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John Navas

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Sep 27, 2009, 2:48:04 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:58:37 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in <8ZLvm.22009$6f4....@newsfe08.iad>:

>At 23 Sep 2009 09:08:48 -0400 News wrote:
>
>> I have not heard complaints about 3G modem use (throughput, latency) by
>> laptop users, so the issue would appear to be confined to iPhone use.
>>
>> Just why that appears to be the case would be interesting to understand.
>
>Presumably, AT&T is smart enough to prioritize data usage by plan/device.
>A $60/month laptop card user gets to go to the head of the data line, while
>iPhones, by virture of their $30 plan cost, go to the back.

AFAIK the data prioritization done by AT&T Mobility is:

1. Data Plan over MEdia Net, but only at the network level, not at the
air interface.

2. Throttling of heavy users, but again only at the network level, not
at the air interface.

At the air interface, voice is almost certainly given priority over any
type of data.

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If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?

John Blutarsky

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Sep 27, 2009, 6:02:59 PM9/27/09
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John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:rkcvb51tho9jvdfuo...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:58:37 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
> <8ZLvm.22009$6f4....@newsfe08.iad>:
>
>>At 23 Sep 2009 09:08:48 -0400 News wrote:
>>
>>> I have not heard complaints about 3G modem use (throughput, latency)
>>> by laptop users, so the issue would appear to be confined to iPhone
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Just why that appears to be the case would be interesting to
>>> understand.
>>
>>Presumably, AT&T is smart enough to prioritize data usage by
>>plan/device. A $60/month laptop card user gets to go to the head of
>>the data line, while iPhones, by virture of their $30 plan cost, go to
>>the back.
>
> AFAIK the data prioritization done by AT&T Mobility is:
>
> 1. Data Plan over MEdia Net, but only at the network level, not at the
> air interface.
>
> 2. Throttling of heavy users, but again only at the network level, not
> at the air interface.
>
> At the air interface, voice is almost certainly given priority over
> any type of data.
>

Cite?

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News

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Sep 27, 2009, 7:01:35 PM9/27/09
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9C93A34BA12...@188.40.43.213>,
> Yeah, in your dreams. Cut and run.

Fire and forget...

John Navas

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Sep 27, 2009, 9:23:47 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:02:59 +0000 (UTC), John Blutarsky
<bl...@faber.com> wrote in
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>Cite?

I wouldn't want to deprive you of the pleasure of doing your own
homework. ;)

nospam

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Sep 27, 2009, 10:04:47 PM9/27/09
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In article <3040c59ko3lqgha2k...@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Cite?
>
> I wouldn't want to deprive you of the pleasure of doing your own
> homework. ;)

you made the claim, you back it up.

John Navas

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Sep 27, 2009, 10:14:12 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:04:47 -0700, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <270920091904472892%nos...@nospam.invalid>:

I made no claim. Learn how to read.

nospam

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Sep 27, 2009, 10:39:29 PM9/27/09
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In article <2v60c5t43oqnsmusg...@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> I made no claim. Learn how to read.

learn how to not to be insulting (if that's even possible), and you're
the one that could learn how to read. i noticed you skipped out of the
lens adapter thread when i caught you making yet another gaff.

John Navas

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Sep 27, 2009, 10:40:33 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:39:29 -0700, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <270920091939297858%nos...@nospam.invalid>:

How childish. Grow up.

nospam

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Sep 27, 2009, 10:56:27 PM9/27/09
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In article <fg80c5d358112j83p...@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> I made no claim. Learn how to read.
> >
> >learn how to not to be insulting (if that's even possible), and you're
> >the one that could learn how to read. i noticed you skipped out of the
> >lens adapter thread when i caught you making yet another gaff.
>
> How childish. Grow up.

in other words, you can't admit you're ever wrong. it is not i who
needs to do some growing up.

John Navas

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Sep 27, 2009, 11:56:36 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:56:27 -0700, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <270920091956278912%nos...@nospam.invalid>:

That the best you can do?

kevinkei...@sbcglobal.net

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Sep 28, 2009, 9:05:55 AM9/28/09
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>In other words, I just made this crap up. :)


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Not Me

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:18:28 PM9/29/09
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kevin...@teranews.com wrote:
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>
> "John Navas" <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:3040c59ko3lqgha2k...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:02:59 +0000 (UTC), John Blutarsky
>> <bl...@faber.com> wrote in
>> <Xns9C93A34BA12...@188.40.43.213>:
>>
>>> Cite?
>>
>> I wouldn't want to deprive you of the pleasure of doing your own
>> homework. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> John <http:/navasgroup.com>
>>
>> If the iPhone is really so impressive,
>> why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>> signature database 4462 (20090927) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
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>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>> In other words, I just made this crap up. :)

Par for the course.

Kurt

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Oct 1, 2009, 7:40:01 PM10/1/09
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In article <0uKdnV9cCaJvIl_X...@speakeasy.net>,
Not Me <Not...@Home.Base> wrote:

Speaking of doing the homework, do a Google search for John Navas and
see what comes up second. LOL

One way to make yourself famous. The girls dig it.

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