Apple building 5 to 6 million new iPhones
David Moyer
that Apple is building 5+ million for opening day. (probably july 3rd or
10th)
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Adding his voice to the drumbeat of speculation about Apple�s (AAPL)
future iPhone plans, Kaufman Bros.� Shaw Wu weighed in early Wednesday
with a new report from his supply chain and industry sources.
Among his findings:
* Two out of three. Wu had heard that there are three new iPhones in
the works, but based on clues that developers are finding in the beta
iPhone 3.0 software, he now believes �only two will see the light of
day.�
* iPhone Sr. and iPhone Jr. Wu hears that one of the new iPhones
will have longer battery life and a much more powerful processor capable
of running more complex apps. The other would be a less-powerful
�junior� iPhone.
* Millions of iPhones. Wu�s sources indicate a �build plan� for the
new models in the 5 million to 6 million unit range, considerably higher
than his current 4.5 million estimate for the September quarter (fiscal
Q4).
* Timing is critical. Wu is still not sure whether the new iPhones
will ship in June or July. If the latter, the June quarter could be a
tough one for Apple. Wu was expecting Apple to sell 3.2 million iPhones
in the March quarter (fQ2) and 3.7 million in the June quarter (fQ3).
But all bets are off if the new iPhones don�t arrive until late June or
July, and customers who were thinking about buying the current model
hold out for the new ones.
* AT&T may cave. Wu�s sources indicate a �high likelihood� that AT&T
(T) will come out with more flexible �tiered� data plans to replace the
one-size-fits-all $30 a month unlimited plan that has run into
resistance among newly price-conscious consumers.
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/04/08/apple-building-5-6-millio
n-new-iphones-analyst/
Larry
@news.qwest.net:
> As the iPhone continues to take over the cell market, word has leaked
> that Apple is building 5+ million for opening day. (probably july 3rd or
> 10th)
>
>
David! Iphone fanboi! What you doin in the Nokia newsgroup?
5M units? Nokia sold them yesterday! They're building more now!
Your N900 replacement for that non-multitasking PoS is coming. Be patient!
Man, wait until you play with multitasking on FOUR home screens!
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Larry
Rex
reality distortion field is at its epic best.
Show them something absent in the iPhone (copy/paste, MMS, video
recording in the first release) and they'll go on about how no one needs
it. Then when Steve Jobs changes his mind, these features automatically
get worshiped as though Apple invented them.
When the first iPhone was launched, I distinctly remember Steve Jobs
saying that there won't be any SDK, just web apps for Safari- and then
the fanboys went 'who needs apps! The web is the future!' until the App
store was launched.
And I've seen some laughable comparison of iPhone 3G with other handsets
where the presence of copy/paste was listed as a feature worth
comparing! Hey, it can make calls! Why not list that too?
Install apps from anywhere, download music from anywhere, customize it
with ringtones/wallpapers/themes anyway you want, publish photos/content
to any provider of your choice, all without interference from either
Nokia or your service provider. That's the philosophy behind Nokia (and
Samsung,HTC,Sony Ericson)- take the phone and do what you want with it,
unlike control freak Apple.
And unlike the iPhone, which can't walk and chew bubble gum at the same
time,
the N900 is a scaled down Linux computer that also has phone functions,
and as always, Nokia offers it absolutely without any restrictions, i.e
over the counter unlocked.
It also acts as a USB host- meaning you can connect your portable
drive/music player and copy/play stuff off it.
So you could probably sit with it and stream divx/ogg video from your
home network over wifi while surfing full featured flash websites on the
mozilla browser,while chatting to your friends over gtalk/skype just
because you can- but you'll never impress an Apple fanboy because it was
not invented by Apple.
I sometimes wonder what's gonna happen to Apple if Jobs were to drop
dead suddenly tomorrow. He has not groomed anyone to take over the
company in his stead- and we've already seen how Apple floundered while
he was away from it.
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"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be
counted counts."
-- Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton.
Larry
@news.eternal-september.org:
> And I've seen some laughable comparison of iPhone 3G with other handsets
> where the presence of copy/paste was listed as a feature worth
> comparing!
Won't make any difference what its 3G capabilities are if the only 3G ATT
can provide looks like this new coverage map Verizon is advertising about
ATT's 3G footprint....iphone hype or not!
http://phones.verizonwireless.com/3g/imgs/attmap.jpg
Hell, that map where I live is lots smaller than little CRICKET!
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Larry
nospam
<rexdudeREMOVEA...@liam.ur> wrote:
> When the first iPhone was launched, I distinctly remember Steve Jobs
> saying that there won't be any SDK, just web apps for Safari- and then
> the fanboys went 'who needs apps! The web is the future!' until the App
> store was launched.
wrong. when the iphone was launched, apple said they hadn't decided
about opening up the platform (they probably did internally but that
was the public statement).
when they announced web apps, developers were not overly enthusiastic.
the sdk is a shitload of work and it took a while to get to a point
where it could be released. in short, it wasn't done at launch time.
Pegleg
> David! Iphone fanboi! What you doin in the Nokia newsgroup?
Why are you cross posting? Idiot!
Todd Allcock
That's your theory. I think they scrambled to throw it together when
"web apps" went over like the proverbial lead balloon. I'm not the only
one who sees the irony that the same fanboys who beat the "web apps is
all you need" drum now measure the platform's success by the number of
the apps in the app store.
nospam
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> > the sdk is a shitload of work and it took a while to get to a point
> > where it could be released. in short, it wasn't done at launch time.
>
> That's your theory.
yes it is. only people at apple know what truly happened.
> I think they scrambled to throw it together when
> "web apps" went over like the proverbial lead balloon. I'm not the only
> one who sees the irony that the same fanboys who beat the "web apps is
> all you need" drum now measure the platform's success by the number of
> the apps in the app store.
having worked with the sdk, it's clear that it was not just simply
thrown together. a *lot* of work went into it.
Rex
product. And given Apple's reputation for quality hardware- had they
sold it unlocked and over the counter as do every other mobile
manufacturer, people would still have lapped it up.
To take further the case of apps- people who bought the first iPhone
hacked it to make it run apps, and only after that did St. Jobs realize
that this had potential.
The trouble with Apple is not the quality of its products- it's the
company as well as its arrogant founder.
1) The philosophy of total control over every aspect of the device even
post purchase (also known as 'You're Steve Jobs' bitch' philosophy) so
that iPod will only work with iTunes and the iTunes music store, iPhone
will only be sold with a special plan on AT&T and historically, Macs
will only work with proprietary interfaces.
2) The general attitude of arrogance exuded in spades, by the messiah as
well as his followers: basically 'if you don't use Apple products you
are stupid' ,'Everything that's not made by Apple is crap' and 'A
feature absent from an Apple product is a feature not worth having (till
of course Apple DOES include it. So the fans went from 'who needs cut
and paste' to 'WOW! IT CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT OTHER PHONES HAVE BEEN DOING
FOR YEARS!!)'
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Larry
@newsfe10.iad:
> That's your theory. I think they scrambled to throw it together when
> "web apps" went over like the proverbial lead balloon. I'm not the only
> one who sees the irony that the same fanboys who beat the "web apps is
> all you need" drum now measure the platform's success by the number of
> the apps in the app store.
>
>
>
Ahhh..."Cloud computing will replace all those nasty user-owned monster
computers".....
.....in their dreams....money grubbing bastards.
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Larry
Larry
nos...@nospam.invalid:
> having worked with the sdk, it's clear that it was not just simply
> thrown together. a *lot* of work went into it.
>
>
Have you downloaded the free Nokia N900 Maemo Linux 5 SDK, yet?
Wonder how it compares....
http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-
fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/maemo-5-sdk-is-now-in-beta-get-
developing/
http://qt.nokia.com/
QT should make cross-platform implementations much easier....
Help yourself...don't be shy. Just don't tell any iphones and close your
curtains....
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Larry
Larry
@news.eternal-september.org:
> 2) The general attitude of arrogance exuded in spades, by the messiah as
> well as his followers: basically 'if you don't use Apple products you
> are stupid' ,'Everything that's not made by Apple is crap' and 'A
> feature absent from an Apple product is a feature not worth having (till
> of course Apple DOES include it. So the fans went from 'who needs cut
> and paste' to 'WOW! IT CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT OTHER PHONES HAVE BEEN DOING
> FOR YEARS!!)'
>
>
>
What are they supposed to do with all that Firewire stuff they can't use
with the new MACs??
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Larry
Larry
@news.eternal-september.org:
> Larry wrote:
>
>> David! Iphone fanboi! What you doin in the Nokia newsgroup?
>
> Why are you cross posting? Idiot!
>
I saw the post in the Nokia newsgroup, jerk!
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Larry
Ron
>David Moyer <dav...@world.com> wrote in news:49dcf889$0$48220$815e3792
>@news.qwest.net:
>
>> As the iPhone continues to take over the cell market, word has leaked
>> that Apple is building 5+ million for opening day. (probably july 3rd or
>> 10th)
>>
>>
>
>David! Iphone fanboi! What you doin in the Nokia newsgroup?
>
>5M units? Nokia sold them yesterday! They're building more now!
You mean those Biodegradable CandyBar phones?
Bruisende Bergbeek
"Larry" <no...@home.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns9CB3C2F788...@74.209.131.13...
What are you talking about?
I am waiting for a cellphone that van microwave my food
and has a shower function, then I can leave my house which is way too
expensive, and life on the street. ;o)
Larry
$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:
> What are you talking about?
> I am waiting for a cellphone that van microwave my food
> and has a shower function, then I can leave my house which is way too
> expensive, and life on the street. ;o)
>
>
Half of your requirement would have been easy this week in Charleston, SC,
USA. You could have showered nearly continuous for 4 days....(c;]
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Larry
Bruisende Bergbeek
Tss I am in Holland, that is just a small bit better then Britain
considering showers.
So plenty of that here, although I was talking about warm water ofcourse and
with
global warming that might even happen. ;o)
Larry
> Tss I am in Holland, that is just a small bit better then Britain
> considering showers.
> So plenty of that here, although I was talking about warm water
> ofcourse and with
> global warming that might even happen. ;o)
>
>
>
When I got my electric bill, which also heats my home, this month, I was
trying to figure out what the downside was to the warming Earth. It had
dropped $US30 to $US58. I'm sure our power corporation wasn't impressed
with the drop in revenues....
I live on a tidal river in Charleston, South Carolina. The tide makes a
high water mark on the dock pilings right where a nail is driven in for
some long-forgotten gadget. That nail isn't, even today, underwater at
high tide like Algore promised me it would be.
He must have lied. He IS a politician, you know....(c;]
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Larry
Bruisende Bergbeek
> "Bruisende Bergbeek" <bruis...@rgbe.ek> wrote in
> news:4b0142bb$0$22916$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:
>
>> Tss I am in Holland, that is just a small bit better then Britain
>> considering showers.
>> So plenty of that here, although I was talking about warm water
>> ofcourse and with
>> global warming that might even happen. ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
> When I got my electric bill, which also heats my home, this month, I was
> trying to figure out what the downside was to the warming Earth. It had
> dropped $US30 to $US58. I'm sure our power corporation wasn't impressed
> with the drop in revenues....
And actually, because of the warmer climate, you have to burn less fuell
to heat your home, That will deminish the CO2 emissions, so it solves itself
(unless airconditioning takes it away again ofcourse ;o) )
> I live on a tidal river in Charleston, South Carolina. The tide makes a
> high water mark on the dock pilings right where a nail is driven in for
> some long-forgotten gadget. That nail isn't, even today, underwater at
> high tide like Algore promised me it would be.
Well due to the heat the ground is expanding too ofcourse, which makes
it higher so they forgot that in their calculations ;o)
> He must have lied. He IS a politician, you know....(c;]
No actually he isnt, he tried to be.
>
> --
> Larry
>