feng shui rulers
wayne_rebecca
Does anyone know any specifics on the use, theory of construction, and
backround information for the Feng Shui Rulers?
wayne
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wayne_rebecca
>
> Maybe this is helpful to you
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9004105298/qid%3D948081374/104-9410611-6386852
Hi,
Holy Monoly....Where do I get a "Real Used" copy? I will definitely do
a interlibrary
loan request....but $178.00??? wow!
In the mean time, Do you know much about it?
syho
Maybe this is helpful to you
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9004105298/qid%3D948081374/104-9410611-6386852
On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:57:42 -0800, wayne_rebecca <wayne_...@iname.com>,
you wrote:
> hello,
>
> Does anyone know any specifics on the use, theory of construction, and
> backround information for the Feng Shui Rulers?
>
syho
It seems you thought that I was a good translator!?
Sorry! Your wish was broken!
On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:18:34 -0800, wayne_rebecca <wayne_...@iname.com>,
you wrote:
> syho wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this is helpful to you
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9004105298/qid%3D948081374/104-9410611-6386852
>
> Hi,
>
> Holy Monoly....Where do I get a "Real Used" copy? I will definitely do
> a interlibrary
> loan request....but $178.00??? wow!
>
> In the mean time, Do you know much about it?
>
fengshuiarchitect
Ruler. It is very similar to the one kept in the Beijing
Imperial Palace Museum. In the middle of the front and back
face, the ruler is marked into eight rectangular squares
with the following characters written on them;
Front:
Cai Mu Xing or Wealth Wood Star
Bing Tu Xing or Sickness Earth Star
Li Tu Xing or Separation Earth Star
Yi Shui Xing or Righteous Water Star
Guan Jin Xing or Official Metal Star
Jie Huo Xing or Robbery Fire Star
Hai Jin Xing or Harmful Metal Star
Ji Jin Xing or Auspicious Metal Star
Back:
Gui Ren Xing or Important Person Star
Tian Zai Xing or Natural Disaster Star
Tian Huo Xing or Natural Calamity Star
Tian Cai Xing Heavenly Wealth Star
Guan Lu Xing or Highly Paid Official Star
Du Gu Xing or Single and Lonely Star
Tian Zei Xing or Natural Thief Sar
Zai Xiang Xing or Prime Minister Star
The small characters on the sides, either in lots of two
characters or in lots of five characters, give a description
of various auspicious and inauspicious situations to go with
the quality of the stars in the middle.
The Luben Ruler is also called the Menguang Ruler. Menguang
can be translated as "giving light to a door". They were
used to establish the (in)auspiciousnes of a door opening
size and other objects required checking or making. It is
also called Baziche or Eight Characters Ruler for the
obvious reason.
In your ruler, the eight single characters in a standard
Luben ruler are expanded into 8 X 3 characters each ends
with the word Xing or star and an element is given in the
middle character.
Thus Cai stands for Cai Mu Xing and Bing stands for Bing Tu
Xing and so on. The four characters of Cai, Yi, Guan, and Ji
are considered auspicious while the other four are
considered inauspicious.
To use the Luben ruler, you simply start the measurement
with the Cai character and run the ruler along the length of
the door or object you wish to measure. If it stop at an
auspicious character then the total length is auspicious. If
it stops at an inauspicious character then the total length
is inauspicious. The judgement is always at the last few
inches, irrespective of the overall height or width.
I trust my rambling will help you make a decision towards
your offer of purchase. As far as I can see from the photos
it is a "proper" Feng Shui ruler.
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syho
Translator!
Please don't just describe the ruler, post the picture up here.
And also, please give us some explanation and hypotheses!
fengshuiarchitect
gets older.
One Australian says to another:
"Are you coming to die (day)?"
"No, tanks (thanks), I rather get a life instead of pissing
on this syho (shit hole)!"
You will get nothing from me,you syho, GROW UP!
fengshuiarchitect
when you can't even recognize a simple Lubenche, and when
your attitude is so bad? Poor sot,you can't even tell the
difference between being humorous and losing one's cool.
If you inferred that I got some of my information from books
(and it is not from the ISBN you have quoted), What is wrong
with that? We all refer to the Classics and reference books
when we study Feng Shui (and if I quote a book I will give
reference). You have got all the books but you don't read
them or translate them or make an attempt to understand
them, so what is the use to anyone? Instead of answering
people's querries, you refer them to expensive books, or
Chinese text when you know they can't read them. You are
indeed an annoying Xiaoren.
If you are trying to get some information out of me by
insulting me, you are not doing well.
"Heaven Heart?" You don't have! You don't have Rendao
either, all you do is to annoy people and insult people and
show people how smart and knowledgeable you are. Well, you
are not! Please go and do Joseph Yu's correspondence course
before speaking to us again, you syho!
syho
Be cool, translator.
If you want to give any enlightenment to subscribers, why do you not post
the picture to subscribers?
There are only few books talking about "Luben Ruler" and "Menguang Ruler".
Would you please give all subscribers the ISBN? You know many subscribers
start to translate Feng Shui books for learning more Feng Shui!
I have seen this book ISBN 957-531-551-0 in bookstore. Your description is
very similar to the content.
By the way, would you please tell us what "Heaven Heart" is?
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:48:31 -0800, fengshuiarchitect
<hchoyN...@ozemail.com.au.invalid>, you wrote:
> Humour is a little like Feng Shui, it gets better as one
> gets older.
>
> One Australian says to another:
>
> "Are you coming to die (day)?"
>
> "No, tanks (thanks), I rather get a life instead of pissing
> on this syho (shit hole)!"
>
> You will get nothing from me,you syho, GROW UP!
>
>
syho
Thanks!
Maybe subscribers also thank for getting some enlightments from you!
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:44:24 +1600, fengshuiarchitect
<hchoyN...@ozemail.com.au.invalid>, you wrote:
> Why should I speak to you about explainations and hypothesis
> when you can't even recognize a simple Lubenche, and when
> your attitude is so bad? Poor sot,you can't even tell the
> difference between being humorous and losing one's cool.
>
> If you inferred that I got some of my information from books
> (and it is not from the ISBN you have quoted), What is wrong
> with that? We all refer to the Classics and reference books
> when we study Feng Shui (and if I quote a book I will give
> reference). You have got all the books but you don't read
> them or translate them or make an attempt to understand
> them, so what is the use to anyone? Instead of answering
> people's querries, you refer them to expensive books, or
> Chinese text when you know they can't read them. You are
> indeed an annoying Xiaoren.
>
> If you are trying to get some information out of me by
> insulting me, you are not doing well.
>
> "Heaven Heart?" You don't have! You don't have Rendao
> either, all you do is to annoy people and insult people and
> show people how smart and knowledgeable you are. Well, you
> are not! Please go and do Joseph Yu's correspondence course
> before speaking to us again, you syho!
>
>
>
>
Laph7798
also a cynnical ethnographer wrote on the religious aspects of china named
j.j.j. Degroot
fengshuiarchitect
There are many types of Feng Shui rulers, the most popular
being the Yabai ruler and the Menguang ruler. We have
already looked at a Menguang or Luben ruler earlier, let us
now look at a Yaibai ruler in detail to get a better idea of
what Feng Shui rulers are all about.
Yabai ruler is not an instrument in the sense that you can
use it to measure an object. Yabai ruler is a set of rules
or formula based on the Feng Shui principles of
Yijing-Bagua, Yin Yang-Wuxing (Five Elements), and
Luoshu-Juigong (Nine Palaces). The units of measurement are
mixed with the Kanyu Nine Stars pattern to give rise to the
figures of 1 White, 2 Black, 3 Jade, 4 Green, 5 Yellow, 6
White, 7 Red, 8 White and 9 Purple. Kanyu tradition states
that the three White Stars are the auspicious stars;
therefore it is desirable to obtain the "White" measurement.
Hence it is called Yabai, or "to hold down the White" method
of measurement. Within the Nine Stars, the 9 Purple is also
considered quite auspicious, so it should be used with the
White Stars as well, hence the Yabai ruler is also called
the Zibai or Purple-White ruler.
The Yabai ruler has two methods of calculation. One is
called "Chebai" or "Ruler White" and the other is called
"Cunbai" or "Inch White". Chebai uses the Chinese foot as a
unit of measurement, whereas the Cunbai uses the Chinese
inch as a unit of measurement.
Generally speaking, in a large residential or public
building, such as a monastery or a palace, both the Chebai
and the Cunbai methods are used, whereas in a house or a
small building only Cunbai is used. The choice is based on
the size and importance of the building, with the principle
of "holding down the White" applying to all cases.
In order to make it easier to remember the formula for
calculations, a "koujue" or a terse formula (often a rhyme)
is used to aid the memory. The rhyming formula is divided
into Tian-fu-gua (or Heavenly Father Gua) and Di-mu-gua (or
Earthly Mother Gua).
The Tian-fu-Gua, whether it is in the Chebai or in the
Cunbai form, is used to determine the height of an object
whereas the Di-mu-gua is used to determine the width and the
breadth. The relationship between the vertical and the
horizontal is not about proportion, it is about a choice of
measurements as related to the orientation of the building.
Chebai is calculated by combining the gua of a "Sitting
Mountain" of a building with Chebai of the Nine Stars to
arrive at a series of auspicious measurements.
The Kanyu Nine Stars has its origin in the ancient astrology
using the position of the Big Dipper (Beidouxing) as a point
of reference to determine orientations and time (season).
The Big Dipper in the night sky looks like a ladle with a
handle attached to it. It has seven bright stars plus two
fainter ones, to make up the Nine Stars. The Big Dipper
rotates from east to west above the North Pole. It takes a
full year to complete one cycle. In spring, it is located to
the east, in summer to the south, in autumn to the west and
in winter to the north. The ancient Chinese used the
position of its rotation and the direction of the "handle"
to determine the four seasons and the four cardinal
directions.
The Feng Shui experts later transformed the Nine Stars of
the Big Dipper into the Kan-Yu Nine Stars of Tanlang, Jumen,
Lucen, Wengu, Lianzhen, Wuqu, Pojun, Zuofu and Yubei. They
also used their sequence and their patterns to match the
Five Elements (Wuxing) with the Bazhai (Eight Houses)
orientations. Tanlang is Sheng Qi and belongs to Wood. Jumen
is Tian Yi and belongs to Earth. Lucen is Huohai and belongs
to Earth, Wenqu is Liusha and belongs to Water, Lianzhen is
Wugui and belongs to Fire, Wuqu is Yunnian and belongs to
Metal and Fubi is Fuwei and belongs to Wood.
In the pattern, we have Eight Houses of Eight Stars mixed
with Five Elements. There are one each of Water and Fire and
two each of Wood, Metal and Earth. Kanyu experts reckoned
that Tanlang (Wood) Juman (Earth), Wuqu (Metal) and Fubi
(Wood) give rise and support each other therefore they are
the auspicious stars. Pojun (Metal), Lucen (Earth), Wenqu
(Water) and Lianzhen (Fire) weaken and control each other,
so they are considered to be the inauspicious stars. The Kan
Yu experts often use the Nine Stars to determine the Feng
Shui of a house.
Chebai Nine Stars in fact don't have any "White Stars" to
speak of, they borrowed the quality assigned to the Nine
Stars and called the lucky ones the "White Stars".
In the Chebai rhyming formula (koujue), the eight gua(s) in
the Tian-fu-gua and the Di-mu-gua is paired with the nine
Kanyu stars (Zuofu and Yubi stars are combined into one).
The pairing refers to the first "foot" of the series of
numbers, with 2,3,4…etc to follow. By knowing the
(in)auspiciousness of a Kanyu Star, we will know the (in)
auspiciousness of a measurement.
Chart 1
Rhyming Formula for Chebai
TIAN-FU-GUA
Qian - Yubi
Li-Pojuu
Rui-Tanlang
Zhen - Jumen
Xun - Lianzhen
Gen - Wuqu
Kan- Wenqu
Kun-Lucen
DI-MU-GUA
Gen - Tanlang
Xun - Jumen
Qian - Lucen
Li - Wenqu
Zhen - Lianzhen
Rui - Wuqu
Kan - Pojun
Kun - Yubi
For example, in the above rhyming formula for Chebai, (Chart
1), Qian-Yubi in the Tian-fu-gua means if the house is
sitting on the Qian Mountain, then the first "foot" is
counted from the Yubi star, with Tanlang being the Second
Star and Jumman being the third etc. Thus, we will be able
to arrive at a table of auspicious measurements for a house
sitting on the Qian Mountain.
In order to match the sequence of the measurements with the
gua of orientation of a building, we need to carry out the
following 2 steps:
1. Determine the orientation of the building (the sitting
and facing position), by looking at the Ming Gua of the
owner or by looking at the sitting of the building in its
topography. Let us take an example, for instance, when we
have decided that the building is facing due east, we know
that it is sitting on due west. In the Luopan 24 mountains,
it will read as You Mountain facing Mao.
2. The second step for us is to convert the 24 Mountain
readings into one of the eight gua, using the Najia method
of conversion. The Bagua Najia method has its origin in the
Daoist art of "Liandan Shu". The Bagua is used to explain
and to match the waxing and waning of the moon and the
changing of the seasons. Later, they combined the Bagua
Najia with the 24 Mountains to establish the 24 Mountains
Najia" method: Using this method, we can determine the gua
of a building by reading the compass to see where the
Sitting Mountain is located. In the example used above, we
can see from the attached Chart of the 24 Mountains Najia,
(Chart 2), that a building sitting on the You Mountain
facing Mao belongs to the Rui Gua.
Chart 2
24 Mountains Najia
Qian na jia
Kun na Yi
Xun na Xin
Gen na Bing
Kan na Gui, Zi, Shen, Chen
Zhen na Geng, Hai, Mao, Wei
Li na Ren, Yin, Wu, Xu
Rui na Ding, Si, You, Chou
By looking up the Rhyming Formula for Chebai, we know that
in the Tian-fu-gua, the Rui Gua starts with the Tanlang as
the first foot, followed by Juman and Luchen etc. In the
Di-mu-gua, the Rui Gua starts with the Wugu as the first
foot, followed by Pojun and Zuofu etc.
From the Tian-fu-gua and the Di-mu-gua we can construct a
chart of (in)auspicious measurements. For a building sitting
on You Mountain facing Mao. Refer to attached Chart (Chart
3). So if you are to build a building sitting on You
Mountain, then the units of measurement should be selected
from the numbers matched up with the auspicious stars
(Tanlang, Juman, Wuqu and Zuofu).
For height, look up the Tian-fu-gua table as for width and
breadth, look up the Di-mu-gua table. In this case, if you
have a building that is 21 feet long by 14 feet wide and 11
foot high, it considered auspicious. If it is 20 feet by 15
feet by 12 feet high, it is considered inauspicious.
As mentioned earlier for an ordinary small building like a
house, we use the Cunbai method instead of the Chebai
method. In the Lubenjing, only the Cunbai method is used.
Chart 3
Chebai Chart for (In)Auspicious Measurement for a Building
sitting on You Mountain facing Wu.
NINE STARS TIAN-FU-GUA DI-MU-GUA
TAN-LANG
°° 1
10
19
5
14
JUMAN
°° 2
11
20
6
15
LUCHEN 3
12
21
7
16
WENGU 4
13
22
8
17
LIAN-ZHEN 5
14
23 6
15
24
WUQU
°° 6
15
24 1
10
19
POJUN 7
16
25 2
11
20
ZUOFU
°° 8
17
26 3
12
21
YUBI 9
18
27 etc 4
13
22 etc
°° - Auspicious stars
Cunbai is calculated by combining the Kanyu Nine Stars with
the Nine Colours to arrive at the sequence of (in)auspicious
measurements. Kanyu experts used the Nine Stars with the
Five Elements (Wuxing) to determine which star is auspicious
and which not. Within the Nine Stars, four are auspicious (1
white, 6 white, 8 white and 9 purple) and the rest are
inauspicious. Both the Tian-fu-gua and Di-mu-gua of a Cunbai
formula are determined by the Nine Colours.
Similar to Chebai, in Cunbai, we need to match the
orientation of a building with the measurements. However, in
Cunbai, we have Nine Colours to go into eight gua, therefore
in the Cunbai rhyming formula, the 1 white is eliminated
from the Tian-fu-gua and the 9 purple is eliminated from the
Di-mu-gua.
By looking up the Rhyming formula for the Cunbai below
(Chart 4), we can construct a chart of (in)auspicious
measurements.
Chart 4
Rhyming Formula for Cunbai
TIAN-FU-GUA
Qian - 4 Green
Rui - 7 Red
Zhen - 5 Yellow
Kan - 2 Black
Li - 8 White
Kun - 3 Jade
Xun - 9 Purple
Gen - 6 White
DI-MU-GUA
Qian - 1 White
Li - 2 Black
Zhen - 3 Jade
Rui - 4 Green
Kan - 5 Yellow
Kun - 6 White
Xun - 7 Red
Gen - 8 White
For example, for a house facing due south, that is sitting
due north and having a Zi Mountain facing Wu. We can
construct the Cunbai Table of (in)auspicious measurements by
going through the same procedure as for Chebai:
1. Determining the sitting and facing direction. Iin our
example mentioned it has a Zi Mountain facing Wu.
2. Look up the 24 Mountain Najia Chart. In our case, Zi
Mountain belongs to Kan Gua.
3. Look up Rhyming Formula for Cunbai. In our case, Kan gua
in Tian-fu-gua starts with 2 Black and in Di-mu-gua Kan gua
starts with 5 Yellow.
From this information, we can construct a Cunbai Chart for
(in)auspicious measurement as shown below (Chart 5)
Chart 5
Cunbai Chart for (in)auspicious measurement for a building
sitting on Zi Mountain facing Wu
PURPLE WHITE TIAN-FU-GUA DI-MU-GUA
1 WHITE
°° 9 6
2 BLACK 1
10 7
3 JADE 2
11 8
4 GREEN 3
12 9
5 YELLOW 4
13 1
10
6 WHITE
°° 5
14 2
11
7 RED 6
15 3
12
8 WHITE
°° 7
16 4
13
9 PURPLE
°° 8
17
etc. 5
14
°° - Auspicious colours
In this instance, for a house facing due south, using the
units of 5,7,8 and 9 vertically are good. Horizontally,
using units of 3,4,6 etc are also good.
syho
<hchoyN...@ozemail.com.au.invalid>, you wrote:
> Yabai Feng Shui Ruler
>
>
> There are many types of Feng Shui rulers, the most popular
> being the Yabai ruler and the Menguang ruler. We have
> already looked at a Menguang or Luben ruler earlier, let us
> now look at a Yaibai ruler in detail to get a better idea of
> what Feng Shui rulers are all about.
>
> Yabai ruler is not an instrument in the sense that you can
> use it to measure an object. Yabai ruler is a set of rules
> or formula based on the Feng Shui principles of
> Yijing-Bagua, Yin Yang-Wuxing (Five Elements), and
> Luoshu-Juigong (Nine Palaces). The units of measurement are
> mixed with the Kanyu Nine Stars pattern to give rise to the
> figures of 1 White, 2 Black, 3 Jade, 4 Green, 5 Yellow, 6
> White, 7 Red, 8 White and 9 Purple. Kanyu tradition states
> that the three White Stars are the auspicious stars;
> therefore it is desirable to obtain the "White" measurement.
>
Translator, would you please tell us what the Yijing-Bagua is?
Would your please tell us what the differences among Yijing-Bagua, Xian Tian
Bagua and Hou Tian Bagua?
Would you please tell us what the the Luoshu-Juigong is?
What is the difference between Kanyu Nine Stars and nine Flying stars?
We know that Yi means the changes, and Xuan Kong or Kan Yu always emphasize
"changes", why three White stars are auspicious?
> Hence it is called Yabai, or "to hold down the White" method
> of measurement. Within the Nine Stars, the 9 Purple is also
> considered quite auspicious, so it should be used with the
> White Stars as well, hence the Yabai ruler is also called
> the Zibai or Purple-White ruler.
>
What is the meaning "quite auspicious"?
Would you please tell us which classics mentioned about Zibai or
Purple-white ruler?
> The Yabai ruler has two methods of calculation. One is
> called "Chebai" or "Ruler White" and the other is called
> "Cunbai" or "Inch White". Chebai uses the Chinese foot as a
> unit of measurement, whereas the Cunbai uses the Chinese
> inch as a unit of measurement.
>
> Generally speaking, in a large residential or public
> building, such as a monastery or a palace, both the Chebai
> and the Cunbai methods are used, whereas in a house or a
> small building only Cunbai is used. The choice is based on
> the size and importance of the building, with the principle
> of "holding down the White" applying to all cases.
>
> In order to make it easier to remember the formula for
> calculations, a "koujue" or a terse formula (often a rhyme)
> is used to aid the memory. The rhyming formula is divided
> into Tian-fu-gua (or Heavenly Father Gua) and Di-mu-gua (or
> Earthly Mother Gua).
>
> The Tian-fu-Gua, whether it is in the Chebai or in the
> Cunbai form, is used to determine the height of an object
> whereas the Di-mu-gua is used to determine the width and the
> breadth. The relationship between the vertical and the
> horizontal is not about proportion, it is about a choice of
> measurements as related to the orientation of the building.
>
It seems you cannot tell us what the Tian Fu Gua or Di Mu Gua are, maybe you
need to ask your "master" what the Fan Gua or Bian Gua is,
Do you know what the Tian Fu Gua or Di Mu Gua are, the changing method is
quite different from what you mentioned in the above?
In Xuan Kong or many schools of Feng Shui, they use nine flying stars
referring to "Cycles", Periods", etc.
Do you mean that all funitures or buildings should be changed the dimensions
while the "Cycles" or "Periods" changed?
............
...........
...........
...........
fengshuiarchitect
You took the bait! There are 2 obvious mistakes in my
explanation due to my inability to work the computer
format and you have missed them both. That shows you have no
idea what I am talking about. May I suggest that you enrol
in Joseph Yu's correspondence course and learn some Feng
Shui fundamentals before you nitpicking. You are not as
smart as you think you are, poor sot!
FSA
wayne_rebecca
What are the errors?
wayne
fengshuiarchitect wrote:
>
> Hi, Syho,
> You took the bait! There are 2 obvious mistakes in my
> explanation due to my inability to work the computer
> format and you have missed them both. That shows you have no
> idea what I am talking about. May I suggest that you enrol
> in Joseph Yu's correspondence course and learn some Feng
> Shui fundamentals before you nitpicking. You are not as
> smart as you think you are, poor sot!
> FSA
>
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syho
Two?
Translator, all subscribers believe that even you don't know how many errors
you have made in the past! There has no need to point out your errors
So, what I do is to give enlightments to subscribers!
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:31:37 -0800, fengshuiarchitect
<hchoyN...@ozemail.com.au.invalid>, you wrote:
> Hi, Syho,
> You took the bait! There are 2 obvious mistakes in my
> explanation due to my inability to work the computer
> format and you have missed them both. That shows you have no
> idea what I am talking about. May I suggest that you enrol
> in Joseph Yu's correspondence course and learn some Feng
> Shui fundamentals before you nitpicking. You are not as
> smart as you think you are, poor sot!
> FSA
>
>
J. Shelton Myers
syho wrote in message <389174e5...@news.netvigator.com>...
>
>Two?
>
>Translator, all subscribers believe that even you don't know how many
errors
>you have made in the past! There has no need to point out your errors
>
>So, what I do is to give enlightments to subscribers!
>
>
>
>
><hchoyN...@ozemail.com.au.invalid>, you wrote:
>
>> Hi, Syho,
>> You took the bait! There are 2 obvious mistakes in my
>> explanation due to my inability to work the computer
>> format and you have missed them both. That shows you have no
>> idea what I am talking about. May I suggest that you enrol
>> in Joseph Yu's correspondence course and learn some Feng
>> Shui fundamentals before you nitpicking. You are not as
>> smart as you think you are, poor sot!
>> FSA
>>
>>
PLEUNG1005
How? S Ho?