Anyone tried it? Does it work?
Do you REALLY want to be washing out litter? Do you want to be dumping out
cat pee? Do you want cat pee (very odoriferous) standing about until you get
a chance to dump it? What about the solids?
Hey, kitty litter isn't all that expensive.
Do you REALLY want to be washing out litter? Do you want to be dumping out
cat pee? Do you want cat pee (very odoriferous) standing about until you get
a chance to dump it? What about the solids?
Hey, kitty litter isn't all that expensive.
I agree more with you, Rik
>
>Do you REALLY want to be washing out litter? Do you want to be dumping out
>cat pee? Do you want cat pee (very odoriferous) standing about until you get
>a chance to dump it? What about the solids?
>
>Hey, kitty litter isn't all that expensive.
>
If it's the system I have seen.. the urine is supposed to trickle down
onto a pad, that causes it to quickly evaporate, thus eliminating the
odors. However, I haven't tried it, being one of those people who
want someone else to try it first! The other thing I am thinking is
that since the litter is actually the size of small pebbles, the cats
might not like it.
Rebecca
rr...@lanminds.com wrote in article
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It's not. The litterbox has two trays, one on top of the other. The
litter's in the top tray and the pee passes through it into the tray
beneath, where it's held. The biggest selling point of this system is
that it's supposed to be odour-free.
> Plus, I still don't understand
> what happens to the poop?
Scoop and flush down the loo. Then wash the litter and it dries like
new apparently. The manufacturers claim it can be used thousands of
times before it needs replacing.
Why not? You "dump out" cat pee every time you empty a litter box. I'm
concerned about the ecological implications of millions of people
"dumping out" millions of tons of cat litter around the world, very
often wrapped in plastic bags and tipped into landfill, sometimes burned
and polluting the atmosphere, or flushed into the oceans. I'd rather
not add to it if I don't have to.
Flushing water through a tray of litter over a toilet and flushing it
away doesn't bother me in the slightest. Far more ecologically sound.
> Do you want cat pee (very odoriferous) standing about until you get
> a chance to dump it?
We clean our litterboxes at least twice a day, so it won't stand around
very long. And the whole idea of this litterbox, one of the things
highlighted in the blurb, is that there's no odour because the pee is
sealed in the bottom tray.
> What about the solids?
Scoop and flush. Mine goes down the loo, no reason theirs shouldn't
either.
>
> Hey, kitty litter isn't all that expensive.
Nothing to do with expense. It's to do with not screwing up the world
any more than it already is. Bet you'd use disposable diapers too,
wouldn't you?
Not sure if this system uses pads or not. It does talk about "liners"
being used in the lower tray. Certainly one of the main selling points
is that it's supposed to be odour-free.
> However, I haven't tried it, being one of those people who
> want someone else to try it first!
Maybe that'll be us!
> The other thing I am thinking is
> that since the litter is actually the size of small pebbles, the cats
> might not like it.
Our cats are amazingly laid back and use whatever we give them. Never
had a problem with that. What we almost always use is wood chip litter,
so they're used to walking on small pieces. Don't think that'd be a
problem.
If we try it I'll let you know.
-Nicole
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Murphy wrote:
> Is there anyone here who's tried the reusable litter? According to the
> publicity blub there's a two-tier litter tray with the litter in the top
> tray, and the pee drains into the lower tray onto a liner and the litter
> is supposed to stay dry. Every so often you wash the litter and it can
> be used thousands of times.
>
> Anyone tried it? Does it work?
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It's pretty widely available here in the UK but I don't know about the
US.
Murphy <murp...@deathsdoor.com> wrote in article
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> Sif wrote:
> >
> > But.... if the urine is evaporating into the air, then surely that
> > dissipates the odor all over the house?
>
> It's not. The litterbox has two trays, one on top of the other. The
> litter's in the top tray and the pee passes through it into the tray
> beneath, where it's held. The biggest selling point of this system is
> that it's supposed to be odour-free.
>
What's *this* about? How does it work?
Arizona Kat
Go to http://www.dejanews.com and search for "Littermaid". It's an
automatic litterbox which gets very mixed reviews. Some folk think it's
great, others have thrown theirs out because they think it's useless. A
Dejanews search will give you both sides of the case.
I haven't, because though I've seen a lot about them on the NGs I've
never seen a flushable litter in the UK. I've heard that you can get
Swheat Scoop by mail order, but I've never seen it advertised anywhere.
One of the cat mags did a review of litters recently, but Swheat Scoop
wasn't among them.
> Weighing the options, I decided
> that this was the best solution both for myself and the environment.
I'm not sure about that really. I mean, how can it be good for the
environment to flush stuff into the sewerage system and in turn out into
the oceans? Also, our water companies here aren't thrilled at the idea
of us shoving litter down the loo. Mind you, it's a better idea than
wrapping litter in plastic bags and having them buried in landfill.
Guess I'm back where I started. Nobody's tried the reusable stuff and
I'm still in a quandry about which is the best! Guess in the absence of
flushable, the only option is to try the reusable and see what it's
like. If it's ghastly I'll give up on the idea.
Thanks for your input.
> Guess I'm back where I started. Nobody's tried the reusable stuff and
> I'm still in a quandry about which is the best! Guess in the absence of
> flushable, the only option is to try the reusable and see what it's
> like. If it's ghastly I'll give up on the idea.
>
Have you tried using cedar shavings? I used this for a cat
who had diabetes and peed a LOT, so much that ordinary
litter couldn't keep up with it. It composts great, really
hot. I put it in my garden. The only reason I quit using
it was that I couldn't stand the smell of the cedar itself.
You mean woodshavings? No, that's never occurred to me.
> It composts great, really
> hot. I put it in my garden.
Don't say the word "garden" or my wife will be at me AGAIN to transform
the wilderness that masquerades as ours!
> The only reason I quit using
> it was that I couldn't stand the smell of the cedar itself.
Not the greatest recommendation :-), but worth a try. Thanks.
n article <7aq81k$10jk$1...@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>,
"James E Gibson" <yo...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> it looks interesting but i've never used it. i have the electronic litter
> box. me and my 2 cats Wolf and Pandora love it!
> Murphy wrote in message <36D02AB5...@deathsdoor.com>...
> >Is there anyone here who's tried the reusable litter? According to the
> >publicity blub there's a two-tier litter tray with the litter in the top
> >tray, and the pee drains into the lower tray onto a liner and the litter
> >is supposed to stay dry. Every so often you wash the litter and it can
> >be used thousands of times.
> >
> >Anyone tried it? Does it work?
> >
> >
>
>
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Well this isn't the system I was talking about, but it sounds
interesting! The system I'm looking at only has 2 trays and the
litter's made of some kind of material that doesn't absorb anything, so
it can just be rinsed in water and used over and over again. Was the
purpose of the system you're describing just to make sifting out the
clumps easier? I can't quite understand the point of it.
> my husband built a
> "special" sun room that we all enjoy although we call it "the cat room". He
> also made the a special bathroom..
Sounds like useful guy. He wouldn't like to come over here would he?
There are a lot of little DIY jobs needing doing in our house, and my
beloved is going to nag until they're all done!
Required some "hands" on work but was very clean and easy on the burnt
paws.
Some Vet schools use the Coated gravel that is used in fish tanks when
they need to collect and measure the urine.
dw
Ah hah, a positive recommendation! Thank you, I'm interested to hear
that. Hope the moggie's paws healed okay?
Wait a minute, can you use cedar shavings with feces as compost? I
heard that cat and dog feces were no good as feritlizer.
> Wait a minute, can you use cedar shavings with feces as compost? I
> heard that cat and dog feces were no good as feritlizer.
There are conflicting views on this. Some say, and I am of this
opinion, that the worst you have to contend with when composting cat
litter is tapeworm eggs (never use cat litter or any manure raw on your
garden). If your compost isn't hot enough, the eggs are going to
survive. To get around that, don't stick your hands in your mouth when
you're gardening, wash everything thoroughly before you eat it, and
mulch with something that keeps the soil from splashing up on the
plant. You should do those things anyway, though, because ordinary,
poop-free dirt contains many pathogens, like strep and botulism, just
for starters. The other side claims that no amount of caution warrants
using composted cat litter. I have used composted cedar shavings/litter
and it has worked great. I don't use it anymore because I don't like
the smell of the cedar itself. I know it's supposed to be pleasant, but
to me it's not. All the other litters except pine shavings have
amendments in them that make them unsuitable for use as compost. Pine
shavings don't work well as litter; I've tried them. Believe me, I've
tried a lot of litters to find one that didn't just end up in the
landfill. Because the thing is, what do people think happens to all
those pathogens they're so worried about when litter is thrown in the
landfills? Water goes through those things, and we drink it, that's
what.
>:/> Weighing the options, I decided
>:/> that this was the best solution both for myself and the environment.
>:/
>:/I'm not sure about that really. I mean, how can it be good for the
>:/environment to flush stuff into the sewerage system and in turn out into
>:/the oceans? Also, our water companies here aren't thrilled at the idea
>:/of us shoving litter down the loo. Mind you, it's a better idea than
>:/wrapping litter in plastic bags and having them buried in landfill.
No way I would put that stuff down the toilette. I don't care what they say. I
suspect it's almost as bad as regular kitty litter - probably turns into
something like concrete! Just wait, keep it up and you're going to wind up
having a stop up like you wouldn't believe.
>:/
>:/Guess I'm back where I started. Nobody's tried the reusable stuff and
>:/I'm still in a quandry about which is the best! Guess in the absence of
>:/flushable, the only option is to try the reusable and see what it's
>:/like. If it's ghastly I'll give up on the idea.
It's probably worth a try, I guess, as long as you don't mind cleaning it, etc.
Yuk, I think I'll stick with Fresh Step. I like the way it works. But, don't put
that stuff down the drain - it deffinately turns into a concrete-like substance.
Lynn
>:/
>:/Thanks for your input.
>:/
Re the reusable stuff - I have never used it but a neighbour has. she
bought a two tray system with litter you wash and re-use which sounds
like what you are interested in. She said it was revolting and now uses
the two tray system but with pelleted wood pulp type litter. This is
compostable but not flushable. She has two cats and says the pee still
drains through to some extent and means the pellets don't degrade into
sawdust so quickly (the problem I found with this litter).
I have tried a number of types as I didn't like the idea of adding to
the landfill dumping with clay and plastic bags. The wood pellets
degraded so quickly I have a compost bin filled with sawdust (I removed
the faeces before composting the rest of the litter), it was an
expensive and time consuming option as the litter had to be changed so
often. I have now settled on "swheat scoop" which is basically like
oatmeal and clumps into porridge like lumps which harden over time. It
is flushable and compostable and I find clumps much better than regular
clumping litter and needs complete changing very infrequently (as
promised in the blurb). The only drawbacks are that it is light and as
it needs to be 4 inches deep it is easily scooped over the side of the
pan by energetic digging, also it sticks to the cats feet and so ends up
on the carpet rather more than other litters. A hooded tray with a flap
has helped with the first problem and lots of hoovering with the second.
I live in the UK and had to buy this mail order in bulk as it is not in
any of the shops.
Good luck with your experiments - please report back if you try the
reusable as I'm always interested in alternatives.
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If it's the kind that looks like rocks or pebbles then I think
the pieces are too large and they make it impossible for the cat
to cover up the waste.
It's pretty revolting if you use the so-called "pads" that they
recommend, but they're a gimmick and we pretty quickly realised that
they're unnecessary. Without them it's terrific and extremely
environmentally sound which matters a lot to us.
>
> Good luck with your experiments - please report back if you try the
> reusable as I'm always interested in alternatives.
I reported back a couple of days before you posted but I guess your
server hasn't
given you my post. Here's what I said:
"Well, I think it's great, particularly from the environmental point of
view. No more plastic bags of used litter being dumped in landfill. No
more litter being flushed into the sewer system and out into the oceans.
The litter tray's in two parts, one resting on top of the other with a
kind of plastic seal around the join which stops odours. In the top
tray you put the reusable granules of litter. Not sure what they're
made of. They're small and round (bit less than half an inch), made
from a very lightweight material and they have some kind of built-in
deodoriser - very slight to the nose, but enough to be effective.
Wondered if this would deter the cats, but it doesn't.
Cat sits on litter and pees. Pee isn't absorbed at all by the litter,
but drains through the litter and through slits in the bottom of the
tray into the lower tray, where it's held until you empty it. Litter
remains dry and fresh for the next occupant. A couple of times a day
you lift off the top tray and empty the bottom tray down the loo. Quick
rinse with water, and put it back under the upper tray. So simple it's
laughable. And most important, no odours and nothing to throw into the
garbage. The manufacturers say you can line the lower tray with
newspaper or with a special absorbent liner, but I can't see the point
of that at all. Seems that would make it pretty grotty to empty,
folding up a sodden liner, you'd have to throw it in the garbage, and
it's totally unnecessary because it works fine without it.
When the cats make more solid deposits very little of the litter sticks
to it, so you just scoop and flush. Again, much more environmentally
friendly than used litter in plastic bags.
Every so often you refresh the litter by sitting the top tray on the loo
and pouring cold water over it to drain through. That's all you need to
do and it's fresh as a daisy. Must be cold water because hot
deactivates it somehow.
As a little litter is lost via the solids, you need to top it up every
so often but I reckon the bag that comes with the litterbox will last a
few months. The tray plus first bag of litter cost £23.99 (around
$38.50 I think). Refill bags of litter cost £10.99 ($17.50).
I'd recommend this litterbox wholeheartedly, particularly to anyone
concerned with environmental issues. We're going to replace all of ours
with one of these."
LOL! A ludicrous comparison. This litter is totally dry, deodorised
little pebbles which are a hell of a lot cleaner and more pleasant than
any normal kind of litter when it's been used. To compare that with
paper which is wiped across your butt is absurd. You're clearly finding
it hard to get your head round the concept of this system Bob. The cats
don't wipe their bums on the pebbles. BIG difference.
You wouldn't be trying to divert attention away from the fact that you
still haven't produced the evidence to back up your "indoor cats live
longer" theory would you? Funny how quickly you jump into most threads
but ignore completely posts which put you on the spot.
If this product is made in the U.K. it may not be available
in the U.S.
Cattus Ltd. in Texas used to make a similar product using
coated corn cob granules (Patent No. 4,444,148, April 1984)
but the company may have gone out of business.
By the way, do you have any problem with tracking ? If the
size of each piece of litter is a little less than half an
inch then it shouldn't get tracked all over the house like
clumping litter does.
Thanks,
E.T.
Murphy <murp...@deathsdoor.com> wrote:
> ...
a friend of mine recently bought the reusable litter from homebase and
thinks it is the bees knees. but* i've not seen it anywhere. do you know
of any high street shops that sell it
cheers
sue
Murphy <murp...@deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
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We threw away the packaging, so I have to go from memory. It's called
the "Cat Loo" and is made by a British company called Armitages, who
make a lot of pet stuff over here. They're quite big I think, so they
may have a web site.
>
> If this product is made in the U.K. it may not be available
> in the U.S.
Can't believe we have something you don't - that'd be a first!
>
> By the way, do you have any problem with tracking ?
So far we haven't had any tracking at all with it. How it'll perform
long term only time will tell.
The Sweet Pee system uses rather large pieces of rock which
some cats may not like and cannot mask the odor very well.
Nice name anyways :)
TIE Lion aka SySTeM FiRe
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If you don't mind, please also respond via e-mail so I get your
response sooner: Chr...@earthling.net
Christian
In article <36F6A368...@deathsdoor.com>,
Murphy <murp...@deathsdoor.com> wrote:
> Hannah wrote:
> >
> > Re the reusable stuff - I have never used it but a neighbour has. she
> > bought a two tray system with litter you wash and re-use which sounds
> > like what you are interested in. She said it was revolting....
>
> It's pretty revolting if you use the so-called "pads" that they
> recommend, but they're a gimmick and we pretty quickly realised that
> they're unnecessary. Without them it's terrific and extremely
> environmentally sound which matters a lot to us.
> >
> > Good luck with your experiments - please report back if you try the
> > reusable as I'm always interested in alternatives.
>
~John
CJSNet <chr...@earthling.net> wrote in message
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If my cats don't like it, I'll let you all know. So far so good though. :)
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John B. <john.b...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I assume you meant the "thought" of it but for some reason were
physically incapable of typing the word. Either way, I'm delighted that
something makes you ill you animal abusing bastard, please think about
it a lot.
Dear God, you really are a complete prat if you think it's not
completely obvious that you're only saying this to try to get at Murphy
because he's put you in your place so efficiently over the fact that you
deliberately abused your cat. You're so transparent, and unbelievably
stupid.
Hearfelt thanks for the information guys
Martin
When kit's shat in it, you can scoop the poo out as normal, and any pebbles
that stick to the poo (about 3 per bowel movement for us) can be topped up
once a month from the supplied bag of spare pebbles. You can order more as
and when (once a year if that). However, the pebbles float, so if you tip
the poo complete with stuck pebbles down the loo, the poo sinks and the
pebbles float - and we then scoop out the pebbles with a matching
tea-strainer, rinse them off and return them to the tray!
Then, monthly you rinse the pebbles in the top tray with cold water, which
just runs out through the slots. This keeps the pebbles clean. We'll do it
over the toilet, so the dirty water just runs away, or over the bath is
another option.
Took them 2 days to get used to it, but now they're fine and it's a very
pleasing alternative to all that money and litter liners and bin liners and
smell and tracks of litter over the floor, etc.!
An identical version is also made by Anthony Green, also called the Cat Loo.
You can order the Anthony Green version by e-mailing sa...@partnerspets.com
although we bought the Armitage version in Kingston. They're both around
£25.
Hope this helps your faeces dilemma.
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for the information, does anyone know if the system is
available in Canada?
Shalom,
Lyle
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Like your use of rather familiar coloquial terms to describe what the cats do
too ROFL.
Thanks for the report
Martin
This sounds very interesting --I only wish there was more information on the
partnerspets website about it.
Mike
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lyle gardiner <lgar...@felix.vcn.bc.ca> wrote in message
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> In <7evn3h$7cc$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, "CJSNet" <Chr...@earthling.net>
wrote:
> : What we went for; the Armitage Good Girl Cat Loo! This consists of a
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Lauren Ellington wrote in message
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>Does anyone know where to find or buy this system?
>
I used to use this system. I found it worked well when I only had 2 cats. When I
got up to 4 cats, I had 3 boxes and they seemed to concentrate their peeing in
only one box for the most part. The pads didn't really have a good chance to dry
out. The drawers didn't work that well, otherwise I might have swapped the trays
around once or twice a day. I'd come home from work in the summer on a humid day
and it was kind of unbearable. I ended up switching to Feline Pine.
One of the nice things about the Sweet Pea system, though, is the availability
of a collecting tray and covered containers (with chemical strips) that fits in
the bottom part. I had to order from the company direct. I am keeping one of the
litterboxes, for those times when I have to get a urine sample.
Other things to look out for: the bottom section is shallow, if your floors are
crooked (as mine are) you will need a piece of plywood under it with shims. I
tiled the plywood for cleaning ease.
I wouldn't use it if your cats do not have firm stools for the most part.
Works best in a well ventilated area.
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I saw it at Petsmart in San Diego last year but don't know if they
still carry it.
"Lauren Ellington" <BETAS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Does anyone know where to find or buy this system? I have 3 cats and will
>soon get a 4th. The oldest one is a diabetic and he pees A LOT. Please
>help. Thanks
>