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Jasper

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Jun 21, 2003, 11:18:14 AM6/21/03
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Hi,

I have been offered one of either a Nokia 6610 or a 7210......both the
same price...which one is best please?


Thanks

Jasper

eggster2k

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Jun 21, 2003, 11:33:32 AM6/21/03
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They are the same internally (except a few wallpapers and ringtones
are different).

On the outside the 7210 has a keypad which is a bit 'ackward' for some
to use whereas the 6610 has a keypad which is easier and has a 'normal
layout'.

I myself have a 6610 and it is a brilliant phone.

Phoenix AG

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Jun 21, 2003, 11:57:41 AM6/21/03
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To add to that, I believe that the 7210 has a faster processor. I am
not sure about this and have seen no evidence on the net, but a local
magazine here did a review and they said that the 7210 had a faster
processor.
It opens menus faster or something, and has a faster feel somewhat.

I myself have a 6610 as its much cheaper than the 7210. Its an
excellent phone and I have no complaints with it.

You might wanna try them both in your hand.


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Demis Giamalis

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Jun 21, 2003, 12:23:34 PM6/21/03
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Sounds like bollocks to me. Same phone, different cover! 6100 might be
different hardware though.

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Paulo De Souza

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Jun 21, 2003, 1:18:10 PM6/21/03
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> Sounds like bollocks to me. Same phone, different cover! 6100 might be
> different hardware though.

it would have to be cos its much smaller.
Paulo


Richard Colton

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Jun 21, 2003, 2:04:35 PM6/21/03
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"Phoenix AG" <conta...@in.the.ng> wrote in message
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Dunno who told you that, but it's a load of crap, they are (hardware wise)
exactly the same.

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Mark

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Jun 22, 2003, 6:45:08 AM6/22/03
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.....nope. exactly the same physical size.
perhaps you are thinking of the 6100?
-mark

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Martin Crosbie

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Jun 22, 2003, 8:13:48 AM6/22/03
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"Mark" <m#ni...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> .....nope. exactly the same physical size.
> perhaps you are thinking of the 6100?
> -mark

the fact that the post below says '6100' might have been a clue?

yes the 6100 is different, but similar, since still series 40 software.

Martin Crosbie

Jasper

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Jun 22, 2003, 9:04:40 AM6/22/03
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HOn Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:13:48 +0100, "Martin Crosbie"
<Martincrosb...@vodafone.net> wrote:

Hi, As the OP I asked for the difference between 6610 and
7210...someone has posted a thread mentioning the 6100 and that was
not the original query........thanks for the replies anyway folks


Ahmad007

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Jun 22, 2003, 8:33:13 AM6/22/03
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The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
express covers. The difference though is that both phones serves
different markets. The 6610 serves the Business/Professional market, and
the 7210 serves the Fashion looks and style.


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Jasper

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Jun 22, 2003, 10:25:25 AM6/22/03
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:33:13 +0100, Ahmad007
<Ahmad00...@www.nokia3650.net> wrote:

>
>The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
>express covers. The difference though is that both phones serves
>different markets. The 6610 serves the Business/Professional market, and
>the 7210 serves the Fashion looks and style.

A sensible reply !!.....Many thanks..


Phoenix AG

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Jun 22, 2003, 12:02:47 PM6/22/03
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:33:13 +0100, Ahmad007
<Ahmad00...@www.nokia3650.net> wrote:

>
>The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
>express covers. The difference though is that both phones serves
>different markets. The 6610 serves the Business/Professional market, and
>the 7210 serves the Fashion looks and style.

The fashion looks and style market has to pay a heavy price to get
their phone, it seems!
Over here, the 7210 is almost double the cost (about 40%).
That's crazy!

Christopher Pollard

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Jun 23, 2003, 2:18:47 AM6/23/03
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:33:13 +0100, Ahmad007 <Ahmad00...@www.nokia3650.net>
wrote:

>The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
>express covers.

Does a 7210 cover fit a 6610 and vice-versa?


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"Christopher Pollard" <rub...@cginternet.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:33:13 +0100, Ahmad007
<Ahmad00...@www.nokia3650.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
> >express covers.
>
> Does a 7210 cover fit a 6610 and vice-versa?
>

No.

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Christopher Pollard

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Jun 23, 2003, 4:16:15 AM6/23/03
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:42:00 +0100, ">-©LuVbuG©-<" <anthony...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> >The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
>> >express covers.
>>
>> Does a 7210 cover fit a 6610 and vice-versa?
>>
>
>No.

I suppose it would be a bit pointless having two models if they did...

Halls

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Jun 23, 2003, 2:56:55 AM6/23/03
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anyway, a friend of mine did have 7210 and his phone is simply buzzing like
an empty FM station during the call! this phone sucks I think. yesterday I
saw headline how many retailers in UK stop selling 7210 because of numerous
problems.

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Jun 23, 2003, 7:29:15 AM6/23/03
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"Christopher Pollard" <rub...@cginternet.net> wrote in message
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>
> I suppose it would be a bit pointless having two models if they did...
>

It's the same difference with the 6510/8310 - The former is a "professional"
phone, the latter a "fashion" phone. Their features are identical (*6510
minus in-box handsfree).

Hope this helps.

Martin Crosbie

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Jun 23, 2003, 7:44:53 AM6/23/03
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">-ŠLuVbuGŠ-<" <anthony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Christopher Pollard" <rub...@cginternet.net> wrote in message
> news:2pddfvk1vebr0fl1s...@4ax.com...
> >
> > I suppose it would be a bit pointless having two models if they did...
> >

Personally I can't see the gain, why market, produce, and support two
phones, when you can just market one and some covers? It's pointless having
two models that are identical, especially when they carry different price
tags. I can understand having the different designs, I find the 7210 keypad
harder to use than my 3650, but the 6610 is easy, but the similarities make
it a waste. all for the price of a (very) slightly different housing.

> It's the same difference with the 6510/8310 - The former is a
"professional"
> phone, the latter a "fashion" phone. Their features are identical (*6510
> minus in-box handsfree).

The 6510 was a little more advanced, better screen, a little faster IMO.
certainly more of a difference than the 72/6610, which are identical, though
again, just enough difference in the covers to make them incompatible, but
marketable to gullible people.

Martin Crosbie

Phoenix AG

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Jun 23, 2003, 8:23:07 AM6/23/03
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:16:15 +0800, Christopher Pollard
<rub...@cginternet.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:42:00 +0100, ">-ŠLuVbuGŠ-<" <anthony...@hotmail.com>


>wrote:
>
>>> >The Nokias 6610 and the 7210 are the same in everything except for the
>>> >express covers.
>>>
>>> Does a 7210 cover fit a 6610 and vice-versa?
>>>
>>
>>No.
>
>I suppose it would be a bit pointless having two models if they did...
>

I wish they did, though :-)
Heh...last night I checked up both the phones side by side to make
sure that the covers didn't fit. The placing of the 0 key and the *
nad # keys are different on the 6610 and 7210.
Plus a few minor differences on the keypad.

>-ŠLuVbuGŠ-<

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Jun 23, 2003, 9:38:56 AM6/23/03
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"Martin Crosbie" <Martincrosb...@vodafone.net> wrote in message
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>
> Personally I can't see the gain, why market, produce, and support two
> phones, when you can just market one and some covers? It's pointless
having
> two models that are identical, especially when they carry different price
> tags. I can understand having the different designs, I find the 7210
keypad
> harder to use than my 3650, but the 6610 is easy, but the similarities
make
> it a waste. all for the price of a (very) slightly different housing.
>

Because these are the two markets that Nokia manufacture phones for. The
"fashion" phones have the buttons in odd positions so it would be impossible
to have one handset with two facia layouts. Plus Nokia always go for the
"more profit approach" which is how the 7250i came to fruition.

>
> The 6510 was a little more advanced, better screen, a little faster IMO.
> certainly more of a difference than the 72/6610, which are identical,
though
> again, just enough difference in the covers to make them incompatible, but
> marketable to gullible people.
>

Granted - the 6510 screen was better quality than the 8310 (I also thought
the blue backlight was cooler). But which handset is discontinued and which
is *still* the UK's most popular pay monthly handset after a year in
service?

Nokia like to play dirty - which is what we come to expect from them.

They have 16 handsets in circulation at present, you could probably half
that number if you removed the overlap on certain models.

Not that I agree with their tactics, but they are obviously working to some
degree.

Martin Crosbie

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Jun 23, 2003, 12:03:48 PM6/23/03
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">-ŠLuVbuGŠ-<" <anthony...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Martin Crosbie" <Martincrosb...@vodafone.net> wrote in message
> news:bd6pcu$qfh$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > Personally I can't see the gain, why market, produce, and support two
> > phones, when you can just market one and some covers? It's pointless
> having
> > two models that are identical, especially when they carry different
price
> > tags. I can understand having the different designs, I find the 7210
> keypad
> > harder to use than my 3650, but the 6610 is easy, but the similarities
> make
> > it a waste. all for the price of a (very) slightly different housing.
> >
>
> Because these are the two markets that Nokia manufacture phones for. The
> "fashion" phones have the buttons in odd positions so it would be
impossible
> to have one handset with two facia layouts. Plus Nokia always go for the
> "more profit approach" which is how the 7250i came to fruition.

Button layout is virtually the same, just the rubber keys are spaced
differently, but the actual key underneath is in virtually the same place.


>
> >
> > The 6510 was a little more advanced, better screen, a little faster IMO.
> > certainly more of a difference than the 72/6610, which are identical,
> though
> > again, just enough difference in the covers to make them incompatible,
but
> > marketable to gullible people.
> >
>
> Granted - the 6510 screen was better quality than the 8310 (I also thought
> the blue backlight was cooler). But which handset is discontinued and
which
> is *still* the UK's most popular pay monthly handset after a year in
> service?

Not the first time, the 33XX became universally popular, despite having no
features whatsoever. always the lesser of the technology becomes standard -
look at VHS vs Betamax. IMO there is no reason for people to be still
selling the 8310, it's been superseded by the 6510, and 8910/i not to
mention the entire series 40 range.


>
> Nokia like to play dirty - which is what we come to expect from them.

business before useful ideas. I really hate companies that are driven by
money rather than the work they do. look at James Dyson - simply makes
better appliances. even though he has to charge the earth for them, the
company itself is more driven by making a decent product than the money
behind it. proof that you don't need to make lots of crappy products to sell
to make a decent wage, just a few good ones. nokia floods the market with
crap, yet people still buy it. It really annoys me to see people in the
shops still buying 3310's, despite the fact that its actually the hardware
of the 3330, and has less features than a pencil with no rubber tip. it just
holds the rest of us back, since Nokia - trying to just sell as much as
possible, will carry on the sale of outdated equipment, rather than pushing
the boundaries. Where is nokia's 3G handsets? witht he launch of three
several months ago, and the big 4 networks gearing up to roll out their 3rd
gen service, why hasn't nokia released the 6650? or a 3G phone you can
actually use? it seems Nokia are content to let us languish in the dark ages
using old technology, despite having forked out lots of money to help the
networks buy the 3G licences, where's the sense there?

> They have 16 handsets in circulation at present, you could probably half
> that number if you removed the overlap on certain models.

there's more if you count the US, and analogue markets - which is even
worse - still selling 5110 style handsets. why? The US market is even more
backward than the European Nokia's. partly this is the US networks needing
to use several different network types.

> Not that I agree with their tactics, but they are obviously working to
some
> degree.

Yeah, but working for them, not us.

Martin Crosbie


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"Martin Crosbie" <Martincrosb...@vodafone.net> wrote in message
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>
> Not the first time, the 33XX became universally popular, despite having no
> features whatsoever. always the lesser of the technology becomes
standard -
> look at VHS vs Betamax. IMO there is no reason for people to be still
> selling the 8310, it's been superseded by the 6510, and 8910/i not to
> mention the entire series 40 range.
>

The UK's most popular PAYG handset - the 3310. Which is a basic make/receive
calls send/receive SMS handset - simplicity sells - The Orange advert is
correct in that 80% of the population are using less than 10% of the feature
set of their phones. Both this and the 8310 are top sellers in the UK -
Nokia will not discontinue them if they still bring in significant profit,
which they do.

> > Nokia like to play dirty - which is what we come to expect from them.
>
> business before useful ideas. I really hate companies that are driven by
> money rather than the work they do. look at James Dyson - simply makes
> better appliances. even though he has to charge the earth for them, the
> company itself is more driven by making a decent product than the money
> behind it. proof that you don't need to make lots of crappy products to
sell
> to make a decent wage, just a few good ones. nokia floods the market with
> crap, yet people still buy it. It really annoys me to see people in the
> shops still buying 3310's, despite the fact that its actually the hardware
> of the 3330, and has less features than a pencil with no rubber tip. it
just
> holds the rest of us back, since Nokia - trying to just sell as much as
> possible, will carry on the sale of outdated equipment, rather than
pushing
> the boundaries. Where is nokia's 3G handsets? witht he launch of three
> several months ago, and the big 4 networks gearing up to roll out their
3rd
> gen service, why hasn't nokia released the 6650? or a 3G phone you can
> actually use? it seems Nokia are content to let us languish in the dark
ages
> using old technology, despite having forked out lots of money to help the
> networks buy the 3G licences, where's the sense there?
>

I completely agree - but as it works for them, they will continue with the
"If it aint broke" approach - This is the way the market is. Although there
still needs to be *basic* handsets otherwise you are pricing yourself out of
a market - some people only want a *basic/cheap* phone as they will only use
it for calls. Some manufacturers base their models *soley* at this market
(e.g. Trium, Sagem, Alcatel, etc). The 3310 is in this same area.

With regards to 3G, it is still at the development stage (hence 3 don't
bother advertising video calling anymore - that tactic failled miserably) we
need better coverage (i.e. less *service limitations) first then the
handsets will follow (those NEC handsets are hardly desirable are they? it's
the technology that is being sold).

>
> > Not that I agree with their tactics, but they are obviously working to
> some
> > degree.
>
> Yeah, but working for them, not us.
>

*If you were speaking purely as a consumer* it would work as we have better
affordability and choice.

Ahmad007

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Jun 22, 2003, 6:10:57 PM6/22/03
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> The fashion looks and style market has to pay a heavy price

Check www.expansys.com and see the prices of the 6610 and the 7210 both
of them are cheap now around $200+ :)

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