iPhone users get BBC radio downloads
4phun
By James Sherwood
24th September 2008 13:21 GMT
The BBC has confirmed that its radio programmes can now be accessed on-
demand through the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Radio fans can listen to radio shows up to seven days after they were
broadcast. Shows come in MP3 format and are compressed to 128kb/s.
Mark Friend of the BBC said in offcial blog that punters must download
the shows through iPlayer and over a Wi-Fi connection, but there was
no specific mention made to the iPhone 3G.
Friend added that the availability of BBC radio shows on-demand to
iPhone and iPod Touch users is thanks to the organisation’s “future
media teams,” who’ve adapted audio formats to suit the Apple devices.
It was also mentioned that the BBC plans to start rolling out radio on-
demand to other portable devices soon, but exactly which devices
hasn't been mentioned.
Boston Blackie
This is good news, but Auntie needs to let us in the colonies "listen
again" as well. I can live without TV content, but I really would like
to get radio like I can now on my computer or my wifi radio.
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C. Sowash
On 28-Nov-2008, Boston Blackie <bbla...@mail.com> wrote:
> > The BBC has confirmed that its radio programmes can now be accessed on-
> > demand through the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web page?
If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it?
Adrian C
> If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer loads a special page in the iToy/iPod Touch
and a flash page for the PC.
Only works in the UK, it's Geo-locked.
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Adrian C
Larry
news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzU...@giganews.com:
> Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web
> page?
>
> If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it?
>
Web based.... It's not an app.
I don't understand how you iPhone guys are going to play it. Instead of
booting a Realmedia player real BBC does, it boots a Flash player that
crashes my Nokia N800's Flash 9 player every time. It plays just fine
on the WinXP PC with the latest Flash player on it....a very quick way
to bypass all the webpages to play a BBC channel quickly.
The Realmedia plays fine on my Linux tablet's Realplayer so that doesn't
matter the iplayer crashes it. The BBC channels are stored in my Media
player for bypass access without a web browser at all. Works great.
The Flash player version has great sound, as one would expect from BBC.
I'm listening to Radio 2 on it as I type this. The TV channels are the
ones restricted to UK users ONLY. You get a message:
Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK
only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you. Why?
If you are in the UK and see this message please read this advice.
Go to Radio channels home page
when you try to directly connect to them from outside the UK. However,
you CAN watch BBC TV if you simply have a UK proxy redirector to give
BBC a UK IP to connect the streams to. I hate to miss the Buzzcocks...
(c;
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/told_not_
in_uk
It's a pretty simple IP recognition scheme. (Did I spell Scheme
right??)
Larry
news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzU...@giganews.com:
> Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web
> page?
>
> If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it?
>
You all might try the simple mobile links like:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-
bin/education/betsie/parser.pl/0005/www.bbc.co.uk
/iplayer/bbc_radio_two
...substituting the two for the channel you want instead. This really
quick way to play BBC Radio gets it to a text-only mode. There are
clickable links to all the radio stations from this website, too. I
have it stored on my N800 Linux tablet's bookmarks because I like Radio
2 programmes (note the proper spelling) and this is the quickest mobile
way to get to them, directly.
give that a try and bookmark your fav radio station as a starting point
from this WAP website with the parser.pl.
Hope this gets you what you want. BBC is very complex and sometimes
hard to navigate.
Jon Ribbens
> Web based.... It's not an app.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
>
> I don't understand how you iPhone guys are going to play it.
What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is
standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone.
Click it, watch it. What's the question?
Boston Blackie
> "C. Sowash" <cso...@nospamComcast.net> wrote in
> news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzU...@giganews.com:
>
>> Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web
>> page?
>>
>> If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it?
>>
>
> You all might try the simple mobile links like:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-
> bin/education/betsie/parser.pl/0005/www.bbc.co.uk
> /iplayer/bbc_radio_two
>
>
Pardon my ignorance in this matter but is it possible to use a proxy
server based in the UK to get the iPhone iPlayer and at least listen to
radio? Or will the geo-locator in my own phone inhibit that?
Charles
<jon+u...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is
> standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone.
> Click it, watch it. What's the question?
Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand.
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Charles
Larry
@mac.com:
Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the
majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple,
Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content,
but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. I THINK
I understand why. "They", the carriers, want to prevent, or at least
thwart the average dunce who will accept it, from using BANDWIDTH, which
lowers their profit margins and "they" know "they" cannot deliver such
content to a large audience of paying customers. So, "they" have made
arrangements through "firmware" to disable it if it were available in
the first place, or get their suppliers, such as Apple, Inc., to leave
such popular codecs out of the product in the first place. The result
is only a tiny fraction of the very savvy users have the technical
skills to hack the hobbling to get to the content everyone desires.
It is a terrible waste of content provider resources to have to create
workarounds to this nonsense, such as WAP or special iPhone websites to
pander to these forced limitations. These resources could have been
better spent creating faster servers on wider pipes to deliver better-
looking content to the rest of us.
Boston Blackie
You don't think it has anything to do with the cost of licensing the codecs?
Larry
news:2008113009570950073-bblackie@mailcom:
> You don't think it has anything to do with the cost of licensing the
> codecs?
>
No. Most Codecs they COULD include are free.
Case in point:
http://www.xiph.org/
All those are freeware from the open source community. Check out the
available 2,200 streams playing on them as I type this on Xiph's Icecast
directory. Wish more TV stations would play NSV freeware video streams.
Most all codecs Winamp plays, like these from xiph, are free....
....but, of course, then iphoners would be streaming...which I believe is
FORBIDDEN in the ATT AUP, right?
Adrian C
> Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the
> majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple,
> Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content,
> but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them.
RealMedia = Codec
Windows Media = Codec
Adobe Flash = Container
What's in the Adobe Flash container is the question, it it H264 or is it
not?
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Adrian C
4phun
> Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote in news:301120081032125525%fort514
> @mac.com:
>
> > In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens
Lawrence, I assume that is what your mother called you, when you were
born. My initial thought was she may have said "horse turds" when you
opened your moth there in the hospital.
Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone
that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the
iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and
neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the
iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to
home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap
of the finger.
The iPhone markets itself as more and more people share with others
some of the neat things you can do with it.
Kevin Weaver
"4phun" <vic.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7585f3ba-0e35-4eac...@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
And things you can't do with it. :) And the list keeps getting bigger.
Charles
<kevinkei...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> And things you can't do with it. :) And the list keeps getting bigger.
You are like a broken record. It is hard to take you seriously. Every
day the list of things you can do with the iPhone gets longer.
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Kevin Weaver
"Charles" <for...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:301120081809320912%for...@mac.com...
And the reason it get's bigger is they did not add it to it in the first
place.
If they did at the start, that list would have been very small.
Copy and paste is one. After a year and a half where is it ? It must be on
that long list huh.
Charles
<kevinkei...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Copy and paste is one. After a year and a half where is it ? It must be on
> that long list huh.
Copy and paste would be nice to have but it is not a necessity.
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Charles
Kevin Weaver
For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the iPhone
apps are not a necessity.
Charles
<kevinkei...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the iPhone
> apps are not a necessity.
If copy and paste is a necessity to someone they would not buy an
iPhone.
Are you stupid or are you a troll? Or both?
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Charles
Larry
@mid.individual.net:
> What's in the Adobe Flash container is the question, it it H264 or is it
> not?
>
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> Adrian C
>
>
Whatever word game you like.....
Will it play the FLASH movies and TV for an hour from hulu.com?
If Flash is H264, and iPhone plays H264, hulu will play indefinately.
If it's not, it won't play.
Flash is also the only thing on http://speedtest.knology.net/
That doesn't play on iPhone or Storm...so it doesn't play Flash. Flash is
far more than H264, even if it is H264-based, making your assertion moot.
Who cares what you call it if it DOESN'T PLAY?
Larry
c42b8b...@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
> Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone
> that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the
> iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and
> neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the
> iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to
> home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap
> of the finger.
>
> The iPhone markets itself as more and more people share with others
> some of the neat things you can do with it.
>
>
The childish name calling like the drunks on 75 meters isn't really
necessary. I've never been a "Lawrence", having been named after my
father's best friend who died in his arms against the German Afrika Corp
in World War II. How old are you, 12?
Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT
to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or
otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone
doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the
WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread....
Kevin Weaver
Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport.
Thanks for playing.
Charles
<kevinkei...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport.
> Thanks for playing.
You don't care about truth. You are a troll.
<PLONK>
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nospam
<no...@home.com> wrote:
> > Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone
> > that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the
> > iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and
> > neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the
> > iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to
> > home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap
> > of the finger.
>
> Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT
> to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or
> otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone
> doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the
> WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread....
wrong.
just as he said, there are quite a few apps available for a standard,
off the shelf, non-jailbroken iphone that will stream thousands of
radio stations. one of them, wunder radio, not only streams broadcast
radio, but also streams weather radio and police scanner radio (from
scanamerica.us).
there are also video streaming apps, including a forthcoming one from
sling that will connect with a slingbox.
Kevin Weaver
I love it when you lose you just plonk that person. You made my day. : )
Adrian C
> Whatever word game you like.....
Scrabble :0)
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George Kerby
On 11/30/08 8:08 PM, in article 301120081808591696%nos...@nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Don't try to confuse Lar with facts now. He's down at the Waffle House
fantasizing about Mabel, the head waitress. He imagines his head encircled
by her freshly starched apron as she hand-feeds him buttermilk pancakes
dripping with honey. Yummy!
Todd Allcock
> > For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the
> >iPhone apps are not a necessity.
>
> If copy and paste is a necessity to someone they would not buy an
> iPhone.
That's not fair- all devices have trade-offs. Many people, I'd guess, put
up with the iPhone's annoying limitations in order to use what they like
about it.
The iPhone's strengths, however, don't make it's limitations any less
annoying.
Charles
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> That's not fair- all devices have trade-offs. Many people, I'd guess, put
> up with the iPhone's annoying limitations in order to use what they like
> about it.
>
> The iPhone's strengths, however, don't make it's limitations any less
> annoying.
It is fair. If a feature is a necessity you should not buy it. I waited
until the iPhone had 3g because that was a necessity to me. And I am
glad I waited. If you buy it anyway don't complain it is missing
something that one considers a necessity. There is a difference between
necessities and limitations. Limitations......yes we would like to see
them changed but we can live with them. A necessity is something you
have to have.
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