"No hiding place for web sex fiends targeting kids"
Cub Reporter
By Sarah Swain
Evening Times, UK: 30 October 2009
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533587.0.no_hiding_place_for_web_sex_fiends_targeting_kids.php
[ http://tinyurl.com/ylbljm5 ]
POLICE have warned there will be no hiding place for internet
paedophiles after launching a new crackdown on the sex fiends.
Operation Alba - set up in the wake of Scotland's worst child abuse
case - will see officers adopting a more "pro-active" approach in a
bid to catch paedophiles at the earliest opportunity.
Assistant Chief Constable Iain Livingstone, of Lothian and Borders
Police, unveiled the initiative hours after paedophile ringleaders
Neil Strachan and James Rennie were given life terms for child
pornography and abuse crimes, as reported in last night's Evening
Times.
Mr Livingstone said: "We are turning a corner in dealing with this
kind of crime in Scotland and we will be pro-active in our approach.
"Those who attack and abuse our children think they can disguise their
tracks. However, we will use the very technology they exploit to catch
them.
"Operation Alba will use intelligence and investigation techniques,
including existing and emerging technology, to detect those involved
in online child abuse and bring them to justice.
"We are utilising the most up-to-date technology to identify and
arrest individuals who attack and abuse vulnerable children. Those who
do so will, like Rennie and Strachan, rightly face lengthy prison
sentences."
The operation will involve police taking a more pro-active approach to
tracking down offenders, rather than depending on leads to emerge by
chance or from other lines of inquiry.
Operation Alba has stemmed in part from the work carried out in
relation to Operation Algebra, which tracked down Strachan, Rennie and
six other members of the gang.
The police officer in charge of that inquiry has called on internet
service providers to ban convicted paedophiles from the web.
Detective Superintendent Allan Jones, the head of major crime at
Lothian and Borders Police, said technology must be developed to
create personal identities for everyone that will allow police to
identify offenders whenever they log on to the internet, in order to
prevent sexual exploitation of minors.
He said: "My personal view is that people who have been observed
electronically exchanging this type of imagery should, after
appropriate investigation and punishment by the police and other
authorities, have their internet service provision withdrawn.
"This is because there can be no guarantee that having been punished,
they are not going to go back and do it again."
Rennie had been found guilty after a lengthy trial earlier this year
of molesting a young boy over more than four years beginning when the
victim was aged just three months.
HIV-positive Strachan had been convicted at the same trial of the
attempted rape of an 18-month-old boy and sexually abusing a boy aged
six.
Det Supt Jones said the case was "easily the worst" he had seen in 28
years in the police.
[...]
Nigel Oldfield
including existing and emerging technology, to detect those involved
in online child abuse and bring them to justice.
Hehehe, the numpty took his PC in for repair.
WM
Anon
> By Sarah Swain
>
> Evening Times, UK: 30 October 2009
> http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533587.0.no_hiding_place_for_web_sex_fiends_targeting_kids.php
> [ http://tinyurl.com/ylbljm5 ]
>
> POLICE have warned there will be no hiding place for internet
> paedophiles after launching a new crackdown on the sex fiends.
No hiding place for paedophiles would be nice. But when did the
police start warning prople of their abilities and tactics? If it
was my job to bring these perverts down, then I would not be warning
them of my great tracing abilities. Have they not heard of the term,
'went black' or 'underground'? Their warning is empty and they are
putting no one, including perverts, in fear.
Nigel Oldfield
> > No hiding place for web sex fiends targeting kids
> > By Sarah Swain
>
> > Evening Times, UK: 30 October 2009
> > [http://tinyurl.com/ylbljm5]
>
> > POLICE have warned there will be no hiding place for internet
> > paedophiles after launching a new crackdown on the sex fiends.
>
> No hiding place for paedophiles would be nice. But when did the
> police start warning prople of their abilities and tactics? If it
> was my job to bring these perverts down, then I would not be warning
> them of my great tracing abilities. Have they not heard of the term,
> 'went black' or 'underground'? Their warning is empty and they are
> putting no one, including perverts, in fear.
They do not wish to catch, they wish to deter (amongst other things).
Plus, few techniques are secret anymore.
WM
Baal
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Anon wrote in alt.censorship on Sat October 31 2009 20:09 in Message-ID:
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>> No hiding place for web sex fiends targeting kids
>> By Sarah Swain
>>
>> Evening Times, UK: 30 October 2009
>>
>> http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2533587.0.no_hiding_place_for_web_sex_fiends_targeting_kids.php
>> [ http://tinyurl.com/ylbljm5 ]
>>
>> POLICE have warned there will be no hiding place for internet
>> paedophiles after launching a new crackdown on the sex fiends.
>
> No hiding place for paedophiles would be nice.
<Sigh> You can't separate-out one particular group, however repulsive you
may view them -- either *everyone* has a hiding place, or no one does. Any
methods that can be used to unmask paedophiles can also be used against
other groups such as political enemies, e.g. Falun Gong in the case of
China.
> But when did the police start warning prople of their abilities and
> tactics?
They don't, as a rule. If anything, they usually try to make themselves
appear to be more capable than they really are.
> If it was my job to bring these perverts down, then I would not be
> warning them of my great tracing abilities.
This done in the name of 'deterrence' -- an outmoded concept that never has,
and never will, work. Just think back to the 18th century, when public
hangings were all the rage. There were more than 200 capital crimes in the
UK at the time, including (if memory serves) 'injuring Westminster bridge.'
Pickpockets worked the crowds at these public hangings; often those being
hung were pickpockets who had earlier been tried and sentenced to hang.
> Have they not heard of the term, 'went black' or 'underground'?
I'm sure they've heard of the terms, they just don't care. Traditionally,
child pornography rings have been penetrated as the result of a member
having being apprehended for something other than to do with the ring's
activities.
The existence of the ring is either given-up by the suspect as the result
of a plea-bargain, or is otherwise discovered by a search of the perp's
premises and/or computer. The police then use this information to infiltrate
the ring, collect data on the participants for an extended period of time,
then swoop down and bust the participants.
> Their warning is empty and they are putting no one, including perverts,
> in fear.
It's simple public-relations puffery, that's all. Par for the course.
Baal <Ba...@Usenet.org>
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noauth
> <Sigh> You can't separate-out one particular group, however repulsive you
> may view them -- either *everyone* has a hiding place, or no one does. Any
> methods that can be used to unmask paedophiles can also be used against
> other groups such as political enemies, e.g. Falun Gong in the case of
> China.
Typical pedofuck tactics... again. When normal folk throw the cold
hard truth of your abhorrent existence in your face, flail your
arms about and try to align yourself with some "oppressed" class of
people.
You're pathetic.
The truth is, pedofuck, that you're less than human. Society
despises you beyond all others. Even the lowlife criminal element
on this planet would rather see you gutted and left for dead than
anything else.
> I'm sure they've heard of the terms, they just don't care. Traditionally,
> child pornography rings have been penetrated as the result of a member
> having being apprehended for something other than to do with the ring's
> activities.
Tell that to Yardturd's cronies.
*snicker*
Baal
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noauth wrote in alt.censorship on Sun November 1 2009 10:45 in Message-ID:
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> Baal wrote:
>
>> <Sigh> You can't separate-out one particular group, however repulsive
>> you may view them -- either *everyone* has a hiding place, or no one
>> does. Any methods that can be used to unmask paedophiles can also be
>> used against other groups such as political enemies, e.g. Falun Gong in
>> the case of China.
>
> Typical pedofuck tactics... again. When normal folk throw the cold
> hard truth of your abhorrent existence in your face, flail your
> arms about and try to align yourself with some "oppressed" class of
> people.
Cutting-and-pasting again, I see. You use this block of text so frequently,
do you have it assigned to a hotkey in your editor?
FWIW, I'm not trying to align (or compare) paedophiles with some oppressed
class of people. I was simply referring to the fact that there exists at
present no method of allowing anonymity for everyone *except* one certain
class (or group) of people -- like it or lump it, those are the facts.
[snip]
>> I'm sure they've heard of the terms, they just don't care.
>> Traditionally, child pornography rings have been penetrated as the
>> result of a member having being apprehended for something other than to
>> do with the ring's activities.
>
> Tell that to Yardturd's cronies.
Most of Yardbird's cronies are still at large; depending on which affidavit
you believe, upwards of one-half to two-thirds of them are still at large.
Baal <Ba...@Usenet.org>
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save children -- quality information [given to law-enforcement] does.
-- ThePsyko
If he [Psyko] doesn't hand over the shitbags [to me] than I have no use for
him.
-- Bob&Carole quoted in Message-ID:
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-- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD
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Nigel Oldfield
Oooh, get you.
WM
George Orwell
> Cutting-and-pasting again,
What can I say... you nasty ass pedofucks are consistent and
predictable. You keep spewing the same pedofuck bullshit and I'll
keep throwing it back in your face. Sorry about your luck. Sucks to
be you.
> FWIW, I'm not trying to align (or compare) paedophiles with some oppressed
Sure you are pedofuck. Even if you're too stump stupid to realize
it. Every single time someone points out how you filthy bastards
are being dealt with the very first thing you do is wet your pants
and start whining about "Falun Gong" or some such bullshit. Freedom
of speech... "art" collecting... you pedofucks are so desperate to
legitimize yourselves you can't help it. It's like a gag reflex for
you scumbags.
> Most of Yardbird's cronies are still at large;
Nope. And even the ones who haven't been caught *yet* are fucked.
Being a self-hating asshole cowering in your room waiting for the
moment when that knock at the door comes isn't exactly a text book
version of "freedom", now is it pedofuck?
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