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Re: Disapproving Creation: Why 60% of US Christians are Hypocrites

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Besque

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Nov 23, 2012, 6:28:07 PM11/23/12
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On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>
along with all
>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>> gospel!
>>
>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>> Budikka
>>
What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
>
> Demons certainly have a way of making their puppets sound as crazy as
> they do vicious.
>

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 23, 2012, 6:31:54 PM11/23/12
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Lie noted.

But that's all you fundamentalists have.

>> Demons certainly have a way of making their puppets sound as crazy as
>> they do vicious.

Question-begging stupidity noted.

But that's all you fundamentalists have.

Besque

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Nov 23, 2012, 6:35:52 PM11/23/12
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On 11/23/2012 6:31 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:28:07 -0500, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>>
>> along with all
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Lie noted.
>
So, are you asserting the above is _not_ a kindergarten version? I'm
surprised.

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 23, 2012, 6:44:11 PM11/23/12
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So, you are putting words into people's mouths they didn't say? I'm
not surprised.

It is simply how non-Christians react to Christians who hide behind
the Bible.

Budikka666

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Nov 23, 2012, 7:06:26 PM11/23/12
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Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
with it.

But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
time I bring up the topic?

Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.

Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
who are hypocrites.

Budikka

Zacharias Mulletstein

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Nov 24, 2012, 12:43:25 AM11/24/12
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"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I thought all they had was lies? Get it straight, hater.


Zacharias Mulletstein

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Nov 24, 2012, 12:44:33 AM11/24/12
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"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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100% of athiests hate God so much they're about to pop. There is no
question of this.


Devils Advocaat

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Nov 24, 2012, 2:37:35 AM11/24/12
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On 24 Nov, 05:44, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Atheists say god doesn't exist.

How can one hate something that doesn't exist?

That would be crazy.

Caranx latus

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Nov 24, 2012, 8:16:40 AM11/24/12
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No question in *your* mind, perhaps. In reality, not so much. It is
absolutely pointless to hate that which most likely does not exist.

Caranx latus

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Nov 24, 2012, 8:24:16 AM11/24/12
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Most atheists understand that "God doesn't exist" is a positive
statement that has no supporting evidence in *exactly* the same way that
"God exists" has no supporting evidence. When an atheist says that God
doesn't exist, they generally know that it is a statement of opinion,
the same way that "God exists" is an opinion.

> How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
>
> That would be crazy.

Yes, it would.

Devils Advocaat

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Nov 24, 2012, 8:28:17 AM11/24/12
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Thank you for that input, and it's clarification of the atheist
position.

I'm just a simple pragmatic agnostic.

Budikka666

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Nov 24, 2012, 8:57:32 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 23, 11:44 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Once again your mouth exceeds the capacity of yout brain. I hate no
Christians. I pity them, especially the brain-washed losers on
Usenet I detest what they're doing and trying to do to society. I
detest their lies and fraud. I detest their free pass from criticism
in all too many areas. That's what I'm solidly against, and you have
my cast-iron guarantee that I will fight the theist disease until it's
cured. Gott that straight now?

Budikka

Besque

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Nov 24, 2012, 10:29:45 AM11/24/12
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On 11/23/2012 7:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Nov 23, 5:28 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
No, this is your strawman concept which you lambast.
>
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
we could hold a discussion. But your infantile understanding
of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room. As I said my
4 year old ask more intelligent questions than you do.
>
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you. I don't know
you, I don't care about you, so, why should I try to convert you??
I'm only defending my religion against unwarranted, uncalled for and
unjust attacks.
>
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
What is real hypocrisy is trying to judge Christians by their own values
when you hold none of these values yourself.
>
> Budikka
>

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 24, 2012, 11:12:16 AM11/24/12
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Lie noted.

>> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
>> time I bring up the topic?
> >
>If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
>we could hold a discussion. But your infantile understanding
>of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room. As I said my
>4 year old ask more intelligent questions than you do.

More lies noted.

You are incapable of discussing anything because you insist it is from
the presumption that your religion is the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth, to people in the real world outside it.

>> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
>> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
>> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
>> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
> >
>I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you. I don't know
>you, I don't care about you, so, why should I try to convert you??
>I'm only defending my religion against unwarranted, uncalled for and
>unjust attacks.

Lie noted.

You are here talking as if your bullshit were the truth in the real
world outside your religion.

Because (quoting Robert Heinlein) you are too stupid to realise that
"one man's religion is another man's belly laugh".

But instead of realising this, you try to "defend" it using more
inside-the-religion stupidity that gets laughed at. - and expect us to
take it seriously.

>> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
>> who are hypocrites.
> >
>What is real hypocrisy is trying to judge Christians by their own values
>when you hold none of these values yourself.

What a fucking moron.

We're not the ones who proclaim that we are supposed to act according
to those values, lying hypocrite.

>> Budikka

What have we done to deserve the current crop of stupid, dishonest,
in-your-face, ignorant Liars For God?

Budikka666

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Nov 24, 2012, 7:28:29 PM11/24/12
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So now you're outright LYING that 40% of US adults believe in a 6,000
or so years old Earth? Get an education. Before you embarrass
yourself any more, go and get an education - an education as to what's
*really* going on around you; an education about what Christians in
the USA really believe and how they really behave.

> If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe

Everyone has now noted that you have flatly rejected your god's
demands and you will not even acknowledge your rejection of the very
god you hypocritically claim to worship.

> we could hold a discussion.

Not when you're LYING and running from your transgressions. Not when
you are flatly refusing to condemn scum like J Young.

> But your infantile understanding
> of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room

DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK OR DOES IT NOT?

DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO GO THE EXTRA MILE OR DOES IT NOT?

DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU NOT TO JUDGE OR DOES IT NOT?

DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND DEPART OR DOES IT
NOT?

ARE YOU IN COMPLETE DENIAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO OR
ARE YOU NOT?

Answer the questions instead of running from *every* *single* *one*
*that* *I've* *asked* *of* *you*, you worthless, lowlife, pathetic,
hypocritical coward for Christ. This is not rocket science, These
things are either in the Bible or they are not. Which is it? This is
***according to you*** the word of your own god which *you* are
proudly ignoring.

> I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you

Then quit posting to a.a. and quit supporting scum like J Young who do
post here. It's that simple. If you were any more dense you'd be a
heavy metal. You're already as toxic as one.

Budikka

Besque

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Nov 24, 2012, 7:38:30 PM11/24/12
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On 11/23/2012 7:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Nov 23, 5:28 pm, Besque <Bes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2012 1:01 PM, Eve wrote:> On 11/23/2012 12:06 PM, Budikka666 wrote:
>>>> Some 40% of the US adult Christian population (dis)honestly believe
>>>> the Bible literally: that Earth was created some 6,000 years ago along
>>>> with the entire universe (in only six 24 hour days!)
>>
>> >
>> along with all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> life on Earth. it was created by a big bearded magical giant in the
>>>> sky who nailed stars to a dome over our heads.
>>
>>>> The majority - the other 60% - reject the Bible creation story and the
>>>> Noahic flood story, but they accept the resurrection as...well, as
>>>> gospel!
>>
>>>> That's why they're hypocrites because they reject what *they* claim is
>>>> the inerrant word of their god when it suits them, but they swallow it
>>>> fantatically when it suits them to do that.
>>
>>>> You can prove how confused they are by asking any of them online what
>>>> the criteria are for determining if any given section of the Bible is
>>>> fiction (they call it allergory) and what is, supposedly, fact. If
>>>> you enjy makign beleivers uncomfortable, then go ahead and ask them
>>>> the toguh quesitosn and see how they evade, excuse, and plain run.
>>
>>>> Budikka
>>
>> What you have offered here is a kindergarten concept.
>
> Indeed it is, but it's what 40% of US adult Christians believe. Deal
> with it.
>
No, you have erected your own concept of a god who you are attacking.
That's OK with me.
>
> But let's consider *your* hypocrisy why don't we, since you RUN every
> time I bring up the topic?
>
No, I don't care if you attack your own strawman god.
>
> Your lord and master insisted that you *leave* and shake the dust from
> your feet when your inane proselytizing fails to impress people who
> are smarter than you, yet here you are, continuing to proselytize in
> direct and open defiance of what your lord instructed you to do.
>
Again I'm not proselytizing, you are here on alt Christian religion. So
who is engaged in this endeavor!
>
> Thanks for proving that you are amongst those 100% of US Christians
> who are hypocrites.
>
Obviously, you don't know the meaning of hypocrisy! Look it up!
You criticize Christians using their values of honesty, trustworthy,
sincere, kindness, but you don't hold any of those values yourself.
That's hypocracy.
>
> Budikka
>

Zacharias Mulletstein

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Nov 24, 2012, 9:40:38 PM11/24/12
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"Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Atheists say god doesn't exist.
>
> How can one hate something that doesn't exist?
>
> That would be crazy.

IKR?

Besque

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:23:14 PM11/27/12
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No, I wasn't: I was taking issue with your strawman concept of God. The
age of the earth is 4.6^9 years old.

Get an education. Before you embarrass
> yourself any more, go and get an education - an education as to what's
> *really* going on around you; an education about what Christians in
> the USA really believe and how they really behave.
>
This was not the issue! It's nothing more than a dodge.
>
>> If you were to discuss religion or any other subject like an adult maybe
>
> Everyone has now noted that you have flatly rejected your god's
> demands and you will not even acknowledge your rejection of the very
> god you hypocritically claim to worship.
>
>> we could hold a discussion.
>
> Not when you're LYING and running from your transgressions. Not when
> you are flatly refusing to condemn scum like J Young.
>
I know nothing at all about J. Young. Maybe I agree with him or maybe I
don't. I searched for J. Young's post in both alt.talk creationism and
alt.christian religion and I didn't find anything. I think this is
typical of you to dishonestly attack someone on the basis of something
you just made up whole cloth. It's a despicable tact.
>
>> But your infantile understanding
>> of Christianity and religion in general leaves no room
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO GO THE EXTRA MILE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU NOT TO JUDGE OR DOES IT NOT?
>
It does
>
> DOES YOUR BIBLE ORDER YOU TO SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND DEPART OR DOES IT
> NOT?
>
it does
>
> ARE YOU IN COMPLETE DENIAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO OR
> ARE YOU NOT?
>
No. This is in reference to treatment of other human beings. You're not
human!
>
> Answer the questions instead of running from *every* *single* *one*
> *that* *I've* *asked* *of* *you*, you worthless, lowlife, pathetic,
> hypocritical coward for Christ. This is not rocket science, These
> things are either in the Bible or they are not. Which is it? This is
> ***according to you*** the word of your own god which *you* are
> proudly ignoring.
>
>> I've got news for you, I'm not trying to proselytize you
>
> Then quit posting to a.a. and quit supporting scum like J Young who do
> post here. It's that simple. If you were any more dense you'd be a
> heavy metal. You're already as toxic as one.
>
I respond to what I find on alt christian religion and alt.talk
creationism. Here is where I find your crap!
>
> Budikka
>

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