"This isn't anything urgent, just an interesting revelation I thought I'd
share with you. Maybe it will strike someone else as it did me.
"So, for the last, oh, six or eight months, I've been finding myself in an
uncomfortable emotional state. My life is going pretty well, I'm
moderately content and happy, but I keep finding that I've been crying
really easily over stupid things, ("isn't that commercial meaningful..."
sniff) and, more disturbingly, finding myself angry at my parents alot for
no apparent reason.
"Without going into my whole history (details upon request) suffice it to
say that things between me and my parents are hundreds of times better
than they were when I was growing up, largely because I decided that
someone needed to be an adult in the relationship, and that someone was
me. For about ten years we have been alright with each other. I have
learned to walk away when the fights start, and they have learned that I
*will* leave if they don't stop.
"But lately I've been finding myself dredging up all sorts of old hurts
and painful memories. Things that happened 15-20 years ago, and are best
left buried.
"I've been disturbed by this.
"I was talking with a friend Monday night, and I mentioned this to her.
She commented that sometimes, if she is happy, contented, and (most
importantly) feels safe, she finds herself dredging up old garbage. She
thinks it is her subconscious saying, 'Alright girl, you can deal with
this now, and you will be alright to get through it.'
"I was hit with a clue x 4. Sometimes something makes so much sense that
I just have to believe it..."
Here Laura pauses, sips her tea, then says, "I do feel safe in my life
now. And the things I'm feeling angry about are valid angry things. So it
makes sense to me (and feels right) that now I finally can clean out some
of those old hurts, and finally let them heal."
She takes her now empty tea cup in hand, and walks to the chalk line.
Laura looks down for a long while, and then says, "To memories, and to
time, and to the patience to let one hide the other until it's time to
let go."
<<<CRASH>>>
As the cup shatters it sounds like a young girl's laughter.
Laura
storyteller, folklorist, dreamer
"Yup. BTDT," says BarbaraFox.
" For me, the defining moment of 3 years of therapy
came when I finally let myself be *ANGRY*."
"There I am striding up and down the office, getting
good and mad. My family does NOT do mad. Ever.
Those of you with semi-functional families cannot
begin to believe how crippling this can be. I turned
it all in and let it fester until I was admitted for a 48
hour suicide watch."
"So, I'm stomping up and down, getting madder
and madder. And my therapist is sort of crooning to
himself 'Wait for it, wait for it..."
"*Boom* It hits me. They'd lied to me. All those
dire predictions about how horrible and dangerous
anger was, how ever expressing it would cause the
end of civilization as we know it. A lie told by sad
frightened people to maintain their own comfort zones.
I shrieked, turned to my therapist and asked why it
had taken me 30+ years to catch on."
"He gave me a huge grin and said, basically, we
know what we are ready to know, when we are strong
enough to know it. 'Now we can really start to work.'
And that was what we did. "
"It was an amazing moment. It was when I began
to decide who I am, rather than being who I was told
to be. So, it took me 30+ years...."
She tosses her glass toward the fireplace.
"Call me a late bloomer."
***CRASH***
"...for there is hope in two women, help in three women, strength in
four, joy in five, power in six and against seven, no gate may stand."
Sheri S. Tepper "Gibbon's Decline and Fall"
(gentle snip)
>Here Laura pauses, sips her tea, then says, "I do feel safe in my life
now.
>And the things I'm feeling angry about are valid angry things. So it
makes
>sense to me (and feels right) that now I finally can clean out some
of those
>old hurts, and finally let them heal."
She takes her now empty tea cup in
>hand, and walks to the chalk line.
Laura looks down for a long while, and
>then says, "To memories, and to
time, and to the patience to let one hide
>the other until it's time to
let go."
<<<CRASH>>>
As the cup shatters it
>sounds like a young girl's laughter.
Laura
storyteller, folklorist,
>dreamer
Nita has listened raptly to Laura. A few tears gather in her eyes, and roll,
unnoticed, down her cheeks. She starts to speak, grumphs, and starts again,
"To healing the hurts," and sends her glass after Laura's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crash<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Nita, an RPSGT
_________________________________
Prove all things;
Hold fast that which is good.
I Thessalonians 5:21
>"But lately I've been finding myself dredging up all sorts of old hurts
>and painful memories. Things that happened 15-20 years ago, and are best
>left buried.
>
>"I've been disturbed by this.
>
>"I was talking with a friend Monday night, and I mentioned this to her.
>She commented that sometimes, if she is happy, contented, and (most
>importantly) feels safe, she finds herself dredging up old garbage. She
>thinks it is her subconscious saying, 'Alright girl, you can deal with
>this now, and you will be alright to get through it.'
>
>"I was hit with a clue x 4. Sometimes something makes so much sense that
>I just have to believe it..."
"YOW! Excuse me while I pick my own splinters out...
Laura - now I understand a part of what's been going on in my life. I
don't know if anyone noticed, but I've been posting on *a lot* of stuff
lately - things that are important to me, that affect me deeply. Old
stuff, new stuff - it's been a... novel experience."
>Here Laura pauses, sips her tea, then says, "I do feel safe in my life
>now. And the things I'm feeling angry about are valid angry things. So it
>makes sense to me (and feels right) that now I finally can clean out some
>of those old hurts, and finally let them heal."
"I don't feel much *safer* as such, but I do feel quite a bit more
*secure* in who I am... and it seems to work much the same way."
>She takes her now empty tea cup in hand, and walks to the chalk line.
>Laura looks down for a long while, and then says, "To memories, and to
>time, and to the patience to let one hide the other until it's time to
>let go."
>
>
><<<CRASH>>>
>
>As the cup shatters it sounds like a young girl's laughter.
"<Big, bright smile> I'll drink to that!"
Ben drains his Diet Coke and Rose's lime juice, and pitches the glass in
after Laura's. The sound is like a gasp of pain... fading, fading away.
Ben
-=-
> "*Boom* It hits me. They'd lied to me. All those
>dire predictions about how horrible and dangerous
>anger was, how ever expressing it would cause the
>end of civilization as we know it. A lie told by sad
>frightened people to maintain their own comfort zones.
>I shrieked, turned to my therapist and asked why it
>had taken me 30+ years to catch on."
> "He gave me a huge grin and said, basically, we
>know what we are ready to know, when we are strong
>enough to know it. 'Now we can really start to work.'
>And that was what we did. "
> "It was an amazing moment. It was when I began
>to decide who I am, rather than being who I was told
>to be. So, it took me 30+ years...."
> She tosses her glass toward the fireplace.
> "Call me a late bloomer."
> ***CRASH***
Hey, BarbaraFox - CONGRATULATIONS. 'Late bloomer', hell - some people
*never* reach that point, never learn that lesson.
DAMN, but that's a great thing you've accomplished!
Ben, personally AND vicariously happy
BarbaraFox gives Ben a mock-stern look.
"I'm sorry, I have a personal rule never to accept
congratulations from anyone with out hugging the stuffing outa them. C'mere,
you."
>>Hey, BarbaraFox - CONGRATULATIONS. 'Late bloomer', hell - some people
>>*never* reach that point, never learn that lesson.
>>
>>DAMN, but that's a great thing you've accomplished!
>
> BarbaraFox gives Ben a mock-stern look.
> "I'm sorry, I have a personal rule never to accept
>congratulations from anyone with out hugging the stuffing outa them. C'mere,
>you."
"Uh, can I think about this first?"
<Approximately .2 femtoseconds later>
"Ho-kay, I've thought about it!"
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Ben, flapping like a post-raven Scarecrow imitation <yes, I *know* we've
got a Raven and a Scarecrow in here> -
"I feel... so light-hearted!"
<grin>
"My pleasure, BarbaraFox. BTW, that sounds like a great policy - mind if
I adopt it?"
"Oh, heck. I see I've short-changed you a bit; here's a few more!"
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Ben, who's been a bit short of hugs lately... "Aw better now!" :)
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Ben wrote:
> Laura Packer 5-2027 <nhlsp@gauss> wrote:
>
> >"I was talking with a friend Monday night, and I mentioned this to her.
> >She commented that sometimes, if she is happy, contented, and (most
> >importantly) feels safe, she finds herself dredging up old garbage. She
> >thinks it is her subconscious saying, 'Alright girl, you can deal with
> >this now, and you will be alright to get through it.'
> >
> >"I was hit with a clue x 4. Sometimes something makes so much sense that
> >I just have to believe it..."
>
> "YOW! Excuse me while I pick my own splinters out...
>
> Laura - now I understand a part of what's been going on in my life. I
> don't know if anyone noticed, but I've been posting on *a lot* of stuff
> lately - things that are important to me, that affect me deeply. Old
> stuff, new stuff - it's been a... novel experience."
>
> "I don't feel much *safer* as such, but I do feel quite a bit more
> *secure* in who I am... and it seems to work much the same way."
"That's pretty much what I interpret 'safer' to mean. I know and like who
I am. I have friends who know and like me. I have a nice loop of good
feeling and security running through my life."
>
> >She takes her now empty tea cup in hand, and walks to the chalk line.
> >Laura looks down for a long while, and then says, "To memories, and to
> >time, and to the patience to let one hide the other until it's time to
> >let go."
> >
> >
> ><<<CRASH>>>
> >
> >As the cup shatters it sounds like a young girl's laughter.
>
> "<Big, bright smile> I'll drink to that!"
>
> Ben drains his Diet Coke and Rose's lime juice, and pitches the glass in
> after Laura's. The sound is like a gasp of pain... fading, fading away.
Laura gives Ben a hug. "Isn't it wonderful when something makes so much
*sense* that just knowing it helps? I'm really glad this clicked so
rightly with some of you. That is why I posted it in the first place."
Laura
storyteller, folklorist, dreamer
My epiphany on this front actually came while reading the Tao of Pooh.
The book didn't really say anything I didn't know beforehand, but brought
all of the threads together into one neat bundle. It broke down into
three rules I try to live by at all times:
1. If you can't change a situation, worrying is just a way to make it
more unpleasant. If you can change the situation, worrying clouds the
mind and makes change more difficult.
2. Happiness and misery are both choices.
3. If you know you're going to look back on today and laugh, you might
as well start laughing now.
--Elocutus
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
"Well then," says Elocutus, "let me be the next to offer you my most
heartfelt congratulations."
BarbaraFox, still reeling from a Ben-Hug-Fest, grins
at Elocutus.
"You, sir, are a shameless opportunist. C'mere."
> Ben, flapping like a post-raven Scarecrow imitation <yes, I *know* we've
> got a Raven and a Scarecrow in here> -
>
Raven, hearing her name, swoops over and watches the exhibition. Muttering to
herself, she then flies over Ben and drops a couple of feathers on him. "Well, if
your going for the post-raven look you should at least have a few feathers."
- raven
(snip)
From the vicinity of Ben's right shoulder a muffled
voice is heard.
"I have a WenchCave to design and a Pernicious
to rescue..."
>"Oh, heck. I see I've short-changed you a bit; here's a few more!"
>Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug
> Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hug Hu
(snip)
"Ya'll go ahead without me, I'll catch up... no.
Dammit. Duty calls. Ben, dear heart... save my place."
>sa...@aol.com (Saoba) wrote:
> "*Boom* It hits me. They'd lied to me. All
>those
>dire predictions about how horrible and dangerous
>anger was, how
>ever expressing it would cause the
>end of civilization as we know it.
I remember the moment I was hit in the head with this one.
I was studying acting at the Lee Strasburg Theatre Institute, and the exercise
was to "re-create" a person in your life, and tell them the one thing you
really want to say to them. I'd just had a fight with my father so I picked
him. But try as I might, I couldn't express how angry I truly was.
This would have surprised anyone who knew me at the time - I've got a temper,
and would throw the odd tantrum as a child.
After an hour or so of me sputtering "how dare you" or something to that
effect, My instructor, David Gideon, picked up the clue by 4, and started to
heft it.
DG: What are you feeling right now?
XJ: Anger. I'm really angry.
DG: So why can't you show us?
XJ: I, uh, I'm not sure...
DG: Are you affraid you'll lose your temper?
XJ: YES! If I get too angry, I'll lose my temper...
DG: Have you ever lost your temper before?
XJ: Yes! Yes, I've lost my temper!
DG: You've lost control, then?
XJ: YES!!
And Gideon Takes His Swing!
DG: Did you hurt any body?
WHACK!
XJ: .....uh, no...
DG: Then you've hurt yourself? Punched walls, broken your hand, that sort of
thing?
WHACK!
XJ: ..........um, well, no. Nothing like that.
DG: Then you've never lost your temper.
XJ: Huh?
DG Somebody might have TOLD you you've lost your temper, but if you've never
gone blind mad and started swinging and doing damage to whatever, then
YOU HAVE NEVER LOST CONTROL, have you?
WHACK!!
XJ well, no.
DG Then you have NEVER really lost your temper. Oh, I'm sure you've been
angry, and I'm sure you've raised holy hell, and screamed and shouted,
and even stomped your feet. BUT EXPRESSING YOUR ANGER IS NOT THE SAME
AS LOSING YOUR TEMPER!!
That was MY pivotal moment. I have never been afraid to be angry since then.
And as a result, I rarely lose my temper any more. Just last year, My best
friend from the second grade was commenting on it. I was rebuilding a fishing
reel, and it was fighting me all the way. 15 years ago, I'd of worked myself
into a lather.
NOw, I mutter and swear and cuss the thing out, but it capitulates without
any stamping around and screaming. Because now I know -
I have NEVER "LOST" my temper - it's right here in my pocket.
(-:{ XJahn, the Equity Carpenter
)-:} JOATMOAF, FITWC, FITWE
>>If God meant for us to drink, He would have given us Stomaches.<<
XJahn at aol dot com
Shameless and an opportunist? What a great combo. If it weren't my
birthday, that could easily be the nicest thing anybody had said to me
today.
Elocutus - Can I add your birthday to my list? Now that you've
admitted it in public?
--
Lady Cheron, Keeper of the Birthday List for alt.callahans
See it at http://www.callahans.org Reply to LadyCheron
at iName.com (Make sure the first character is "L" not one!)
"Just a hugaholic in search of her next fix."
Elocutus of Borg wrote in message <883510966...@dejanews.com>...
:My epiphany on this front actually came while reading the Tao of Pooh.
:The book didn't really say anything I didn't know beforehand, but brought
:all of the threads together into one neat bundle. It broke down into
:three rules I try to live by at all times:
:
:1. If you can't change a situation, worrying is just a way to make it
:more unpleasant. If you can change the situation, worrying clouds the
:mind and makes change more difficult.
:
:2. Happiness and misery are both choices.
:
:3. If you know you're going to look back on today and laugh, you might
:as well start laughing now.
I love this. Would you mind terribly if I used this as my sig file? I
promise I'll give full credit.
EC Jester
> If it weren't my
birthday, that could easily be the nicest thing anybody had
>said to me
today.
--Elocutus
"Your Birthday? Many Happy Returns!" Nita is leery of singing her traditional
birthday song ... "nah."
>In article <883578318...@dejanews.com>, Elocutus of Borg
><Elocutu...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> If it weren't my
>birthday, that could easily be the nicest thing anybody had
>>said to me
>today.
>
>--Elocutus
>
>"Your Birthday? Many Happy Returns!" Nita is leery of singing her traditional
>birthday song ... "nah."
"Oh, c'mon. Sing. Pleezzee?":) Gesi says as she passes Nita on
the way to Elocutus' table. She pulls a FavoriteFlavorCake out of
the GLBP. "I'm sorry this is late. But I didn't hear about your
birthday till today." She sets the cake in front of him...and if
it turns out he'd rather have a FavoriteFlavorPie, it magically
morphs into one.:) She then digs into the BackPack and pulls out
a silver and black box. She opens the box and removes a candle
the liquid yellow of light. She places it in the center of the
cake and touches a match to the wick. "Elocutus, make a wish,
blow out the candle and have a wonderful year.":)
Gesi
You've got to trust your instinct
And let go of regret
You've got to bet on yourself now, star
'Cause that's your best bet.
-311
"Hmm - you'll have to work hard to get it down to three lines 'though.
Perhaps if you used _very_ small letters :)"
[journeyman]
--
***** Andy May - journeyman, traveler, friend to kittens *****
**** http://www.argus.demon.co.uk andy at argus.demon.co.uk ****
Chocolate Mudd Cake. How did you know?
I wish everyone in the world would put down their guns and their knives
and renounce violence forever.
That way, I could take over the planet with a butter knife.
--Elocutus
"What do you mean I can't have him killed? It's my BIRTHDAY!"
Andy May wrote:
I like Louis Wu's line from 'Ringworld Engineers'
"I have to get over this sometime, why not now?"
"I dunno." Al says, "With a title like 'nah' I'm not real enthused by it."
>I wish everyone in the world would put down their guns and their knives
>and renounce violence forever.
>That way, I could take over the planet with a butter knife.
"Dogbert. Thanks for reminding me exactly what the quote was."
Big Al. Now, where was that other thread?
>In article <34abb585.56018718@news-server>,
>grov...@san.rr.com (Gesi Rovario) wrote:
>>
>>I believe I heard llbi...@aol.com (Llbishop) say:
>>
>>>In article <883578318...@dejanews.com>, Elocutus of Borg
>>><Elocutu...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> If it weren't my
>>>birthday, that could easily be the nicest thing anybody had said to me
>>>today.
>>>
>>>--Elocutus
>>>
>>>"Your Birthday? Many Happy Returns!" Nita is leery of singing her
>>>traditional birthday song ... "nah."
>>
>>"Oh, c'mon. Sing. Pleezzee?":) Gesi says as she passes Nita on
>>the way to Elocutus' table. She pulls a FavoriteFlavorCake out of
>>the GLBP. "I'm sorry this is late. But I didn't hear about your
>>birthday till today." She sets the cake in front of him...and if
>>it turns out he'd rather have a FavoriteFlavorPie, it magically
>>morphs into one.:) She then digs into the BackPack and pulls out
>>a silver and black box. She opens the box and removes a candle
>>the liquid yellow of light. She places it in the center of the
>>cake and touches a match to the wick. "Elocutus, make a wish,
>>blow out the candle and have a wonderful year.":)
>
>Chocolate Mudd Cake. How did you know?
"Knowing things like that is part of being The Cake Wench.":-)
>I wish everyone in the world would put down their guns and their knives
>and renounce violence forever.
>
>That way, I could take over the planet with a butter knife.
LOL!
>--Elocutus
>"What do you mean I can't have him killed? It's my BIRTHDAY!"
"Dija ever see the episode of Freakazoid where The Lobe makes him
think he's got to fulfil everyone's wishes for the day?":)
Gesi
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every
four Americans is suffering from some form of mental
illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're
okay,then it's you.
-Rita Mae Brown
> I wish everyone in the world would put down their guns and their knives
> and renounce violence forever.
>
> That way, I could take over the planet with a butter knife.
And then the cosmonauts on Mir would return and take it away from you. :-)
--
Leonard Erickson (aka Nemo) kal...@krypton.rain.com
"Nature abhors an atmosphere.
Check your suit.
Check your buddy's suit."
--
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Elocutus of Borg wrote in message <883782692...@dejanews.com>...
:I wish everyone in the world would put down their guns and their knives
:and renounce violence forever.
:
:That way, I could take over the planet with a butter knife.
We return you now to the Dilbert Cartoon already in progress:
Dilbert: What's your position on gun ownership, Dogbert?
Dogbert: I believe everyone should have the right to own guns.
Dilbert: What about automatic weapons?
Dogbert: I'm all for them. Citizens should have bazookas and rocket
launchers, too. I believe that all citizens should have the weapons of
their choice. However I also believe that only *I* should have ammunition.
Because frankly, I wouldn't trust the rest of you goobers with anything more
deadly than string.
Dilbert: What about Charlton Heston?
Dogbert: I'd keep the string away from him.
EC Jester
1. If you can't change a situation, worrying is just a way to make it more
unpleasant. If you can change the situation, worrying clouds the mind and
makes change more difficult.
2. Happiness and misery are both choices.
3. If you know you're going to look back on today and laugh, you might as
well start laughing now.
--Elocutus of Borg (posted to alt.callahans 12/30/97)
Celine lifts her voice briefly in song:
"Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
Celine :-p
And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
Monk
That was Zen, This is Tao
Take the Eccentric Survey http://www.biznizweb.com/JamesFE/
: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
life?"
-banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
Gree...@juno.com wrote:
: In article <68sb8j$n...@camel18.mindspring.com>,
: stard...@mindspring.com (Lee S. Billings) wrote:
: >
: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
: >
: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
"Now Monk, we've been through this already... New Jersey may be a figment
of *your* imagination, but the folks from there get really upset when you
say they don't exist..." ;)
Cat-Dancing
>Gree...@juno.com wrote:
>
>: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
>
>: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
>
>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
>
>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
>life?"
>
> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
folks buy real beer."
Kate
Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
High Maintenance. And Worth It.
Who put a stop payment on my reality check?
k...@iname.com Weather on IRC
weather_...@mailcity.com
: > -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
: "Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
: from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
: folks buy real beer."
"Unfortunately, Kate, you're coming up against years of personal conviction.
Can you prove that you drove through Wyoming? Pictures can be faked. And
a sign saying "Wyoming" can be made by anyone. I know the truth - all that
pretty, open wilderness is where they're hiding the secret alien cloning
bases."
-bansfnordhee
Ahh, if it were so, the beach would be so much closer...
---MTR
(In-Real-Life, not far west of the shore town called Philadelphia, PA)
--
Matthew T. Russotto russ...@pond.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."
> I believe I heard k...@iname.com (Kate ) say:
>
>>On 7 Jan 1998 11:30:47 GMT, sidhe@hotblack (Rebecca Schoenberg) did
>>scrawl:
>>
>>>Gree...@juno.com wrote:
>>>
>>>: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
>>>
>>>: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
>>>
>>>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
>>>
>>>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
>>>life?"
>>>
>>> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
>>
>>"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
>>from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
>>folks buy real beer."
>>
>>Kate
>>Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
>>High Maintenance. And Worth It.
>
> "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
> Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
As a loyal follower of the late Tom McCall (former governor of Oregon)
and in the tradition of the "Oregon Un-Greeting Cards". I must assure
you that it is Oregon that doesn't exist.
>On 7 Jan 1998 11:30:47 GMT, sidhe@hotblack (Rebecca Schoenberg) did
>scrawl:
>
>>Gree...@juno.com wrote:
>>
>>: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
>>
>>: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
>>
>>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
>>
>>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
>>life?"
>>
>> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
>
>"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
>from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
>folks buy real beer."
>
>Kate
>Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
>High Maintenance. And Worth It.
"No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
Gesi
Lauging with someone is as close as you can get to
them without hugging them.
-Regina Barreca
: "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
: Nebraska.
"Sorry, not good enough. Anybody can *claim* to be from Nebraska.
And you can be darned tootin' sure those clones won't claim they came from
Area 51..."
: ... I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
"Nope, Iowa's there. Been there myself a number of times, visiting my
grandmother. And Grandma sure as heck wasn't no guv'mint plant, I can
tell you...."
-Umbran, who expects that it
is really Washington DC that
doesn't have an objective
existance
> I believe I heard k...@iname.com (Kate ) say:
>
> >On 7 Jan 1998 11:30:47 GMT, sidhe@hotblack (Rebecca Schoenberg) did
> >scrawl:
> >
> >>Gree...@juno.com wrote:
> >>
> >>: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
> >>
> >>: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
> >>
> >>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
> >>
> >>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
> >>life?"
> >>
> >> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
> >
> >"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
> >from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
> >folks buy real beer."
> >
> >Kate
> >Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
> >High Maintenance. And Worth It.
>
> "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
> Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
>
> Gesi
"Hey! Then where's Rivka? No, I think it's probably Florida that doesn't
exist..."
Laura
storyteller, folklorist, dreamer
Monk:
> >>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
Banshee:
> >>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
> >>life?"
> >>
> >> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
Kate:
> >"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
> >from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
> >folks buy real beer."
> >
> >Kate
> >Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
> >High Maintenance. And Worth It.
Gesi:
> "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
> Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
Bill can assure y'all that New Jersey, and Wyoming, and Nebraska, and Iowa
all exist. I've driven through them all. Three within the past few months.
I haven't been in Wyoming since 1976, but I'll take Kate's word it's still
there.
(And planning to drive through New Jersey tomorrow, for that matter.)
They all have something memorable about them too. Southern New Jersey is
beautiful, with Cape May and the lovely historical areas around it.
Wyoming's mountains and chaparral are beautiful in a wild sort of fashion.
Iowa has the high rolling farm country of the northern great plains (and
Rivka, and Freddy). Nebraska has 75 mph speed limits, and the "penis of
the plains", it's unforgettable state capitol building. (Very tall tower
with a dome on top. And at the _very_ tip top, a statue of 'the sower of
the seed'. You can see it for miles as you approach Lincoln from the west.
It slowly rises above the flat Nebraska horizon. Some architect had a
sense of humor.)
--
Bill Gawne, in Callahan's as in real life. <ga...@pha.jhu.edu>
Senior Science Instrument Operations Analyst, Far Ultraviolet Spectroscopic
Explorer. Retired Master Sergeant USMCR. Nothing I post in alt.callahans
represents an official position of any organization.
On the web: http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~gawne
[descending from the rafters]
Funny...I've always felt that Washington doesn't exist. To prove my
point, a simulated conversation between my mother and another tourist,
one summer vacation: (This is simulated, but similar conversations
happened several times with only variations in the script)
Tourist: So, where are you folks from?
Mom: Washington.
T: Really! And how's the weather on the East Coast?
M: I mean, Washington State.
T: (look of confusion)
I'm not saying that the people in WA don't exist - that would be a nasty
paradox to resolve. It's just that a lot of Americans seem to have this
map in their heads with Seattle up in the northwest part of the US,
surrounded by a patch of land with no name that's about the size of a
state.
Peter Eng - Representative, Department of Stupid Ideas
>"No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
Nebraska. I
>thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
Ali looks puzzled. "No, that can't be right. My ex is from Iowa - so, while
it's not *all* there, it is there...I always thought it was Idaho that wasn't
really there..."
Ali ;-)
If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
> Bill can assure y'all that New Jersey, and Wyoming, and Nebraska, and Iowa
> all exist. I've driven through them all. Three within the past few months.
> I haven't been in Wyoming since 1976, but I'll take Kate's word it's still
> there.
Yep....it's them itty bitty towns in South Texas that don't exist...
I once dated a guy from Kingsville, Texas (about an hour in from Corpus
Christi). He took me driving around to London, Texas and Riviera, Texas and (I
think the name was) Beeville, Texas.
And yanno what? None of 'em are THERE! No people, no buildings, nuttin'. Well,
save a few cows placidly staring at you (it's serious COW COUNTRY in South
Texas).
Or Little Lake, California, on the I-395 headed up to Mammoth and Tahoe. A
broken-down gas station, a small pond, and an abandoned neon-pink hotel that
looks like a cathouse out of the Ponderosa days.
>
Gesi Rovario <grov...@san.rr.com> wrote:
: "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've
>met people who claim to be from
: Nebraska.
"Sorry, not good enough.
>Anybody can *claim* to be from Nebraska.
And you can be darned tootin' sure
>those clones won't claim they came from
Area 51..."
: ... I thought it was
>Iowa that really isn't there."
"Nope, Iowa's there. Been there myself a
>number of times, visiting my
grandmother. And Grandma sure as heck wasn't no
>guv'mint plant, I can
tell you...."
-Umbran, who expects that it
>is really Washington DC that doesn't have an objective existance
You're ALL wrong. It's Missouri. How do I know? One time on a cross country
trip, I had to "pass through" (HAH!) what purported to be Missouri. I crossed
the "border" (Double HAH!) with the Welcome to... sign. That's the last thing I
remember until I was in Kansas. There was nothing where Missouri was supposed
to be, or I would have remembered more of it.
Dusty
Posted and e-mailed(-I hope)
>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Gesi Rovario wrote:
>
>> I believe I heard k...@iname.com (Kate ) say:
>>
>> >On 7 Jan 1998 11:30:47 GMT, sidhe@hotblack (Rebecca Schoenberg) did
>> >scrawl:
>> >
>> >>Gree...@juno.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>: > "Falling down on New Jersey, me boys, falling down on New Jersey..."
>> >>
>> >>: And another voice is heard from near the Virtual Pizza Machine:
>> >>
>> >>: 'New Jersey doesn't exist...'
>> >>
>> >>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen years of my
>> >>life?"
>> >>
>> >> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
>> >
>> >"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I moved
>> >from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
>> >folks buy real beer."
>> >
>> >Kate
>> >Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
>> >High Maintenance. And Worth It.
>>
>> "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
>> Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
>>
>> Gesi
>
>"Hey! Then where's Rivka? No, I think it's probably Florida that doesn't
>exist..."
I can't handle the idea. If there were no Florida, then there would be
no Fort Lauderdale, no Busted Flush, no Travis McGee. Florida's got to
exist. (besides I've been there).
Hmm.
Kate
Who's now in a state of confusion
High Maintenance. And Worth It.
Who put a stop payment on my reality check?
> >>"Does, too. Otherwise, where did I spend the first seventeen
years of my
> >>life?"
> >> -banshee, who knows that Wyoming is the state that doesn't exist
> >"Banshee, I beg to differ. I had to drive through Wyoming when I
moved
> >from Salt Lake to Nashville. It's there. It's also where some Utah
> >folks buy real beer."
> >Kate
> >Who's pretty sure Nebraska is the one that really isn't there
> >High Maintenance. And Worth It.
> "No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
> Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
"I hope to hell that Iowa exists, considering I'm driving there in
a month or so."
Pixel leans over and whispers conspiritorialy
"I'll let you in on a secret, Conneticut doesn't really exist. Take
it from someone who contributed to the farce for the first 18 years
of his life. There is nothing to Conneticut except detailed matte
paintings along the border, and along the highway. We just pretend
that there really is a state, in actuality, everyone is hiding out in
New York."
Pixel (tired of living a lie)
--
the best thing you've ever done for me
Is to help me take my life less seriously,
it's only life after all. -Indigo Girls-
* Pi...@ids.net * * http://users.ids.net/~pixel *
In article <34b42108.4128247@news-server>,
Gesi Rovario <grov...@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>"No, no, Nebraska's there. I've met people who claim to be from
>Nebraska. I thought it was Iowa that really isn't there."
>
Rivka's jaw drops. "Oh, is *that* why they offered me so much money to go
to school here? Because there *is* no 'Iowa' in the 'University of Iowa?'"
She reflects for a moment, then smiles. "I guess that means the semester
can't possibly be starting next week, huh?"
--
__________________________________________________________________________
Rebecca L. Wald |"To have all the time in the world to devote to love
graduate student | may be idyllic for a summer, but linked sweetness long
U Iowa Psych Dept.| drawn out is the greater luxury." -Robertson Davies
Rivka starts jumping up and down with glee. "Pixel, now you've said it in
public, and that means I get to *hold* you to it. Yay!"