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Verizon has mobile to mobile calling area map for Nor Cal finally! :)

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Mike Cook

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Sep 11, 2001, 3:19:52 AM9/11/01
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Well, Verizon finally put up a Mobile to Mobile calling area map for
my area, Ukiah, California. They show the MTM map for the San
Francisco(which I'm a part of)area and Sacramento area. Now I know
where I can use those mobile to mobile minutes on my new Single Rate
West plan, and with 3000 night and weekends, I'll have to start
calling people at randon in the phone book to use all of the minutes
lol

SlobbyDon

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Sep 11, 2001, 12:02:48 PM9/11/01
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So, Sacto and SF can call each other MTM, but Reno is excluded? Or is
the entire Northern CA/NV area MTM?

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Bill Radio

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Sep 12, 2001, 12:12:59 AM9/12/01
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Mike,
-Is it the same as the Local Digital Choice Coverage? If not how much
smaller?
-Where did you find it? Was it buried in the Family plan details like
before?

It was actually a Verizon employee who told me "when I saw those tiny
MtoM maps, I thought 'why would people bother?'"

-Bill Radio

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Mike Cook

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Sep 12, 2001, 12:29:51 AM9/12/01
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They show it on the plans and pricing page. Here's the link for Single Rate
West for my area
http://www.app.airtouch.com/ics/plsql/plan_detail.intro?p_hdr_id=24078485&p_
plan_category_id=10118&p_section=PLANS_PRICING
They divided the mtm calling areas into two, one for all the former
GTE/Contel coverage area in California, and another for the former Airtouch
coverage areas in Northern and Central California and Northern Nevada, and
parts of So Cal. I checked the one for Pocatello and theirs include all of
Idaho and Utah, no distinction made there between the former Airtouch and
Commnet coverage areas. Here's the one for Colorado:
http://www.app.airtouch.com/ics/plsql/plan_detail.intro?p_hdr_id=24078869&p_
plan_category_id=10104&p_section=PLANS_PRICING
Idaho got a big area, they split us in California and Colorado into two.

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Bill Radio

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Sep 12, 2001, 1:01:53 AM9/12/01
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Mike,
Hey, that's a new link on our local Price plan Page! Thanks! However,
when I called Verizon to ask about adding the M2M to my SRW account,
either as an additonal charge ($10), or as accepting the promotion and
the new contract, the agent looked up, and described, a M2M map that was
like the old map, covering less than 25% of the current Digital Choice
map.

Maps on the web have been incorrect. Who should one believe? Error on
the side of caution? I decided to not bother.

-Bill Radio

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Mike Cook

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Sep 12, 2001, 2:57:00 AM9/12/01
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No Prob Bill, hope all is well there after this horrible day in US History,
God Bless America :) Hey, I got noticing something odd, on their local
calling area for Northern California, they include the CC Communications
markets in Nevada(CC is their roaming partner there and owner of the markets
from Amargosa in the south, to Owyhee in the north and Eureka in the east)
Yet on the local mobile to mobile calling areas they don't include any of
the CC markets. Look at what I Mean go here:

http://www.cccomm.net/OnRoad/cellular/callingareamap.htm

then go to Verizon's web site and put in my zip, 95470, and compare them,
weird. They do anything like that there?

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Bill Radio

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Sep 14, 2001, 12:28:36 AM9/14/01
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Mike,
If the maps now shown for the DC and M2M plans for Colorado and Wyoming
are indeed accurate, they are exactly the same. The two states are
divided between those areas served by channel "A", and those served by
channel "B". For the first time there seems to be a technical
relationship to these plans' coverage. The CommNet and Airtouch areas
are now somewhat integrated.

It would be nicer to have the plans follow state lines, but the A & B
relationship at least now makes sense. AFAIK, there are no non-Verizon
counties included in either area.

-Bill Radio


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Mike Cook

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Sep 23, 2001, 3:05:03 AM9/23/01
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I don't know either. They divided the mobile to mobile calling areas by the
old GTE/Contel coverage area and the old Northern California Airtouch
coverage area. If you are in the old GTE/Contel area, you get the San
Francisco mtm area, and if you are in the old Nor Cal Airtouch area, you get
the Sacramento mtm area. They are now both Verizon and both are on the
B-band, so it make little sense not just to make all the former Airtouch(Nor
and So Cal) and GTE/Contel areas one mtm area. Only thing I can figure is
that the former Nor Cal Airtouch and GTE/Contel areas have not been
completely integrated yet. I was in Sacramento for the fair in August, and
I went into the Howe Ave. Store in Sac and asked some questions, and I
remember the tech saying he couldn't look up my account there because the
two systems weren't totally integrated yet. By the way, the Howe Ave. store
is the BEST Verizon store I have ever been in, they have got it all in sync.
I wish the Ukiah and Santa Rosa stores would learn how to work and serve
customers as well. I think the old GTE mentality is still evident in Ukiah
and Santa Rosa. The former Airtouch stores, like Sac, still lead the pack
in California.
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> Sacramento area? Grr. Somehow I managed to get charged for a
> "Cellular Regional Call" which I assume is LD for a call from home (SF
> area) to Fairfield (Sacramento area). WTF is this bullshit. I
> remember when I signed up the local calling area was nearly all of
> California, and it was eventually expanded to a few Western states.
> Yay Verizon.
>
> At least the new billing statements show where the call originated.
> That's neat IMO.
>
> - alex


SlobbyDon

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Sep 23, 2001, 5:42:11 PM9/23/01
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The only way Verizon will combine MTMs is through stiff competition.
San Diego and Los Angeles are divided supposedly because they are on a
different switch. That isn't really a valid excuse because there are
ten LATAs in California and many are combined for MTM. Nextel, however
combines San Diego, L.A. and Las Vegas into one local area.

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Jacob Rome

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:35:57 PM9/23/01
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Hi,

When i signed up, Verizon didn't tell me that my Mobile-mobile area
was limited. In fact, they said the mobile-mobile would work for me
fine; I live in San Diego, but got a LA plan. Now I've found out my
M-M area is limited. Do I have any recourse?

SlobbyDon

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Sep 23, 2001, 7:04:18 PM9/23/01
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You have MTM in the five-county L.A. area, but not in San Diego. Your
recourse is to get a San Diego number. Disclosure problems appear to be
the worst features of the cell companies. You have to dig deep into the
fine print to see what the dotted line on So. Cal maps really means.

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