Anyone know where one can buy an ocelot?
someone
I have been researching the net and decided that I would
like to own an ocelot.. Does anyone know where I can buy one?
Or of a breeder? Any info would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks,
Zeus,
Karen
Karen
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someone
I just want to know where to get one..
Whats a troll post KAREN???
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Joshua Rosenblatt
Hey Zeus..
Actually, there is one on EBAY right now actually.. and is he a cutie!!!
check it out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=546628001
good luck on the bidding-
Joshua
someone
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Joshua Rosenblatt
Why would you want a real, live, wild Ocelot???
Have you considered an Ocicat? It's a hybrid between donmestic and wild..and
I am sure that although not the ideal domestic companion, it would be a much
better addition to yourf amily than a wild Ocelot.
my 2¢,
Joshua
Gerry
the bottom of his posts). A Bengal is a hybrid between an Asian Leopard Cat
and a domestic cat. You can see mine at http://photos.yahoo.com/rose_dahlia
Unlike ocelots, they can be tamed like a regular cat and use litter boxes
but still look like a wildcat. What more could you ask for? You also don't
need to conform to special regulations and licensing as you would if you had
a true ocelot. And Bengals have *very* interesting personalities and offer
hours of entertainment each day. Something for you to consider.
Gerry
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Joshua Rosenblatt
Great cats.
Joshua
someone
Thanks guy's..
Bengal and Ocicats, hmmm
I'll look into it, but it's not a man's cat if you know what I mean..
How do Bengal's and Ocicats react? Are they wild in nature,
or are they tame and docile? do they eat live prey? Cna you guys provide
more
info?
Thanks again, you have both been very helpful.
;)
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Joshua Rosenblatt
>
> I never knew such a feline existed.
> Thanks guy's..
>
> Bengal and Ocicats, hmmm
> I'll look into it, but it's not a man's cat if you know what I mean..
> How do Bengal's and Ocicats react? Are they wild in nature,
> or are they tame and docile? do they eat live prey? Cna you guys provide
> more
> info?
> Thanks again, you have both been very helpful.
No problem... but please explain exactly *why* you want a wild cat....
Bengals and Ocicats are new hybrid breeds but ade definitely not considered
wild.... they ARE domesticated cats.
As for prey drive, most cats (of any breed) have it and will hunt for rodents
and birds etc. Any kitten from the pound should be able to manage that. I am
trying to grasp what it is you are after in an ocelot.
Be sure to check out the bengals and ocicats though... they are very beautiful
and (speaking from my experience with Bengals, at leat) make wonderful
companions too.
Joshua
Gerry
> I never knew such a feline existed.
> Thanks guy's..
>
> Bengal and Ocicats, hmmm
> I'll look into it, but it's not a man's cat if you know what I mean..
> How do Bengal's and Ocicats react? Are they wild in nature,
> or are they tame and docile? do they eat live prey? Cna you guys provide
> more
> info?
> Thanks again, you have both been very helpful.
Depends what you consider a man's cat. If you think the Ocelot who will be
pooping on your bed and hiding under it the rest of the time is a man's cat,
well then ;-)
Ocelots are terribly shy, and not very good about litter boxes. They tend
to poop where ever they are (especially higher places and humacks, which
explains it. It's a marking thing.
A Bengal on the other hand is a very active, bold cat who is somewhat puppy
like and follows you around everywhere. You can harness train them, they
like water, and are just plain weird! And you don't need a degree in animal
science to own one. But I'd definitely reconsider the Ocelot. There is
*NO* way you would allow a wildcat to roam where it could kill other animals
anyway, let alone a Bengal (which at best will be stolen or adopted very
quickly). And the insurance gets kinda high. If you go for the ocelot,
ensure you have the best lawyer in town.
Gerry
Sherry Riddles
>Bengals and Ocicats are new hybrid breeds but ade definitely not considered
>wild.... they ARE domesticated cats.
>
>As for prey drive, most cats (of any breed) have it and will hunt for rodents
>and birds etc. Any kitten from the pound should be able to manage that. I am
>trying to grasp what it is you are after in an ocelot.
>
>Be sure to check out the bengals and ocicats though... they are very
>beautiful
>and (speaking from my experience with Bengals, at leat) make wonderful
>companions too.
I really don't mean to offend anyone, but wild cats simply aren't meant to be
pets. The statement "a man's cat", concerns me. I would hope anyone who
acquires a wild cat has done much research, and is doing it for the love of the
breed, not for a status symbol.
Sherry
>
>Joshua
>
>--
>http://community.webshots.com/user/pokrsmokr
>
>
>
>
>
>
Joshua Rosenblatt
No offense taken here... at all. In fact I can't imagine why anyone would
want a wild cat (or dog etc) to begin with -they aren't pets. As Gerry
alluded, the thought of a "pet" spending all of it's time mistrustful of me is
not my idea of a good companion. Hopefully the original poster jsut hadn't
thought it through and isn't after a status symbol...
Joshua
someone
can be litter trained etc.....
They are house pets. In fact there was a breeder about 2 yrs ago in northern
Ontario
who was selling them already trained for 300$ a cat.
They are nice looking cats, and I like them,
Is that a good enough reason.....?
I shouldn't of posted here, and I don't think I will come back.
Thanks to Joshua and Gerry.
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Joshua Rosenblatt
>
> I want an Ocelot because they are tameable and
> can be litter trained etc.....
> They are house pets. In fact there was a breeder about 2 yrs ago in northern
> Ontario
> who was selling them already trained for 300$ a cat.
> They are nice looking cats, and I like them,
> Is that a good enough reason.....?
> I shouldn't of posted here, and I don't think I will come back.
> Thanks to Joshua and Gerry.
No that's NOT a good enough reason. You are about to make a LONG commitment
to whatever cat you get (wild or domestic). Think LONG and HARd about it -
they are NOT DISPOSABLE.
The best advice I can give you is to continue doing research of Ocelots and
other breeds (domestic especially). Also, grow some thicker skin.
Good luck,
Joshua
Gerry
> I want an Ocelot because they are tameable and
> can be litter trained etc.....
> They are house pets. In fact there was a breeder about 2 yrs ago in
northern
> Ontario
> who was selling them already trained for 300$ a cat.
> They are nice looking cats, and I like them,
> Is that a good enough reason.....?
> I shouldn't of posted here, and I don't think I will come back.
> Thanks to Joshua and Gerry.
No they do not retain they're litter training as they get older. I know
someone who does breed Ocelots (and other restricted and endangered
wildcats). She breeds for zoos and sells these animals for $3,500 Canadian
to qualified and licensed establishments. And yes, I live in Ontario!
Bye. We will miss ya!
Gerry
Gerry
"Joshua Rosenblatt" <Jos...@Rosenblatt.com> wrote in message
Well at least we don't have to worry about this person getting an Ocelot.
Legally they're $3,500 here, plus government licensing. And the government
only issues licenses after on premisis inspection while checking off a large
list of requirements. That's *after* filling out the hundred forms in
triplicate for three levels of government and waiting 6 months ;-)
You know what $300 CDN is in American money? I could have bought Suma's
tail for that much! LOL
Gerry
Someone
????????
Why would you have to worry about this person getting a cat you freak!
Get a life and worry about your health, world hunger, ozone destruction,
terrorists etc...
Pathetic.
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Gerry
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> {Well at least we don't have to worry about this person getting an
Ocelot.}
>
> ????????
> Why would you have to worry about this person getting a cat you freak!
> Get a life and worry about your health, world hunger, ozone destruction,
> terrorists etc...
>
> Pathetic.
Hey didn't you leave yet?
Freaking happy with my purr pals...
Gerry
Karen McGill
Nor should they be bred for private homes. Please get a domestic cat if
you really want a cat. People taking wild animals out of the wild only
leads to trouble for that species. Thank you for taking my opinion into
consideration... :)
val189
ocelot once in a while. Had the poor thing on a chain, but still could
barely control him/her. It scared the s**t out of the rest of the
customers and upleasant words were often exchanged.
Personally, I think it should be against the law - there are enough
domesticated pets out there waiting for homes.
Val
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Gerry
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> I used to work in a public office where a customer would bring in an
> ocelot once in a while. Had the poor thing on a chain, but still could
> barely control him/her. It scared the s**t out of the rest of the
> customers and upleasant words were often exchanged.
>
> Personally, I think it should be against the law - there are enough
> domesticated pets out there waiting for homes.
Actually, in the state of Georgia there is a law against it under all
circumstances. Elsewhere in the US and Canada, the law provides for limited
keeping of certain animals such as Ocelots if strict license requirements
are met by up to a full three levels of government, which normally also
involves inspection. I wanted to keep a pheasant once I had recovered after
sewing it up after it got hit by a car. They had strict size, shelter, and
other care requirements that had to be verified first hand for Provincial
licensing. I did let it go eventually though when I thought it was well
enough to survive (kept it throughout the winter). But that's a whole other
story.
Gerry
Bob Brenchley.
In the UK there is such a law. He would be able to keep such an animal
provided he met some very rigid guidelines, but the vet would go to
him, not the other way round.
--
Bob.
Now enjoying the new millennium which started on January 1st 2001.
NY WRITER
once in a while. Had the poor thing on a chain, but still could barely control
him/her. It scared the s**t out of the rest of the customers and upleasant
words were often exchanged.>
Did you or anyone else at the job call the ASPCA or similar organization? In
many states, it's against the law to have an exotic/wild animal in one's house.
Gerry
"Bob Brenchley." <B...@Format.Publications.ukf.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:35:10 GMT, val189 <val...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >I used to work in a public office where a customer would bring in an
> >ocelot once in a while. Had the poor thing on a chain, but still could
> >barely control him/her. It scared the s**t out of the rest of the
> >customers and upleasant words were often exchanged.
> >
> >Personally, I think it should be against the law - there are enough
> >domesticated pets out there waiting for homes.
> >
> >Val
> >
> In the UK there is such a law. He would be able to keep such an animal
> provided he met some very rigid guidelines, but the vet would go to
> him, not the other way round.
I guess the UK hasn't progressed as much as many US states in this regard,
especially states like Georgia where the keeping of wild animals (and a list
of certain hybrids) is illegal by private citizens without exception.
Additionally, the ocelot is classified as Endangered by both Canadian and US
federal law and importation is illegal in both countries. In those areas
that still allow licensing for keeping ocelots, it is necessary to supply
proof that the animal was breed in the country in captivity in addition to
meeting very strict guidelines.
Perhaps if you work with your government Bob, you have a chance at changing
things over there too.
ps. The ocelot is not social either ;-)
Gerry
Alla Segal
According to http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/ocicat.html
the breed originates from interbreeding of Abyssinian, Siamese and
American Shorthair, and is the only spotted domestic breed selectively
bred to emulate the cats of the wild.
As far as keeping a wild cat goes - there was this famous family of
animal trainers in the old USSR in the 1970s. They kept a lion as a pet
in a Moscow apartment. At some point there was a disagreement between a
lion and a member of the family. Didn't end well for the family.
Alla
Joshua Rosenblatt
>
> Actually Ocicat is not a wild-domestic cross. Bengal is.
> According to http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/ocicat.html
> the breed originates from interbreeding of Abyssinian, Siamese and
> American Shorthair, and is the only spotted domestic breed selectively
> bred to emulate the cats of the wild.
I stand corrected, thanks. I thought the Ocicat was a hybrid as well...
>
> As far as keeping a wild cat goes - there was this famous family of
> animal trainers in the old USSR in the 1970s. They kept a lion as a pet
> in a Moscow apartment. At some point there was a disagreement between a
> lion and a member of the family. Didn't end well for the family.
I imagine not. I know in Florida (Miami especially) it is a status symbol to
own wild cats.... most situations end up poorly for the cats.. as they get
older they are kept in cages and often released into the 'wilds of florida'. Sad.
> Alla
>
> Joshua Rosenblatt wrote:
> >
> > someone wrote:
> > >
> > > I never knew such a feline existed.
> > > Thanks guy's..
> > >
> > > Bengal and Ocicats, hmmm
> > > I'll look into it, but it's not a man's cat if you know what I mean..
> > > How do Bengal's and Ocicats react? Are they wild in nature,
> > > or are they tame and docile? do they eat live prey? Cna you guys provide
> > > more
> > > info?
> > > Thanks again, you have both been very helpful.
> >
> > No problem... but please explain exactly *why* you want a wild cat....
> > Bengals and Ocicats are new hybrid breeds but ade definitely not considered
> > wild.... they ARE domesticated cats.
> >
> > As for prey drive, most cats (of any breed) have it and will hunt for rodents
> > and birds etc. Any kitten from the pound should be able to manage that. I am
> > trying to grasp what it is you are after in an ocelot.
> >
> > Be sure to check out the bengals and ocicats though... they are very beautiful
> > and (speaking from my experience with Bengals, at leat) make wonderful
> > companions too.
> >
> > Joshua
> >
> > --
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/pokrsmokr
Bob Brenchley.
We don't need to. The laws are fairly comprehensive. Yes, a private
person could own a wild animal, but the restrictions mean it only
happens when someone really knows what they are doing.
--
Bob.
If you ate pasta and anti pasta, would you still be hungry?
Ystbybtatr
> I guess the UK hasn't progressed as much as many US states in this
regard,
> especially states like Georgia where the keeping of wild animals (and a
list
> of certain hybrids) is illegal by private citizens without exception.
> Additionally, the ocelot is classified as Endangered by both Canadian and
US
> federal law and importation is illegal in both countries. In those areas
> that still allow licensing for keeping ocelots, it is necessary to supply
> proof that the animal was breed in the country in captivity in addition
to
> meeting very strict guidelines.
>
> Perhaps if you work with your government Bob, you have a chance at
changing
> things over there too.
>
You consider the increase of government power and micromanagement of
people's lives progress?!?! Jeez!
--
Ystbybtatr
"Some people post top. Some people post bottom.
Usenet is anarchy. Deal with it."
( ystbybtatr AT email DOT com )
Gerry
"Ystbybtatr" <ystby...@email.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > I guess the UK hasn't progressed as much as many US states in this
> regard,
> > especially states like Georgia where the keeping of wild animals (and a
> list
> > of certain hybrids) is illegal by private citizens without exception.
> > Additionally, the ocelot is classified as Endangered by both Canadian
and
> US
> > federal law and importation is illegal in both countries. In those
areas
> > that still allow licensing for keeping ocelots, it is necessary to
supply
> > proof that the animal was breed in the country in captivity in addition
> to
> > meeting very strict guidelines.
> >
> > Perhaps if you work with your government Bob, you have a chance at
> changing
> > things over there too.
> >
>
> You consider the increase of government power and micromanagement of
> people's lives progress?!?! Jeez!
Depends on the laws. There are present laws I don't agree with. However,
uncontrolled importing, exploitation, and the keeping of endangered wildcats
without control isn't something that I think would be desirable. Do you?
Gerry
Alla Segal
> own wild cats.... most situations end up poorly for the cats.. as they > get
> older they are kept in cages and often released into the 'wilds of > florida'. Sad.
remember) members of the family - whoever was at home at the time didn't
survive. There were a couple of explanations of the reason - one was
that while the head of the family was alive the lion considered him the
top cat. After the father died, the lion thought that it should be the
head of the pack, but the son thought otherwise. Another version of the
story mentioned the owners bringing in a female lion in a cage - theirs
was an unneutered male (I was told all neighbors complained of the
smell). Since there were no human survivors of the incident, it is
difficult to know what had transpired. People who went into the
apartment after the incident said the scene was really gruesome.
This family, Berberovs, were famous, and this was their second lion,
King II. Their first lion, King, was famous in the USSR - it played in
then popular Russian movie "The incredible adventures of Italians in
Russia". "King" was killed by a policeman during filming of either this
or another movie: the policeman was walking by a house where the lion
was staying and misinterpreted the play between the cat and the trainer.
The lion was on top of the man, so the policeman thought he saw an
attack and shot the lion. I was a child at the time and I remember how
upset we all were when we read about it in the papers.
My guess is King II was killed as well.
Ystbybtatr
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Yes, I think freedom is desirable.
Gerry
Wow, even the most pure of republicans would think this kid is a nut! ;-)
Your parents should be better supervising your activities. Hope they
blocked the dirty newsgroups from ya.
Gerry
Ystbybtatr
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think freedom is desirable.
>
> Wow, even the most pure of republicans would think this kid is a nut! ;-)
>
> Your parents should be better supervising your activities. Hope they
> blocked the dirty newsgroups from ya.
>
My parents live two hours away from me, so they are powerless to censor my
pro-freedom views. Bwahahahaha!
But seriously, I feel that it is criminal to commit violence against people
without provocation. More to the point, it is always criminal under all
circumstances to commit violence against people without provocation,
regardless of whether those committing the violence are independently
minded 'street thugs' or large organizations operating under the guise of
consent of a majority of the population (i.e. government).
Here are some examples, and keep in mind that the same standard applies to
both government employees and to private citizens acting independently.
Examples of non-consensual criminal acts:
1) It is a criminal act to physically assault someone without physical
provocation.
2) It is a criminal act to take possession of (i.e. steal) someone else's
property without that other person's consent.
3) It is a criminal act to use (i.e. trespass) on someone else's property
without that other person's consent.
4) It is a criminal act to alter (i.e. vandalize) someone else's property
without that other person's consent.
Examples of consensual non-criminal acts:
1) It is permissible to defend one's self from physical assault.
2) It is permissible to assist another person in their self defense from
physical assault (this is an example of an appropriate role of government).
3) It is permissible to take possession of someone else's property with
that other person's consent. That consent can take many forms. That
consent can be a verbally stated gift or sale. That consent can be in the
more formal form of a sales receipt. That consent can be in the form of a
loan contract in which the borrower pledged property to the lender, and the
borrower defaulted on the loan, and the lender is seizing the property per
the consent of the borrower as given in the contract. It is permissible to
assist another person in collecting their property from another person
(this is another example of an appropriate role of government).
4) It is permissible for one person to consensually trade his honestly
acquired property with another consenting person for their honestly
acquired property.
5) It is permissible for one person to consensually trade his labor with
another consenting person for their honestly acquired property.
6) It is permissible for one person to consensually trade his honestly
acquired property with another consenting person for their labor.
5) It is permissible for one person to consensually trade his labor with
another consenting person for their labor.
6) It is permissible to for one person to participate in any activity,
regardless of how hazardous, dangerous, or reckless that activity is to
himself.
7) It is permissible to for two or more people to mutually and consensually
participate in any activity, regardless of how hazardous, dangerous, or
reckless that activity is to themselves.
8) It is permissible for any person to create or draft any statement,
image, or any other form of expression whatsoever, and to publish that
expression in any medium whatsoever (provided that the he bears the expense
of said publishing; "free speech" does not include the right to coerce
other people into subsidizing one's speech).
Furthermore, another pillar of freedom is the principle of "nullification"
which is the right and duty of juries to set aside unjust and/or tyrannical
laws, and to judge defendants innocent of violating such laws even when the
defendant is believed by the jury to have committed the deed and violated
the law.
That is the basis of my position on *all* issues such as this. Yes, I feel
bad for abused animals, and worry about kooks who keep wild creatures like
ocelots; but giving government power to micromanage peoples' private lives
causes *more* misery for people than it alleviates. To parrot a certain
saying, "Utopia isn't one of the options;" some bad things will happen,
even in a totally free society. In a free society, animals will still be
abused. People will still be robbed and raped and murdered. But far more
people will be far better off in freedom.
If you think this makes me a nut, then I feel pity for *you* and the people
affected by your ignorance.
Gerry
Funny, I can't for the life of me figure out how your post relates to the
laws and licensing requirements regarding the importation and keeping of
endangered animal species. I suggest you discuss your own issues in more
detail with your trailer park friends rather than with myself. I have
better things to do.
Thanks,
Gerry
Ystbybtatr
First, I don't own a trailer park. My cousin has some properties she rents
to low income people, and she has to go door-to-door every month collecting
rents. No thanks!
Second. My post relates exactly to such laws. I guess I made the mistake
of giving you credit for more intelligence than you actually posses. I'll
try to help you figure it out since you admit your ignorance in being
unable to figure it out by yourself.
Here goes:
When you make a law, any law, you are really telling people: you can't do
THIS or you must do THAT otherwise thugs will come after you armed with
guns intending to do you physical harm unless you accede to being their
captive.
That is fine for people who commit genuine crimes such as murder, rape,
theft, vandalism, etc., etc.
However, let's say you live in a free society and are minding your own
business at home, perhaps you and your ocelot are curled up on the sofa
watching a porno movie while you smoke a joint and call your bookie to bet
on the Ravens.
All of these activities have taken place peacefully between consenting
individuals. No one had any violence committed against him. No one had
any of his property taken from him by force. No harm or injury has come to
anyone. Indeed, some people have made an honest income, that they,
otherwise, would have had to resort to violence to acquire. In a free
society, there is no drug prohibition; and so the price of drugs isn't
inflated 1000%, and so there is no gang violence over drugs. You and your
fellow ocelot owners are keeping an endangered species alive and healthy.
Now introduce government into the mix. Though no violence has come to
anyone from your activities, government brings violence down upon you. The
price of drugs shoots up 1000% and street gangs form and war over the
profits. Small-time entrepreneurs are shut down so that mega-casinos and
state governments can operate gambling monopolies that have worse odds and
cheat more people than your neighborhood bookie. An endangered creature
that had a happy safe home is returned to the wild where it risks
extinction from development. That's what I meant when I said that laws you
advocate actually cause more misery than they alleviate.
Now, are you going to consider what I said? Or are you going to be lazy
still and shut your mind and dismiss my reasoning with another offhand
insult.
Hungry
<01c08e29$ce511ec0$6cc9accf@coventry>:
Bravo ystbybtatr! But your eloquent explanations are apparantly wasted on a
closed mind. I wouldn't own a wild animal myself, but I agree 100% with
everything you said. And I don't live in (or own) a trailer park either :-)
--Hungry
Gerry
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> <SNIP>
> Bravo ystbybtatr! But your eloquent explanations are apparantly wasted on
a
> closed mind. I wouldn't own a wild animal myself, but I agree 100% with
> everything you said. And I don't live in (or own) a trailer park either
:-)
Hey, you can smoke dope in your own home. Fine with me. Just to drive and
kill me while doing so. (like drinking&driving law which I'm sure you also
disagree with). Much of the government legislation where I live is there to
protect our rights, not supress them. Many Americans and Canadians died to
ensure legislation regarding those rights would continue. Stick that in
your pipe and smoke it dude.
As I said, there are laws I agree with, and those I do not. However, the
laws regarding the importation and keeping of endangered wild animals is
there to protect both people who may be injured by those not qualified to
keep such animals, and the animals themselves from extinction and
misstreatment, and to ensure the living conditions are adaquate. I suggest
you both stay on topic. A "free-for-all" in endangered animal importation
and exploitation is not desirable to the majority of voters. If you
disagree with this majority thing... there are other countries that would be
happy to have you that do not regard the opinion of the majority as
important.
If you wish to recieve a sample of countries that think that way, email me
and I'll be happy to suggest a few other places where you might be better
off. Some are even islands and have palm trees.
Gerry
Ystbybtatr
Being in a democracy doesn't give you a moral right to steal from others
and force others into involuntary slavery in the name of "majority rule."
Gerry
> <SNIP>
> > As I said, there are laws I agree with, and those I do not. However,
the
> > laws regarding the importation and keeping of endangered wild animals is
> > there to protect both people who may be injured by those not qualified
to
> > keep such animals, and the animals themselves from extinction and
> > misstreatment, and to ensure the living conditions are adaquate. I
> suggest
> > you both stay on topic. A "free-for-all" in endangered animal
importation
> > and exploitation is not desirable to the majority of voters. If you
> > disagree with this majority thing... there are other countries that
would
> be
> > happy to have you that do not regard the opinion of the majority as
> > important.
> >
> > If you wish to recieve a sample of countries that think that way, email
> me
> > and I'll be happy to suggest a few other places where you might be
better
> > off. Some are even islands and have palm trees.
> >
>
> Being in a democracy doesn't give you a moral right to steal from others
> and force others into involuntary slavery in the name of "majority rule."
Sorry, we don't even allow you to keep plutonium for personal nuclear device
building here. We will remove it from your possession if we find you with
it. If you have problems with this, I suggest you move to IRAQ. It's got a
much drier climate than Cuba.
Gerry
ps. Kids! LOL
val189
nywr...@aol.com (NY WRITER) wrote:
>
> Did you or anyone else at the job call the ASPCA or similar
organization? In
> many states, it's against the law to have an exotic/wild animal in
one's house.
>
This happened in the early 70's, so I doubt if there was anything on the
books then. I hope it is illegal in that state now. I was just trying
to point out how uncontrollable that unfortunate animal appeared.