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Jason Fischer

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May 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/12/96
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In article <4n4tj5$m...@aphex.direct.ca>, ri...@direct.ca says...
>
>Has anyone had a problem with water accumulating in the trunk: spare tire
>well and the jack well?
>
>The water seems to come in when the car is parked in the rain, although also
>when I drive. I can not see any obvious leaks in the hatchback seal, so I
>keep one of the drain plugs out of the spare tire well and a sponge handy to
>empty the jack well. The jack (and all of its rust) are no longer stored
>there.
>
>The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
>Looks really pretty.
>
>Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
>
In my 90 probe LK I have the same thing again, I just clean it out after the
winter and took out about 2 litres of water out of the tire well. But I think I
know where it is coming from. If you remove the side panels in the hatch there
are area in the inner body shell that are supposed to have plastic coverings on
them to prevent (i suspect) this problem. In my car these had lost their
stickyness and had slipped out of place so water could enter the hatch. You
might want to check this out. These areas are right behind the wheel well.

Good Luck


Rick Miller

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May 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/12/96
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Paul DeMara

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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In article <4n4tj5$m...@aphex.direct.ca>, ri...@direct.ca says...
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Hi, I've have the same problem with my 89 probe GT. I had to buy a house
with a garage and get underground parking at work to solve the problem.
Just kidding.

I had the Vancouver Ford dealership fix the taillight problem several
years ago. This seemed to fix the problem. Coincidentily I did buy a
house with a garage and get underground parking. We had a lot of rain
here in Vancouver lately and I noticed my trunk carpeting was very wet
and the taillights have a bit of water in them. It's dried out by
itself. I think the problem is condensation related because I can't find
any leaks. Very frustraiting.

By the way I have 160,000 km (100,000 miles) on the car and am the
original owner and love the car. I have had no major problems except my
electric window mechanism died recently. $300.00 wholesale canadian for
the part(beter than the 450 retail price).

I have put tires, brakes, timming belt oil changes etc. but i consider
these items as part of regular maintenance. My turbo still gives me full
boost and I don't burn any oil. My Air Care comes out with readings 100
times better than their minimum specs so my egine seems ok.

The only thing I've noticed is I get a bit of a jiggle in the front of
the car when going over bumps so it might be time for new ball joints.

Paul DeMara
pde...@direct.ca


Jeff Conrad

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May 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/17/96
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Rick Miller wrote:
>
> Has anyone had a problem with water accumulating in the trunk: spare tire
> well and the jack well?
>
> The water seems to come in when the car is parked in the rain, although also
> when I drive. I can not see any obvious leaks in the hatchback seal, so I
> keep one of the drain plugs out of the spare tire well and a sponge handy to
> empty the jack well. The jack (and all of its rust) are no longer stored
> there.
>
> The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
> Looks really pretty.
>
> Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

Rick,
I had the same problem and got it fixed in '90 by the dealer. A
friend of mine who also bought a Probe that year said it was a
manufacturer's defect and the dealer would fix it for free.... and they
did. For you it might be a little late now.

-Jeff Conrad
jco...@ma.ultranet.com

Joe Lusk

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May 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/19/96
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ri...@direct.ca (Rick Miller) wrote:

>Has anyone had a problem with water accumulating in the trunk: spare tire
>well and the jack well?

>The water seems to come in when the car is parked in the rain, although also
>when I drive. I can not see any obvious leaks in the hatchback seal, so I
>keep one of the drain plugs out of the spare tire well and a sponge handy to
>empty the jack well. The jack (and all of its rust) are no longer stored
>there.

>The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
>Looks really pretty.

>Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

My '89 LX has the same problem. I haven't fixed it yet, but I have
read somewhere that the taillight seals are the culprit. The
taillights must be removed and resealed.

Joe


Mr. m0e

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May 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/19/96
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On Sun, 19 May 1996, Joe Lusk wrote:
> ri...@direct.ca (Rick Miller) wrote:
> >The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
> >Looks really pretty.
> read somewhere that the taillight seals are the culprit. The
> taillights must be removed and resealed.

That's exactly it. It's a recurring thread here in a.c.F-P.
Just pull the plastic lenses off and run a bead of a clear silicone
sealant around where the black rubber gasket is/should be...make it fat.
Let the "new gasket" dry before reinstalling the lenses, or else you'll
have the gummy sealant all over your car.
That should do it.

-m0e


Sean Mullally

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May 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/20/96
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Jeff Conrad wrote:

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> Rick Miller wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had a problem with water accumulating in the trunk: spare tire
> > well and the jack well?
> >
> > The water seems to come in when the car is parked in the rain, although also
> > when I drive. I can not see any obvious leaks in the hatchback seal, so I
> > keep one of the drain plugs out of the spare tire well and a sponge handy to
> > empty the jack well. The jack (and all of its rust) are no longer stored
> > there.
> >
> > The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
> > Looks really pretty.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

I have a '89 gl, with the exact same problem. I didn't know it until
las winter when my battery was dead, and i went for my jumper cables,
which were frozen solid in there. i had to melt it with a blow dryer.
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gene...@eznet.net

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May 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/21/96
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I have a 90 Probe and I just emptied the water out of the spare tire
well today. This problem began to appear a few months ago. It is
strange, my carpet and plywood cover are dry but I had a couple of
inches of water in the well. I cut small holes in the rubber grommet
drain plugs so the water can now run out.

On Fri, 17 May 1996 23:25:18 -0400, Jeff Conrad
<jco...@ma.ultranet.com> wrote:

>Rick Miller wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone had a problem with water accumulating in the trunk: spare tire
>> well and the jack well?
>>
>> The water seems to come in when the car is parked in the rain, although also
>> when I drive. I can not see any obvious leaks in the hatchback seal, so I
>> keep one of the drain plugs out of the spare tire well and a sponge handy to
>> empty the jack well. The jack (and all of its rust) are no longer stored
>> there.
>>
>> The rear tail-lamps all have various quantities of condensation in them.
>> Looks really pretty.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
>

Alan De Andrea

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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On Sun, 19 May 1996 23:07:37 -0500, "Mr. m0e" <m...@wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu>
wrote:


>That's exactly it. It's a recurring thread here in a.c.F-P.
>Just pull the plastic lenses off and run a bead of a clear silicone
>sealant around where the black rubber gasket is/should be...make it fat.
>Let the "new gasket" dry before reinstalling the lenses, or else you'll
>have the gummy sealant all over your car.
>That should do it.
>
>-m0e
>

Well, what do you know, I have the same problem on an '89. :)

Anyway, what's the best ways to get the tail lenses off? Do I have to
go in through the inside of the trunk, or is there some other way? I
had some of the interior plastic off before, and it looked hard enough
to change a light bulb, let alone try to get off the outside housing.

Thanks,
Alan


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Mr. m0e

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May 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/24/96
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On Wed, 22 May 1996, Alan De Andrea wrote:
> Anyway, what's the best ways to get the tail lenses off? Do I have to
> go in through the inside of the trunk, or is there some other way? I
> had some of the interior plastic off before, and it looked hard enough
> to change a light bulb, let alone try to get off the outside housing.

To be honest, I haven't done it, so I can't say with certainty.
But I suspect the retaining brackets are on the inside of the trunk.
Why not take the trunk cover off it's hinge, remove it entirely, and crawl
into the trunk facing the rear (ie: work from inside the car). Might make
it a little easier to pull off as much of the trunk wall as possible
without breaking it.
-m0e


Laurence Larson

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Have 90 Probe LX and similar problem. However it seems to have
disappeared! Realize this is not 'an answer' but that did happen. Have
had similar problem in a couple other cars and it was poorly caulked
body seams that wheels threw water into same under pressure. Problem is
to find em of course. Good Luck. Still like my probe with 64 K on it.
Lars


dde...@richmond.infi.net

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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I had the same problem on my wife's 1991 Probe. The cause of this
problem is the gaskets mounted between the taillamp assemblies shrink
and and allow water so slip thru into the compartment thru the holes
the lamp assemblies are mounted. I removed the back lamp assemblies
and put red silicon seal on the gaskets and have had no problems
since. Note, I suggest you also fix the same type of leak that occurs
up front that allows water to leak into the floorboard of the
passenger front seat. Put glue around all grommets and seals that go
thru the firewall area. I did all this 2 years ago and the problems
have not reoccured. Good Luck!

Note, by just cutting holes is the water still comes in and rust
results....

John Hardin

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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In article <4omln0$p...@nw101.infi.net>, dde...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
>I had the same problem on my wife's 1991 Probe. The cause of this
>problem is the gaskets mounted between the taillamp assemblies shrink

Are you sure that's the case? My gaskets seemed to be pretty porous - about
like rubber sponges...

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