preachers and their hangers on, like Michael here, defer from
manipulating sin as a propagating tool - they too will never be free from
sin themselves.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
Pax
>
> "Pax" <pa...@whitesweb.com> wrote in message
> news:4b2e0738$0$5321$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>
>> "Michael Christ" <jesus...@father.com> wrote in message
>> news:SIbXm.63340$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Pax wrote:
>>>>I can't speak more clearly than God.
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>Well then, I suppose you should quote the whole Bible.
>>>
>>> Pax wrote:
>>>>Perhaps, in time.
>>>
>>>>The Body of Christ is where His arms are.
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>They certainly are.
>>>
>
> Pax wrote:
>>>> Arms are meant to hold, comfort and protect.
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> And more...like rescue.
>
> Pax wrote:
>> Very true. :)
>>
>> May the peace, hope and joy of Christmas be to you and yours, and a
>> wonderful New Year. :)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Though I can't see any one day is different from the next.
Any day is only as special as an individual decides it is. :)
> I have tried doing the Christmas thing for years. Last year we did the
> whole shebang and when it was all over I thought thank goodness. I was
> driving over the local inlet where the ducks were swimming on that
> Christmas day. They were feeding on the grass below the water line, their
> little tails intermittently sitting up in the air, quietly, serenely,
> contently and I thought about what was happening in the town with all the
> Christmas coming and going and hustling and bustling and stress.
>
> It is amazing how a duck can declare the peace of being still before the
> Lord and resting in the Lord many times more than that of 'intellectual'
> man. And you know what, when it was all over, the duck went on about
> enjoying its given life the next day as well as though it was no different
> day from the next. :-).
Nice story. :)
> I often say this to friends. Forget my birthday and the presents, but
> treat me like you do on it every day of the year...as so with Christmas.
I like that... and I try to follow it. :)
Here is part of a song of rejoicing from David concerning Him whose birth we
celebrate on Christmas:
Psalms 118:14-29
The LORD is my strength and song,
and is become my salvation.
The voice of rejoicing and salvation
is in the tabernacles of the righteous:
the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
The right hand of the LORD is exalted:
the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
I shall not die, but live,
and declare the works of the LORD.
The LORD hath chastened me sore:
but he hath not given me over unto death.
Open to me the gates of righteousness:
I will go into them,
and I will praise the LORD:
This gate of the LORD,
into which the righteous shall enter.
I will praise thee:
for thou hast heard me,
and art become my salvation.
The stone which the builders refused
is become the head stone of the corner.
This is the LORD's doing;
it is marvellous in our eyes.
This is the day which the LORD hath made;
we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD:
O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.
Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD:
we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.
God is the LORD, which hath shewed us light:
bind the sacrifice with cords,
even unto the horns of the altar.
Thou art my God, and I will praise thee:
thou art my God, I will exalt thee.
O give thanks unto the LORD;
for he is good:
for his mercy endureth for ever.
> Michael Christ
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Fred Thomas
' Rome is above the Nations, but Thou art over all!'
Now as the names are answered, and the guards are marched away,
Mithras, also a soldier, give us strength for the day!
Mithras, God of the Noontide, the heather swims in the heat,
Our helmets scorch our foreheads ; our sandals burn our feet.
Now in the ungirt hour; now ere we blink and drowse,
Mithras, also a soldier, keep us true to our vows !
Mithras, God of the Sunset, low on the Western main,
Thou descending immortal, immortal to rise again !
Now when the watch is ended, now when the wine is drawn,
Mithras, also a soldier, keep us pure till the dawn!
Mithras, God of the Midnight, here where the great bull dies,
Look on Thy children in darkness. Oh take our sacrifice !
Many roads Thou hast fashioned: all of them lead to the Light,
Mithras, also a soldier, teach us to die aright!
Thommadura
>
> "ThomM" <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:f57b212a-e9b5-48d2...@19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 20, 4:34 pm, "Michael Christ" <jesusisl...@father.com> wrote:
>> And you're no different.
>>
>> You are a loser now, and a bigger one to come.
>
> No - you are the loser since YOU failed to provide that list of proven
> things we are ignorant about
>
> That is ACCEPTED as YOUR admission that there is NOTHING that we are
> ignorant about gods =- as noted below - TOP POSTING will not change
> that one either.
>
>
> And since we are NOT ignorant about anything - as accepted BY YOU -
> then your statement is worthless nonsense
>
>
> Of course - you can always have your god appear and verify what you
> say
>
> I'll bet he won't do that either!
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Well you'll just have to continue worshipping yourself until He does.
>
>
No - It is OBVIOUS
IF you were actually telling the truth - it would be happy to back you up
THat it does not - could mean two things
1 - IT does not really exist to begin with
2 - WHat you say is not correct
Either way - there is NO reason to believe you
::: Jesus is LORD :::
4b2f65b0$0$5336$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net
Amen!
There are special days, and Christmas is one of them.
I am just glad that we can celebrate it in peace here in Germany, which
is not really a granted thing if we have a look to other countries where
Christians are not just cyber persecuted. Let us pray for their safety,
please.
>> Michael Christ
>
> Jesus is Lord,
> Pax
Jesus is Lord!
:-)
(..Matt B...)
Vera Six is the worst persecutors of Christians
Lets see her attempts
Dear Mr President
http://tinyurl.com/38hbky
Dear Mr. President,
please come over to the Christian newsgroups and have a look what is
going
on there. People are trying to make Allah leader of the newsgroups by
chasing all fundamental Christians away. I am one of those Christians
who
they try to chase away, and many good people have left. There is proof
enough for that. I made a homepage in 2003, but they are attacking it
all
the time, threatening me with a lot of things, and accusing me falsely
all
the time. I would leave there, but there is this website, and I have
the
mission to spread the (clear) Gospel into this world - according to
Matthew
28. People from everywhere come and read on my website (which I am
just
re-structuring). Some attackers even call it a cult, because they
cannot
stand Christians who really believe Jesus is God and have a personal
relationship to Him, and who believe in our inerrant Scripture. My
website
is no cult and has never been. It is so mean of people to say such
evil
things about me. In fact there are the testimonies of several
fundamental
Christians on it, and they have abused them all as much as they could.
It is
a shame. I am a regular member of a German Baptist church, by the way,
so
how can they dare calling me a cult leader all the time? Just because
I
speak a clear Gospel and take God's Word seriously?
I came to alt.christnet.christianlife and was happy to find others
that
still believe in God. I was so happy and grateful for that, but now
the
liberals (as well as the gays and their lobby like Rowland Croucher
with
his ministry from Australia) have ruined it all by very rude means
like
libel and worse things. I am a supporter of freedom and freedom of
speech,
but only as long as it does not become character assassination of
others.
Please come and look at it yourself. Please forgive me my grammatical
mistake, too, but English is my second language only.
I would love to hear from you.
God bless you and America,
~ vera ~
(your sister in Christ from Germany where I had to stop writing for
supporting you in the Iraq question)
And the peace of God,
which passeth all understanding,
shall keep your hearts and minds
through Christ Jesus.
(Philippians 4:7)
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Vera Six supported the Iraq matter.
All those killed
She is happy about
God Bless
Matt
Michael Christ
"(..Matt B...)" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cph0j5lrncmqhd7ai...@4ax.com...
All those Iraqi children and babies blown to pieces and left with horrific
injuries.
The crude oil of the un-annointed.
Michael Christ
::: Jesus is LORD :::
(..Matt B...) trdel...@gmail.com wrote in
dolf
and Internet Newsgroup bozo Michael Christ <Jesus...@Father.com> were
one and the same?
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "There are no laws or rules or
observances to keep, there is only life in the Spirit with the Lord and
being led by His will in your life."
Fred Thomas (187...@aol.com): "Wow, not only do you have a language
problem, but a real problem with paranoia. Dude, get help. You may be
more worse off than the good Dr Andy [Chung]."
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "Look Fred you are free to
continue following me around like a little lost puppy, but you are going
to have to have those homosexual inklings looked at.
Preferably not by a bloke who is married to the opposite sex but
practices homosexuality and insists you chase Christians around on
newsgroups waving your over-the-fence tendencies around.
No need to thank me."
(ru) dolf: "Michael, are you doing George Pell impersonations again?"
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "Why am I not surprised?! :-)."
Bazza Magoo (Barry [Lucy Boots] OGrady): "No intelligence detected
there. Michael Christ, is your middle name The?"
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "No, its Michael B Christ. Buddha."
(ru) dolf: "No Michael Christ is the most deluded, self-evident,
self-contradicting, brazen liar I have ever seen--for suggesting there
are no rules to keep in a spirit led life and then claiming there really
are laws for others which excludes homosexuality."
Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "May God bless, Carl."
(ru) dolf: "I've felt the same thing about the Church's preparedness to
use child sexual abuse as a political opportunity to interfere with the
inalienable rights of the autonomic right under the Commonwealth."
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "I've told you before...and
publicly noted."
(ru) dolf: "It is publicly noted that you are incapable of making any
value added statement in relation to that and that you are in fact
turning a blind eye to such conduct."
Michael Christ (Jesus...@Father.com): "Why do you expect
righteousness from that which is unrighteous through and through?"
On 22/12/09 3:42 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
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> "(..Matt B...)" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cph0j5lrncmqhd7ai...@4ax.com...
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Michael Christ
I know I have suffered greatly and been viciously hurt and cruelly and
mercilessly treated.
The Lord will take revenge upon her and deliver her to drink from her own
well of smelly dirty unclean and bad tasting terrible vintage cheap and
nasty wine of religious heretic soup with cro�tons. Unless...
...she decides to apologise to my person personally, and nicely, and repents
of her badness and not niceness towards me so she can be forgiven from her
wages of sin and uncaringlyness.
Michael Christ