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betnoir

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Oct 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/3/99
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OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.

I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

Black feather wings....
Black halo...
Black and red satin corset...
Black leather motorcycle jacket...
Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
for fencing)...

I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
bloodloss....

BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...

--
BetN, Goddess of Pith and Vinegar -- NEVER parry with your
head
'Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his
hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats' --
H.L. Mencken
'To desire the end is to desire the means' -- Draka


RUS149104

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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p&e

_That_ outfit will deserve a photo or ten.
(I wouldn't mind seeing one myself...)

does a fallen angel eat devil's food cake, or
just 'fallen' angelfood cake?

oh, and how many fallen angels can dance
on the head of a rapier? (I doubt a pin
would be your speed, Bet. you prefer
_useful_ lengths of sharp metal, no?)

Rusty the bookman
who tried 'John Wayne Kirk' as a costume
- once!

Don Paul

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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betnoir wrote in message <37F83374...@earthlink.net>...

>OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.

DonPaul saw the post...and deleted it in case the children started
snooping...

My partner very nearly received the benefit of the bloodloss to the head...
but a messenger came in and saved her hide.

You're an evil woman.
A very evil woman.


de Doc

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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In article <7ta4ak$e8r$1...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, "Don Paul" <d...@1-2-1.co.za>
wrote:

Now I will be hearing ELO all morning.

I WONT get it out of my head... ;-)

But then again, I'll be seeing it.

Heh heh heh...

de Doc, who has some idears of his own for LosCon... which should scare
any surviving fanboys

jhe...@my-deja.com

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>,

bet...@earthlink.net wrote:
> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
<snipped>

<Drool>

--
Jim

"Build a better mousetrap and the world will build a better mouse."
Anon.


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Froog T. SqueezyCheese

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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betnoir wrote:

> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>

> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>
> Black feather wings....
> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...

> I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
> many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
> bloodloss....

I notice you don't mention anything about pants or a skirt. <lifted
eyebrow> Exactly _how_ hard are you trying to get to the fanboys? Or
does the corset cover that?

> BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...

I can imagine.

> --
> BetN, Goddess of Pith and Vinegar -- NEVER parry with your
> head
> 'Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his
> hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats' --
> H.L. Mencken
> 'To desire the end is to desire the means' -- Draka

--
Froog T. SqueezyCheese
(ask me about my Rocky Horror costume)


betnoir

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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Don Paul wrote:

> My partner very nearly received the benefit of the bloodloss to the head...
> but a messenger came in and saved her hide.
>
> You're an evil woman.
> A very evil woman.

Uhhmmm....

LSDeborah nearly passed out from bloodloss?

Uhhmmm....

betnoir

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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Froog T. SqueezyCheese wrote:

> I notice you don't mention anything about pants or a skirt. <lifted
> eyebrow> Exactly _how_ hard are you trying to get to the fanboys? Or
> does the corset cover that?

Yes...along with the black lace panties.

> > BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...
>
> I can imagine.

Tho' I suspect that costume may not be a good fit for my 'How Come You
Don't Hit Like a Girl' panel at LosCon....

> Froog T. SqueezyCheese
> (ask me about my Rocky Horror costume)

Ask *me* about helping my friend Kory make his FrankNFurter costume.
There's a Vickie's Secret salesgirl who will NEVER be the same again...

John Vinson

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:56:20 -0700, betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
>I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

John the Wysard exercises his not-inconsiderable visualization skills
contemplating this image.

He faints.

When he recovers consciousness he drags himself to the Hot Tub
(fortunately it's set at a rather low temperature) and plunges in; a
large cloud of steam obscures that section of the bar for a few
minutes.

Finally he manages to say, "Sounds like a good choice, Bet. Post a
pic, eh?"

Liana Olear

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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John Vinson <jvi...@cyberSPAMLESShighway.net> wrote:
<snip>

: When he recovers consciousness he drags himself to the Hot Tub


: (fortunately it's set at a rather low temperature) and plunges in; a
: large cloud of steam obscures that section of the bar for a few
: minutes.

Do we, perhaps, need a Cold Shower next to the Hot Tub? :)

Liana

se...@nomaps.izzy.net

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betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.

> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

> Black feather wings....


> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...

> I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
> many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
> bloodloss....

> BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...

I'm, uhhhhh, gonna go sit down for a while. If I can make it to a
chair before my knees give out.

--
Sandy
Be a trend-setter, take responsibility for the results of your actions.
I don't speak for anyone but myself, and sometimes not even that.

Ben Addleman

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betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<37F8B52C...@earthlink.net>...


> Froog T. SqueezyCheese wrote:
>
> > I notice you don't mention anything about pants or a skirt. <lifted
> > eyebrow> Exactly _how_ hard are you trying to get to the fanboys? Or
> > does the corset cover that?
>
> Yes...along with the black lace panties.

Oh, hell.
Now look what you made me do. Thanks a _lot_, bet!

Ben Addleman

John Vinson

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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On 4 Oct 1999 19:08:11 GMT, Liana Olear <lol...@cs.buffalo.edu> wrote:


>Do we, perhaps, need a Cold Shower next to the Hot Tub? :)

After discreetly admiring some of the GoodWenches disporting
themselves therein, the Wysard replies, "Good location."

Kirsten M. Berry

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(posted, emailed, and cc'ed to the Sniper)

betnoir looked up from the want-ads, turned to me and said:

}OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
}
}I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
}
}Black feather wings....
}Black halo...
}Black and red satin corset...
}Black leather motorcycle jacket...
}Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
}High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
}for fencing)...
}
}I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
}many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
}bloodloss....

M'lady, the Sniper has been trying for months to get me interested in
going to LosCon. The convention we used to go to over T'giving
weekend is on (what I expect to be permanent) hiatus, and he wants to
see how the other half of the state cons. I have plenty of valid
reasons to not want to go - we can't afford both planefare for two
*and* two nights' hotel accommodations, we sure as hell aren't going
to want to DRIVE the 400 miles after doing same on a daily basis for
the busiest travel holiday of the year....

You just obliterated all of that.

Wear the outfit? Please?

K`shandra
being very careful not to drool
--
Kirsten M. Berry, Techno-Dyke at Large ksha...@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~kshandra/ Home of the Samurai Webmistress
Once you've come out as a pagan, bisexual, married leatherdyke,
everything else in life is that much easier.

Kevin Ahearn

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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>On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:56:20 -0700, betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>>
>>I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>
>John the Wysard exercises his not-inconsiderable visualization skills
>contemplating this image.
>
>He faints.
>
>When he recovers consciousness he drags himself to the Hot Tub
>(fortunately it's set at a rather low temperature) and plunges in; a
>large cloud of steam obscures that section of the bar for a few
>minutes.
>
>Finally he manages to say, "Sounds like a good choice, Bet. Post a
>pic, eh?"
>
>

Let me see if I've got this straight.

Patrons left and right have been drooling, fainting, and hyperventilating over
a _description_ of Bet's Halloween costume.

And you think you can handle seeing a photo of the real thing?

You're a braver man than I, John.

--Kevin, who would actually like to see the pic himself, but doesn't think he's
old enough.
"At the end of every hard-earned day, people find some reason to believe."
--Bruce Springsteen

Remove shooting star to reply.

Attn spammers: I will never, under any circumstances, purchase any good or
service advertised in an unsolicited e-mail.

Chris Wesling

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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betnoir wrote:
>
> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>
> Black feather wings....
> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...

May I be the first to make the traditional Usenet cry?

"GIF, GIF!"

> I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
> many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
> bloodloss....

Next question: when/where exactly is LosCon? (I am now contem-
plating attending for at least a day or two if it's not TOO near
in the future.)

> BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...

Not often enough, dear BetNoir! Not often enough at all. <VBEG>

Chris W.
--
(Email munged; spell my name as Christopher to email me.)

"I have abandoned my search for truth and am now looking for a
good fantasy." - Ashleigh Brilliant

Genise Ghee

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betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37F83374...@earthlink.net...

| OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
|
| I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

<snip>

When/where is LosCon?

gog
who doesn't know if she want to go to see the
costume, or the bloodloss...

Shannon West

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betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37F83374...@earthlink.net...
> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>
> Black feather wings....
> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...

Wow! What an idea!

> I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
> many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
> bloodloss....

Heh! Reminds me of the Hallowe'en when I dressed as Elvira. <VBEG>

--
MorphWench ~ Gratch

"I never learned nothin' from playin' it safe
I say fate should not tempt me"
Mary Chapin Carpenter - I Take My Chances

I p&e by default. Please post & e-mail anything you want me to see.
Thanks.


betnoir

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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Chris Wesling wrote:

> Next question: when/where exactly is LosCon? (I am now contem-
> plating attending for at least a day or two if it's not TOO near
> in the future.)

LosCon is the local LA area con, at the Burbank Airport Hilton.
Over Thankysday weekend.

betnoir

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Kirsten M. Berry wrote:

> M'lady, the Sniper has been trying for months to get me interested in
> going to LosCon. The convention we used to go to over T'giving
> weekend is on (what I expect to be permanent) hiatus, and he wants to
> see how the other half of the state cons. I have plenty of valid
> reasons to not want to go - we can't afford both planefare for two
> *and* two nights' hotel accommodations, we sure as hell aren't going
> to want to DRIVE the 400 miles after doing same on a daily basis for
> the busiest travel holiday of the year....

Do come down! It's not half bad, for a local con.

> You just obliterated all of that.
>
> Wear the outfit? Please?
>
> K`shandra
> being very careful not to drool

Aww....spit!

Between you willing to drive 400 miles, and Dr.Bill promising me his
BlackWilliam Aspect...

I might just gots to!

WareWolf

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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[This followup was posted to alt.callahans and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]

So then betnoir goes:

> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>
> Black feather wings....
> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...


The sound of typing from the rafters momentarily ceases and a strange,
yet somehow familiar voice is heard in the Place....

aaHOMinaHOMinaHOMinaHOMina...

"WareWolf's channeling Ralph Kramden again." Mike observes.

Dusty, who MUST have that picture

--
Simple Country Lawyer, Newspaper Columnist, and all-around smart-ass.
If you wonder if I'm kidding, then I probably am.

this week's column: http://www.angelfire.com/nc/dustyr/Buchanan.html

Duane E. Peters

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In article <AtX4N5Xlj1O9gr...@4ax.com>,
jvi...@cyberSPAMLESShighway.net wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:56:20 -0700, betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>

> >OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
> >
> >I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>

> John the Wysard exercises his not-inconsiderable visualization skills
> contemplating this image.
>
> He faints.
>
> When he recovers consciousness he drags himself to the Hot Tub
> (fortunately it's set at a rather low temperature) and plunges in; a
> large cloud of steam obscures that section of the bar for a few
> minutes.
>
> Finally he manages to say, "Sounds like a good choice, Bet. Post a
> pic, eh?"

Master Charles shakes his head...

And again...

And all he can dislodge in there is a reverent "A-freakin'-MEN, John!"

Master Charles Henri Beaufort
Keeper of the Crossed Keys Inn
(Pictures, we want pic...DOWN, fanboy *whack!*)

Jeanne Burton

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betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37F8B52C...@earthlink.net...

> Froog T. SqueezyCheese wrote:
> > Froog T. SqueezyCheese
> > (ask me about my Rocky Horror costume)
>
> Ask *me* about helping my friend Kory make his FrankNFurter costume.
> There's a Vickie's Secret salesgirl who will NEVER be the same again...

Y'all just went to the wrong Vicky's....ours wouldn't have blinked.
Course...Erin was doing Columbia when she was 9 years old in Toledo.
BTW, did you know that Vicky's averages close to 100 obscene phone calls a
week? That shocked me. Fredericks I could maybe understand a bit
more...they go more "erotic" than Vicky's. The new store in Toledo called
Nasty Girls I could REALLY understand....

Jeanne
who was a bit surprised to hear Erin's "customer of the day" story for
Saturday...a gentleman wearing leash, collar, and hospital gown with NOTHING
on under it wandered into the store, and tried on about 10 different teddies
and merry widows. The store was packed when he started. When he was
finished it was him, his partner, and salespeople.
Toledo is a bit provincial for that attire coming INTO the store...

Eleri

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:-o >OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
:-o >
:-o >I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
:-o >
:-o >Black feather wings....
:-o >Black halo...
:-o >Black and red satin corset...
:-o >Black leather motorcycle jacket...
:-o >Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
:-o >High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
:-o >for fencing)...
ooooooooooooo... I like this idea... can I steal it?

got the black denim jacket (with a purple pentacle none the less!) got
the red vinyl and chain top, got the black cutoffs and the black
fishnets...all I'd need are spiky heels, halo and wings.

Eleri, who was pondering going to Polyween as Fetish Dorothy, if she
didn't know the b*tch who came up with the idea was going to be
there...
~~Eleri~~
Mighty Lap Huntress and TempestWench

de Doc

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Oct 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/5/99
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In article <37f91cc2...@news.mindspring.com>, ksha...@mindspring.com
(Kirsten M. Berry) wrote:

>(posted, emailed, and cc'ed to the Sniper)
>
>betnoir looked up from the want-ads, turned to me and said:
>

>}OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>}

>}I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>}

>}Black feather wings....
>}Black halo...

>}Black and red satin corset...

>}Black leather motorcycle jacket...
>}Black lace stockings (seamed!)...

>}High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear

>}for fencing)...


>}
>}I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
>}many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
>}bloodloss....
>

>M'lady, the Sniper has been trying for months to get me interested in
>going to LosCon. The convention we used to go to over T'giving
>weekend is on (what I expect to be permanent) hiatus, and he wants to
>see how the other half of the state cons. I have plenty of valid
>reasons to not want to go - we can't afford both planefare for two
>*and* two nights' hotel accommodations, we sure as hell aren't going
>to want to DRIVE the 400 miles after doing same on a daily basis for
>the busiest travel holiday of the year....
>

>You just obliterated all of that.
>
>Wear the outfit? Please?

May I offer bonus inducements?

Dr. Bill's traveling swordshow can be there too... at least lightsaber
components thereof, including Double Bladed Sabers R Us. (Yes, we travel
that weekend.)

There may also be a special add-on costume to... complement?... the fallen
Angel, if I can off my duff gegetten.

de Doc, summoning the RealSpace

Don Paul

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>
>> My partner very nearly received the benefit of the bloodloss to the
head...
>> but a messenger came in and saved her hide.
>> You're an evil woman.
>> A very evil woman.
>Uhhmmm....
>LSDeborah nearly passed out from bloodloss?
>Uhhmmm....
>
No, my blonde anorexic business partner (the periodically unstable Noeline)
who on most days is so physically unappealing I can't imagine juggling her
bag-o-bones.
The LSD was elsewhere at the time.
Speaking of whom...did I mention she went peroxide blonde?
Achingly White...and for the first few days, caught me looking around for
Deborah in case she caught me in the house with this mystery blonde woman.

With her new flat gut and the cropped blonde top, she might be interested in
something leatherish for Christmas.

Don Paul is d...@1-2-1.co.za

Oscar Tango 121
Relationship Marketing
Cape Town
South Africa

Don Paul

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>> Froog T. SqueezyCheese
>> (ask me about my Rocky Horror costume)
>
>Ask *me* about helping my friend Kory make his FrankNFurter costume.

There was, some years back, a photo of one of the English Patients (Bill, I
think) in the full rig. I wonder where we filed it.

Bet...have you been drooling over the GoodWench Calendar again. Speak to me
gal, I'll give you some pointers and make up tips.

Fanboys...I love that concept.

Chris Wesling

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betnoir wrote:
>
> Chris Wesling wrote:
>
> > Next question: when/where exactly is LosCon? (I am now contem-
> > plating attending for at least a day or two if it's not TOO near
> > in the future.)
>
> LosCon is the local LA area con, at the Burbank Airport Hilton.
> Over Thankysday weekend.

Damn, that figures. Between visiting Freyja and attending my 20th
high school reunion, that is the worst possible weekend it could be.
Oh, well. Post some pictures? <making "Bambi eyes"> Pretty please??

Chris W.
--
(Email munged; spell my name as Christopher to email me.)

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." - Niels
Bohr, physicist.

Joy Scharmen

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Oct 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/6/99
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<grin>

reminds me of my "Evil Schoolgirl" costume I wore to LARP (Live Action
RolePlaying) the other night....

Black dress shirt, tied at waist, buttoned low for maximum cleavage...
Tiny plaid skirt
spiderweb lace thighhighs (back seamed)
Black boots (not pointy, docs because that was what I had)

Goth makeup....

leading my friend John by a dog collar and chain...

I was the Sidhe with the pet Sluagh....

Fun!
--
'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.
-- ka...@alagad.com
Joy Scharmen http://penguin.ofdoom.com

Wayne S Garmil

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In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>,

betnoir <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
>I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

[ Description deleted to allow my heart to slow down again ]

I have two comments:

one: DROOL!!!

two: Pictures! We want to see pictures!

I've seen black angel wings on people playing In Nomine, so I know
they exist. As for the rest, stop teasing us and show us already!

Excuse me, I need to check to see if the Folks room has a cold shower
in it. I think I need one right about now.

Wayne

--
_ __ _ __ | I see the girls walk by dressed in
' ) / // / / ) / | their summer clothes; I have to turn
/ / / o // __/ / __. __ __/ | my head until my darkness goes...
(_(_/ <_</_(_/ (__/ (_/|_/ (_(_/_ | (wga...@world.std.com)


Bill Longley

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Don Paul <d...@1-2-1.co.za> writes

>>> Froog T. SqueezyCheese
>>> (ask me about my Rocky Horror costume)
>>
>>Ask *me* about helping my friend Kory make his FrankNFurter costume.
>
>There was, some years back, a photo of one of the English Patients (Bill, I
>think) in the full rig.

<Sigh.> You go to ONE fifteen-way Rocky Horror Christmas Birthday Party
in July 1992 and someone still reminds you about the tawdry event all
those years later. I bet he'll even remember to post the URL
http://www.callahans.demon.co.uk/rhps2.jpg just to embarrass me...

--
Bill Longley

Leonard Erickson

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el...@aracnet.com (Eleri) writes:

> Eleri, who was pondering going to Polyween as Fetish Dorothy, if she
> didn't know the b*tch who came up with the idea was going to be
> there...

If you don't mind my asking...

Polyween?

Fetish Dorothy?

????!!!???

--
Leonard Erickson (aka Nemo) kal...@krypton.rain.com
"I would not take a bet against the existence of time machines.
My opponent might have seen the future and know the answer."
-- Stephen Hawking


Lizard

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On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, betnoir wrote:

> OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>
> I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>

> Black feather wings....
> Black halo...
> Black and red satin corset...
> Black leather motorcycle jacket...
> Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
> High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
> for fencing)...
>
> I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
> many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
> bloodloss....
>

> BetN, who doesn't show THAT Aspect terribly often...

"Oh my." Lizard stares at the vision of Bet in That Outfit. "Yea
and verily, and the Pyrate Queen shall be HOT SHIT."

Lizard,
bowing down and worshipping

"And I am far more terrible than you, my sister."
-- Dream to Death, 'Sandman'


Kevin Ahearn

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> "Oh my." Lizard stares at the vision of Bet in That Outfit. "Yea
>and verily, and the Pyrate Queen shall be HOT SHIT."
>

Then again, she usually is. :)

--Kevin, who admits that she might be even more so this Halloween.

Eleri

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On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:05:34 PST, kal...@krypton.rain.com (Leonard
Erickson) was rumoured to have said:

:-o >el...@aracnet.com (Eleri) writes:
:-o >
:-o >> Eleri, who was pondering going to Polyween as Fetish Dorothy, if she
:-o >> didn't know the b*tch who came up with the idea was going to be
:-o >> there...
:-o >
:-o >If you don't mind my asking...
:-o >
:-o >Polyween?

POlyween... the annual Halloween Bash for the poly-folk of Portland
:-o >Fetish Dorothy?

Yeah... see you get one of those blue gingham vinyl tablecloths, and
some white vinyl, and a square dance skirt that's bright red or black,
white bobbysocks and some 6 inch red heels...
Then you sew a Dorothy costume out of the vinyl, and glue red glitter
to the heels, and going Off To See The Wizard takes on a *whole* new
meaning... ;)
The wife of my ex thought up Fetish Dorothy...but she didn't know how
to make it work. Since I used to work in a fabric store, I knew what
was out there, and figured out how to pull it together.

Lee S. Billings

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In article <37ffe384...@news.aracnet.com>, el...@aracnet.com
says...

>:-o >Fetish Dorothy?
>
>Yeah... see you get one of those blue gingham vinyl tablecloths, and
>some white vinyl, and a square dance skirt that's bright red or black,
>white bobbysocks and some 6 inch red heels...
>Then you sew a Dorothy costume out of the vinyl, and glue red glitter
>to the heels, and going Off To See The Wizard takes on a *whole* new
>meaning... ;)
>The wife of my ex thought up Fetish Dorothy...but she didn't know how
>to make it work. Since I used to work in a fabric store, I knew what
>was out there, and figured out how to pull it together.

Sounds like an interesting idea! IYDMMA, why would this other person
being there keep you from doing it, since you say she doesn't have the
skills to put it together?

Celine

--
"Art comes from the heart, but the heart is instructed by the culture."

-- Janet Kagan, _HellSpark_


John Vinson

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On 10 Oct 1999 06:07:37 GMT, stard...@mindspring.com (Lee S.
Billings) wrote:


>Sounds like an interesting idea! IYDMMA, why would this other person
>being there keep you from doing it, since you say she doesn't have the
>skills to put it together?

"For that matter, if she *is* there, you could take her totally aback
by coming over and *thanking* her for the idea, and asking her opinion
of your execution of it...!" comments John the Wysard (carefully
refraining from exercising his all-too-effective ability to visualize
the effect...)

Antonia T. Tiger

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In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>
bet...@earthlink.net "betnoir" writes:

| OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
|
| I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
|
| Black feather wings....
| Black halo...
| Black and red satin corset...
| Black leather motorcycle jacket...
| Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
| High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
| for fencing)...
|
| I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
| many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
| bloodloss....

The tiger glances in a mirror...

"I wish I had the nerve to do that at a con..."

She pauses, and cocks her head to one side for a moment as she thinks.
"Black lace stockings, over fur?" She shrugs. "It wouldn't work for
me, would it..."


--
Antonia T. Tiger


Lee S. Billings

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In article <940853...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk>,
ant...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk says...

>
>In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>
> bet...@earthlink.net "betnoir" writes:
>
>| OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>|
>| I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>|
>| Black feather wings....
>| Black halo...
>| Black and red satin corset...
>| Black leather motorcycle jacket...
>| Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
>| High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
>| for fencing)...
>|
>| I am contemplating wearing this for LosCon and seeing how
>| many Vampire:Masquerade fanboys I can make pass out from
>| bloodloss....

This reminds me... out at the RenFaire last weekend, I encountered an
art booth with a picture that IS BetNoir the Pyrate Queen! If Bet wants
a copy, I'd be glad to pick one up for her; it was $30, matted but not
framed, and done rather in the style of Ruth Thompson but with more
realistic features. Dammit, now I'm blanking on the artist's name...
Nene somebody or other...

Antonia T. Tiger

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In article <940853...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk>

ant...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk "Antonia T. Tiger" writes:

| In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>
| bet...@earthlink.net "betnoir" writes:
|
| | OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
| |
| | I'm going as a Fallen Angel.

[snip]

| The tiger glances in a mirror...
|
| "I wish I had the nerve to do that at a con..."
|
| She pauses, and cocks her head to one side for a moment as she thinks.
| "Black lace stockings, over fur?" She shrugs. "It wouldn't work for
| me, would it..."

A thoroughly broken pair of handcuffs might be an effective accessory,
but it does rather depend on the style of kinkiness one feels
comfortable with....


--
Antonia T. Tiger


Venus FT Durona

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Oct 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/25/99
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Original message expired before I managed to delurk, therefore I'm
replying to this message

Antonia T. Tiger <ant...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk> said this, causing me to
choke in an unseemly and messy fashion:

>In article <37F83374...@earthlink.net>
> bet...@earthlink.net "betnoir" writes:
>
>| OK -- I have decided on my Halloween costume for this year.
>|
>| I'm going as a Fallen Angel.
>|

>| Black feather wings....
>| Black halo...
>| Black and red satin corset...
>| Black leather motorcycle jacket...
>| Black lace stockings (seamed!)...
>| High-heeled PointyBoots (as opposed to the flat ones I wear
>| for fencing)...

My planned costume for Samhain (guess who's going to be bucketing and
generally harassing people for money for the Beltane Fire Society? But
in a nice way, of course) was:

Dark red velvet corset with straps between the arms
Little black fairy wings
Black padlock rubber skirt
Top hat
High heeled 'engineer' boots
And sheer black tights.

Then I went to the walkthrough on Sunday. I got soaked, cold, and
generally bedraggled. So _now_ I have to figure out how to add scarf,
gloves and coat to this outfit without losing the 'Bondage Fairy'
flavour. Turning a delicate shade of blue would not look good, although
I suppose I could go for the sympathy vote.

>She pauses, and cocks her head to one side for a moment as she thinks.
>"Black lace stockings, over fur?" She shrugs. "It wouldn't work for
>me, would it..."

Black furry lace stockings... now _there's_ a thought. Warmer than
fishnets, probably better looking than tights.

--
Venus F.T. Durona.

Kirsten M. Berry

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(posted & emailed)

Venus FT Durona looked up from the want-ads, turned to me and said:

}
}My planned costume for Samhain (guess who's going to be bucketing and
}generally harassing people for money for the Beltane Fire Society? But
}in a nice way, of course) was:
}
}Dark red velvet corset with straps between the arms
}Little black fairy wings
}Black padlock rubber skirt
}Top hat
}High heeled 'engineer' boots
}And sheer black tights.
}
}Then I went to the walkthrough on Sunday. I got soaked, cold, and
}generally bedraggled. So _now_ I have to figure out how to add scarf,
}gloves and coat to this outfit without losing the 'Bondage Fairy'
}flavour. Turning a delicate shade of blue would not look good, although
}I suppose I could go for the sympathy vote.

Perhaps a black unitard/catsuit instead of the tights? Over-the-elbow
black gloves if the unitard is sleeveless; wrist-length ones if you
can find a long-sleeved unitard (they *do* exist).

K`shandra
who thinks her black unitard is the single most useful item of
clothing in her wardrobe
--
Kirsten M. Berry ksha...@mindspring.com K`shandra on IRC
MouseWench, Samurai Webmistress and Techno-Dyke at Large
"Forget the Global Village, I'm more interested in the Global Party."
-Gesi Rovario, in alt.callahans

John Vinson

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On 25 Oct 1999 15:52:24 GMT, stard...@mindspring.com (Lee S.
Billings) wrote:

>This reminds me... out at the RenFaire last weekend, I encountered an
>art booth with a picture that IS BetNoir the Pyrate Queen! If Bet wants
>a copy, I'd be glad to pick one up for her; it was $30, matted but not
>framed, and done rather in the style of Ruth Thompson but with more
>realistic features. Dammit, now I'm blanking on the artist's name...
>Nene somebody or other...

John the Wysard jumps up, starts to speak, and bites his tongue and
sputters.

"No... starting a bidding war would be most impolite..." he mutters.

John Vinson

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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:37:04 +0100, Venus FT Durona
<dur...@fell.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Original message expired before I managed to delurk, therefore I'm
>replying to this message

"Too late... you've delurked now!" exclaims John the Wysard, grinning
and welcoming his old friend back to the Place.

<Hug>

"BOYC?"


betnoir

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Lee S. Billings wrote:

> This reminds me... out at the RenFaire last weekend, I encountered an
> art booth with a picture that IS BetNoir the Pyrate Queen!

Shit! I told them to burn the negatives! :>

> If Bet wants
> a copy, I'd be glad to pick one up for her; it was $30, matted but not
> framed, and done rather in the style of Ruth Thompson but with more
> realistic features. Dammit, now I'm blanking on the artist's name...
> Nene somebody or other...

Uhh...this was't the promo pic that was being used for Bucconeer last year,
was it? The leggy blonde reclining in the chair with the rapier and
pistol?

Because that sure as Hades ain't me!

BetN, Celine should know that...she met me in person! :>

--
BetN, Goddess of Pith and Vinegar--NEVER parry with your head


'Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the

black flag, and begin slitting throats'--H.L. Mencken

Duane E. Peters

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In article <mfwUOKkvAiW3ZY...@4ax.com>,
jvi...@cyberSPAMLESShighway.net wrote:

> On 25 Oct 1999 15:52:24 GMT, stard...@mindspring.com (Lee S.

> Billings) wrote:
>
> >This reminds me... out at the RenFaire last weekend, I encountered an

> >art booth with a picture that IS BetNoir the Pyrate Queen! If Bet wants

> >a copy, I'd be glad to pick one up for her; it was $30, matted but not
> >framed, and done rather in the style of Ruth Thompson but with more
> >realistic features. Dammit, now I'm blanking on the artist's name...
> >Nene somebody or other...
>

> John the Wysard jumps up, starts to speak, and bites his tongue and
> sputters.
>
> "No... starting a bidding war would be most impolite..." he mutters.

Especially since NeNe Thomas sells *prints* of most of her work...

Master Charles Henri Beaufort
Keeper of the Crossed Keys Inn

(Who likes NeNe's stuff, but has paid money for Ruth Thompson & Larrry
Elmore...)

Lee S. Billings

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In article <3814FDDE...@earthlink.net>, bet...@earthlink.net
says...

>
>Lee S. Billings wrote:
>
>> This reminds me... out at the RenFaire last weekend, I encountered
>> an art booth with a picture that IS BetNoir the Pyrate Queen!
>
>Shit! I told them to burn the negatives! :>
>
>> If Bet wants a copy, I'd be glad to pick one up for her; it was $30,
matted but not
>> framed, and done rather in the style of Ruth Thompson but with more
>> realistic features. Dammit, now I'm blanking on the artist's name...
>> Nene somebody or other...
>
>Uhh...this was't the promo pic that was being used for Bucconeer last
>year, was it? The leggy blonde reclining in the chair with the rapier
>and pistol?
>
>Because that sure as Hades ain't me!
>
>BetN, Celine should know that...she met me in person! :>

Nope, this one is dark-haired and standing on a ship's deck. And it's
not "you/Bet" but "BetNoir" as I see the *virtual* character. I'm not
saying this very well... maybe it would be closer to say that it's the
"Aspect" of BetNoir the Pyrate Queen, in the Riverworld sense.

Lee S. Billings

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In article <dpeters-ya0234800...@news.mwis.net>,
dpe...@mwis.net says...

>(Who likes NeNe's stuff, but has paid money for Ruth Thompson & Larry
>Elmore...)

Grumph. If I bought every piece of art I *liked* (even just as a
print), I wouldn't have any money for anything else, or any wall space
left at all. There are 6 boxes of art from the move that we haven't
even been able to *open* yet, all stuffed to the gills with framed and
unframed artwork (although I packed my 3 most favorite pieces
separately and we *have* managed to get those hung). I expect to rotate
pieces on a semi-regular basis once we go start getting into those
boxes; my place in Nashville always looked like an art gallery.

Antonia T. Tiger

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In article <kc948IAA...@fell.demon.co.uk>

dur...@fell.demon.co.uk "Venus FT Durona" writes:

| >She pauses, and cocks her head to one side for a moment as she thinks.
| >"Black lace stockings, over fur?" She shrugs. "It wouldn't work for
| >me, would it..."
|
| Black furry lace stockings... now _there's_ a thought. Warmer than
| fishnets, probably better looking than tights.

I don't know about your fur, but mine sticks through the holes in ugly
tufts, and it's no fun taking the stockings off again. I'm very
attached to my fur...

[pauses and checked the edress] Don't I know you from somewhere?


--
Antonia T. Tiger


Janice Munday

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The lovely Ms. A.T. Tiger said:

>I don't know about your fur, but mine sticks through
>the holes in ugly tufts, and it's no fun taking the
>stockings off again. I'm very attached to my fur...

Not to mention how uncomfortable it is when your fur is rubbed the
wrong way while you're getting the stockings *on*, then kept that way by
the mesh!
Cowlicks are bad enough when they're on your *head*, IMO -- on your
legs they're Just A Bit Much! Getting all your fur to lie the right way
*after* you've got the stockings on is almost impossible. Your claws
tend to tear them, no matter how careful you're being. Or else you
manage to miss that one tuft... <shudder>

JEM
(don'tcha just *hate* that "all rucked up" feeling?)

I don't suffer from insanity......I'm enjoying every minute of it!


Snarky

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The Chocolate Snark, black-clad, bearded, gayly adorned on hat and jacket,
abstract concept made incarnate, moped up to the bar,
asked Mike for a
rum 'n' coke and put his loonie in the box.
Turning to Janice,
Toni, Lee and Betnoir, he said disconsolately,
"It's been years since I could afford to celebrate Samhain, or even just
Halloween,
properly. None of my parents' clothes fit, and living out here
in suburban Limbo, I
don't quite have the nerve or the scratch to buy the kind of black dress
(maybe leather, maybe taffeta...) I'd love to wear. I can't afford to move
out,
and the kinds of jobs currently available to someone who's only graduated
high school
(however high the I.Q. score), especially to a thirty year old, are not the
kind
that lend themselves to buying dresses for Halloween...I've recently taken a
workshop
on operating a control board at a community radio station -- little over a
month
ago -- but I haven't nearly enough hours logged yet to have a chance at
getting a job in commercial radio...'Nother one, Mike? I'm not really saying
this in hope of finding a genuinely useful suggestion -- most free advice is
worth what you pay for it. I just had to get that off my chest. Thanks for
listening, anyway."

<Sna...@yahoo.ca>
(queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)


betnoir

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Snarky wrote:

> I'm not really saying
> this in hope of finding a genuinely useful suggestion -- most free advice is
> worth what you pay for it. I just had to get that off my chest. Thanks for
> listening, anyway."

Yer in Vancouver, no?

I do seem to recall some way cool vintage shops in Vancouver when I was up that
a'ways a number of years ago. Some places do nothing but old prom dresses --
used to be one around here called Petticoat Junction. I ADORED that
place....the real Honest-ta-Christ 50's prommy dresses with nine yards of
crinoline underneath so they could stand up all on their own. Yummy!

I am going to go out on a limb here (please don't saw that off, Eddie) and
presume that you might possibly be a x-dresser....beard....dresses for
Halloween.....etc....

There is a site that caters to x-dressers: http://www.cubanheels.com (please to
double-check URL, as Pyrate Queen is known to have memory of swiss cheese)

Not sure what their prices are -- I generally suggest it as a resource to my
male rapier pals who oogle my over-the-knee fencing boots (I still giggle
thinking of the expression on De Doc's face when he pouted that 'How come you
girls get all the cool boots?')

Other'n dat...how good can you sew?

> <Sna...@yahoo.ca>
> (queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)

Really? Cuz I've had some pretty queer fucks in my day (oh, me misspent
youth.... :> )

BetN...but never in a 50's prommy dress....

Snarky

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betnoir wrote
>Snarky wrote:

>> I'm not really saying
>> this in hope of finding a genuinely useful suggestion -- most free advice
is
>> worth what you pay for it. I just had to get that off my chest. Thanks
for
>> listening, anyway."

>Yer in Vancouver, no?

>I do seem to recall some way cool vintage shops in Vancouver when I was up
that
>a'ways a number of years ago. Some places do nothing but old prom
dresses --
>used to be one around here called Petticoat Junction. I ADORED that
>place....the real Honest-ta-Christ 50's prommy dresses with nine yards of
>crinoline underneath so they could stand up all on their own. Yummy!


NAS, but I _think_ it might've gone under some time ago...

>I am going to go out on a limb here (please don't saw that off, Eddie) and
>presume that you might possibly be a x-dresser....beard....dresses for
>Halloween.....etc....


Weeellll...possibly in terms of what I'd like to try sometime -- my mother's
been much shorter than me for fifteen years or so, and didn't come out to
myself until I was twenty, and by then my father's homo- and transphobia was
pretty clear,
and you know the rest...

>there is a site that caters to x-dressers: http://www.cubanheels.com


(please to
>double-check URL, as Pyrate Queen is known to have memory of swiss cheese)

>Not sure what their prices are -- I generally suggest it as a resource to
my
>male rapier pals who oogle my over-the-knee fencing boots (I still giggle
>thinking of the expression on De Doc's face when he pouted that 'How come
you
>girls get all the cool boots?')


Thanks, but this welfare queer doesn't have credit...

>Other'n dat...how good can you sew?


Poorly...


>><Sna...@yahoo.ca>
>> (queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)

>Really? Cuz I've had some pretty queer fucks in my day (oh, me misspent
>youth.... :> )


ROTFELMAOASTCS...Wooo-hoo, I was waiting for a decent response to that
one -- prior to this, only Azaxyr in radw has come up with anything, and his
is only
the usual homophobic bs, spiced with libelous accusations of pedophilia -- a
real jerk.
I prodded him to see if he could react like a mature adult, and he confirmed
all their most dire warnings -- the radwers', that is -- a real schoolyard
bully.
He thinks of himself as being radw's bad boy, when he's simply in need of a
good spank...
Snarky

betnoir

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Snarky wrote:

> Thanks, but this welfare queer doesn't have credit...

You can always take the 'Balls to the Wall' route my friend Raven did when he
was doing his FrankNFurter outfit. He and I marched right into Vickie's Secret,
whereupon he picked out a merry widow and in front of Ghod, the customers and
the nice salesgirl sailed into the dressing room.

He re-emerged five minutes later, stood in front of the dressing room mirror
'adjusting' the cups, turned to me and said 'Look! They pooch out. They don't
lay flat! This will just NOT do.' Sailed back into the dressingroom, removed
the offending garment, and off we went back to his place to make a PROPER
FrankNFurter merry widow with cups that laid flat.

To be fair to Raven, I know he wasn't doing it as a piece of Queer Political
Theatre. He had his 'Master Costumer' head on and was focused on that. But it
sure was funny, nonetheless.

I should mention that not only is Raven responsible (50%) for my Dear Hoosband
and I meeting, he is also gay, and a Master Level costumer. One of my Nearest
and Dearest on the face of the planet and the only man I will ever let
pattern-fit a bodice for me. His next project is my new rapier armor.

> >> (queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)
>
> >Really? Cuz I've had some pretty queer fucks in my day (oh, me misspent
> >youth.... :> )
>
> ROTFELMAOASTCS...Wooo-hoo, I was waiting for a decent response to that
> one

Glad to oblige.

BetN...yes, it's true...hand her something Straight and...well...yanno...

Snarky

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betnoir wrote in answer to a post by Snarky...

>You can always take the 'Balls to the Wall' route my friend Raven did when
he
>was doing his FrankNFurter outfit. He and I marched right into Vickie's
Secret,
>whereupon he picked out a merry widow and in front of Ghod, the customers
and
>the nice salesgirl sailed into the dressing room.


From the sound of it, a whole new anagram to describe an extreme fit of
laughter and giggling...Ohhhh, ten hoots and a half....

>He re-emerged five minutes later, stood in front of the dressing room
mirror
>'adjusting' the cups, turned to me and said 'Look! They pooch out. They
don't
>lay flat! This will just NOT do.' Sailed back into the dressingroom,
removed
>the offending garment, and off we went back to his place to make a PROPER
>FrankNFurter merry widow with cups that laid flat.

Love it, love it, love it...Wish I could sew worth a damn but I only have my
mother's
hands, not her handiness with a needle and thread, and no way could she
sew an entire dress, not now and not, I think, for the last fifteen, twenty
years,
not with her gouty arthritis. Both of my grandfathers had it, so it's quite
likely something
I can expect for myself within a couple decades down the road...

>To be fair to Raven, I know he wasn't doing it as a piece of Queer
Political
>Theatre. He had his 'Master Costumer' head on and was focused on that.
But it
>sure was funny, nonetheless.

Oh, I'm no costumer, just a customer...

>I should mention that not only is Raven responsible (50%) for my Dear
Hoosband
>and I meeting, he is also gay, and a Master Level costumer. One of my
Nearest
>and Dearest on the face of the planet and the only man I will ever let
>pattern-fit a bodice for me. His next project is my new rapier armor.


Cool...I take it you're in the Society for Creative Anachronism?
I'm sort of a freelance member of the Society for Creative Anarchism, myself


>> >> (queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)

>> >Really? Cuz I've had some pretty queer fucks in my day (oh, me misspent
>> >youth.... :> )

>> ROTFELMAOASTCS...Wooo-hoo, I was waiting for a decent response to that
>> one

>Glad to oblige.

>BetN...yes, it's true...hand her something Straight and...well...yanno...


In that case, whatever could you possibly do with me?...
Just wondering --
betnoir....hmmm, you aren't by any chance of an African persuasion, are you?
Every female of that particular derivation I've ever met has been in my top
one
hundred list of the nicest people on the pl -- oops, does it just refer to
your hair?...Yipes......

betnoir

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Snarky wrote:

> Cool...I take it you're in the Society for Creative Anachronism?
> I'm sort of a freelance member of the Society for Creative Anarchism, myself

Yep, I'm in the SCA. Also a Rennie. Guess that makes me 'bi.'

> In that case, whatever could you possibly do with me?...
> Just wondering --

That would constitute sharing proprietary information. I have some ethics,
yanno...

> betnoir....hmmm, you aren't by any chance of an African persuasion, are you?
> Every female of that particular derivation I've ever met has been in my top
> one
> hundred list of the nicest people on the pl -- oops, does it just refer to
> your hair?...Yipes......

No...and no....

RussianJewish/English

Brunette with auburn highlights, which show up more depending on how recently I
went to my hairdresser's....

Snarky

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BTW, do we ever sleep? Just wondering....
Snarky

Snarky

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betnoir wrote
>Snarky wrote:

>> Cool...I take it you're in the Society for Creative Anachronism?
>> I'm sort of a freelance member of the Society for Creative Anarchism,
myself

>Yep, I'm in the SCA. Also a Rennie. Guess that makes me 'bi.'

'Rennie'?

>> In that case, whatever could you possibly do with me?...
>> Just wondering --

>That would constitute sharing proprietary information. I have some ethics,
>yanno...

>No...and no....

>RussianJewish/English

Oh, really? I'm five parts English, two parts Scots-Irish (and yep, I had a
couple ancestors
who fought for Charlie...and probably a few who fought against him, I
shouldn't
wonder...where did that expression come from, anyway? I picked it up a long
time ago, now, and I've used it off and on over the past few
years...whatever) and
one part uncertain Eastern European, to wit, Czechoslovakian
(where dat), or Yugoslavian(ditto), neither, of course, in existence when my
mother's paternal grandfather was born, and therefore on the order of
useless
information, beyond the fairly basic clue of which part of Europe to check,
i.e., the most
chaotic portion -- and Yugoslavia is the more likely candidate, as my
granddad's surname is derived from Osmanli, which refers to the Ottoman
Turk,
and they were in what is now Yugoslavia in some force. And since the Ottoman
Empire
stretched, at one point, right into Northern Africa -- not for very long,
admittedly,
but for long enough to get some pretty wild 'miscegenation' going, so my
adoptive
cousin (and acclaimed poet) Wayde Compton and his adoptive brother may not
be the only mixed-race people in the family, after all....

>Brunette with auburn highlights, which show up more depending on how
recently I
>went to my hairdresser's....

Brown with blond highlights, from my experience of streaking it back in
the mid-eighties, and very, very, very long -- truly, I'm already a hippie
(OK, a rather darkly clad hippie, but all the same....), I don't need to
dress up! -- and
for the second time this decade, too. I shaved it all off myself about three
and
a half years ago, just to see what I'd look like bald -- WITS, in twenty or
thirty
years or so [I hope, he said mournfully:-(]...
<Sna...@yahoo.ca>

Cymru Llewes

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On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:18:24 GMT, "Snarky" <feeto...@home.com>
wrote:

>
>betnoir wrote
>>Snarky wrote:
>
>>> Cool...I take it you're in the Society for Creative Anachronism?
>>> I'm sort of a freelance member of the Society for Creative Anarchism,
>myself
>
>>Yep, I'm in the SCA. Also a Rennie. Guess that makes me 'bi.'
>
>'Rennie'?

Cymru thinks this means a person who is involved with the Rennaissance
Fairs.


>>> In that case, whatever could you possibly do with me?...
>>> Just wondering --
>
>>That would constitute sharing proprietary information. I have some ethics,
>>yanno...
>
>>No...and no....
>
>>RussianJewish/English
>
>Oh, really? I'm five parts English, two parts Scots-Irish (and yep, I had a
>couple ancestors
>who fought for Charlie...and probably a few who fought against him, I
>shouldn't
>wonder...where did that expression come from, anyway? I picked it up a long
>time ago, now, and I've used it off and on over the past few
>years...whatever)

<snip lots and lots>

<information hoard being opened and shared from>

Scots-Irish generally refers to the people and descendants of said
people who emmigrated from Scotland to Ireland because of religious
persuctuion and then came over to America. There is a rather large
settlement of such folks in the mountains of North Carolina. Note
that these are people that mostly came over before the Potato Famine.

<information hoard being closed>

> I shaved it all off myself about three
>and
>a half years ago, just to see what I'd look like bald -- WITS, in twenty or
>thirty
>years or so [I hope, he said mournfully:-(]...
><Sna...@yahoo.ca>

Cymru would like to point out that mayhap starting to shampoo with
Rogaine now might help.


Cymru @ Caer Llewys with Alaric, Goose and Houdini and Shadow
(yes, yes spamfree is the spamblock unless Alaric has been
playing around again with our servers.)

Venus FT Durona

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In article <BP0UOJyk9fIyld...@4ax.com>, John Vinson
<jvi...@cyberSPAMLESShighway.net> writes

>"Too late... you've delurked now!" exclaims John the Wysard, grinning
>and welcoming his old friend back to the Place.
>
><Hug>
>
>"BOYC?"

"Hot chocolate, please. With whipped cream." <slurp> "Would've replied
earlier, but I've been busy ringing round people trying to persuade them
to bucket for Samhain... I have three definites (me, Dad, and a friend
from school) and two maybes, and I managed to annoy Rob immensely by
actually needing to use the phone for once, so he couldn't spend all
night talking to his friends. Oh well."

--
Venus F. T. Durona.

Yeah, you wanna go out 'cos it's raining and blowing,
You can't go out 'cos your roots are showing,
Dye 'em black, black no. 1

Type O Negative, Black No. 1

Venus FT Durona

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In article <940957...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk>, Antonia T. Tiger
<ant...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <kc948IAA...@fell.demon.co.uk>
> dur...@fell.demon.co.uk "Venus FT Durona" writes:

>| Black furry lace stockings... now _there's_ a thought. Warmer than
>| fishnets, probably better looking than tights.
>

>I don't know about your fur, but mine sticks through the holes in ugly
>tufts, and it's no fun taking the stockings off again. I'm very
>attached to my fur...

Maybe fluffy wool in a loose crochet sort of thing? I dunno. I'm just
being silly again.

>[pauses and checked the edress] Don't I know you from somewhere?

I post to Callahans on a yo-yo basis, could that be it?

--
Venus F. T. Durona.

You think that you can beat them, I know that you won't,
You think you have everything, but no, you don't.

No, You Don't, Nine Inch Nails.

betnoir

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Snarky wrote:

> >Yep, I'm in the SCA. Also a Rennie. Guess that makes me 'bi.'
>
> 'Rennie'?

Rennaisance Faire person -- aka RenRat or RenGeek. Not much crossover between
SCA and Rennies, therefore, I MUST be 'bi.'

> Brown with blond highlights, from my experience of streaking it back in

> the mid-eighties, and very, very, very long....

Ohhh...

Snarky, can I braid your hair? I always get people fussing over mine (which I
like), but I never get the chance to return the favor.

BetN, who promises no lil' pink bows on the end, unless you REALLY want 'em

Mike Gallagher

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Snarky <feeto...@home.com> wrote

>
>I'm five parts English, two parts Scots-Irish (and yep, I had a
>couple ancestors who fought for Charlie ... and probably a few who

>fought against him, I shouldn't wonder...

Absolutely certainly, even if they were brothers.

>where did that expression come from, anyway?

Bonnie Prince Charlie was the Young Pretender to the throne of Scotland
during the second Jacobite rebellion (1745; against the English, of
course). If you 'fought for Charlie' you fought for the rebels.

Of course the rest of Scotland fought against. 'The Scots' greatest
enemy has always been the Scots.' - Pterry

--
Mike Gallagher | "If you don't think about words
Goodknight | you won't write any words
| worth thinking about."
| - Dave Langford

Snarky

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Mike Gallagher wrote
>Snarky wrote

>>
>>I'm five parts English, two parts Scots-Irish (and yep, I had a
>>couple ancestors who fought for Charlie ... and probably a few who
>>fought against him, I shouldn't wonder...
>
>Absolutely certainly, even if they were brothers.
>
>>where did that expression come from, anyway?
>
>Bonnie Prince Charlie was the Young Pretender to the throne of Scotland
>during the second Jacobite rebellion (1745; against the English, of
>course). If you 'fought for Charlie' you fought for the rebels.
>
>Of course the rest of Scotland fought against. 'The Scots' greatest
>enemy has always been the Scots.' - Pterry


No...I didn't mean that...Silly question about 'shouldn't wonder'...Doesn't
matter...Thanx anyway but I've read Gabaldon -- and lots of related stuff
before her, too.
From everything I've read about Scotland, you're too right, tho'......

<Sna...@yahoo.ca>


(queer as fuck and twice as strange;^>)

(where will this thread wander off to next, I wonder...)

Snarky

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betnoir wrote:
>Snarky wrote:
>
>> >Yep, I'm in the SCA. Also a Rennie. Guess that makes me 'bi.'
>>
>> 'Rennie'?
>
>Rennaisance Faire person -- aka RenRat or RenGeek. Not much crossover
between
>SCA and Rennies, therefore, I MUST be 'bi.'

Right. Thanx. Blond moment -- should've figured that one out m'self...Only
one 'n' in the first syllable, BTW:-)

>> Brown with blond highlights, from my experience of streaking it back in
>> the mid-eighties, and very, very, very long....

>Ohhh...

>Snarky, can I braid your hair? I always get people fussing over mine
(which I
>like), but I never get the chance to return the favor.

>BetN, who promises no lil' pink bows on the end, unless you REALLY want 'em


Errr...You live in Connecticut, right? (Or is that Janice?...My memory's
slipping again) If
not, then anywhere near BC? In any case, p'r'aps I should've said "very,
very long", rather than three "very"s --I'm not sure you could achieve
satisfactory results
at its current length. Thanx for asking, tho.... .

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