Cell phone dead zones - KSTP - MN
D - Z
http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109675/
A relative of mine told me about this news story. I wish I would have
known about it in time to submit some of my own dead spots, but from the
looks of the very, very long list for Verizon, either KSTP used
deadcellzones or this newsgroup, as well as comments from users. It
looks like many of the locations I've noticed myself are in the list.
So, now at least I know I'm not completely crazy and out of line for
bitching so much! It looks like there are plenty of other people
bitching also.
It is sure interesting to see the different views. Users expect
coverage everywhere VZW claims on their map. Users don't differentiate
between VZW and Extended coverage, they just want their phone to work.
While VZW will put an excuse next to most of the problems that say,
"well, that's not our network, we can't do anything about it"!
There is even a comment that they are working to fix the problems in Elk
River. Good luck! Are they finally planning on buying Cell2000 or
Qwest? That's the only way I know they can fix any problems there.
Just more proof that either they don't care about MN, or VZW is clueless
about the future. This area has been one of the fastest growing regions
for the past couple of years, and they are now finally thinking about
offering service there? That doesn't seem right, especially since it's
a suburb of Minneapolis.
They also have comments from the other companies, but I haven't had a
chance to review them all yet.
Anybody know how many credit minutes for dropped calls a person has to
accumulate before they will think about filling a hole? Tonight the
lady told me I was out of my coverage area in Plymouth, there are no
towers in this town. Well, I know there aren't a lot, but I also know
there are 2.
D
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Hopper
"D - Z" <spam...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:vjjc34f...@corp.supernews.com...
> http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109667/
> http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109675/
>
> It is sure interesting to see the different views. Users expect
> coverage everywhere VZW claims on their map. Users don't differentiate
> between VZW and Extended coverage, they just want their phone to work.
> While VZW will put an excuse next to most of the problems that say,
> "well, that's not our network, we can't do anything about it"!
You make an excellent point. Without extended network coverage, Verizon's
plans would be worthless.
Hopper
Larry
>http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109667/
>http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109675/
>
Thanks for the pointer....WOW, VZW, that's quite a LIST!
I guess the complimentary phones at KSTP are not gonna be
delivered....(c;
Hmm...Nextel's list isn't half as long. Guess we'll hear the usual
excuse about how many more customers Verizon has is the
reason....zzzzZZZZ...
Larry
Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
Larry
blocked.....
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Cell phone dead zones - Verizon
Updated: 07-25-2003 08:19:07 AM
Below are the cell phone dead zones sent to Eyewitness News by Verizon
customers. The zones are listed by city and region.
CAMBRIDGE/NORTH BRANCH
North Branch; Cambridge on Hwy 95; Co. Rd. 2
North Branch west of 35W to Cambridge
Cambridge
Cambridge
Hwy 95 Cambridge to Princeton
Cambridge-along 65 to 237th Ave
Cambridge
through Cambridge on Hwy 65
Zimmerman to Cambridge to St. Francis
ELK RIVER
Elk River
Elk River
Hwy 169 through Elk River
Hwy 169 & 10; Elk River to Princeton
Elk River
Elk River
Elk River
between Elk River & Zimmerman
Hwy 169 between Elk River & Zimmerman
AITKIN
Aikin
Aikin & Fertile
Aikin & Fertile
south of Aitkin
Aitkin, MN
Aitkin, MN
AIRPORT
Lindberg Terminal Gate C15 through Gate C27
Mpls. Airport -Conc. A/B
ST.PAUL
St. Paul
St.Thomas College-St.Paul
Grand Ave from 35E to Lexington
St.Paul on Grand Ave.
William Mitchell College of Law
SOUTH ST PAUL
South St. Paul on Concord St S.
WEST ST PAUL
West St. Paul
West St. Paul
West St.Paul on Smith Ave.
West St.Paul on Ruby Dr.
West St.Paul between Charlton Ave. & Delaware Rd.; Hwy 110; Marie
Ave and Wentworth Ave
West St. Paul in the Cherokee Heights area
West St.Paul; Mendota Heights north of Hwy 110 on Dodd Rd. & Delaware
Ave.
Charlton St.; near airport
MINNEAPOLIS
Minneapolis
Minneapolis
34th & Colfax
near 32nd &30th Ave So.
Sunset Blvd. & Drew Ave. by Lake & France
north side of Lake of the Isles
Logan Ave. S.
31st & Ulysses St
37th & Stinson
Emerson & Lowry
Lowry Strip
Lowry Ave. from Lyndale to Wirth Memorial Pkwy.
PLYMOUTH
Co. 24 & Hwy 101
38th Ave.N.
Hwy. 101 &Co. Rd 24
47th Ave.N.
Schmitt Lake Rd & northwest
Co. Rd 9 & Northwest Blvd.
WISCONSIN
I-94 at Menomenie & Wisconsin Dells
Siren
Danbury,WI
Star Prairie; parts of New Richmond & Hudson; St. Croix Falls;
Osceola; Grantsburg; Siren; Somerset
Cable & Bayfield
Eau Claire to Wisconsin Dells; north of
Hudson
Hudson; Co. Rd. V to New Richmond
Hwy 35 between Hudson & River Falls
Woodville
Osceola
Hudson
Amery to Richmond; Osceola
Danbury
from south of Hudson to Taylors Falls
Lexington on Hwy 96 near Oseola
Webster to Danbury
MARINE ON ST. CROIX/ST.CROIX FALLS, WISCONSIN
St. Croix Falls, WI
St.Croix Falls to Taylors Falls along WI Hwy 35 or along MN 95
Marine on St. Croix on hill
St.Croix
Hwy 8 between St. Croix Falls
Marine on St.Croix
Marine on St.Croix
Marine on St.Croix
Star Prairie; WI Hwy 65 from Polk St.Croix Co line to Polk Co Hwy K
I-94 & Hwy 12
COKATO
southwest of Cokato
south of Cokato on Co.3
FOREST LAKE
Forest Lake
35E & Forest Lake
Forest Lake at Hwy 97 & Ideal Ave.
Forest Lake on Lexington Ave. & Co. Rd 18; Isle
south of Forest Lake in Columbus Twp
Washington Co. on 170th St. & Hwy 61
STACY
west of the Stacy exit off I35
I-35 near Stacy
ISANTI
Isanti
Hwy 65 N near Isanti and Kanabec Co
west of Hwy 65 on Co.rd.5
RED WING
Red Wing
Hwy 61 S between Hwy 316 & Red Wing
316 to Red Wing
Red Wing
Red Wing
ROGERS
Hwy. 101 in Rogers
between Rogers & Loretto; Medina along Corcoran & Co. Rd 19
STILLWATER
Gandia & Hwy. 95 to Stillwater
Hwys 35 & 64; Stillwater to Somerset
Stillwater
Stillwater
Red Wing; Hwy 64 between Motley & Akley
BLOOMINGTON
110th & France Ave.
Upton Circle
Bloomington at 102nd between Portland & Lyndale
France between 84th & 90th St
102nd between Portland & Lyndale
107th & France Ave.; Hwy 200 between Longville & Walker
80th & France
HASTINGS
Hastings near Sherman Way
Hwy316 S. of Hastings to hwy 61
Hastings
south of Hastings
MONTICELLO/CLEARWATER
I-94 between Monticello & Clearwater
ST.FRANCIS
Wyoming to St.Fancis
St. Farancis
Wyoming to St.Fancis
Hwy 47 in St. Francis
ALBERTVILLE/ST.MICHAEL
I-94 near Albertville
Otsego; Albertville; St.Michael
MANKATO
Mankato; Hwy 169 from Belle Plaine to St.Peter; from St.Peter to
Mankato
Hwy 169 near Mankatol; North Mankato
ZIMMERMAN
Zimmerman
GREATER MINNESOTA
Hutchinson
Hwy 5 from Green Isle to Arlington
Gaylord; Hwy. 19 from New Prague to Henderson
Howard lake
Howard lake
Pierz; Brainerd; Milaca
Plato
Spicer; New London area
Richmond
east of Mille Lacs Lk; Hwy 47 between Isle & Elmo
Lonsdale
Hillman, by Hwy 169
Brainerd; Pequot Lakes to Alexandria
Lindstrom
Crosby; Ironton; Deerwood; Cuyuna; Aitkin; Brainard
Lonsdale
Carver
Co. Rd. 22 between Wyoming & Linwood
Brooton
Hwy169 between Elk River & Zimmerman
Columbus Twp
Sherburne Co.
Hwy 33 between Virginia & Duluth
Oak Grove
north of Hibbing; Hwy 5 to Sturgeon Lake & Side Lake area
Watertown
Spring Valley
Lindwood Twp
Grasston
north of Nashwauk
Hwy 35 from Faribault to Albert Lea
Princeton
west of Dassel
Hwy 64 north of Chamberlain & south of Akeley
north of Brainard between Crosslake & Merrifield
Co. Rd. 123 in Greenfield; Hanover
Big Lake
northeast of Pine County near Askov
Mcleod County in Silver Lake
north of Mora
between Rush City & Brahm
Hwy 97 from Coon Lake to Linwood Twp
Glen
between Grand Rapids & Marcell
Grove Lane in Pope Co.
Grand Rapids through Marcell
Hwy65 & Hwy 47 between Hwy 95 & Hwy 23
ANOKA
Hwy. 10 Anoka
Anoka, Hwy 65 & 81st Ave; Hwy10 between Co. Rd. J & Hwy 65
west of I-35 at Anoka Co. Rd 23
HAM LAKE
northeast corner of Ham Lake
Ham Lake
MINNETONKA
Minnetonka
west of Co. Rd. 101 on Minnetonka Blvd
Crestview Ln.
Minnetonka on the border of Deephaven on Theresa St.
EAST BETHEL
between East Bethel & Ham Lake
East Bethel
East Bethal on Co. Rd 26; E. Hwy 65; north of Isanti
East Bethal on Hwy 237
ROSEVILLE
McCoven in Roseville
CANNON FALLS/MEISVILLE/HAMPTON/CASTLE ROCK/COATES
* Hwy 50 between Hampton & Meisville
Hwy 52 south between Hampton & Cannon Falls
Vermillion; Cannon Falls; Northfield; Castle Rock; Hastings; Red Wing
Hwy 52 from Coates to Rochester
BURNSVILLE
Burnsville
Burnsville; Savage; Prior Lake
Hwy 47 north of St. Francis; Burnsville
EAGAN
Eagan at Lexington & Yankee Doodle
Pilot Knob Rd. between I-494 & Lone Oak Rd.
Eagan
Pilot Knob Rd to McAndrews Rd
WHITE BEAR LAKE
White Bear Lake
BLAINE
Blaine near Hwy 65 & Hwy 242
APPLE VALLEY
Co.Rd 38
132nd St.W & Johnny Cake Ridge Rd.
Cedar & 145 St.
Co.Rd.38 & Johnny Cake Ridge Rd.
NEW BRIGHTON
New Brighton
COLUMBIA HEIGHTS
west & east of Apache Plaza Hart Lake Blvd.& 39th Ave.
Stinson & 45th Ave.
41st Ave.NE & Aurthur St. NE
MAPLEWOOD
Rolling Hills of Maplewood
Larpenteur & McKnight on Currie St.
LINO LAKES/HUGO
Hugo
Lino Lakes on Co.Rd J & Hwy 49
CHASKA
between Chaska & Norwood Young America
NORTH OAKS/SHOREVIEW/ARDEN HILLS
North Oaks
I-694 from Rice to 35W
WOODBURY
I-494 & 61; Wild Caynon Rd.
Wild Canyon Rd.
GOLDEN VALLEY
Hwy55 & Boone Ave
394 & Louisiana
NORTHFIELD
between Elko & Northfield
RICHFIELD
Richfield @ 66th & Portland
eastern Richfield
Richfield
CRYSTAL
between Louisiana & Hwy. 100; 28th St. & Louisiana St. & Lake Rd.
Winneka & 32nd
SHAKOPEE
St.Peter to Shakopee; Becker
Hwy16 & Hwy18 near Shakopee & Savage
Shakopee
Co.Rd 17 & Co.Rd.83 toward Hwy 169
COON RAPIDS
Coon Rapids at Zea St. NW
ROBBINSDALE
Coon Rapids @ Zea St. NW
Robbinsdale near North Memorial Hospital
LAKEVILLE
Hwy 35 between Lakeville & Fairbault
INVER GROVE HEIGHTS
68th St; Inver Grove Heights
DEEPHAVEN
Hwy7 & Hwy62; Deephaven Co. Rd. 42 west of Hwy 13 between Co. Rd 18 &
Co.Rd.21
NEW HOPE
New Hope 2 Winnetka & 36th
PRIOR LAKE
Co. Rd. 17 from Co. 82 to Co. Rd 12
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Anybody seen the tower crew in Minnesota?.....(c;
Larry
>You make an excellent point. Without extended network coverage, Verizon's
>plans would be worthless.
>
a STANDARD, nationwide digital modulation scheme then FORCE them all
to share resources on it wherever their coverage has holes in the area
they are occupying a license in or fine their asses $10K/day until
they provide a MINIMUM STANDARD level of signal across their licensed
area.......or revoke the license and hand it over to someone who will.
REGULATION is the only solution. We've been screwed by them all
"doin' their own thing" for way too many years, to the detriment of
safety and the consumers.
Thomas T. Veldhouse
"D - Z" <spam...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:vjjc34f...@corp.supernews.com...
> http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109667/
> http://www.kstp.com/article/view/109675/
>
Here is an interesting link as well. It cites the lack of native verizon
coverage in this state and it is glaringly obvious that roaming is a way of
life outside of the Twin Cities metro. It also hints at capacity issues,
which makes it seem odd that Verizion is pushing the advertising campaign
here to hard.
http://www.meetmyattorney.com/cellular/minnesota/archives/000131.html
Tom Veldhouse
Grant Edwards
> Here is an interesting link as well. It cites the lack of
> native verizon coverage in this state and it is glaringly
> obvious that roaming is a way of life outside of the Twin
> Cities metro.
If the features I want (CID, VM, Q2N) work, then I personally
don't care whether I'm in an Extendend network area or native.
If I cared about M2M, I guess it would matter.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I feel like a wet
at parking meter on Darvon!
visi.com
D - Z
nos...@home.com (Larry) wrote in article
<3f3a6853....@news.usenetserver.com>:
You mentioned tower crew, I don't think they have one of those around
here, hell, every time I talk to CS or a tech, I get someone from PA who
usually doesn't even know what state Minneapolis is in, let alone how
big it is!
I think the tower crew was here about a year ago, I think they were here
to rob some parts for other markets! The sites used to have 5 panels on
each side, now they only have 4!
Maybe if we ask really, really nice they will bring back some of the
capacity? Oh, then they could they improved service! Wow
Male Bomb
Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
of shit. MB
nos...@home.com (Larry) wrote in article
<3f3a6853....@news.usenetserver.com>:
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Male Bomb
> My comment stands. FCC needs to do its job and FORCE all carriers to
> a STANDARD, nationwide digital modulation scheme then FORCE them all
> to share resources on it wherever their coverage has holes in the area
> they are occupying a license in or fine their asses $10K/day until
> they provide a MINIMUM STANDARD level of signal across their licensed
> area.......or revoke the license and hand it over to someone who will.
LOL, then there will be a Verizon monopoly and you will have something
else to bitch about. MB
> REGULATION is the only solution. We've been screwed by them all
> "doin' their own thing" for way too many years, to the detriment of
> safety and the consumers.
>
>
> Larry
>
> Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
> You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
>
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
"Male Bomb" <male...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> LOL, then there will be a Verizon monopoly and you will have something
> else to bitch about. MB
>
If Verizon owned Sprint PCS, there would be nothing to bitch at Verizon
about in Minnesota, except perhaps Analog access, which is already superb in
this state.
Tom Veldhouse
Thomas T. Veldhouse
> OK Larry so what your saying is Nextel's coverage is better than that of
> Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
> of shit. MB
>
Natively, in Minnesota, YES, it is. SprintPCS, T-Mobile, Nextel, QWest,
Verizon in that order.
Tom Veldhouse
CCCC1 1CCCC
Larry posting the truth.... Typical vealot reation to truth about
vzn.... As for being "full of shit"......hmmmmmm better start with
tampon cuz its getting real full around here with you BS posts
> "Male Bomb" <male...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vjm5e02...@corp.supernews.com...
> > OK Larry so what your saying is Nextel's coverage is better than that of
> > Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
> > of shit. MB
Grant Edwards
>> OK Larry so what your saying is Nextel's coverage is better than that of
>> Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
>> of shit. MB
>
> Natively, in Minnesota, YES, it is. SprintPCS, T-Mobile,
> Nextel, QWest, Verizon in that order.
That depends entirely on where you spend your time.
I find VZW coverage much better that QWEST.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I like the way ONLY
at their mouths move... They
visi.com look like DYING OYSTERS
Charles Robinson
:
: You mentioned tower crew, I don't think they have one of those around
: here, hell, every time I talk to CS or a tech, I get someone from PA who
: usually doesn't even know what state Minneapolis is in, let alone how
: big it is!
Well, there's a Minneapolis in Minnesota and in Kansas - maybe they just
weren't sure which one you were talking about??? :-)
-Charles
--
Charles Robinson
Eagan, MN
char...@visi.com
http://www.visi.com/~charlesr
Charles Robinson
:
:
: "Male Bomb" <male...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Yow! As someone who used Nextel for 3 years before switching to Verizon,
I can't agree with that statement. My Nextel was unusable in many areas
outside of the greater Twin Cities area (as well as in many of the
buildings I worked in IN Minneapolis). No such problems with my Verizon
phone so far - it was usable all the way up the North Shore to Grand
Marais, and even in Ely - International Falls - Lake Kabetogama! Try
that with yer Nextel/Sprint/T-Mobile....
D - Z
North Carolina as well.
Guess next time I'll really have to screw with their heads and see what
kind of response I get.
I've always just assumed that either they should be able to see my
number from CID, or when I type it in. I would hope the computer would
tell them what market I am calling from, and what market is my home!
D
Charles Robinson <char...@visi.com> wrote in article
<3f3b9f77$0$158$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>:
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
"Grant Edwards" <gra...@visi.com> wrote in message
news:3f3b9d7b$0$175$a186...@newsreader.visi.com...
> In article <3f3b8f7e$0$168$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>, Thomas T.
Veldhouse wrote:
>
> >> OK Larry so what your saying is Nextel's coverage is better than that
of
> >> Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
> >> of shit. MB
> >
> > Natively, in Minnesota, YES, it is. SprintPCS, T-Mobile,
> > Nextel, QWest, Verizon in that order.
>
> That depends entirely on where you spend your time.
>
> I find VZW coverage much better that QWEST.
>
I made no reference to coverage quality, just coverage of geographic area or
population.
Tom Veldhouse
Thomas T. Veldhouse
"Charles Robinson" <char...@visi.com> wrote in message
news:3f3ba01a$0$158$a186...@newsreader.visi.com...
> Yow! As someone who used Nextel for 3 years before switching to Verizon,
> I can't agree with that statement. My Nextel was unusable in many areas
> outside of the greater Twin Cities area (as well as in many of the
> buildings I worked in IN Minneapolis). No such problems with my Verizon
> phone so far - it was usable all the way up the North Shore to Grand
> Marais, and even in Ely - International Falls - Lake Kabetogama! Try
> that with yer Nextel/Sprint/T-Mobile....
Again, as I mentioned in the previous thread article. I am not talking
about coverage quality, I am talking about coverage by geographic area or
population.
Tom Veldhouse
Larry
wrote:
>OK Larry so what your saying is Nextel's coverage is better than that of
>Vzw? You never seem to answer a post when you know it shows your full
>of shit. MB
>
Ahh...my puppy dog. "Here boy!" I never had a dog follow me around
this good.
Anybody want a little puppy?.....(c;
Male Bomb
I was talking about VZW vs. Nextel as a whole, not just MN. There will
be places every carrier will have deficiencies, I was talking about the
big picture. MB
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <vel...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<3f3bb3b4$0$173$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>:
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Male Bomb
something to bitch about. Its all good because he is still lining the
VZW coffers . MB
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <vel...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<3f3b8f18$0$161$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>:
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Well there is a post from someone in MN who has used both services, and
> I was talking about VZW vs. Nextel as a whole, not just MN. There will
> be places every carrier will have deficiencies, I was talking about the
> big picture. MB
>
Well, considering the thread subject is MN.
Tom Veldhouse