Bottom Line...V710...Does this shit work or not?
Lawrence Frelot
surprise, this POS doesn't work as advertised. Bluetooth, doesn't work as
it should - I knew this before and didn't care because I thought the USB
cable with Mobile Tools would work to sync my address book in Outlook with
my V710. Nope. Doesn't work in spite of what that dude in India said when
I called Motorola today. He guided me to the company that makes Mobile
Tools (BVRP or something) and I downloaded an upgrade (I believe it was
version 2.21b). Installed the crap and it didn't recognize the phone;
however, the software can recognize that I have plug the USB cable in the
computer and phone and attempts to find the phone. After that, the
program's phone picture interface says, "Intializing" but never finds the
phone. I click on the option to find an upgrade and it did (version 2.21e).
"Okay," I said, "Upgrade again." Crap still doesn't recognize the phone.
Question: Does the Mobile phone tools with USB cable work at all? Or is
this just crap?
Question: Is it true that there will be a fix soon. That Indian guy told me
November. I think this is a bunch OS!
I called Verizon the other day and talked with 3 people before finally
getting a manager. He didn't know much about what was going on but he was
really helpful. He called me back the next day and said that he will take
the phone back, even though I didn't have the box and will credit me and
shut off service if I didn't want to purchase another phone (I must also add
that I hinted that I would sue due to the fact the Verizon's and Motorola's
web site clearly states that the phone is a Bluetooth phone with the ability
to sync with other Bluetooth devices for headsets, data, etc. Verizon's
says that I can sync to a PC or PDA anywhere at anytime.
Too bad, I thought that I wanted to try Motorola out again after they
fumbled the ball to Nokia years back. And I wanted to buy American this
time. Now, I'm probably left with all those Korean LG (Lucky Goldstar -
shit!) and Samsung phones...which are okay, but God knows I don't want to
support that economy because they don't believe in buying shit from anyone
else but Korean.
Sorry about my 2-cents above; however, that's the way I feel.
Motorola - you dropped the ball again. Get a clue from Japanese phone
makers in Japan. Idiots!
Gentleman Caller
NEVER had any problems with Nokia. I'm looking at buying the V600 this
week but I hear that the problems your having are the same for the V600.
Oh joy!
Gregg Hill
November Phone Tools update will allow Bluetooth or USB retrieval of
pictures and syncing to PC.
"Regarding your question, the solution consists of a firmware upgrade that
will restore the OBEX profile missing in the V710. Once done this the V710
will be Bluetooth enabled and you will be able to retrieve the camera
pictures via the Bluetooth link or via a USB connection."
Gregg Hill
"Lawrence Frelot" <i-am-lawren...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Lawrence Frelot
of that in the first place? Geez, what the hell is America coming to? So,
did they (Verizon or/and Motorola) cripple the phone on purpose? I've read
that here in the group. So, after November I will be able to sync my
contacts and schedule into this phone by phone or USB cable?
I don't think I can wait. What a bitter taste in my mouth. Guess, I have
to go Korean or Japanese (Kyocera). Get a clue American corporations!
Don't fuck your base.
- Lawrence
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Lawrence Frelot
"Gentleman Caller" <Dalton_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jon Clark
the U.S. that even includes bluetooth? NO. Does Nokia sell a CDMA phone in
the US that includes Bluetooth? NO.
Stop comparing apples to oranges.
VZW requested the OBEX profiles in the v710 be turned off to force people to
use GIN. A pure revenue-driven business decision, which I happen to
completely disagree with as well. However, they know, as well as most other
people do, that well over 50%, if not 80% of their customers demanding
bluetooth wanted it for headset and handsfree use, and that's it.
Then, you diverged into the synching the phone with a USB cable. You can't
wait two months? You don't think the other manufacturers ever lag behind in
software and accessory support when it comes to new models?
Get over it. It will be along. If you waited this long for the phone, you
can wait for the software. Let someone else be the beta tester and relax.
If you can't, it really isn't necessary you come here and spout off.
-Jon
"Lawrence Frelot" <i-am-lawren...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Roger Binns
> Does LG or Kyocera or Samsung or Sanyo make a CDMA (or GSM) phone
> sold in the U.S. that even includes bluetooth? NO.
The really funny thing is that most of the Qualcomm chipsets they
all use do include the necessary bluetooth hardware! Obviously it
still needs the BT antenna and some software enabling.
Heck the one they used in the LG VX4400 supported BlueTooth and SD
cards, and it was from 2000.
Roger
Eric Rosenberry
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> Question: Does the Mobile phone tools with USB cable work at all? Or is
> this just crap?
Yes. After getting all the latest updates to Mobile phone tools (using the
built in updater) I was able to read contacts to and from the v710 with the
Verizon USB cable that they sell for Motorola phones (it even has a sticker
on the Mobile office kit that says v710). Mobile phone tools will even
synch with outlook (I am using Office 2003 and it seems to work!)
-Eric
Carl Rothman
posts, Lawrence is way too emotional and overreactive. It prevents his
thinking from being clear and objective. I believe it also prevents him
from getting what he wants/needs, either out of things or out of people.
Calm down, fella. Take a breath.
"Jon Clark" <jsclar...@visi.com> wrote in message
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Steve Sobol
> Jon Clark wrote:
>
>>Does LG or Kyocera or Samsung or Sanyo make a CDMA (or GSM) phone
>>sold in the U.S. that even includes bluetooth? NO.
>
>
> The really funny thing is that most of the Qualcomm chipsets they
> all use
I don't believe Motorola uses Qualcomm chipsets. IIRC they've always "rolled
their own."
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Tonyny44
>makers in Japan. Idiots!
>
My 710 works like a CHARM in my 300c
Bob the Printer
phone, so any improvement in that situation is a bonus eh? I knew that MPT
was not fully working with the V710, so I got Verizon wireless Mobile
office kit when I got my V710 and that works fine to synch contacts. I use a
transflash card to transfer pictures, videos, and ringtones back and forth
between the phone and PC. Works great!
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Bob the Printer
"Steve Sobol" <sjs...@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> I don't believe Motorola uses Qualcomm chipsets. IIRC they've always
"rolled
> their own."
You're probably right, since the V710 doesn't have one of those little CDMA
by Qualcomm' stickers on it..:-)
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Killer Madness
Their software for using with your computer is completely free and works
with Outlook and/or it's own contact list software. Nokia is years ahead of
Motorola with this type of procedure and always has be. Too bad Verizon's
phone list doesn't carry more Nokia phones...and I have a feeling why.
Because the software is free and Verizon won't get more money from you.
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Killer Madness
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David L
> surprise, this POS doesn't work as advertised. Bluetooth, doesn't work as
Word from the wise...never buy a just launch cell phone, especially
Motorola. They are rushed to market and guess who does the beta
testing?
If you look around on the handset there is likely a made in China
sticker.
I'm waiting for the Audiovox 9900, made in Japan. At least they own
quite a bit of the US.
-
David
Roger Binns
> I don't believe Motorola uses Qualcomm chipsets. IIRC they've always
> "rolled their own."
I didn't include them in the list! Some of their phones support the
Qualcomm diagnostics protocols which means they must be using some
Qualcomms chips and software.
Roger
Lawrence Frelot
Have a nice day!
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Lawrence Frelot
Here's two breaths: Fuck you! How's that for too emotional and
overreactive?
"Carl Rothman" <crot...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
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FELIX
Do you have any specs on this phone? I checked Phonescoop but I found nothing....
Steve
EEN...@AOL.COM (FELIX) wrote:
There are pages at Phonescoop.com dedicated to the 9900. To say you
found nothing means you didn't look.
Did you actually type 9900 in the area at the top of the page where it
says "jump to a phone" and get nothing? Of course you didn't.
David L
> Too bad Verizon's
> phone list doesn't carry more Nokia phones...
A verizon employee reports this Nokia is in their system
(infomanager?). Will be launched after current 3595i's are sold out.
Nokia 6015i Phone
http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6015i/1,2803,feat:1,00.html
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David
Steve Sobol
There's a damned good reason Verizon doesn't carry more Nokia phones. Nokia,
for a long time, ignored CDMA while focusing on TDMA and GSM -- I recall a time
when just about every phone AT&T Wireless used to carry was a Nokia, for
example. Between the 2180/2170 and the 5185i was several years of absolute crap
masquerading as (a small number of) Nokia CDMA handsets. Sprint stopped selling
Nokia for a while, too.
I can't blame any CDMA carrier for hesitating to commit to selling lots of
Nokia models, although it seems Nokia may have finally Found Clue and gotten
their act together.
David L
> > quite a bit of the US.
> >
> > -
> > David
>
>
> Do you have any specs on this phone? I checked Phonescoop but I found nothing....
I'm pleased with the Audiovox 9500. Came out with the LG4400. Fine
Japanese phone with a few flaws. (Flat buttons, small external
dispaly, volume control inside phone, no side buttons) But the BEST
analog reception of any VZW handset and easy to read.
Hoping the 9900 still has great reception capabilities and flaws ppear
to be fixed. The display resolution is reported as stellar. Due out
around Sept 30-Oct 7.
Nokia 6015i comming soon too.
Audiovox CDM-9900 Specifications & Features (Phone Scoop)
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=407
Reviews of the Sprint version, released many months ago. Very similar
to VZW version, different firmware and the buttons are slightly
changed.
Audiovox CDM-9950 / Toshiba VM4050 User Reviews (Phone Scoop)
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/user_reviews.php?phone=352
Detailed info.
http://home.comcast.net/~fauguy/CDM9900.pdf
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David
David L
> David L wrote:
>
> > "Killer Madness" <kil...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<K5s4d.7841$SL....@fe36.usenetserver.com>...
> >
> >>Too bad Verizon's
> >>phone list doesn't carry more Nokia phones...
> >
> >
> > A verizon employee reports this Nokia is in their system
> > (infomanager?). Will be launched after current 3595i's are sold out.
> >
> > Nokia 6015i Phone
> >
> > http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6015i/1,2803,feat:1,00.html
>
> There's a damned good reason Verizon doesn't carry more Nokia phones. Nokia,
> for a long time, ignored CDMA while focusing on TDMA and GSM -- I recall a time
> when just about every phone AT&T Wireless used to carry was a Nokia, for
> example. Between the 2180/2170 and the 5185i was several years of absolute crap
> masquerading as (a small number of) Nokia CDMA handsets. Sprint stopped selling
> Nokia for a while, too.
>
> I can't blame any CDMA carrier for hesitating to commit to selling lots of
> Nokia models, although it seems Nokia may have finally Found Clue and gotten
> their act together.
Correct. Nokia just had to "roll their own" cdma chips IIRC and they
teed off a lot of big cdma carriers in the process.
With the amazing RF capabilties of the 3585/3595i's perhaps they have
redeemed themselves, though Verizon seems to have relegated to using
Nokia as free or bottom line handsets. I even saw some new models on
SPCS...shock. So all must be well. If Nokia ever gets a chance (or an
order) to supply an upscale handset(flip), with the same top notch
digital RF, I still think they could write their own ticket.
Problem IMO, is Nokia gives too much away or controls accessories, sw,
ringtones and makes too many cheap/cross model accessories, so VZW
doesn't get to soak each new handset model buyer with oddball limited
channel release accessories. There's big money in all those extras and
Verizon likes to control every angle possible, associated with each
handset used on their network, which could produce additional revenue,
despite the hassles it causes consumers.
I think VZW likes Motorola because of the low prices, courtesy of
mainland Chinese gulag wages. The ability to buy at a cut rate prices,
along with the huge volumes Mot can supply, even though their crap
often comes out half baked, makes VZW a ready customer. Motorola
phones look good and work ok and Motorola figured out how important a
"professional" look is... why can't those other handset makers produce
a simple understated, adult design?
While Mot still manages to maintain a respectable name recognition
(how is beyond me) among users that don't seem to look any further
than a nicely designed facade, and where many suite types seem to fear
anything that doesn't match some uniformity of image and neck ties...
in a great yawn of uninspired conformity, a "professional" look, along
a misplaced faith in a long gone, USA Motorola quality and
dominence...the currant Motorola effluvia continues to sell.
Kinda like Bose speakers.
And the frequent bad phones are cheap to swap out.
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David
Killer Madness
(acutally all of them) don't cripple or disable hardware functions on any of
the phones they provide. Of course it was all done on purpose. Now that
everyone is actually doing the real R&D for this phone another model will
eventually hit the market probably after the holidays.
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Killer Madness
and Cingular for a long ass time. As you tell some one to "wait" for that
ability which actually should have been there in the first place is a
ridiculous thing. Needless to say, and unfortunately I'm back on Verizon
Wireless using the only phone I would allow myself to use. Their Nokia 3589i
model, which I can sync and transfer files just fine. There's no waiting for
me...but some one who spent hundreds of dollars on a phone will have to.
Doesn't make sense to me, but as usual everyone will disagree with me and
think spending a whole shit load of money and having to wait for a feature
to work (that should have when you bought it) is a normal thing.
Who figures?
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Killer Madness
course on other carriers such as of course GSM. While they've spent all
their millions on R&D for some of the best cellular phones in the world on
GSM Verizon wireless will only get Nokia's entry level models...which is
evident as you can see.
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Killer Madness
accurate and smooth. I like to see educating bashing...which most people
don't like to do because they just live with the problems they have.
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Brad
johnnyc
<bo...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> According to Motorola in answer to a question I posted on their site, the
> November Phone Tools update will allow Bluetooth or USB retrieval of
> pictures and syncing to PC.
>
> "Regarding your question, the solution consists of a firmware upgrade that
> will restore the OBEX profile missing in the V710. Once done this the V710
> will be Bluetooth enabled and you will be able to retrieve the camera
> pictures via the Bluetooth link or via a USB connection."
>
> Gregg Hill
Will this be true for the v710 provided by Verizon or will they
continue to offer the disabled bluetooth v710?
dce
Removes all doubt.
Lawrence Frelot Wrote:
> Carl,
>
> Here's two breaths: **** you! How's that for too emotional and
> overreactive?
>
>
> "Carl Rothman" crot...@NOSPAMoptonline.net wrote in message
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> This is an excellent point, Jon. For my tastes, based on the tone of
> his
> posts, Lawrence is way too emotional and overreactive. It prevents
> his
> thinking from being clear and objective. I believe it also prevents
> him
> from getting what he wants/needs, either out of things or out of
> people.
>
> Calm down, fella. Take a breath.
>
> "Jon Clark" jsclar...@visi.com wrote in message
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> So, I have to wait 2 mos. for this crap to work when it should have
> done
> all of that in the first place? Geez, what the hell is America
> coming
> to? So, did they (Verizon or/and Motorola) cripple the phone on
> purpose?
> I've read that here in the group. So, after November I will be able
> to
> sync my contacts and schedule into this phone by phone or USB cable?
>
> I don't think I can wait. What a bitter taste in my mouth. Guess,
> I
> have to go Korean or Japanese (Kyocera). Get a clue American
> corporations! Don't **** your base.
> Goldstar - ****!) and Samsung phones...which are okay, but God knows
> I
> don't want to support that economy because they don't believe in
> buying **** from anyone else but Korean.
>
> Sorry about my 2-cents above; however, that's the way I feel.
>
> Motorola - you dropped the ball again. Get a clue from Japanese
> phone
> makers in Japan. Idiots!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> -
>
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gilbertelite
I just got a motorola v710 from verizon. Using the Mobile Office kit I
bought from verizon 3 cell phones ago I just loaded all my phone
numbers back in with no problem.
I also got the bluetooth ear piece and followed the instructions and
it is working as well.
The main problem I have had with the prior v60 motorola phone is when I
dropped it from the top of a 260ft tower the display
was not readable...It still would ring and it was able to work enough
to be able to make it transfer calls to another cell phone. Also there
was a hairline crack on one hinge.
Quicklink Mobil phonebook version 3.2.0
Phone software version 8700_01.40.0R
bluetooth HS820
All purchased from the Verison store.
I don't have any of the problems you describe.
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