Mohr and Bible
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> On 05/21/1999 6:14PM, in message <3745E8E8...@magnet.at>, Thomas
Mohr
> <thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
>
> bob gorcas wrote:
>
>
> >>Adam was a white man, the Bible says, because Adam means "he who
> >>blushes", and only white Europeans blush.
>
> >Where is THAT from ? Adam simply means "man"
>
>
> According to this link:
>
> http://www.melvig.org/faq/eleven.html
>
> The book we call the Bible is a family His(S)tory of God's
> people -- the generations of Adam and more specifically of
> his descendants through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel.
> All Scriptural evidence indicates Adam was created a white
> man. The name "ADAM" (aw-dawm') in Hebrew means a "ruddy
> human being" (Strong's O.T. #120). It is derived from Strong's
> O.T. #119 - ADAM (aw-dam'), which means "to show blood (in the
> face), i.e. flush or turn rosy." The attributes of skin color
> are described by one geneticist as follows:
I suppose Strong's OT #120 was effective when Adam was created right?? Spin
it all you want, it doesn't prove Adam was white.
>
> "The color of normal human skin is due to the presence of
> three kinds of colored chemicals, or pigments. The most
> important of these pigments is melanin, a dark-brown
> substance... The second of the three pigments is carotene.
> This is a yellow substance which is present in carrots (from
> which it gets its name) and egg yokes as well as human skin...
> The third pigment is hemoglobin, which is the red coloring
> matter of blood...the hemoglobin occurs in the blood vessels
> beneath the skin, so that very little can show through..
> The presence of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene
> in the skin covers it up completely. Hemoglobin does show
> up however in the skin of white men, particularly in those
> of light complexion. It is the hemoglobin that accounts for
> pink cheeks and the ability to blush."
>
> -William C. Boyd, Ph.D. 'Races and People' (1955) pp.43-
> 45
>
> Adam was fair and white
Says who?? Who was around to check his DNA at the time of the Creation??
which caused the hemoglobin (blood) to
> show in his skin making him look "ruddy" or to give him a "flush"
> look. Thus the word "ADAM" is a descriptive name but here
> indicates certain physical characteristics that the man Adam
> possessed.
Bullshit. There was nobody around to assess his physical characteristics
It is a common practice in both Hebrew and English
> languages to name something according to some *outstanding
> feature* or characteristic. We thus call a bird a "red-headed
> woodpecker" because it has a red head and pecks wood.
>
> Adam was evidently called or named "ADAM" because he possessed
> 'aw-dam' characteristics - that being of a ruddy or rosy
> complexion coming from the blood (hemoglobin) showing through
> his non-pigmented skin. This is what ADAM meant. People of a
> very fair complexion often appear as though they are reddish or
> sunburnt since the hemoglobin readily shows through their skin.
> This was the case with Adam and Eve.
Again total bullshit. Who was it who assessed Adams color and named him???
Grimms Fairy Tales are more believable that this crock of shit
>
> [...]
>
> That Adam and Eve were of the white race with this fair, ruddy
> or rosy complexion is verified in the Bible by the descriptions
> of their descendants. King David, who was one of Adam's direct
> descendants, was described as being "ruddy, and of fair
> countenance." (I Samuel 16:12 and 17:42) David's daughter Tamar
> was "fair" (2 Samuel 13:1). Sarah and Rebekah, who were both
> descendant from Adam, were both described as being "very fair"
> (Genesis 12:11,14; Gen. 24:16; Gen. 26:7). The daughters of Job,
> one of the Adamic patriarchs, were known as the fairest women "in
> all the land" (Job 42:15). Solomon was described as being "white
> and ruddy" (Song of Solomon 5:10). The Nazarites (consecrated
> persons) of Judah were "whiter than milk" and "more ruddy in
> body than rubies" (Lamentations 4:7).
None of the abovementioned folks was around at the time of creation, and the
timespan between the lifetime of Adam and the lifetime of David cannot be
ascertained, as they hadn't invented any means of keeping track of time back
then
Another weak attempt by racist losers to prove they are better than others,
or have some devine right to be considered superior
> -----------
>
> I do not know enough of this subject to give an informed
> opinion. Moreover, I do find such an alternative view to
> be open to argumentative speculation.
Of course. How else do you arrive at the truth??
>
> There are other self-styled researchers (most of whom are not worth
quoting) who have a similar yet differening counterpoint. If willing, visit
this interesting website:
Not worth quoting?? Are you deciding for everyone else what is valid and
what is not???
>
> http://www.seek-info.com/adam.htm
>
> ---------
>
> George Adams
>
>
>
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Anonymous
bob gorcas wrote:
>>Adam was a white man, the Bible says, because Adam means "he who
>>blushes", and only white Europeans blush.
>Where is THAT from ? Adam simply means "man"
According to this link:
http://www.melvig.org/faq/eleven.html
The book we call the Bible is a family His(S)tory of God's
people -- the generations of Adam and more specifically of
his descendants through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel.
All Scriptural evidence indicates Adam was created a white
man. The name "ADAM" (aw-dawm') in Hebrew means a "ruddy
human being" (Strong's O.T. #120). It is derived from Strong's
O.T. #119 - ADAM (aw-dam'), which means "to show blood (in the
face), i.e. flush or turn rosy." The attributes of skin color
are described by one geneticist as follows:
"The color of normal human skin is due to the presence of
three kinds of colored chemicals, or pigments. The most
important of these pigments is melanin, a dark-brown
substance... The second of the three pigments is carotene.
This is a yellow substance which is present in carrots (from
which it gets its name) and egg yokes as well as human skin...
The third pigment is hemoglobin, which is the red coloring
matter of blood...the hemoglobin occurs in the blood vessels
beneath the skin, so that very little can show through..
The presence of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene
in the skin covers it up completely. Hemoglobin does show
up however in the skin of white men, particularly in those
of light complexion. It is the hemoglobin that accounts for
pink cheeks and the ability to blush."
-William C. Boyd, Ph.D. 'Races and People' (1955) pp.43-
45
Adam was fair and white which caused the hemoglobin (blood) to
show in his skin making him look "ruddy" or to give him a "flush"
look. Thus the word "ADAM" is a descriptive name but here
indicates certain physical characteristics that the man Adam
possessed. It is a common practice in both Hebrew and English
languages to name something according to some *outstanding
feature* or characteristic. We thus call a bird a "red-headed
woodpecker" because it has a red head and pecks wood.
Adam was evidently called or named "ADAM" because he possessed
'aw-dam' characteristics - that being of a ruddy or rosy
complexion coming from the blood (hemoglobin) showing through
his non-pigmented skin. This is what ADAM meant. People of a
very fair complexion often appear as though they are reddish or
sunburnt since the hemoglobin readily shows through their skin.
This was the case with Adam and Eve.
[...]
That Adam and Eve were of the white race with this fair, ruddy
or rosy complexion is verified in the Bible by the descriptions
of their descendants. King David, who was one of Adam's direct
descendants, was described as being "ruddy, and of fair
countenance." (I Samuel 16:12 and 17:42) David's daughter Tamar
was "fair" (2 Samuel 13:1). Sarah and Rebekah, who were both
descendant from Adam, were both described as being "very fair"
(Genesis 12:11,14; Gen. 24:16; Gen. 26:7). The daughters of Job,
one of the Adamic patriarchs, were known as the fairest women "in
all the land" (Job 42:15). Solomon was described as being "white
and ruddy" (Song of Solomon 5:10). The Nazarites (consecrated
persons) of Judah were "whiter than milk" and "more ruddy in
body than rubies" (Lamentations 4:7).
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I do not know enough of this subject to give an informed
opinion. Moreover, I do find such an alternative view to
be open to argumentative speculation.
There are other self-styled researchers (most of whom are not worth quoting) who have a similar yet differening counterpoint. If willing, visit this interesting website:
http://www.seek-info.com/adam.htm
Thomas Mohr
> The attributes of skin color
> are described by one geneticist as follows:
>
> "The color of normal human skin is due to the presence of
> three kinds of colored chemicals, or pigments. The most
> important of these pigments is melanin, a dark-brown
> substance... The second of the three pigments is carotene.
> This is a yellow substance which is present in carrots (from
> which it gets its name) and egg yokes as well as human skin...
> The third pigment is hemoglobin, which is the red coloring
> matter of blood...the hemoglobin occurs in the blood vessels
> beneath the skin, so that very little can show through..
> The presence of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene
> in the skin covers it up completely. Hemoglobin does show
> up however in the skin of white men, particularly in those
> of light complexion. It is the hemoglobin that accounts for
> pink cheeks and the ability to blush."
>
> -William C. Boyd, Ph.D. 'Races and People' (1955) pp.43-
> 45
According to my Biochemistry books, which are a little more up-to-date
than this one, carotenes are *not* a major pigment in the skin, except
you eat huge amounts of carotene containing food. Also, hemoglobin is
also *not* a pigment of the skin. It is *exclusively* in red blood
cells. It also does not show up in the skin of white man. The reason why
white man blush so obviously is that the blood vessels of the face open
up, increase the blood flow and therefore the person blushes. The same
mechanism is present in blacks so that blacks actually *can* and *do*
blush. It is not as obvious, but it is present.
< rest snipped >
In summa this whole article seems to be a bit sloppily researched, right
?
Aside that, what is your point ? To prove that blacks are descendants of
Satan ?
Anonymous
On 05/21/1999 8:30PM, in message <374608CE...@magnet.at>, Thomas Mohr
<thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
>According to my Biochemistry books, which are a little more up-to-date than this one, carotenes are *not* a major pigment in the skin, except you eat huge amounts of carotene containing food. Also, hemoglobin is also *not* a pigment of the skin. It is
>*exclusively* in red blood cells. It also does not show up in the
>skin of white man. The reason why white man blush so obviously is
>that the blood vessels of the face open up, increase the blood flow and therefore the person blushes. The same mechanism is present in blacks so that blacks actually *can* and *do* blush.
>It is not as obvious, but it is present.
Thank you for your honest response. Certainly, a bio-chemistry
work must have an element of recency.
One paragraph that I did not include in the original post:
"It is argued that other racial types get rosy cheeked as well
and "blush". Two facts that they can't argue with is that other
races just don't show "blood in the face" as pronounced as the
white race can and secondly one never asks if these other races
"who blush" have any white mixed into their past generations.
Regardless, the ability to "blush, turn rosy" is an outstanding
feature of the fair skinned white race. The word "ADAM" was a
descriptive term to describe this outstanding feature of Adam &
Eve over the other races."
< rest snipped >
>In summa this whole article seems to be a bit sloppily researched, right?
If I had to redo my dissertation on such a subject, believe
me when I say that I would do more to discredit this epistemological,
psuedo-historical approach than foolishly try to prove its
validity.
>Aside that, what is your point ?
Part of my occupation requires a great degree of research. If
one asks for it, I provide it.
>To prove that blacks are descendants of Satan ?
No, I would not consider my people to be the children of
Satan. If anything, the villified quote in John 8:44 might
be a more accurate statment regarding another heretofore
undefined ethnic taxon different from mine.
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Thomas Mohr
< snipped >
> No, I would not consider my people to be the children of
> Satan. If anything, the villified quote in John 8:44 might
> be a more accurate statment regarding another heretofore
> undefined ethnic taxon different from mine.
> ----------
>
> George Adams
>
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I have read the websites you mentioned concerning that whites are the
descendants of Adam and non-whites are not. There is one severe flaw in
your argumentation.
Just read the story about the big flood and the flaw becomes obvious. It
is explicitly written that *all* living beings on earth are destroyed,
except those who have been saved by Noah. So, if you strictly stick to
the Bible *all* humans must be descendants of Noah and his family,
therefore also of Adam and Eve, quod erat demonstrandum.