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Phil Schuman

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Jul 21, 2003, 10:55:21 AM7/21/03
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We were at a friend's house for dinner,
and he showed me how he checks his email
on AT&T Wireless - the GPRS version -
It was pretty painless, using only menu nav clicks,
and NO keyboard entry of ANY email info -
1 - he connected and went to the web interface
2 - scrolled down his "favorites" and clicked
on his URL for ATT mobile email
3 - his list of inbox msgs appeared

Now these msgs I believe were actually pulled
from his ISP POP3 mailbox,
and his ATT "service" grabbed them,
as you can do with several online web services.

I was wondering where and how this is setup on ATT,
so that no ID or password is required via keyboard,
and also defining a POP3 mailbox to retrieve.
Do the other wireless carriers also have this capability
of easy email retrieval with NO keyboard entry of an ID or password -
It seemed really smooth and easy -

Phil -


Joel Raskin

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Jul 21, 2003, 11:30:19 AM7/21/03
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It may have more to do with how his software is configured than with his
carrier. I'm now using a Kyocera 7135 on VZW and I configured the
Eudora app that comes preinstalled to log into my Pop account and
retrieve mail. I have the option of storing the password or being
prompted to enter it. I can send and receive email this way, without
the need for keyboard entry of my account info.

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=====================


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John Navas

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Jul 21, 2003, 1:02:44 PM7/21/03
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In <bfgurr$3tp$1...@bob.news.rcn.net> on Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:55:21 -0500, "Phil
Schuman" <pschuman_...@interserv.com> wrote:

This is done by configuring everything (including the userid and password, a
major security/privacy compromise!) on the website (typically with a web
browser on a personal computer). Cingular has a similar capability.

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Jeff Wilhelm

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Jul 21, 2003, 1:16:45 PM7/21/03
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you can do that with sprint as well through "check external service" on the
pcs mail site or via sprint pcs business connection.

Jeff


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John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)

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Jul 21, 2003, 1:38:31 PM7/21/03
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Although I wouild much rather be a Verizon customer...

I do the same thing Joel does with SprintPCS.


On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:30:19 -0000, jr...@jraskin.com (Joel Raskin) wrote:

>It may have more to do with how his software is configured than with his
>carrier. I'm now using a Kyocera 7135 on VZW and I configured the
>Eudora app that comes preinstalled to log into my Pop account and
>retrieve mail. I have the option of storing the password or being
>prompted to enter it. I can send and receive email this way, without
>the need for keyboard entry of my account info.
>

>"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_...@interserv.com> wrote in article


><bfgurr$3tp$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>:
>> We were at a friend's house for dinner,
>> and he showed me how he checks his email
>> on AT&T Wireless - the GPRS version -
>> It was pretty painless, using only menu nav clicks,
>> and NO keyboard entry of ANY email info -
>> 1 - he connected and went to the web interface
>> 2 - scrolled down his "favorites" and clicked
>> on his URL for ATT mobile email
>> 3 - his list of inbox msgs appeared
>>
>> Now these msgs I believe were actually pulled
>> from his ISP POP3 mailbox,
>> and his ATT "service" grabbed them,
>> as you can do with several online web services.
>>
>> I was wondering where and how this is setup on ATT,
>> so that no ID or password is required via keyboard,
>> and also defining a POP3 mailbox to retrieve.
>> Do the other wireless carriers also have this capability
>> of easy email retrieval with NO keyboard entry of an ID or password -
>> It seemed really smooth and easy -
>>
>> Phil -
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Phil Schuman

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Jul 21, 2003, 2:58:33 PM7/21/03
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"Jeff Wilhelm" <jwil...@postoffice.uri.edu> wrote in message
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> you can do that with sprint as well through "check external service"
on the
> pcs mail site or via sprint pcs business connection.
>
> Jeff

it's not so much of the "check external mail",
it's the getting to the email system merely via menu clicks
without having to enter an userID or password -
The old "web access" solutions allowed you to get to a webmail system,
but actually trying to enter a userID and other info via the phone
keypad
was a nightmare -
So, I'm wondering if it's easier in general today than before for folks,
or only for the extra 2.5G or 3G systems like GPRS on ATT,
or the Vision on Sprint, etc...
Phil -


Jeff Wilhelm

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Jul 21, 2003, 3:24:17 PM7/21/03
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Well I can't speak for other users or providers, but I have no problem
clicking Messagin -> Business Connection -> Inbox and checking my mail (it
saves the login and password so you don't have to enter it). And it's
similarly easy to do by going Messaging -> PCS Mail -> Check External Mail
(which also saves your login preferences).

Jeff


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Joshua Csepegi

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Jul 21, 2003, 4:03:40 PM7/21/03
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you know you guy's are crying about some of the weirdest things.
how about this you have quick notes in your phone right. Use them. I do
It makes a world of difference in logging into AOL mobile. oh and by the
way I have a 720 it has 15 stored quick notes and I can make more.
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Josh Csepegi
Sr. Sales Representative
Freedom Wireless
Verizon Wireless Agents

The opinions expressed here are the opinions of Joshua Csepegi These
opinions in no way are the thoughts, opinions, or business decisions of
Freedom wireless or Verizon wireless.


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Phil Schuman

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Jul 21, 2003, 4:39:19 PM7/21/03
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thanks -
BTW - you might mention which cellular carrier,
and type of service ala GSM, GPRS, Vision, etc...
since the menu items may not be consistent across all carriers -

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John Navas

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Jul 21, 2003, 5:48:09 PM7/21/03
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In <bfhd4r$nm$1...@bob.news.rcn.net> on Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:58:33 -0500, "Phil
Schuman" <pschuman_...@interserv.com> wrote:

Get a phone with an email client, and you can do everything from the phone
with just a few clicks.

John Navas

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Jul 21, 2003, 5:46:52 PM7/21/03
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In <vhohose...@corp.supernews.com> on Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:03:40 -0000,
joshc...@hotmail.com (Joshua Csepegi) wrote:

>you know you guy's are crying about some of the weirdest things.


>how about this you have quick notes in your phone right. Use them. I do
>It makes a world of difference in logging into AOL mobile. oh and by the
>way I have a 720 it has 15 stored quick notes and I can make more.

This thread is about Internet email access, not AOL, not messaging.

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RonInCal

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Jul 22, 2003, 1:09:03 AM7/22/03
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Hi!

I can do this both with Sprint PCS (CDMA) and T-Mobile (GSM) phones!

Thanks!

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Eric

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Jul 22, 2003, 10:09:27 AM7/22/03
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How do you setup email for tmobile? I have a Treo 270 that I have had for
two days and cannot get email to work.

Eric

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Bob

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Jul 22, 2003, 12:01:48 PM7/22/03
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Why are you asking about ATTWS on Nextel NG?

Oh well-if you had NOL premium you could use

phonefish.com
web based (free) -pop e-mail web site.

I can check my e-mail by pressing 4 buttons -going to
net-bookmarks-phonefish (have to save this bookmark)-then one more click on
mail account. All logon info is saved at web site. Set it up your on PC then
log on from phone.

Yahoo mail also works great if you want to check your yahoo mail.

This is not rocket science - only a generic pop e-mail client on a wap
phone.
All safe and password protected and it uses your cell phone number to logon.
Again you will need NOL premium or a way to go to web sites and save
bookmarks.

Bob

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John Navas

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Jul 22, 2003, 12:09:45 PM7/22/03
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In <MddTa.79320$ye5.13...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> on Tue, 22 Jul 2003


16:01:48 GMT, "Bob" <b...@NOSPAM.NET> wrote:

>Oh well-if you had NOL premium you could use
>
>phonefish.com
>web based (free) -pop e-mail web site.
>
>I can check my e-mail by pressing 4 buttons -going to
>net-bookmarks-phonefish (have to save this bookmark)-then one more click on
>mail account. All logon info is saved at web site. Set it up your on PC then
>log on from phone.
>
>Yahoo mail also works great if you want to check your yahoo mail.
>
>This is not rocket science - only a generic pop e-mail client on a wap
>phone.
>All safe and password protected and it uses your cell phone number to logon.

>...

Actually not "safe" at all, since your userid and password have been given to
that site. When Internet sites can't even keep credit card information
secure, what makes you think your userid and password are secure?!

The only way to have real security is to have the email client on your phone,
and use some form of secure authentication.

John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)

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Jul 22, 2003, 12:30:59 PM7/22/03
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:02:44 GMT, John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com>
wrote:

Fortunbately, you don't have to put up with major security compromises with
Verizon or SprintPCS.

The configuration resides in the PDAphone within the Eudora (or other)
email software. You don't have to surrender your password, and can require
submitting it every time you log in (or not, if you wish).

The Sprint and Verizon Palmphone can be secured with weak security
(standard) or strong security (reasonable-cost option), plus the security
of having the phone in your possession.

Phil Schuman

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Jul 22, 2003, 12:36:50 PM7/22/03
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"Bob" <b...@NOSPAM.NET> wrote in message
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> Why are you asking about ATTWS on Nextel NG?
>
> Oh well-if you had NOL premium you could use
>
> phonefish.com
> web based (free) -pop e-mail web site.

I'm trying to understand what is possible
for some of our company users - using all different phones -
to be on different carriers,
and what is dictated by the carrier
and is possible based upon which type of service you have,
along with the capabilities required on the phone -
ie -
you MUST have the premium service to enable Internet access,
AND a WAP phone vs an older HDML or non-wap phone,
AND use an outside service since the carrier has nothing,
AND be able to store the userID/password at the website...

John Navas

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Jul 22, 2003, 2:46:26 PM7/22/03
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In <3f1d649e...@News.CIS.DFN.DE> on Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:30:59 GMT,


6212hgk{invert}@newsguy.com (John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)) wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:02:44 GMT, John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com>
>wrote:

>>This is done by configuring everything (including the userid and password, a


>>major security/privacy compromise!) on the website (typically with a web
>>browser on a personal computer). Cingular has a similar capability.
>
>Fortunbately, you don't have to put up with major security compromises with
>Verizon or SprintPCS.
>
>The configuration resides in the PDAphone within the Eudora (or other)
>email software. You don't have to surrender your password, and can require
>submitting it every time you log in (or not, if you wish).
>
>The Sprint and Verizon Palmphone can be secured with weak security
>(standard) or strong security (reasonable-cost option), plus the security
>of having the phone in your possession.

The same is true on GSM with a phone that has an email client, as in the case
of the phones I use. It's best when the phone (or PDA) has secure
authentication, so that your userid and password aren't being sent in clear
text.

RTeodiuhg

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Jul 23, 2003, 7:12:52 AM7/23/03
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Pop in the CD that came with your Treo. There is a configuration menu to set
up for email. I think you'll use the "One-touch" email program they had.
Use the computer you are retrieving your POP email so it will automatically
setup the settings.

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John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)

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Jul 23, 2003, 12:46:14 PM7/23/03
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:46:26 GMT, John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com>
wrote:

>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <3f1d649e...@News.CIS.DFN.DE> on Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:30:59 GMT,
>6212hgk{invert}@newsguy.com (John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:02:44 GMT, John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>This is done by configuring everything (including the userid and password, a
>>>major security/privacy compromise!) on the website (typically with a web
>>>browser on a personal computer). Cingular has a similar capability.
>>
>>Fortunbately, you don't have to put up with major security compromises with
>>Verizon or SprintPCS.
>>
>>The configuration resides in the PDAphone within the Eudora (or other)
>>email software. You don't have to surrender your password, and can require
>>submitting it every time you log in (or not, if you wish).
>>
>>The Sprint and Verizon Palmphone can be secured with weak security
>>(standard) or strong security (reasonable-cost option), plus the security
>>of having the phone in your possession.
>
>The same is true on GSM with a phone that has an email client, as in the case
>of the phones I use. It's best when the phone (or PDA) has secure
>authentication, so that your userid and password aren't being sent in clear
>text.

Yep. He's absolutely correct.

Franz Blaha & Linda Rossiter

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Jul 23, 2003, 2:54:18 PM7/23/03
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Sorry to be so dense, John N. et. al., but could you tell me which ATTWS
phones "have e-mail clients" and how one "finds" (and configures them) on
the menu. If there is a reference to a source, no long explanation per
posting is required.

Regards,

Franz
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John Navas

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In <lPATa.39238$6a3.6...@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com> on Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:54:18


-0500, "Franz Blaha & Linda Rossiter" <fbl...@neb.rr.com> wrote:

>Sorry to be so dense, John N. et. al., but could you tell me which ATTWS
>phones "have e-mail clients" and how one "finds" (and configures them) on
>the menu. If there is a reference to a source, no long explanation per
>posting is required.

Sony Ericsson T68i for sure.
Nokia 2260 is supposed to have it.

Bid4Survival

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Jul 23, 2003, 6:40:56 PM7/23/03
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https://nextelmobile.wirelessinbox.com/en_us/wml/home.jsp

you have to be signed up with mynextel, then use your users name a password
and you can check all your pop3 account with this site. Use NetAlert to send
the site to your phone.


John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)

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Jul 23, 2003, 7:10:21 PM7/23/03
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All the PDA phones have them; the Palm TungstenW, forex.
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