Brighter days to come
Marten Kemp
in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
"They're *tiny* ."
I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
When do you want to fix 'em?"
I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
for Monday morning.
They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
very alert.
I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
the denizens here know what's happening.
--
-- Marten Kemp (Fix ISP to reply)
You can't help being ignorant 'cause there's always
something you don't know; what you can't be is stupid.
Cindy Wells
Cindy Wells
Kathy Fitz
wrote:
<snip>
>
> I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
> a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
> ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
> me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
> When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
> I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
> That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
> for Monday morning.
>
Good luck! I have a degenerative cornea condition myself, so I will
be curious to hear how it goes.
--Kathy
Margo
Cataract surgery has got to be one of the most beneficial and simple
procedures (when all goes well, and it pretty much always does). It
will make a big difference to your quality of life, especially given
that you are very visually oriented. Good luck and fast healing...
Margo
David
<marte...@thisplanet-link.net> typed:
>Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
>in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
>I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
>"They're *tiny* ."
>
>I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
>a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
>ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
>me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
>When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
>I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
>That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
>for Monday morning.
>
>They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
>My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
>which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
>awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
>very alert.
>
>I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
>the denizens here know what's happening.
Healing thoughts on the way for a successful outcome.
--
David
No email replies please.
A visit to a strange place will bring fresh work.
John W. Vinson
>That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
>for Monday morning.
>
Cool. Hope it goes smoothly and makes a difference.
Do try to note changes in color perception - I've asked some folks who've had
cataracts replaced about it, and some saw color changes and some didn't notice
(but weren't looking for them).
--
John the Wysard JVinson *at* Wysard Of Info *dot* com
Wes Struebing
<marte...@thisplanet-link.net> wrote:
>Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
>in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
>I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
>"They're *tiny* ."
>
>I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
>a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
>ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
>me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
>When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
>I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
>That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
>for Monday morning.
>
>They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
>My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
>which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
>awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
>very alert.
>
>I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
>the denizens here know what's happening.
Sending good ocularthoughts out to you, sir! May your eyesight soon
be shipshape again! And your healing be swift and uncomplicated!
--
Wes Struebing
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
Homepage: www.carpedementem.org
linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/wesstruebing
Hanging Jester
@aioe.org:
> Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
> in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
> I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
> "They're *tiny* ."
>
> I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
> a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
> ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
> me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
> When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
> I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
> That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
> for Monday morning.
>
> They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
> My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
> which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
> awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
> very alert.
>
> I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
> the denizens here know what's happening.
>
(Jester hold's his glass up in a toast.)
Here's looking at you kid.
Oops, I mean, we'll see you later. ..No, I, er..
Sorry, I have to learn to watch what I say.
Oh, wait, that's not the impression I want to leave you with.
...Gawk!...
I appear to be at a loss for the proper words. Let me just say that we
are all hoping you have a quick recovery, with your having exellent
vision.
"Whew!"
~ Jester
Ree
> Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
> in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
> I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
> "They're *tiny* ."
>
> I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
> a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
> ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
> me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
> When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
> I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
> That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
> for Monday morning.
>
> They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
> My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
> which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
> awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
> very alert.
>
> I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
> the denizens here know what's happening.
>
Congratumalations! You're going to love it when you can see again.
Ree
Desideria
<marte...@thisplanet-link.net> wrote:
>Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
>in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
>I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
>"They're *tiny* ."
>
>I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
>a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
>ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
>me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
>When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
>I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
>That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
>for Monday morning.
>
>They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
>My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
>which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
>awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
>very alert.
>
>I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
>the denizens here know what's happening.
Thanks, dear! Good thoughts sent, and a truckload of Pepsi is waiting
for delivery to you for recovery.
Desideria
MajorOz
> >That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
> >for Monday morning.
>
> Cool. Hope it goes smoothly and makes a difference.
>
> Do try to note changes in color perception - I've asked some folks who've had
> cataracts replaced about it, and some saw color changes and some didn't notice
> (but weren't looking for them).
I first noticed that I could quit frantically scrubbing my bathroom
walls. They actually WERE white, not the yellow they looked like in
the soft bulb light.
Then my lovely marron bedspread actually turned out to be purple.
Ah, such is life.
And then the implants enable me to go without glasses for the first
time since the age of eleven.
And it took about 25 minutes for each eye.
A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
developed under socialized medicine )
Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
cheers
oz
David
<Maj...@centurytel.net> typed:
Not all of the recent, or not so recent, medical advances were
developed in the USA. In fact many of them were developed in countries
which have some form of socialised medicine since the doctors are able
to see more patients with the same sort of problem without having to
worry about covering the costs.
In the case of eye cataracts I seem to recall that a doctor named Fred
Hallows was one of the prime developers. He hailed from Australia
which does have a form of socialised medicine.
--
David
No email replies please.
FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #5 A:The Halls of
Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli. Q:Name two families whose kids
won't join the Marines.
Tim Merrigan
Radial Keratotomy, developed in the Soviet Union, if they didn't have
socialized medicine I don't know who would.
--
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and to the republic which it established, one nation, from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
Feel free to use the above variant pledge in your own postings.
Tim Merrigan
Chris Zakes
caused Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
><Maj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
(snip)
>>A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
>>developed under socialized medicine )
>>
>>Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>oz
>
>Radial Keratotomy, developed in the Soviet Union, if they didn't have
>socialized medicine I don't know who would.
Really? Googling "radial keratotomy history" I find that
http://www.clario.de/english/refractive_surgery/history/ says:
"J. Lans, working in Leiden, the Netherlands, published in 1898 the
results of his experiments in rabbits, employing keratectomy,
keratotomy and thermokeratoplasty to treat astigmatism."
and
"In 1933, T. Sato working in Tokyo observed by accident the flattening
of a patient's cornea due to an acute break in Descement's membrane
developed by a keratoconus. This gave him the idea of making incisions
in order to cure keratoconus, astigmatism and myopia. His work was
based on many anterior and posterior radial incisions into the cornea.
Sato operated on approximately 680 eyes between 1951 and 1959."
and further
"B.S. Yenaliev, working in the Soviet Union, was aware of the oedema
that resulted from Sato's posterior incisions, and confined his
research to keratotomy incisions through the anterior cornea only.
Between 1969 and 1977 he performed his anterior radial keratotomy in
426 eyes."
http://www.lasersite.com/techinfo.htm says that
"The first records regarding incisions in the cornea to improve vision
date to the 19th century. In the early 1970's, modern day radial
keratotomy was given birth by a group of Russian ophthalmologists."
So it appears that all the Soviets did was refine an existing
technique, not develop one.
-Chris Zakes
Texas
"We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they're elected. Don't you?"
"Why?"
"It saves time."
-Terry Pratchett, "The Last Continent"
David
typed:
Which was still a procedure developed in a country with a social
medical structure and not in the USA.
--
David
No email replies please.
Q:Why did the tachyon cross the road? A:Because it was on the other side.
Jette Goldie
Indeed - LOTS of medical and surgical procedures are DEVELOPED in
countries with socialised medicine - and then taken up by countries
without, where it will then cost an arm and a leg.
--
Jette Goldie
jette....@gmail.com
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Jette Goldie
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:14:05 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
>> <Maj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> (snip)
>
>>> A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
>>> developed under socialized medicine )
>>>
>>> Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> oz
>> Radial Keratotomy, developed in the Soviet Union, if they didn't have
>> socialized medicine I don't know who would.
>
> Really? Googling "radial keratotomy history" I find that
> http://www.clario.de/english/refractive_surgery/history/ says:
>
> "J. Lans, working in Leiden, the Netherlands, published in 1898 the
> results of his experiments in rabbits, employing keratectomy,
> keratotomy and thermokeratoplasty to treat astigmatism."
>
>
the Netherlands also has socialised medicine - but the USSR really
pushed the boat out with radial keratomy - they were performing it on
the assembly line process (almost). As a result it has had more "real
world" testing than it would have otherwise.
Marten Kemp
> Several years ago I was told that I had "incipient cataracts"
> in both eyes and new glasses wouldn't provide better vision.
> I asked if they could be fixed and the ophthalmologist said,
> "They're *tiny* ."
>
> I finally got fed up with steadily declining eyesight (I'm
> a computer geek with a very visual lifestyle). The first
> ophthalmologist said, "Yep, you've got cataracts." He sent
> me to a specialist who said, "Yep, you've got cataracts.
> When do you want to fix 'em?"
>
> I looked at my watch and joked, "You have time today?"
>
> That was Thursday. Turns out that an appointment was available
> for Monday morning.
>
> They're going to fix my left eye first 'cause it's the weakest.
> My only concern is that I'm scheduled for the surgery at 0740,
> which is quite a bit earlier than I'm accustomed to being
> awake. I have a ride arranged so I guess I don't have to be
> very alert.
>
> I'm not at all worried about this; I just wanted to let
> the denizens here know what's happening.
Wow! I just took the bandage off and everything is a *lot*
brighter. The vision in my left eye without glasses is almost
as good as it was _with_ glasses, so I have guarded opimism
for the final outcome.
Thanks to all who responded, and I'll be posting updates
as things improve.
PhoenixWench
PhoenixWench
John W. Vinson
<marte...@thisplanet-link.net> wrote:
>Wow! I just took the bandage off and everything is a *lot*
>brighter. The vision in my left eye without glasses is almost
>as good as it was _with_ glasses, so I have guarded opimism
>for the final outcome.
Hooray! Congratulations. <now are there any Goodwenches around who'd like
to... erm... "flash" Marten?>
Wes Struebing
<marte...@thisplanet-link.net> wrote:
WONDERFUL! (still sending goodvision thoughts to you!)
...and a BOYC when you can partake again!
--
Wes Struebing
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
Chris Zakes
caused Jette Goldie <jgold...@btinternet.com> to write:
>Chris Zakes wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:14:05 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
>> caused Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
>>> <Maj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> (snip)
>>
>>>> A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
>>>> developed under socialized medicine )
>>>>
>>>> Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> oz
>>> Radial Keratotomy, developed in the Soviet Union, if they didn't have
>>> socialized medicine I don't know who would.
>>
>> Really? Googling "radial keratotomy history" I find that
>> http://www.clario.de/english/refractive_surgery/history/ says:
>>
>> "J. Lans, working in Leiden, the Netherlands, published in 1898 the
>> results of his experiments in rabbits, employing keratectomy,
>> keratotomy and thermokeratoplasty to treat astigmatism."
>>
>>
>
>the Netherlands also has socialised medicine - but the USSR really
>pushed the boat out with radial keratomy - they were performing it on
>the assembly line process (almost). As a result it has had more "real
>world" testing than it would have otherwise.
The Netherlands had socialized medicine in 1898? That seems a little
unlikely.
-Chris Zakes
Texas
It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged.
-G.K. Chesterton
Chris Zakes
Japan had socialized medicine in the 1930s? That seems unlikely.
And who has claimed that the US developed RK surgery? I didn't, and
neither did Major Oz.
David
typed:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:44:23 +1030, an orbital mind-control laser
>caused David <faro...@picknowl.com.au> to write:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:34:47 -0600, Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com>
>>typed:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:14:05 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
>>>caused Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
>>>><Maj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>>>>A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
>>>>>developed under socialized medicine )
>>>>>
>>>>>Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>>>>>
>>>>
[...]
>
>And who has claimed that the US developed RK surgery? I didn't, and
>neither did Major Oz.
>
The implication contained in Major Oz' statement is that no medical
advances had ever been made, nor indeed ever could be made, under a
socialised medical atmosphere. I disagree with him as many of the most
recent medical advances have been made in Australia where there is a
form of socialised medicine.
--
David
No email replies please.
You never know how many friends you have until you rent a house on the
beach.
Tom the Alien Cat
wrote:
Praise God, that is good news! So glad to hear it.
tom tac
MajorOz
> Chris Zakes wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:14:05 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
> > caused Tim Merrigan <t...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>
> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
> >> <Majo...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > (snip)
>
> >>> A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
> >>> developed under socialized medicine )
>
> >>> Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>
> >>> cheers
>
> >>> oz
> >> Radial Keratotomy, developed in the Soviet Union, if they didn't have
> >> socialized medicine I don't know who would.
>
> > Really? Googling "radial keratotomy history" I find that
> >http://www.clario.de/english/refractive_surgery/history/says:
>
> > "J. Lans, working in Leiden, the Netherlands, published in 1898 the
> > results of his experiments in rabbits, employing keratectomy,
> > keratotomy and thermokeratoplasty to treat astigmatism."
>
> the Netherlands also has socialised medicine - but the USSR really
> pushed the boat out with radial keratomy - they were performing it on
> the assembly line process (almost). As a result it has had more "real
> world" testing than it would have otherwise.
That was the one that had the surgeon (or the "performer"), with a
couple assistants, in place, with patients on a carousel, sequencing
into place. I recall seeing (pardon the pun) that set up in a med
journal in the late 70's.
Looked very much like the carousel milkers popular with some of the
local dairy folks -- and about as personal.
cheers
oz........but, what the hell; it's the results that count, right ?
MajorOz
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:40:13 -0600, Chris Zakes <donti...@gmail.com>
> typed:
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:44:23 +1030, an orbital mind-control laser
>
> >>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:34:47 -0600, Chris Zakes <donti...@gmail.com>
> >>typed:
>
> >>>On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:14:05 -0800, an orbital mind-control laser
> >>>caused Tim Merrigan <t...@ca.rr.com> to write:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:49:22 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
> >>>><Majo...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >>>>>A toast to modern surgery. ( wonder if it would ever have been
> >>>>>developed under socialized medicine )
>
> >>>>>Note, I said DEVELOPED, not offered.
>
> [...]
>
> >And who has claimed that the US developed RK surgery? I didn't, and
> >neither did Major Oz.
>
> The implication contained in Major Oz' statement is that no medical
> advances had ever been made, nor indeed ever could be made, under a
> socialised medical atmosphere.
Not my implication; just your inference.
>... many of the most
> recent medical advances have been made in Australia where there is a
> form of socialised medicine.
You are, of course, correct........for whatever convenient form of
"many" you wish to use.
cheers
oz, with "many" talents
Margo
If it was *you* that was going blind, Oz, what would you prefer?