Confederacy of Dunces: YOU DECIDE!
Korben_Dallas
NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
in this newsgroup.
Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
in her hairdryer.
Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
precious little idea how things operate outside his
basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
lapel pins.
Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
Candidate C: Hugely obese Star Trek fanboy. Better technical
knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
shall I do?". He is over forty.
Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
porn in Photoshop.
Candidate D: A stoner who looked just like Jay of 'Jay and
Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
cover while he was 'down'.
Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
KD
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-g
Mugwump
your boss. Nobody with any kind of self respect would have
agreed to do this kind of interview. I'd say quit, but, if I'm
guessing correctly, I'd say they're having you interview your
replacement. So go with four. Your company's going to need a new
blow job queen after you're gone.
doc rogers
say C or D. But it would be useful to have more information. What kinds of
technical questions did you give them? What were their answers? You also
didn't mention their Linux abilities.
C would probably be more stable than D, but it sounds like D's technical
knowledge might be superior.
Personally, I don't see a problem with slightly personalities as long as
they get the job done.
--doc
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doc rogers
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never know , if she fucks up bad enough , she may blow you to get you to
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Rick M
> 17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
I'd make a decision to quit, screw that.
Is the hire going to be working directly with you? If so, do you get
overtime? <hint hint> Might be a golden opportunity to score some bucks
before you bail.
Tom MacIntyre
<dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
>My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
>NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
>worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
>rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
>interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
>are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
>Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
>lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
>in this newsgroup.
>
>Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
>17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>
>Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
>before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
>MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
>in her hairdryer.
>
>Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
>repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
>precious little idea how things operate outside his
>basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
>lapel pins.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
>about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
Take this one, B...reasons...less potential for harm, overall. Also, a
Rooster Cogburn (John Wayne) quote from True Grit, paraphrased...he
"reminds me of me". He has technical experience, no matter how it is
regarded (I hope that my electronics experience is not dismissed in
any attempt I make to get an IT job), and the initiative to build his
own home network should be respected. Give him extra points again if
he has ever tried to interface his home network with a vending
machine; that would show both vision and initiative. Given a chance,
he may rise to the challenge. How long of a probationary period does
your company have? Give him goals to meet before the probation ends,
and watch him go. He'll do the little extra things outside of paid
hours to enable him to succeed.
Tom
den...@bellsouth.net
the high turnover rate and all, this guy will stick around at least
until he gets off of probation.
Eric
with YOU? You clearly have to go with the nice tits. At least there
is something to look at all day. Also, with her "low level" of
technical expertise, you can mold her to your needs. Be
her "swengali". Dammit, do a little training for once.
The other people sound like total losers. Nerd boy, momma's boy and
bad boy, respectively.
How much are you paying and where are you located? I'll possibly take
the job.
Eric
In article <0ddc255a...@usw-ex0107-055.remarq.com>,
Korben_Dallas <dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
> My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
> NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
> worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
> rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
> interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
> are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
> Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
> lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
> in this newsgroup.
>
> Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
> 17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>
> Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
> before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
> MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
> Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
> in her hairdryer.
>
> Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
> repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
> precious little idea how things operate outside his
> basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
> lapel pins.
> Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
> about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
>
> Candidate C: Hugely obese Star Trek fanboy. Better technical
> knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
> cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
> shall I do?". He is over forty.
> Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
> porn in Photoshop.
>
> Candidate D: A stoner who looked just like Jay of 'Jay and
> Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
> was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
> finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
> girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
> cover while he was 'down'.
> Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
> pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
>
> KD
>
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Dave Adams
: My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
: NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
: worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
: rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
: interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
: are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
: Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
: lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
: in this newsgroup.
Call the recruiter and ask for more candidates. Ask them to try for a better
caliber this time. If you work in the minor leagues, that's one thing. If
you work in the pro's, it's another.
Dave
KC5MD
Women tend to learn faster than men,(at least thats what my wife tells me), she
will probably be fairly loyal, won't mind the OT
and there's always the Nice Tits issue.
Fat Boy will take long lunches, constantly be calling mommy, missing work
because of stomach ailments and will be looking for a Real MCSE position before
long.
Don't even consider the stoner...theres always the possibility of him going
postal after he learns he has to pull OT and he has plans of "toking" that
night.
Last but certainly not least...Forget the religious nutcase.
I don't trust anyone that finds it necessary to display his religion...trust
me, before long there will be problems with him telling you the wonders of God
or Jesus or whatever his "Sect" pushes and he won't take no for an answer when
he asks you to attend a Prayer meeting or Buy a Watchtower from him.
I have nothing against religion, just its members.
All major wars have been directly attributed to religious matters.
Good Luck recruiting...its a no win situation for you.
Claire Miraglia
ability level is higher than A and the disaster potential the least
disasterous of the three. A little conversation you don't agree with won't
be detrimental and he'll probably be more manageable and open to suggestion
due to his lower level of ability and gentler nature than C&D. Sometimes
people with more ability are less adaptable to your ways and will challenge
the way you want it done. He won't be suing you for sexual harrasment or
discrimination, he won't be spending a lot of time looking for star trek
memorabilia or porn sites on the web and he won't beat the shit out of you
when you push the wrong buttons.
"Korben_Dallas" <dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:0ddc255a...@usw-ex0107-055.remarq.com...
> My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
> NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
> worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
> rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
> interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
> are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
> Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
> lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
> in this newsgroup.
>
Absinthe
and tell them that they are no meeting you standards and to please send over
someone that is more qualified, if not, dump the agency. If you or your
boss is not in a position to do so, and you MUST pick from the 4, conduct a
final interview, set up a lab scenario that includes a HW & SW problem and
then see what happens. Don't look for someone to fix it outright, but
rather the way that they go about trying to troubleshoot the problem. Allow
them to ask questions about your layout, but don't allow them to baby their
way to the answer either. You can base your decision on what questions they
ask you and what they do to solve the problem... are they afraid to open the
case... did they miss the blatantly obvious... etc. I would NOT pick
number 4 at all... he came off as rather unstable & discussing his "time"
during an interview to such great lengths is always a clue that the person
will be trouble.
--
Heather
--
Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow - Eric S. Raymond
http://members.xoom.com/Absinthe_Gre
~~~~~~~
Ron Kell
answer to this obvious fake scenario. I was tempted to flame this one
out of general principle and obvious boredom, like yelling at the kids
to settle them down, but the mature answer works much better.
Claire Miraglia wrote:
>
> I know you want to hire A, but B would be the best choice, considering the
> ability level is higher than A and the disaster potential the least
> disasterous of the three. A little conversation you don't agree with won't
> be detrimental and he'll probably be more manageable and open to suggestion
> due to his lower level of ability and gentler nature than C&D. Sometimes
> people with more ability are less adaptable to your ways and will challenge
> the way you want it done. He won't be suing you for sexual harrasment or
> discrimination, he won't be spending a lot of time looking for star trek
> memorabilia or porn sites on the web and he won't beat the shit out of you
> when you push the wrong buttons.
>
--
Ron Kell
Certified Instructor - Flights of Fancy
Tangent Airlines
When all else fails, Fly off on a Tangent.
CORGIGLEN
is not good to be around.
I would probably pick B because he seems to have the most potential. He has
earned a MCSE on his own. As far as his religion is concerned, it shouldn't
really matter unless he's in some strange cult.
I hope that those suggesting you pick A because she has "nice tits" are
kidding.
But if she is trashy looking and does not work out, it will reflect poorly upon
you.
People may think you hired her for the wrong reasons and this will not help
your reputation.
In a tight labor market you are going to have to train, so I'd pick the
candidate who I thought was the most motivated or had the highest IQ. And I
would exclude D because he seems antisocial.
J.Newberry
-v-
Ahah! The "Kobayashi Maru scenario" test for MCSE ?
No I wouldn't take C. This is your personal test Grasshopper, choose wisely
.
--
-v-
Mike Baker
Jefferson Talbot
FredG
When they do that glasses and hair shake-out thing it's *sooooo* horny! My
favourite part in all the films.
Korben_Dallas wrote in message
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Stanley W. Rogouski
It's possible that her level of technical knowledge may be low,
but it's also possible that Korben may be too sexist to see
anything else.
You can't really tell from the post though. But what you can
tell is that
A: Didn't seem to do anything terribly wrong during the
interview, except having the wrong chromosomes.
B: Wore a Jesus Lapel Pin. Didn't necessarily talk about it.
C: Called his mother on his cell phone (during the interview?)
D: Discussed his record of assault against his girlfriend.
Pretty stupid obviously, but, if you look at Korben's attitude
towards women, obviously the right thing to say in this
circumstance. It seems to have convinced Korben that his
technical knowledge was superior (it's really unlikely that he
read Mark Minasi in prison).
Then again, this post is probably just a troll.
In article <0ddc255a...@usw-ex0107-055.remarq.com>,
Korben_Dallas <dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
>My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
>NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
>worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
>rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
>interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
>are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
>Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
>lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
>in this newsgroup.
>
>Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
>17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>
>Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
Martyn Harrison
<dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
I vote for candidate D:
1) Bound to be more interesting than the others
2) Is sure to reduce the number of problems raised by the users
(particularly the serial whingers) making the job easier for any
replacements
3) May be useful in arranging death or injury should you find youself
in need of such services
4) Is technically competent (this is your criteria, when they whinge
about the serial killings you say "but I don't understand the alcohol
processing units, and anyway, what is wrong with killing them? He
scored highest on the technical competency test I set them all..."
5) Do you really want your boss to get you to do these little
selections by yourself any more times?
Dave Adams
: If you read between the lines, A is actually the best candidate.
: It's possible that her level of technical knowledge may be low,
: but it's also possible that Korben may be too sexist to see
: anything else.
:
: You can't really tell from the post though. But what you can
: tell is that
:
: A: Didn't seem to do anything terribly wrong during the
: interview, except having the wrong chromosomes.
I suppose, if you don't count a "hilariously low level of technical ability"
as terribly wrong.
What do her chromosomes have to do with it? Is it because he said she had
nice tits? Looks like a physical observation to me, right up there with
"hugely obese" and "he looks like Jay". Are you one of those PC people who
are so afraid of saying the wrong thing that you can't even compliment a
nice feature of another person?
In any case, I thought his post was hilarious. "...Janeway porn in
Photoshop..." Classic. The "blowjobs for a pack of Kool's" was right up
there too. Great stuff.
By the way, if someone with a "hilariously low level of technical ability"
is your idea of the best candidate, it's no wonder it took you so long to
find a job.
Dave
blazeia
Center". He seems (from what I can read into it) that he is willing to
learn. Now A might have a slight chance...she may be fun to have around the
office.....but then that's not too professional (might be a blast at the
Christmas party though...lol). Definitely not C..the guy probably had his
mum dress him that morning and she made his breakfast...How can you expect
to have someone like that make a decision if his mum laid out his undies in
the morning. Definitely not D. I see "Disgruntled Employee Stalks Whiny
Customer." NOPE NOT good for business.
gugnheim <gugnhei...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Stanley W. Rogouski
In article <8fnem...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Dave Adams"
Stanley W. Rogouski
I still have you so angry from two months ago you're not even
reading my post correctly.
If you'll notice the phrases "read between the lines" and "can't
tell only by his post." I'm basically saying that I don't
believe Korben's assessment of candidate A. She might have had
a "hiliriously low level of technical ability" but it's also
possible that Korben's attitude towards women doesn't allow him
to see clearly enough to make an accurate judgement.
Perhaps you should cool down a bit. You're letting a personal
grudge against me make a fool out of you.
And yes, as I'm sure you'll remind me, I supposedly put you into
my kill file a few months ago. Unfortunately there are no kill
files in Remarq, but I find that it's easier to keep track of
posts using a web based newsreader than with Outlook Express or
Free Agent so reading your posts is simply one of the things
I'll have to put up with.
No loss. I obviously piss you off a lot more than you piss me
off.
Love and Kisses,
Your Good Friend Stan.
Kevin
Kevin
On Sat, 13 May 2000 23:03:44 -0700, Korben_Dallas
<dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
>My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
>NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
>worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
>rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
>interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
>are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
>Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
>lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
>in this newsgroup.
>
>Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
>17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>
>Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
>before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
>MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
>in her hairdryer.
>
No
Low technical ability
Has MCSE though
Worth considering, but B sounds better.
>Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
>repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
>precious little idea how things operate outside his
>basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
>lapel pins.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
>about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
>
Yes
Has paper MCSE
Repairs vending machines (ability to solve technical (even electrical)
problems
Has set up own network
The job is for desktop support tech, not network
administrator/engineer. He should do fine.
Okay, so he has the little fish pin. As I do not believe any god, I
scratch my head at these people. On the good side, god (God to them)
can act as an excellent internal policeman, governing their behavior.
They will not curse and will be as nice as possible.
As far as the potiential disaster scenario. It's best to agree to
disagree with these people. Their beliefs are based on faith, not
facts. An intelligent conversation is not possible. IHMO How do I
know this? My wife stops just short of wearing a pin.
>Candidate C: Hugely obese Star Trek fanboy. Better technical
>knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
>cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
>shall I do?". He is over forty.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
>porn in Photoshop.
>
No way. He cannot make decisions (without his mother's help of
course), which is a very important quality to have. He's already
bitching about the position. His being over forty and still living
with his mom spells social misfit. He is not able to interact with
others, except for possibly other trekkers. sp?
I love Star Trek (except for original series) too, but lets not go
there.
>Candidate D: A stoner who looked just like Jay of 'Jay and
>Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
>was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
>finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
>girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
>cover while he was 'down'.
>Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
>pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
>
No way. Foul mouth. Violent. Druggie. No MCSE.
>KD
Kevin
Kevin
On Sun, 14 May 2000 15:05:36 GMT, "Claire Miraglia"
<cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>I know you want to hire A, but B would be the best choice, considering the
>ability level is higher than A and the disaster potential the least
>disasterous of the three. A little conversation you don't agree with won't
>be detrimental and he'll probably be more manageable and open to suggestion
>due to his lower level of ability and gentler nature than C&D. Sometimes
>people with more ability are less adaptable to your ways and will challenge
>the way you want it done. He won't be suing you for sexual harrasment or
>discrimination, he won't be spending a lot of time looking for star trek
>memorabilia or porn sites on the web and he won't beat the shit out of you
>when you push the wrong buttons.
>
>"Korben_Dallas" <dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0ddc255a...@usw-ex0107-055.remarq.com...
>> My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
>> NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
>> worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
>> rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
>> interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
>> are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
>> Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
>> lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
>> in this newsgroup.
>>
>> Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
>> 17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>>
>> Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
>> before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
>> MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
>> Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
>> in her hairdryer.
>>
>> Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
>> repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
>> precious little idea how things operate outside his
>> basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
>> lapel pins.
>> Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
>> about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
>>
>> Candidate C: Hugely obese Star Trek fanboy. Better technical
>> knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
>> cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
>> shall I do?". He is over forty.
>> Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
>> porn in Photoshop.
>>
>> Candidate D: A stoner who looked just like Jay of 'Jay and
>> Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
>> was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
>> finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
>> girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
>> cover while he was 'down'.
>> Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
>> pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
>>
Kevin
gear for multiplayer Half-Life.
Kevin
On Mon, 15 May 2000 03:07:28 GMT, Kevin
<kgr...@DELETE-THIS-STOPPERhouston.rr.com> wrote:
>I say, go with B. Explanations follow.
>
>Kevin
>
>
>On Sat, 13 May 2000 23:03:44 -0700, Korben_Dallas
><dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
>>NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
>>worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
>>rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
>>interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
>>are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
>>Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
>>lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
>>in this newsgroup.
>>
>>Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
>>17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
>>
>>Candidate A: Looks like one of those chicks in a porno movie
>>before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
>>MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
>>Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
>>in her hairdryer.
>>
>
>No
>
>Low technical ability
>Has MCSE though
>Worth considering, but B sounds better.
>
>>Candidate B: Classic thirtysomething paper MCSE. Currently
>>repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
>>precious little idea how things operate outside his
>>basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
>>lapel pins.
>>Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
>>about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
>>
>
>Yes
>
>Has paper MCSE
>Repairs vending machines (ability to solve technical (even electrical)
>problems
>Has set up own network
>
>The job is for desktop support tech, not network
>administrator/engineer. He should do fine.
>
>Okay, so he has the little fish pin. As I do not believe any god, I
>scratch my head at these people. On the good side, god (God to them)
>can act as an excellent internal policeman, governing their behavior.
>
>They will not curse and will be as nice as possible.
>
>As far as the potiential disaster scenario. It's best to agree to
>disagree with these people. Their beliefs are based on faith, not
>facts. An intelligent conversation is not possible. IHMO How do I
>know this? My wife stops just short of wearing a pin.
>
>>Candidate C: Hugely obese Star Trek fanboy. Better technical
>>knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
>>cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
>>shall I do?". He is over forty.
>>Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
>>porn in Photoshop.
>>
>
>No way. He cannot make decisions (without his mother's help of
>course), which is a very important quality to have. He's already
>bitching about the position. His being over forty and still living
>with his mom spells social misfit. He is not able to interact with
>others, except for possibly other trekkers. sp?
>
>I love Star Trek (except for original series) too, but lets not go
>there.
>
>>Candidate D: A stoner who looked just like Jay of 'Jay and
>>Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
>>was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
>>finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
>>girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
>>cover while he was 'down'.
>>Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
>>pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
>>
>
>No way. Foul mouth. Violent. Druggie. No MCSE.
>
>
Absinthe
qualifies as a long time
--
Heather
--
Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow - Eric S. Raymond
http://members.xoom.com/Absinthe_Gre
~~~~~~~
"Dave Adams" <da...@address.intentionally.munged> wrote in message
news:8fnem...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> "Stanley W. Rogouski" <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote :
> : If you read between the lines, A is actually the best candidate.
> : It's possible that her level of technical knowledge may be low,
> : but it's also possible that Korben may be too sexist to see
> : anything else.
> :
> : You can't really tell from the post though. But what you can
> : tell is that
> :
> : A: Didn't seem to do anything terribly wrong during the
> : interview, except having the wrong chromosomes.
>
> I suppose, if you don't count a "hilariously low level of technical
ability"
> as terribly wrong.
>
> What do her chromosomes have to do with it? Is it because he said she had
> nice tits? Looks like a physical observation to me, right up there with
> "hugely obese" and "he looks like Jay". Are you one of those PC people who
> are so afraid of saying the wrong thing that you can't even compliment a
> nice feature of another person?
>
> In any case, I thought his post was hilarious. "...Janeway porn in
> Photoshop..." Classic. The "blowjobs for a pack of Kool's" was right up
> there too. Great stuff.
>
> By the way, if someone with a "hilariously low level of technical ability"
Stanley W. Rogouski
but me find a post about some asshole beating up his girlfriend
not funny?
Absinthe
true, painting a criminal as a woman beater is nothing unusual
and if it is true, then why in the world anyone would hire this
guy as he braggs about being locked up for beating down his
woman is beyond me. The interview would have been over right
there as far as I am concerned. Point being, regardless if this
post is a troll or not, I just don't see how his usage of a
woman beater in this instance could offend anyone. It would be
different if he said that he was agreeing with the man, but he
never said that.
no sig
--
Heather
Terry G
1. Either get A & B in for a really tough second technical interview
or arrange with your weasle supervisor or agency to get some better
candidates. (Yes, I'm including A, in the spirit of Erin Brockavich...)
2. Make the best decision you can. Let it be clearly known that it
was you who faced the gun without flinching. And if you get the
opportunity, do some more of the responsibilities of your supervisor,
do it better than he can, until you've taken the job away from the
punk.
I've faced this myself, except I had the added pleasure of firing
employees when the decicision "had to be made and executed" while he
was on vacation. I got what experience I could from the job and jumped
ship. My supe was later forced out.
In article <rtquhs46u74mi3nh0...@4ax.com>,
Kevin <kgr...@DELETE-THIS-STOPPERhouston.rr.com> wrote:
> And yes, it's probably a troll, but I couldn't get my brain in high
> gear for multiplayer Half-Life.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 03:07:28 GMT, Kevin
> <kgr...@DELETE-THIS-STOPPERhouston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I say, go with B. Explanations follow.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 13 May 2000 23:03:44 -0700, Korben_Dallas
> ><dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>My company is recruiting for a desktop support tech - mainly
> >>NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
> >>worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
> >>rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
> >>interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
> >>are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
> >>Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
> >>lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
> >>in this newsgroup.
> >>
> >>Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
> >>17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
> >>
Stanley W. Rogouski
geniune problem with women.
Point one. We have no idea about the real level of candidate A's
technical knowledge. We only see her through the eyes of Korben
Dallas (am I the only one who sees this?).
Point two. If I'm interviewing you for a job and you brag to me
that you did time for beating up your girlfriend, I throw you
out of my office, no further questions or discussions. In real
life, if I meet a woman beater, I don't question him about Mark
Minasi.
Absinthe
didn't take offense to the soman beater thing. The way he
painted Candidate A is quite another story. And the resopnses
to his posts, those goading him to hire Candidate A because at
least he would have something to look at or boff all day long is
appauling. But the way he painted "A" could very rightly so be
accurate... or not, we don't know. However, everyone else
saying that he should hire her just so he could stare at he tits
all day jsut goes to show how sexism still has a hold, even in
IT.
no sig
--
Heather
Stanley W. Rogouski
original poster.
1.) He's unable to stand up to his boss. Nothing against him
here. Most of us have a hard time doing this.
2.) He obviously isn't "getting enough" in real life, or he
would have been able to interview candidate A without imaging
her as a character in a porno movie.
3.) And this is the point that bothers me the most. He seems to
have a giggly schoolboy admiration for candidate D. He's already
imagining him down on his knees giving blowjobs. Sounds like a
real schoolboy crush to me.
In article <14c88a3e...@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>,
Absinthe
babe" posts... 1, yeah, but not as many as there are.
Stanley W. Rogouski
possibilities, including:
1.) She was totally in control of the interview. Her level of
technical knowledge was "laughably low" but she knew how to give
off the kind of signals that would make him believe that he
actually had a chance with her, and, thus, at least get onto his
short list. Perhaps she wasn't even very attractive but knew the
right kind of body language to grab the attention of her
obviously immature interviewer.
2.) He was totally in control and made a fool out of her. Her
level of technical knowledge wasn't laughably low. Possible. He
did say she had an MCSE. Interesting how only 9% of all MCSE's
are women but well over half the examples of technically
illiterate "Paper MCSEs" in this group are women. Perhaps she
was very attractive, but, in spite of all of her efforts to look
professional, couldn't get little Korben to take her seriously
("She looked like one of those chicks in a porno movie before
she shakes out her hair and takes off her glasses.").
The whole issue of whether being an attractive woman increases
your chances of being hired is more than a double edged sword.
It is possible that you can be an attractive woman who's
technically astute, technically illiterate, or all degrees in
between. After all, I see some male computer professionals who
look like Brad Pitt, some who look like candidate C. Looks
really don't have much bearing on your intelligence.
So does it increase her chances of getting a job. It both
increases and decreases them. Increases them because some man
might hire her because he "likes her tits." Decreases them
because for all of her (possible) technical knowledge, no man
will see beyond her "nice tits."
And her looks could also cause resentment in a female
interviewer.
Claire Miraglia
prejudice in every form. Look how freely the poster (if for real)
criticisized each candidate for what he considers shortcomings. He noted
breast size, body size and religious beliefs as criteria to making his
decision. The woman who wore her hair up and glasses was possibly trying to
downplay her looks, but nooo!! he pictures her with her hair down and the
glasses removed. Maybe she should have bound her breasts!!! He is
obviously as biased as the day long. I don't think this person should be in
a position to make hiring decisions. Unfortunately these type people are
everywhere, but not always as obvious or forthcoming as this poster, who
righteously displays his ignorance. I worked as a bartender at one time and
was asked by one of the customers if I would like to work as an assistant at
his place of employment. It sounded like a good job at the time so I said
"sure". He consulted his boss about it, who also drank at this place. He
came back to tell me that his boss did not like the idea as he thought I
would be too much of a distraction. He considered this some sort of
compliment. Go figure. Claire
Just to clarify: If not obvious, my response to the original post was meant
to be sarcastic.
"Absinthe" <absinthe...@underwriters.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:14c88a3e...@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com...
> His problem with women is obvious, but the way he stated it, I
> didn't take offense to the soman beater thing. The way he
> painted Candidate A is quite another story. And the resopnses
> to his posts, those goading him to hire Candidate A because at
> least he would have something to look at or boff all day long is
> appauling. But the way he painted "A" could very rightly so be
> accurate... or not, we don't know. However, everyone else
> saying that he should hire her just so he could stare at he tits
> all day jsut goes to show how sexism still has a hold, even in
> IT.
>
>
> no sig
> --
> Heather
Claire Miraglia
"Stanley W. Rogouski" <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Stanley W. Rogouski
In article <dwUT4.11500
$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Claire Miraglia"
<cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>You are EXACTLY right!!! Where does Brad Pitt work?
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large, evil, satanic corporation that used to employ me (a
middle aged man verging on old with a wife in her mid 30s) was
trying to hire a secretary. He absolutely refused to consider
any woman under 30. In his eyes, he was being enlightened
(hiring a middle-aged woman who would actually be able to do the
job instead of eye candy). But he was really showing off either
his (a) dislike of young women or (b) his fear of his wife. In
any case, the job he was hiring for could have been done by a 25
year old or a 50 year old woman (or man, for that matter), and,
since the pool of applicants for these kinds of jobs in New York
tend to be blue-collar women in their 20s, he was ruling out a
lot of potentially qualified candidates.
So does being a young, attractive woman help or hurt you. Both,
obviously.
In article <anUT4.11496
$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Claire Miraglia"
<cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote:
sharkfish
entry level to 1 year of experience MCSE types in the market,
you should have a better pool of candidates.
I daresay your view of the candidates is probably very tainted
by your prejudices.
And get a new job soon, because your boss is going to make you
train this new person, pay them less, then have them replace
you. If you trust your boss, then by all means, stay and pick
the one you can stand working with for 8 hours a day. From the
sound of it, none of these people knows what they are doing, and
you are going to have to teach them everything.
This is why I get every job I interview for...I make myself
likeable, and mirror the behavior of the interviewer. Because
in the end, unless you do a lab test, you really won't know the
candidate's knowledge or potential for the job. And no
interviewer has ever made me do a lab test, yet.
Sharkfish
Claire Miraglia
"Kevin" <kgr...@DELETE-THIS-STOPPERhouston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5pquhs09f54rdoa15...@4ax.com...
> LOL I particularly liked the last part.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> On Sun, 14 May 2000 15:05:36 GMT, "Claire Miraglia"
> <cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> >I know you want to hire A, but B would be the best choice, considering
the
> >ability level is higher than A and the disaster potential the least
> >disasterous of the three. A little conversation you don't agree with
won't
> >be detrimental and he'll probably be more manageable and open to
suggestion
> >due to his lower level of ability and gentler nature than C&D. Sometimes
> >people with more ability are less adaptable to your ways and will
challenge
> >the way you want it done. He won't be suing you for sexual harrasment or
> >discrimination, he won't be spending a lot of time looking for star trek
> >memorabilia or porn sites on the web and he won't beat the shit out of
you
> >when you push the wrong buttons.
> >
> >"Korben_Dallas" <dallkorb...@netscape.net.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:0ddc255a...@usw-ex0107-055.remarq.com...
> >> NT4.0, some Linux. The recruitment agency has sent us the four
> >> worst candidates EVER. My boss, very perceptively, sniffing the
> >> rank odour of impending disaster in the air has told ME to
> >> interview them all and hire one. Having interviewed them they
> >> are all so bad I can't decide between them. So, in the style of
> >> Pontius Pilate, I am washing my hands of the whole affair. The
> >> lucky winner of this entry level job will be decided by a poll
> >> in this newsgroup.
> >>
> >> Remember: vote early and vote often. Polls close on Wednesday
> >> 17th, when I am supposed to have made my 'decision'.
> >>
> >> before they take their glasses off and shake their hair out. An
> >> MCSE but hilariously low level of technical ability. Nice tits.
> >> Potential Disaster Scenario: powers off Corebuilder 3500 to plug
> >> in her hairdryer.
> >>
> >> repairs vending machines. Has a three node home network but
> >> precious little idea how things operate outside his
> >> basement 'Data Center'. Also had one of those little Jesus fish
> >> lapel pins.
> >> Potential Disaster Scenario: Initiates glassy eyed conversations
> >> about the origins of the universe around the water cooler.
> >>
> >> knowledge than B. At the end of the interview made a call on his
> >> cell phone saying, "Mom, it's just desktop not server, what
> >> shall I do?". He is over forty.
> >> Potential Disaster Scenario: Gets caught making Captain Janeway
> >> porn in Photoshop.
> >>
> >> Silent Bob' fame. Every other word out of his mouth
> >> was 'motherfucker'. Freely disclosed the fact that he had just
> >> finished 10 months in jail for beating the shit out of his
> >> girlfriend. No MCSE but technically good. Read Minasi cover to
> >> cover while he was 'down'.
> >> Potential Disaster Scenario: He starts giving blow jobs for a
> >> pack of Kools a time in the men's bathroom.
> >>
sharkfish
aside.
A client of mine showed me her 'trophies'...two pictures of
dead, old white men that left her over a $1 million each in
insurance money.
Sharkfish
In article <01b68f94...@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>,
Absinthe <absinthe...@underwriters.com.invalid> wrote:
>Its all sad. I never expected to see so many "Hire the hot
>babe" posts... 1, yeah, but not as many as there are.
>
>
>no sig
>--
Stanley W. Rogouski
It takes two genders to dance the misogynist tango.
Do you really think you can use someone like this without
fucking with your own head?
Absinthe
no sig
--
Heather
Martyn Harrison
<absinthe...@underwriters.com.invalid> wrote:
>Its all sad. I never expected to see so many "Hire the hot
>babe" posts... 1, yeah, but not as many as there are.
Have you counted the number of people who didn't post A ?
sharkfish
I can't imagine why you guys (Stan and Absinthe) didn't take
that as a joke (although it's true). I try my best not to use
others, except to learn from them.
Of course, the boob guys didn't answer my post. They are trying
to avoid the reality by making a joke about what makes them feel
uncomfortable--women with boob power. Allie McBeal's 'Ling'
character illustrates my point in several episodes.
I believe my whole point is/was...that you can't change the
world. You either manipulate the current, go with the current,
or get swallowed by the current.
People suck. They pick illogical job candidates. They pay them
more money than you.
Why do you think Hollywood can exist? Skinny girls with big
tits and unreal guys with six packs and great hair. I don't see
either of these in real life often, but let's face it...
you can't go wrong hiring these stereotypes. I worked for a
company that had many competent workers...but sales were down,
so a new manager was hired to replace the 50-something, fat
woman with excellent credentials. Her replacement? White guy
with management hair! Who subsequently hired at least 15
blondes, male and female. Even the white folks noticed that the
blonde to brunette ration was almost 20 to 1! Suddenly, sales
went up. He also preferred the stereotypical techie white guy
to replace me (the manager--a prejudiced prick from Indiana--was
uncomfortable with me for some reason). I went on to bigger and
better things, but I trained this guy, to make less than me.
Anyway...life's not fair, good looking people have more
opportunities, and techies, however logical they may be, are
still just as stupid about their own prejudices as the rest of
the population.
So...I lost 30 lbs., emphasize my breasts, wear makeup, and let
my hair grow back to shoulder length so I could earn the money I
make now.
My soul no longer suffers from the cognitive dissonance. I
realize that I am one of the privileged few that enjoys a
significant advantage over others. And that de-emphasizing
my 'assets' made me the loser...at least now I can afford to
take a vacation and I can work from home now and hang out in
newsgroups, naked!
This is your world. Get used to it. It really sucks.
Sharkfish
Stanley W. Rogouski
My world isn't perfect but I at least hold out some hope that
men and women can relate to each other in a non-manipulative
way.
To tell you the truth, most people don't stand out one way or
the other, as very good looking or very unattractive. They tend
to become that way as you get to know them.
Imagination has a lot to do with it.
I've got a Patti Smith tape in my Walkman not a Brittany Spears
tape.
sharkfish
change at the same time. I've never actually fit in, but I'm doing my
darndest so I can afford the lifestyle I am accustomed.
Of course, I want everyone to be chosen for a particular job on their merit
and performance. It just doesn't happen that way. I think you would agree
that this phenomena occurs in YOUR world, too.
Unfortunately, while my personal life is as close as I can get it to the
ideal, my work life/world is not anywhere near this ideal. And your choice
of Patti Smith over Brittany is admirable..although I would hope that your
choice of art/music/leisure is something above the teenage variety.
Sharkfish
P.S. I am currently a Jason Kidd (the basketball player) and Lenny Kravitz
(musician) fan...they look good AND are talented! Not to mention
Borg-ian...mixed race backgrounds, like me.
Hmmm...maybe that's why my world is a little different...being of obviously
mixed race background makes others concentrate more on my appearance.
Thank goodness for boobs...due to the Neanderthal nature of mankind, I
always get help when I need
it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stanley W. Rogouski <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Stanley W. Rogouski
world.
Rudy Guiliani?
Bill Gates?
Howard Stern?
David Letterman?
Michael Eisner?
Jerry Seinfeld?
Margaret Thatcher?
The company that hired all blonds is interesting though.
Stanley W. Rogouski
I'm a Knicks fan
And with
Patrick Ewing
Jeff Van Gundy
and past luminaries like
Charles Oakley
Anthony Mason
and
Chris Dudly
I don't think you can accuse me of choosing my team for its good
looking players.
sharkfish
interesting, however.
Although, in everyday life, everyday companies, with normal,
everyday people...the way you look, ugly, beautiful, or in-
between...matters. Bill Gates certainly fits the 'intelligent
white male' look.
And I didn't say all the blondes the guy hired were beautiful.
Just that they were blonde.
Interesting that you would make that assumption. '-)
sharkfish
puffing up and down the court yesterday? He was always last to
make it to either end.
Sharkfish
In article <00a1ae82...@usw-ex0104-032.remarq.com>,
Stanley W. Rogouski <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>Speaking of basketball
>
>I'm a Knicks fan
>
>And with
>
>Patrick Ewing
>
>Jeff Van Gundy
>
>and past luminaries like
>
>Charles Oakley
>
>Anthony Mason
>
>and
>
>Chris Dudly
>
>I don't think you can accuse me of choosing my team for its good
>looking players.
>
Stanley W. Rogouski
uncovering of a Freudian slip on my part is actually a massive
Freudian slip on your part.
Being of Polish/German American decent, I can assure you my
family if full of overweight, unattractive blonds.
As to the question of looks in general.
I think that looks will sometimes help you but they will also
hurt you sometimes.
They're one factor among many.
For example, suppose that I were 6'5" tall instead of 5'11". I
suppose that this would get me jobs (give me a certain
authority) but also lose me jobs (intimidate people. The server
guys here are all under 5'10 so the Napolean complex seems to be
at work).
I don't know about looks. I'm probably better looking than
average but I'm also much WEIRDER than average. My misfit
personality has always cancelled out my more or less
traditionally acceptable appearance.
In article <0654eab4...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com>,
sharkfish <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>I think you are dodging the main point. Your point is
>interesting, however.
>
>Although, in everyday life, everyday companies, with normal,
>everyday people...the way you look, ugly, beautiful, or in-
>between...matters. Bill Gates certainly fits the 'intelligent
>white male' look.
>
>And I didn't say all the blondes the guy hired were beautiful.
>Just that they were blonde.
>
>Interesting that you would make that assumption. '-)
>
Stanley W. Rogouski
skills team over the 34th Street and 7th Ave goon squad.
Ewing should retire, but, in truth, how many fast 7 footers of
any age are out there?
6'3" point guards are plentiful but skilled big men are rare.
In article <0755adee...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com>,
sharkfish <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>and OLDER THAN DIRT! Did you notice Patrick Ewing huffing and
>puffing up and down the court yesterday? He was always last to
>make it to either end.
>
>Sharkfish
>
>
>In article <00a1ae82...@usw-ex0104-032.remarq.com>,
>Stanley W. Rogouski <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>>Speaking of basketball
>>
>>I'm a Knicks fan
>>
>>And with
>>
>>Patrick Ewing
>>
>>Jeff Van Gundy
>>
>>and past luminaries like
>>
>>Charles Oakley
>>
>>Anthony Mason
>>
>>and
>>
>>Chris Dudly
>>
>>I don't think you can accuse me of choosing my team for its
good
>>looking players.
>>
Kevin
Kevin
Absinthe
around the block a few times & I have yet to see an IT dept made
up of these beautiful people you describe. In fact, it tends to
be the opposite... the one place someone from Geekville can go &
acctually be measured by the work they do instead of thier
hairstyle or weight
no sig
--
Heather
Claire Miraglia
myself
likeable, and mirror the behavior of the interviewer.
Good strategy, perhaps you are more a chameleon than a sharkfish. Claire
"sharkfish" <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:12d32310...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com...
> Your company must be paying shit for this job. With the glut of
> entry level to 1 year of experience MCSE types in the market,
> you should have a better pool of candidates.
>
> I daresay your view of the candidates is probably very tainted
> by your prejudices.
>
> And get a new job soon, because your boss is going to make you
> train this new person, pay them less, then have them replace
> you. If you trust your boss, then by all means, stay and pick
> the one you can stand working with for 8 hours a day. From the
> sound of it, none of these people knows what they are doing, and
> you are going to have to teach them everything.
>
> This is why I get every job I interview for...I make myself
> likeable, and mirror the behavior of the interviewer. Because
> in the end, unless you do a lab test, you really won't know the
> candidate's knowledge or potential for the job. And no
> interviewer has ever made me do a lab test, yet.
>
> Sharkfish
>
>
Stanley W. Rogouski
In article <d6YT4.11622
$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Claire Miraglia" <
>===
>Good strategy, perhaps you are more a chameleon than a
sharkfish. Claire
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standout in an interview? All this stuff confuses me. I mean,
on the one hand, I want to participate in a fair contest, and on
the other hand, I want to win. I win more often when I
cheat...use the boobs, then surprise folks with my competence.
I don't mean to insult the technology field...it _is_ the most
fair and equal ground I've encountered so far...
Sharkfish
In article <15b267f0...@usw-ex0105-037.remarq.com>,
Absinthe <absinthe...@underwriters.com.invalid> wrote:
>But IT seems to be the exception to this rule. I have been
>around the block a few times & I have yet to see an IT dept made
>up of these beautiful people you describe. In fact, it tends to
>be the opposite... the one place someone from Geekville can go &
>acctually be measured by the work they do instead of thier
>hairstyle or weight
>
>
>no sig
>--
>Heather
Claire Miraglia
like Stanley expresses: Sometimes they can work against you. Ling (soft
G) is my FAVORITE character. Her tools, never work against her, but she got
no friends...accept Nell.
"sharkfish" <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:29af7c42...@usw-ex0104-032.remarq.com...
Claire Miraglia
depending on the circumstances, personalities involved and motives. I've
seen it happen both ways. They were hiring at a law firm I worked at a few
years back. The partner specified he wanted to hire a black woman, although
he did not specify how old she should be or how she should look. Turns out,
however, she was young and very attractive. Found out later through a
reliable source, that the partner's motives were less than noble, yet still
to her (the employee's) advantage. He had recently hired and was heavily
involved with a gung ho marketing consultant and hung on his every word.
She was hired at his suggestion, as a marketing strategy to give the firm a
"diversified look". And that is just what is was a "look". She later told
me that the consultant was lewdly hitting on her every chance he got and
that she was uncomfortable with it. She never did anything about, but he
was later fired as his strategies did nothing to increase business.
Regarding sexual harrasment: These days lawyers (especially those who
practice Labor & Employment law) don't pull that shit as they are well aware
of the possible consequences, but evidently some marketing consultants
haven't gotten the word.
"Stanley W. Rogouski" <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:02ab9926...@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com...
Claire Miraglia
and it's tough to discipline yourself with no one watching over and who the
hell are you going to show your boobs to there? Claire
"sharkfish" <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
sharkfish
And yes, my work ethic is suffering a bit.
Sharkfish
In article <LpZT4.11680
$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Claire Miraglia"
<cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>Doesn't sound like it sucks for you. I hated working from
home...too lonely
>and it's tough to discipline yourself with no one watching over
and who the
>hell are you going to show your boobs to there? Claire
>"sharkfish" <minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in
message
>news:1989c6cc...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com...
>> Whatever!
>>
>> I can't imagine why you guys (Stan and Absinthe) didn't take
>> that as a joke (although it's true). I try my best not to use
>> others, except to learn from them.
>>
>> Of course, the boob guys didn't answer my post. They are
trying
>> to avoid the reality by making a joke about what makes them
feel
>> uncomfortable--women with boob power. Allie McBeal's 'Ling'
First Reminder
with about 10% of the picture area left above your head.
Tom MacIntyre
<minnow31...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Men will be men. Use them, take what they have, then toss them
>aside.
>
>A client of mine showed me her 'trophies'...two pictures of
>dead, old white men that left her over a $1 million each in
>insurance money.
>
>Sharkfish
>
Something to be proud of, like beating on your girlfriend?...eye of
the beholder...:-))
Tom
>
>In article <01b68f94...@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>,
>Absinthe <absinthe...@underwriters.com.invalid> wrote:
>>Its all sad. I never expected to see so many "Hire the hot
>>babe" posts... 1, yeah, but not as many as there are.
>>
>>
>>no sig
>>--
KC5MD
KC5MD
Sounds like he's getting wood reading the letter and may be jealeous that he's
not the one getting blown,(Homosexual tendencies).
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
We used to shoot the newscasters a bit tighter (from mid-chest, like a
sculpted bust), with about the same headroom, in TV news; sometimes a
bit looser or tighter, depending on the situation.
Tom
Stanley W. Rogouski
Stanley W. Rogouski
Hey kc, better get Claire to mail you the pictures. I don't
think that WebTV you're using handles Jpegs.
Then I see your e-mail address.
BWAHAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAWAAAHAAHAAAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In article <20000515182658...@ng-xg1.aol.com>,
kc...@aol.com (KC5MD) wrote:
>Just E-Mail a jpeg of your boobs.. :P
>
>
sharkfish
KC5MD <kc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000515182658...@ng-xg1.aol.com...
Mike Baker
So have we selected "A" yet ?????
Claire Miraglia <cmd...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:rs1U4.11937$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> Vedy Funny, Vedy Funny.....NO JPEGS FOR YOU!!!
Absinthe
--
Heather
--
Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow - Eric S. Raymond
http://members.xoom.com/Absinthe_Gre
~~~~~~~
"Stanley W. Rogouski" <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:00b45ce5...@usw-ex0103-019.remarq.com...
> You wear your hair in a mullet don't you?
>
> In article <20000515183342...@ng-xg1.aol.com>,
> kc...@aol.com (KC5MD) wrote:
> >What I wan't to know is: Is Stan a Pitcher or a Catcher?
> >
> >Sounds like he's getting wood reading the letter and may be
> jealeous that he's
> >not the one getting blown,(Homosexual tendencies).
> >
> >
>
>
Stanley W. Rogouski
In article <8fqe2e$mst$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Absinthe"
<chronic_bliss@OHNO!! NOTANOTHERhotmail.com> wrote:
>Ah... the great Mullet strikes again!
>
>--
>
>Heather
* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
Claire Miraglia
this stuff anyway? Claire
"First Reminder" <firstr...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000515172708...@ng-cc1.aol.com...
Tom MacIntyre
<stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>Hmm. I was going to make some kind of joke like
>
>Hey kc, better get Claire to mail you the pictures. I don't
>think that WebTV you're using handles Jpegs.
>
>Then I see your e-mail address.
>
>kc...@aol.com
>
>BWAHAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAWAAAHAAHAAAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
I still don't get all of the AOL jokes, never having seen the system
personally. I have figured out that it's perceived by some to be
inferior...
Tom
>
>In article <20000515182658...@ng-xg1.aol.com>,
>kc...@aol.com (KC5MD) wrote:
>>Just E-Mail a jpeg of your boobs.. :P
>>
>>
>
>
Claire Miraglia
"KC5MD" <kc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000515182658...@ng-xg1.aol.com...
Melody
all that proprietary garbage.
and not a single URL they use keywords.
"Tom MacIntyre" <tmac...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3920a179...@news.wolf...
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 17:23:51 -0700, Stanley W. Rogouski
> <stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Hmm. I was going to make some kind of joke like
> >
> >Hey kc, better get Claire to mail you the pictures. I don't
> >think that WebTV you're using handles Jpegs.
> >
> >Then I see your e-mail address.
> >
> >kc...@aol.com
> >
> >BWAHAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAWAAAHAAHAAAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
>
> I still don't get all of the AOL jokes, never having seen the system
> personally. I have figured out that it's perceived by some to be
> inferior...
>
> Tom
>
> >
> >In article <20000515182658...@ng-xg1.aol.com>,
> >kc...@aol.com (KC5MD) wrote:
> >>Just E-Mail a jpeg of your boobs.. :P
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Bubba
You got to hire C, since he'll be obedient and loyal and marginally
competent. Have D kidnap A, and hold her hostage in B's basement where
you can use her for sexual favors whenever you have a hard time
getting a date, however.
Best of luck.
Bubba
Bubba
Martyn Harrison
MacIntyre) wrote:
>On Mon, 15 May 2000 17:23:51 -0700, Stanley W. Rogouski
><stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hmm. I was going to make some kind of joke like
>>
>>Hey kc, better get Claire to mail you the pictures. I don't
>>think that WebTV you're using handles Jpegs.
>>
>>Then I see your e-mail address.
>>
>>kc...@aol.com
>>
>>BWAHAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAWAAAHAAHAAAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
>I still don't get all of the AOL jokes, never having seen the system
>personally. I have figured out that it's perceived by some to be
>inferior...
Once upon a time, usenet was a polite and informative experience. Then
they brought in *.edus so that they would learn to be polite and to be
informed, and you can guess what happened. A bit later, a company
called aol started opening up the web to the general public, as a sort
of replacement for BBSs.
The new brood were typified by a fake poster called B1...@aOL.coM who
would post his experiences in trying to find "pron" or whatever. At
the time, posting with an aol address was "unwise" since even Albert
Einstein would have had no respect from the rest of the posters if he
had used an aol account - people generally didn't even bother reading
their posts and the killfile was made virtually universal by the end
of the period. Many people probably believe that it stands for
"Assholes On Line".
Since then we have seen the advent of WebTV. I dunno what this is,
exactly, but I guess some sort of internet on your television set. The
advantage to such a device is that the old filtering technique, that
is make the newsgroups so difficult to get at means that the clumsiest
and stupidest posters are unable to successfully send messages and so
do not cause a problem, this advantage is no longer keeping them away
from our groups.
Some people have *.webtv set up in their killfilters. Not that there
are no good posters on webtv, merely that the few are not worth
wading through posts from the many to read.
Personally, I don't have a killfile, but if I was setting up an
account for my mother, I would put *.aol and *.webtv into the filters.
;)
KC5MD
There are more Polish jokes going around then there are tall black men selling
sneakers.
Anyway, If you close your eyes real tight an asshole on AOL looks exactly like
an asshole on any other bogus, fly by-night, wanna be, won't be around too much
longer never heard of it anyway ISP,(ntlworld.com?????).
I've tried em all and they all do the same shit..
Besides my kids love it,(Oh you don't have kids...what a shame...too bad), you
should get away from the computer every so often and try dating someone from
the opposite sex for a change of pace.
Stanley W. Rogouski
what he says because he's Polish.
Martyn Harrison a Polish name? Huh? Don't you even know how to
use the AOL newsreader? I thought it was idiot proof.
But let's look at your post:
1.) One ethnic slur
2.) One borderline racial slur
3.) A whole paragraph full of inane homophobic remarks.
Completely bigoted, low IQ idiocy.
This completes our AO-HELL demonstration for today.
Just as a sidenote. I honestly don't care what ISP you use. But
you CAN set up more than one ISP on one computer. Get somebody
to show you how to do it if you can't figure it out. If the $20
a month is too much for you try one of the free ISPs.
And lose that mullet.
Tom MacIntyre
<stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>You replied to Martyn Harrison telling him that he should watch
>what he says because he's Polish.
>
>Martyn Harrison a Polish name? Huh? Don't you even know how to
>use the AOL newsreader? I thought it was idiot proof.
>
>But let's look at your post:
>
>1.) One ethnic slur
>
>2.) One borderline racial slur
>
>3.) A whole paragraph full of inane homophobic remarks.
>
>Completely bigoted, low IQ idiocy.
>
>This completes our AO-HELL demonstration for today.
>
>Just as a sidenote. I honestly don't care what ISP you use. But
>you CAN set up more than one ISP on one computer. Get somebody
>to show you how to do it if you can't figure it out. If the $20
>a month is too much for you try one of the free ISPs.
>
>And lose that mullet.
Well, now that I know more about the disdain which is felt for
AOL'ers...what is a mullet? Some sort of hairdo, I think someone
mentioned?
Tom
Stanley W. Rogouski
this post might have a mullet but he might also have a jar-head
cut or male pattern baldness. Perhaps I shouldn't insult the
good name of mullet by automatically coupling him with it. There
are good people on AOL and there are good people with mullets.
In article <3921b7de...@news.wolf>,
Melody
"Bubba" <Donte...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3920e933.40338369@news...
Mike Baker
Melody <metal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:uXkU4.13648$XO1.7...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Stanley W. Rogouski
Americanus Moranimus Maximus. How could I possibly add to the
entertainment he's already provided?
Except to say the Holy Word:
Mullet.
In article <20000516220053...@ng-xg1.aol.com>,
kc...@aol.com (KC5MD) wrote:
>Oh stop, you'll make me cry.
>
>Wow a Canadian that can speak English, thats rare.
>
>Can't deceide to speak the Queens English, (Yeah faggots love
Queens), or
>French,(faggots for sure)
>
>Voulez vous Douchebag?
>
>Your commentary was so brilliantly written, I bet your mommy
is real proud of
>how well you turned out.
>
>Bet you paid a whole bunch for that doublewide didn't you Hoss?
>
>I know why you have multiple ISP's on your machine so you can
download twice as
>much Kiddy porn...your mommy must be real proud.
>
>By the way a Mullet is a fish you MORON.
>(Moron has a lower IQ than an Idiot in case you were unsure).
>
>
>Suey...look Tommy dropped the soap again.
Stanley W. Rogouski
An 18 year old guy sleeping with a 13 year old girl.
Wouldn't you get arrested for filming this today?
In article <80oU4.69634$fV.4294137@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Melody"
<metal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Again I believe you meant Stanley here, but being a consumer of
>Literature I doubt he is into Kiddie Porn. Although I am sure
there are
>experts lurking in a near by newsgroup.
Claire Miraglia
date, however"
In that case she'll be there for the rest of his life.
Claire Miraglia
of us got all over his case. I would like to know, however. I would also
like to know how whomever he chooses works out.
"Mike Baker" <bake...@bigriver.net> wrote in message
news:3921...@news.isdn.net...
> So who'd we hire ??? Who? Who? Who?
>
> Melody <metal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:uXkU4.13648$XO1.7...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > This is probably "c" posting his own vote.
> >
> >
KC5MD
Melody
> Oh stop, you'll make me cry.
>
The Canadian is not the one who flamed you...........
>
> Can't decide to speak the Queens English, (Yeah faggots love Queens), or
> French,(faggots for sure)
>
> Voulez vous Douchebag?
This is irrelevant because The AMERICAN who flamed you lives in New York and
most definitely does not speak the queens English nor do any of us for that
matter.
The French are rude..........so who cares about them.
>
> Your commentary was so brilliantly written, I bet your mommy is real
proud of
> how well you turned out.
Again you have the wrong person...........maturity is not a problem in Tom's
case. However, it appears to be so in yours.
>
> Bet you paid a whole bunch for that doublewide didn't you Hoss?
I doubt very much Tom lives in a trailer, but he might.
>
> I know why you have multiple ISP's on your machine so you can download
twice as
> much Kiddy porn...your mommy must be real proud.
Again I believe you meant Stanley here, but being a consumer of
Literature I doubt he is into Kiddie Porn. Although I am sure there are
experts lurking in a near by newsgroup.
>
> By the way a Mullet is a fish you MORON.
> (Moron has a lower IQ than an Idiot in case you were unsure).
A Mullet maybe a fish, I dunno. And this was the only question Tom asked.
However, and I am reaching considering the intelligence of you. Flaming the
wrong person and calling them a moron for asking for clarification to a
topic that has yet to be adequately defined gives you an even lower IQ than
a Moron. In fact this terminology would in fact be a complement when applied
to you.
>Suey...look Tommy dropped the soap again.
And once again here I believe the faggot reference was directed to Stanley
who had baited you on this very topic.
All I can say is you need to learn to properly address your missives to the
appropriate thread and at least learn to read and comprehend the thread
prior to hitting the send button in your newsreader.
This has been your AO-HELL tutorial for this afternoon.....If you had any I
would say class dismissed.
-v-
"KC5MD" <kc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000516220053...@ng-xg1.aol.com...
> Oh stop, you'll make me cry.
>
>
> French,(faggots for sure)
>
> Voulez vous Douchebag?
>
proud of
> how well you turned out.
>
>
twice as
> much Kiddy porn...your mommy must be real proud.
>
> (Moron has a lower IQ than an Idiot in case you were unsure).
>
>
>
--
-v-
Tom MacIntyre
>Oh stop, you'll make me cry.
>
>Wow a Canadian that can speak English, thats rare.
>
>Can't deceide to speak the Queens English, (Yeah faggots love Queens), or
>French,(faggots for sure)
>
>Voulez vous Douchebag?
>
>Your commentary was so brilliantly written, I bet your mommy is real proud of
>how well you turned out.
>
>Bet you paid a whole bunch for that doublewide didn't you Hoss?
>
>I know why you have multiple ISP's on your machine so you can download twice as
>much Kiddy porn...your mommy must be real proud.
>
>By the way a Mullet is a fish you MORON.
>(Moron has a lower IQ than an Idiot in case you were unsure).
>
>
>Suey...look Tommy dropped the soap again.
>
>
There was nothing in any of my posts that warrants this from you. I
was simply asking questions for my own edification. I knew that the
word mullet referred to a fish, because I looked it up in the
dictionary; I thought there may be another more current meaning. I
defy you to point out one statement of mine in this thread which any
intelligent person would see as an attack against you. I will admit to
having not defended you either, but you seem quite capable of
defending yourself, even if it's sometimes against the wrong person.
:-)
Tom
>
>
Tom MacIntyre
<metal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Bet you paid a whole bunch for that doublewide didn't you Hoss?
>
>I doubt very much Tom lives in a trailer, but he might.
>>
Thanks for the defense, Melody...actually, the bank took the
trailer...:-))
Tom
Tom MacIntyre
<stanNO...@rogouski.com.invalid> wrote:
>Is Romeo and Juliet kiddie porn?
>
>An 18 year old guy sleeping with a 13 year old girl.
>
>Wouldn't you get arrested for filming this today?
I bet Adam and Eve weren't very old either...or were they?
Tom
>
>In article <80oU4.69634$fV.4294137@bgtnsc05-
>news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Melody"
><metal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>Again I believe you meant Stanley here, but being a consumer of
>>Literature I doubt he is into Kiddie Porn. Although I am sure
>there are
>>experts lurking in a near by newsgroup.
>