Network Plus
Nightwing
Is anyone in here really here to talk about the network plus
certification????????
A. G.
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A. G.
Nightwing <Nigh...@dellmail.com> wrote in message
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Mike Metcalf
a little B.S. going on. Can't we all just get along?? ha ha. out
Tom MacIntyre
>Yes ... I am
>
>It's gone a bit quiet in here since CompTIA announced that the pass mark for
>Network+ has been increased to 82%.
>
>I think many people are waiting to see if Network+ is going to be recognised
>(more than it is now) before they shell out $185 dollars on the test.
I've seen it stated, and I agree, that for $15 more you can have your
MCP and be 2 of 6 towards your MCSE. I like the idea of the non-vendor
specific cert, though.
Tom
>
>I really wanted to study for the Network+, but, I have had to reconsider for a
>variety of reasons:
>
>1. Recognition
>2. Credibility
>3. Pass mark change
>4. I want to do the MCSE but, I am up against time to get some Windows NT 4.0
>tests done before they are retired (therefore I don't have time for the
>Network+)
>5. Do I want to use $185 dollars on just one test for Network+ OR for just
>another 15 dollars, I can do two MCP tests.
>
>I wish I could have done the Network+ test ...I liked the subject matter and I
>bought a couple of books for it and started studying for it.
>
>I don't think CompTIA have thought this one through ...
>
>Comments?
>
>Cheers,
>Tony
>
>
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ACullen184
I like the non-vendor specific Network+ cert ... and I think it is a good
progression from the A+ cert (which I have just obtained).
Unfortunately, the job agencies and other people in the industry don't really
know much about it. They understand A+, MCP/MCSE, CNA/CNE, CCNA/CCIE.
So, I don't want to pay "top dollar" for a cert that isn't recognised very much
... nomatter how much *I* like it ...
Cheers,
Tony
Andrew Dacey
Then maybe putting the money towards MCP exams is a better route. From
what's been said, for $15 more you could have 2 MCP exams under your
belt. Later, if you find that network+ starts getting more recognition,
or that it can be used as your network essentials or CNA (or both), then
do it. The other possibility could be that the material covered could be
good study material for the Network essentials and/or CNA exam, which
means that while it might not be useable instead of the exam, you
wouldn't have to study as much in order to get those exams done.
I went the CCNA route instead and don't have any intention of really
persuing the network+ cert. Mainly because from what I gather, I've
already covered more in depth networking theory, and the NOS material
(which would be of use for me) isn't covered in much depth. From the
impression I've gotten, it would be a step down in difficulty, rather
than a step up, so I feel that my time and money are better spent in
working towards higher Cisco certs (or other certs all together). That's
not to say that it wouldn't be right for you though.
Just my thoughts,
Frugal
Roger D. Clark
I have to agree with you. It is by FAR more detailed than Net Essentials
and I was told that until a certain date MS is actually accepting it as a
replacement temporarily for their Net Essentials. This may or may not be
100% accurate but it came from New Horizons Computer Learning Center in Blue
Ash Ohio and they have me on their MCSE track. Regardless, one will be more
knowledgeable and should pass the Net Essentials with ease if they had to
take a seperate MS test. For just the amount in dollars for the 2 tests (if
in fact you have to take both, but like I said I don't think so) you can be
certified in Network+, Test in Net Essentials, AND as I understand get part
of the Novell track out of the way since they recognize Net+ as an OFFICIAL
replacement. Sum total: One class and/or one book, up to two tests, and 3
certifications. To ME this seems like a much, much better deal. Oh, I
should be taking Net+ within the week. Wish me luck. With the power
companies behind CompTIA, and the sum total of employees they hire, I don't
possibly see how you can fail in the future with Net+ or A+. Long live
CompTIA! (Oh, and MS)......
Roger
"Shadow Hunter" <No...@Biteme.com> wrote in message
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>
> >I've seen it stated, and I agree, that for $15 more you can have your
> >MCP and be 2 of 6 towards your MCSE. I like the idea of the non-vendor
> >specific cert, though.
> >
> >Tom
>
> This is the route I'm taking until MS gets things cleared away with
> the MCSE crap. I decided to take the A+ tests and get them out of the
> way since I need them for any decent job in the Computer Industry and
> then knowing CompTIA's success rate with test recognition go for
> Network+. I'm expecting Network+ will be an important replacement in
> the field as Microsoft is retiring Network Essentials and I believe
> personally that Network+ will be a replacement for that test, not by
> Microsoft just generally speaking.
>
> Shadow Hunter
>
A. G.
Roger D. Clark <rcl...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Shadow,
>
> I have to agree with you. It is by FAR more detailed than Net Essentials
> and I was told that until a certain date MS is actually accepting it as a
> replacement temporarily for their Net Essentials
this year. Net Essentials is to be combined with other tests. Is seems
that they are making the tests harder in order to get rid of so called
"paper MCSEs".
The last part is a rumor only the first part is sure. It is posted on MS
website.
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A. G.
Of making many books there is no end
and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Ec. 12:12
JEFFKRAUSS
stated on their website (paraphrasing):
1) Windows 2000 is much more difficult and incorporates more complex material
than the NT4.0 and incorporates previously elective materials into core
materials (i.e. TCP/IP).
2) That they expect that those pursuing MCSE for W2K will have at least 1 year
of experience in the appropriate environment
3) That the test questions are largely "case study" and "scenario" based
requiring that successful applicants will not just be able to get by with rote
memorization but will have to have wisdom (e.g. the ability to apply their
knowledge in a practical situation).
I definitely find it more intimidating that the previous requirements.
However, I believe that they are being presumptive in how quickly the need for
NT qualified MCSE's will diminish. As previously mentioned on this board, many
companies are going to stick with what they have for quite a while as long as
it continues to meet their needs (in my opinion, longer than a year or two).
Jeff
>Subject: Re: Network Plus
>From: "A. G." agwr...@up-link.net
>Date: 2/21/00 12:48 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <Pwhs4.58407$ox5.15...@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>
Roger D. Clark
temporarily (like I did) here is a excerpt of a message I just received FROM
MS verifying that it is indeed NOT true (so I was in fact wrong):
Hello Roger,
Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding CompTIA Network. You were
given misinformation by the Learning Center. The Microsoft Certified
Professional program grants credit for the networking exam requirement
to candidates who are certified as Novell CNEs, Master CNEs, ECNEs, or
CNIs, Banyan CBSs or CBEs, or Sun Certified Network Administrators for
Solaris 2.5 or 2.6. Current proof of certification status is required
when registering with Sylvan Prometric. This credit is granted only
after the candidate has registered for or taken another Microsoft
Certified Professional exam. To receive this exam waiver, fax or email
proof of your certification to one of the following: 1-801-579-2815
attn. MCP Programs or M...@msprograms.com.
If there is anything else we can do for you, please let us know. Thank
you for e-mailing us at M...@msprograms.com.
Thank you,
Kristina B
M...@msprograms.com
http://www.microsoft.com/mcp/
Boy does that suck.
Roger
"A. G." <agwr...@up-link.net> wrote in message
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>
> JEFFKRAUSS <jeffk...@aol.comdamspam> wrote in message
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> I must agree with you about people upgrading to 2000. According to ZDnet
> only about 10% of NT users are going to upgrade immediately. The rest are
> going to let others do their beta testing for them. I would imagine that
> most people will wait for at least the first service pack.
A. G.
Tim Davis
know that Network+ and CCNA overlap, but what I am finding is that Network+
is covering much more of the actual hardware needed to network. The CCNA
covered pretty much only what was needed for a general overview, so that the
router function makes sense.
The problem that I am finding is that every employer wants work experience.
The CCNA seems to be to vender specific, and is keeping me from an entry
level position.....I am hoping that the Network+ will gain some recognition,
and maybe open the door wide enough for me to get through.
tim
Shadow Hunter
<sir_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tim,
One thing to remember to is A+ would also be a great way to go as
it is not vendor specific and is an industry recognized certification
in that you than know something about the hardware, Dos, Windows 3.x
and Windows 9x. So don't overlook the A+ as it's a great starting
point. I'm taking my A+ this coming Thursday (March 2nd) and then
start studying the Network+. Once I have Network+ I'm not sure but I
think I'm going to go for Novell's CNA since I already have at least a
Windows 98 MCP so it'll show that I have some experience in various
OS's and systems hoping to improve my chances of a Job. Then after
that I'm either going to obtain the CNE or MCSE or just finish the
MCP+I portion and then get CNE or MCSE. I haven't figured out which
one yet but know I want at least ONE major certification. My dad works
for as a hardware tech for a computer repair center in the area and he
is a CNE. The company gets so much money back from Compaq and other
vendors when they have 3 CNE's onboard and the I think the same goes
for MCSE's even though Microsoft might be different. So remember too,
that your certification may be needed to save the company money. :)
Shadow Hunter
Rob
away.
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:53:48 -0500, "Roger D. Clark" <rcl...@fuse.net>
wrote:
samantha thomas
> Is anyone in here really here to talk about the network plus
> certification????????
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