Two Presidents in One!
Ubiquitous
make a plea for a free flow of information, saying it makes societies stronger
and holds political leaders accountable. People in positions of power may
bristle at criticism, he said, but open criticism 'makes our democracy
stronger, and it makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear
opinions that I don't want to hear.' "
--The Wall Street Journal, Nov. 16
� "Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of mostly
liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith
Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New
York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about [Fox News
Channel], according to people briefed on the conversation."
--New York Times, Oct. 23
Anlatt the Builder
> • "Mr. Obama used the forum at Shanghai's Museum of Science and Technology to
I don't understand. Did Obama use the power of the state - in a way
similar to what China does - to silence Fox news? Has he had Fox news
commentators arrested? Has his administration censored Fox news in any
way?
No. He "vented." Big deal.
Fox news misleads. They whip up hatred. They promulgate falsehoods.
You see the Hannity coverage with the "accidental" months-old footage
used to make an anti-health-care-reform protest look larger than it
was? That's the level on which they conduct themselves.
You can be completely and utterly in support of free speech and
dissenting opinions and still think that Fox news is bad for the
country.
Not Sure
> On Nov 17, 2:38 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > • "Mr. Obama used the forum at Shanghai's Museum of Science and Technology to
> > make a plea for a free flow of information, saying it makes societies stronger
> > and holds political leaders accountable. People in positions of power may
> > bristle at criticism, he said, but open criticism 'makes our democracy
> > stronger, and it makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear
> > opinions that I don't want to hear.' "
> > --The Wall Street Journal, Nov. 16
>
> > • "Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of mostly
> > liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith
> > Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New
> > York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about [Fox News
> > Channel], according to people briefed on the conversation."
> > --New York Times, Oct. 23
>
> I don't understand. Did Obama use the power of the state - in a way
> similar to what China does - to silence Fox news? Has he had Fox news
> commentators arrested? Has his administration censored Fox news in any
> way?
>
> No. He "vented." Big deal.
>
> Fox news misleads.
No they don't. Fox News doesn't follow the Whorship ObamaTM train that
the rest of the dipshit media operate under. That's their real crime
and that's the reason Obama acts like a spoiled child by using his
bully pulpit to go after the one news channel that doesn't kowtow to
him 24/7.
TBerk
alt.censorship, alt.free-speech.moderated.
On Nov 17, 2:38 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
<snip>
>... and it makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear
> opinions that I don't want to hear.' "
> --The Wall Street Journal, Nov. 16
>
<snip>
>v...Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about [Fox News
> Channel], according to people briefed on the conversation."
> --New York Times, Oct. 23
So.... he he bitched about Fox's coverage of him then went on to say
people should here some things they don't want to hear.
Sounds consistent. I don't think he (Mr. Obama) is perfect nor will
always step correctly. Yet despite his faults, given the chance, how
would any of us do in the job? Don't answer me directly, think about
it thruthfully to yourself.
Being President isn't a job that will provide with all the answers nor
will it make everybody happy all the time.
Would it be better to divide the Country by infighting over ever
decreasing spoils (imaging two kids breaking their toys to keep the
other kid from playing with them) or should we , if begrudgingly, meet
in the middle and get on with doing some good.
If you're an American, then he's your President. Support yourself.
berk
Anlatt the Builder
Check the Hannity footage. Multiply by 100. Stop making excuses.
> They whip up hatred. They promulgate falsehoods.
>
>
>
> > You see the Hannity coverage with the "accidental" months-old footage
> > used to make an anti-health-care-reform protest look larger than it
> > was? That's the level on which they conduct themselves.
>
> > You can be completely and utterly in support of free speech and
> > dissenting opinions and still think that Fox news is bad for the
> > country.- Hide quoted text -
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trotsky
> On Nov 17, 11:32 am, Anlatt the Builder <tirh...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 17, 2:38 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>>> make a plea for a free flow of information, saying it makes societies stronger
>>> and holds political leaders accountable. People in positions of power may
>>> bristle at criticism, he said, but open criticism 'makes our democracy
>>> stronger, and it makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear
>>> opinions that I don't want to hear.' "
>>> --The Wall Street Journal, Nov. 16
>>> liberal columnists and commentators, including Rachel Maddow and Keith
>>> Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New
>>> York Times, Mr. Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about [Fox News
>>> Channel], according to people briefed on the conversation."
>>> --New York Times, Oct. 23
>> I don't understand. Did Obama use the power of the state - in a way
>> similar to what China does - to silence Fox news? Has he had Fox news
>> commentators arrested? Has his administration censored Fox news in any
>> way?
>>
>> No. He "vented." Big deal.
>>
>> Fox news misleads.
>
> They whip up hatred. They promulgate falsehoods.
Agreed.