Oakland hate march
Collin Peter Michaels
ending the Oakland hate riot, and recommend that next time they use lead
bullets. Maybe with a few corpses in the street the protesters will think
twice before acting so irresponsibly.
Polybius
Michael Clark
> From: Collin Peter Michaels <ch...@bnl24.ten.nl>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats,alt.california,ba.politics
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:06:46 +0200
> Subject: Oakland hate march
Adding to the reputation for tolerance on the right, CPM earns a Benito,
given to the poster of the day who most embodies the spirit of that great
right-winger, Benito Mussolini...
Congratulations!
Bob
yourself.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you like totalitarian rule. as long as it fosters your myopic, stupid
ideology?
I'm disgusted that you even consider yourself a patriot and an American.
Folks, Michaels' view is shared by many of his ilk. A 16 year boy was spit
on, shoved, had beer tossed on him, and was told to "go back to I-rak" at a
Huston rodeo. Why? Because he refused to stand up for Lee Greenwood's "God
Bless the USA".
We don't need boogey men like Saddam, when we have one Collin Peter Michaels
wanting to mow down anti-war protestors.
Way to go, Michaels', nice way to defend freedom...kill those that you
disagree with.
In this meantime real Americans, like me weep at the feet of Lady Liberty.
"Collin Peter Michaels" <ch...@bnl24.ten.nl> wrote in message
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Mark Metzler
Maybe you would be happier living in Iraq where they don't have a
long-standing tradition of Free Speech and Freedom of Assembly.
America, Love it or Leave it!
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CuCycln
outstanding job. I would back them up again if it happened.
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Polybius
Bill Jarrell
Chinese generals would have appreciated you in Tinamen Square.
Polybius
bystanders.
Don't you just love those innocent saintly jews....:o))) LOL
Polybius
Jew democrats, jew republicans, they are still jews and they gotta go.
Stomping, Crane wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:51:58 -0700, in alt.california "Mark Metzler"
> <mmet...@sasquatch.com> wrote:
>
> >You think alot like Saddam.
> >Maybe you would be happier living in Iraq where they don't have a
> >long-standing tradition of Free Speech and Freedom of Assembly.
> >America, Love it or Leave it!
>
> You have no idea what you're talking about...The SCOTUS just yesterday
> ruled that Free Speech is not all incompassing. America, Learn
> something about it lest you look like a fool!
John Richards
> I'm not even close to being a Jew and I think the OPD did a great
> outstanding job. I would back them up again if it happened.
Likewise. Hats off to the OPD for having some balls. Perhaps we
should send SF cops across the bay to learn a few lessons. SF cops
can't even keep major intersections clear of protestors.
--
John Richards
Stan de SD
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Spoken like a real hater. Guess Collin's assessment was right.
Stan de SD
"Michael Clark" <mic...@chartertn.net> wrote in message
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Hey, the shits wanted violent confrontation, they got it. What's the whining
about?
Tudwel
owner. so get your facts right!! If they were aiding the enemy, which they
were as they were not trying to help the troops, then they should have used
real bullets, then we could have added them to the total dead for the
enemy!!
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Miguel O'Pastel
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people to give your heed a little buzz and your life some tawdry "meaning".
You don't have real opinions, your replies are automatic, just the most
hateful, uncaring thing you can say, no content.
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Miguel O'Pastel
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Watch how the South Koreans protest. Cops don't dare shoot at them.
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Mark Metzler
your country.
You have no belief in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the
vaues that have made this a great coutry.
You would destroy America's 200+ year tradfition of Democracy.
No doubt you would have fired bullets at Benjamin Franklin and the other
Founding Fathers when they threw tea into the harbour during the Boston Tea
Party.
You have no respect for the American flag that American soldiers have died
for, and the freedoms they died to protect.
America, Love it or Leave it!!!
Miguel O'Pastel
"Tudwel" <Tudwe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Rule of thumb is 10% of those who protest are willing to fight.
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mercenaries to do their killing for them. Cops are paid better than
soldiers, someone is getting screwed. Maybe a Mercenary Union is in the
works.
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Tudwel
of war
"Michael Clark" <mic...@chartertn.net> wrote in message
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>
>
Tudwel
protesters get violent then use violence to put them down!!!
There is a proper way to protest or gather for a cause. Why is it that the
gatherings for supporting the troops are all peaceful and no one getting
arrested ? Can you answer this one question with a truthful answer.
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
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Tudwel
and being violent? There is a proper way to be participate in a protest and
a way to get your ass kicked and beaten or shot. Guess the what those idiots
got what they wanted.
Please answer this: Why are all the pro-war or pro-troops rallies peaceful
and no one is shot or arrested (hint: just look at the way they behave)
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
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Tudwel
> your country.
> You have no belief in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the
> vaues that have made this a great coutry.
How many liberals fought in the wars to ensure the freedoms we all enjoy, I
could not tell you. I bet though, there are lots more people on the right
who fought for those freedoms.
> You would destroy America's 200+ year tradfition of Democracy.
You are the ones who hate the United States government not us on the right.
> No doubt you would have fired bullets at Benjamin Franklin and the other
> Founding Fathers when they threw tea into the harbour during the Boston
Tea
> Party.
They started a revolution and started our great country, then one that we
live in now and is governed by our government that You hate not us on the
right. A revolution starts a whole new government if that is what you want
then you are a traitor to the US
> You have no respect for the American flag that American soldiers have died
> for, and the freedoms they died to protect.
Please tell me when was the last time you saw a right wing person burn a
flag, destroy the flag, tear the flag, please tell me.
The left are the ones who do this. The left is a cancer that needs to be
eradicated
Stan de SD
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
Go re-read some of your own twisted posts before you lecture ME about being
"hateful", you piece of communist scum.
Stan de SD
> You think alot like Saddam.
> Maybe you would be happier living in Iraq where they don't have a
> long-standing tradition of Free Speech and Freedom of Assembly.
> America, Love it or Leave it!
They could protest to their hearts content out in public, provided they
didn't tresspass on private property and try to physically block access to
the port. Once they did that, they stepped over the line. A lot of these
individuals wanted a violent confrontation anyway, so they got what they
deserved. What are you complaining about?
Stan de SD
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
Take your "revolution" and shove it up your ass, commie scumbag.
Michael Clark
> From: "Tudwel" <Tudwe...@aol.com>
> Organization: Cox Communications
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats,alt.california,ba.politics
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 00:27:59 GMT
> Subject: Re: CPM earns the first Benito Award
>
> Its better then getting the Jane Fonda award for aiding the enemy at a time
> of war
Goes to show how much you value free speech, I reckon - Fonda's *crime* was
spoken, Mussolini just ordered the deaths of a lot of innocent people. I
don't think one could begin to trace an exact death that came from Fonda's
words; Mussolini, it would be no problem.
And its no surprise, considering the award-winning post, that you might feel
that way.
Tudwel
"Michael Clark" <mic...@chartertn.net> wrote in message
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Michael Clark
place a single death at her table?
ma...@merde.com
<mmet...@sasquatch.com> wrote:
>The trouble with you right-wing reactionaries is that you are traitors to
>your country.
>You have no belief in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the
>vaues that have made this a great coutry.
I will defend to death your rights to free speech, just when I am late
for work get out of the fucking street!!!!
Polybius
Mark Metzler
> flag, destroy the flag, tear the flag, please tell me.
John Ashcroft, for one.
Hugh Gibbons
>
>
>> From: Collin Peter Michaels <ch...@bnl24.ten.nl>
>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats,alt.california,ba.politics
>> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:06:46 +0200
>> Subject: Oakland hate march
>>
>> in ending the Oakland hate riot, and recommend that next time they
>> use lead bullets. Maybe with a few corpses in the street the
>> protesters will think twice before acting so irresponsibly.
>
> Benito, given to the poster of the day who most embodies the spirit of
> that great right-winger, Benito Mussolini...
>
> Congratulations!
>
Hugh Gibbons
> Its better then getting the Jane Fonda award for aiding the enemy at a
> time of war
>
be out of the loop.
Hugh Gibbons
> They would if they were breaking the law and using violence. If the
> protesters get violent then use violence to put them down!!!
>
> There is a proper way to protest or gather for a cause. Why is it that
> the gatherings for supporting the troops are all peaceful and no one
> getting arrested ? Can you answer this one question with a truthful
> answer.
People who gather to support the actions and policies of the government
NEVER get arrested.
Hugh Gibbons
> Hey Idiot, they were on private property and were asked to leave by
> the owner. so get your facts right!! If they were aiding the enemy,
> which they were as they were not trying to help the troops, then they
> should have used real bullets, then we could have added them to the
> total dead for the enemy!!
Sorry, we can't give you the Mussolini. Your post is a cheap knockoff
of CPM's. Please in the future try to think of your own expressions of
oppression and thugdom.
Tudwel
TRAITOR
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Miguel O'Pastel
to for support.
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represent solely the interest of the oligarchy. That's work for the bosses.
They could arrest some corporate criminals, for a change. There are plenty
of those. still free. They could get honest. They could also stop
oppressing people themselves.
M
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Bill Jarrell
> They would if they were breaking the law and using violence. If the
> protesters get violent then use violence to put them down!!!
>
initial post in this thread gleefully called for using real bullits
instead of tear gas or plastic bullits. It was less an advocation of
law enforcement as it was a fascist desire to see people exterminated
for their political views. Unless Collin Peter Micheals is willing to
advocate using lead bullits on rowdy sports fans and Operation
Rescue protestors who overstep the law, I think this is a fair
assessment of his position.
> There is a proper way to protest or gather for a cause. Why is it that the
> gatherings for supporting the troops are all peaceful and no one getting
> arrested ? Can you answer this one question with a truthful answer.
>
Because no one is breaking the law rallies, but most of the peace
protestors don't break the law either.
Bill Jarrell
Collin Peter Michaels
> Unless Collin Peter Micheals is willing to advocate using lead bullits
> on rowdy sports fans and Operation Rescue protestors who overstep the
> law, I think this is a fair assessment of his position.
Absolutely. Anybody who doesn't understand what three repetitions of
"please disperse" means, has no business polluting the gene pool.
Political affiliation has nothing to do with it. This is about order.
The Pervert
> > Please tell me when was the last time you saw a right wing person burn a
> > flag, destroy the flag, tear the flag, please tell me.
>
> John Ashcroft, for one.
I must have missed that event on the news. Surely if such a thing had
*really* happened, the media would properly have been all over it.
Maybe you just made that bullshit up and you're really just lying for
effect.
Ya think?
John Richards
Mark Metzler wrote:
> The trouble with you right-wing reactionaries is that you are
> traitors to your country.
> You have no belief in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any
> of the vaues that have made this a great coutry.
Get a grip! Neither the Bill of Rights nor the Constitution gives you
the right to block gates on personal property or to block street intersections.
--
John Richards
Polybius
have been disgarded by the jews like used rubbers. Really, jew republicans or jew
democrats it doesn't matter, they are still jews and will act in the interest of
the jews and the jewish state.
The jews have ruined the liberal left in the United States, now you see many more
jews playing conservatives on TV...soon you will have all jews, all the time...and
only jews and the jewish state will benefit...is it good for the jews?
John Richards
Regardlesss of their political beliefs, as soon as they did something illegal
they would be arrested. The simple reason they don't get arrested is that
(unlike the leftist protestors) they don't do anything illegal. But that's
too difficult for you to fathom, right?
--
John Richards
Rene
"John Richards" <J...@DontSpam.me> wrote in message
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The hate-filled "peace" protestors (law-breakers, actually) are moral scum.
They seem to think that not only do they have a right to tell everyone what
their personal opinion is (they're correct about that) but that somehow they
also have a "right" to IMPOSE THEIR WILL on everyone. WRONG! They do NOT!!
And so when they attempt to IMPOSE THEIR WILL on everyone (which is what
blocking gates and blocking streets is) they deserve to be clubbed. They do
NOT have the "right" to IMPOSE THEIR WILL on the rest of society, especially
not when the rest of society is in the vast majority and given that this is
a democratic republic.
Those hate-filled "peace" protestors can go to hell, and I for one hope the
Oakland police will CLUB THEM HARDER the next time those protestors pull
that crap.
John Richards
> What would I have the cops do? Well, they could start by refusing to
> represent solely the interest of the oligarchy. That's work for the
> bosses. They could arrest some corporate criminals, for a change.
> There are plenty of those. still free. They could get honest. They
> could also stop oppressing people themselves.
Wow, this sounds like it was copied straight out of a Karl Marx textbook.
Give it up, communism has lost.
--
John Richards
Old Gobbler
Freedom was never won from the blood of pacifist cowards.
These Protestors (traitor/commies) deserve bullets.
Polybius
conservatives....
Miguel O'Pastel
silly label. Traitor to what, the Bush Mafia?
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Bill Jarrell
I respect your consistancy in wanting to also use lead bullits on
rowdy sports fans and anti-abortion protestors, but you come off as
rather blood thirsty.
Michael Clark
> From: "Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats,alt.california,ba.politics
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:51:30 GMT
Exactly.
And while many miles have gone between Fonda and her sins, CPM earned his
award for his continuous and *current* flow of intolerance ... what is
*with* you wingnuts, anyhow - don't you read or think about anything
*current*?
Rene
Please try to stop being such a leftist ass, Jarrell. We all realize that's
hard for someone like you to do, but perhaps it's still possible.
Even sports fans and Democrats are subject to the law. If the Oakland hate
marchers become violent and lawless enough, they WILL be clubbed, they WILL
be beaten up, and yes, they WILL be shot. The Left does NOT have the
"right" to impose its will upon the rest of human society, and they do NOT
have the "right" to disrupt decent society from its normal day-to-day
activities, DESPITE how Truly Righteous the Left imagines their Cause du
Jour to be, Jarrell.
Miguel O'Pastel
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"Rene" <ReneS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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indecent.
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Bill Jarrell
> news:cb528405.0304...@posting.google.com...
> > Collin Peter Michaels <ch...@bnl24.ten.nl> wrote in message
> news:<Pine.LNX.4.21.030409...@bnl24.ten.nl>...
> > > On 8 Apr 2003, Bill Jarrell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Unless Collin Peter Micheals is willing to advocate using lead bullits
> > > > on rowdy sports fans and Operation Rescue protestors who overstep the
> > > > law, I think this is a fair assessment of his position.
> > >
> > > Absolutely. Anybody who doesn't understand what three repetitions of
> > > "please disperse" means, has no business polluting the gene pool.
> > > Political affiliation has nothing to do with it. This is about order.
> >
> > I respect your consistancy in wanting to also use lead bullits on
> > rowdy sports fans and anti-abortion protestors, but you come off as
> > rather blood thirsty.
>
>
> Please try to stop being such a leftist ass, Jarrell. We all realize that's
> hard for someone like you to do, but perhaps it's still possible.
>
> Even sports fans and Democrats are subject to the law. If the Oakland hate
> marchers become violent and lawless enough, they WILL be clubbed, they WILL
> be beaten up, and yes, they WILL be shot. The Left does NOT have the
> "right" to impose its will upon the rest of human society, and they do NOT
> have the "right" to disrupt decent society from its normal day-to-day
> activities, DESPITE how Truly Righteous the Left imagines their Cause du
> Jour to be, Jarrell.
No one is saying that people involved in unruly public gatherings
shouldn't be dealt with. But why advocate lead bullits which are often
leathal when nonleathal methods such as tear gas, plastic bullits,
water hoses are available? That is unless you're just pathetically
malicious and bloodthirsty? Maybe you and Collin Peter Micheals can
get off talking about using flame throwers at the next British soccer
riot?
Bill Jarrll
Miguel O'Pastel
<HD Formatted> wrote in message
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> On 9 Apr 2003 12:14:45 -0700, in alt.california
> be blood thirsty? One has a choice you know.
They are not society's laws, they are capitalist laws to further the
exploitation of people who work.
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ma...@merde.com
<nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote:
>They are not society's laws, they are capitalist laws to further the
>exploitation of people who work.
>M
Well spoken Komrade. Don't forget the Pogrom on Friday at 6 pm!
Miguel O'Pastel
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You have pogrom and purge confused in your little lackey brain. One has to
be a member to be purged. Like you were by NAMBLA for your extreme views.
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ma...@merde.com
<nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote:
>You have pogrom and purge confused in your little lackey brain. One has to
>be a member to be purged. Like you were by NAMBLA for your extreme views.
>M
>
Name calling? Is this a new tactic?
Rene
Hell, take your pick, Bill. Using bullwhips on those leftist Democrats
would work fine by me also! The sooner America rids itself of Leftist
vermin like them and like you, the better off this country will be.
The Pervert
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
>
> So who's disruptin decent society. The socity in the US is quite
> indecent.
> M
One can only wonder why you subject your alleged kids into living in such a
horrible place.
John Richards
>
>> So who's disruptin decent society. The socity in the US is quite
> indecent.
If that's your honest opinion of Americans, you should pack up and leave.
Cuba or China should suit you fine.
--
John Richards
Bill Jarrell
Gee Rene, I use to think you were just another emotionally driven
rightwinger with an irrational propensity for demonizing people you
disagree with, but saying this takes you beyond the realm of
McCarthyite into the realm of Nazi.
Bill Jarrell
>
> Freedom was never won from the blood of pacifist cowards.
>
King and the civil rights movement, Walesa's Solidarity movement in
Poland, Havel's "Velevet Revolution" in Czechoslavakia?
Miguel O'Pastel
"John Richards" <J...@DontSpam.me> wrote in message
knows now that the game is rigged and all that bullshit about democracy is a
scam.
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Miguel O'Pastel
<HD Formatted> wrote in message
> terrorist sympathizers who were routed by the Oakland police were
> interrupting the work of longshoremen in the area. In fact several
> longshoremen were injured by the actions of the terrorist
> sympathizers.
>
Yeah, right. A competent propagandist, you ain't.
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Miguel O'Pastel
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criminals aggression in Viet Nam. We got a right. Lots of criminals have
nice homes.
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John Richards
I agree that lobbyists have more influence on our legislature than they should,
but so far no one has implemented a better social system than what we have
in the US.
--
John Richards
John Richards
You may very well have the right, that's not the point. But as the previous
poster pointed out, why would you want to bring up your kids in a
society that (according to you) is corrupt and indecent? You have a
snowball's chance in hell as far as being successful at changing this society
more to your liking.
--
John Richards
The Pervert
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
The question stands. Certainly you have a right to live here. I wonder
why, considering you feel American society is an "indecent society" (your
term), you don't move your family to a society more to your way of thinking.
Didn't you mention Germany and Sweden as being preferable?
Rene
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
Oh, you poor widdle Leftist baby! We feel your pain!!
Now move to Communist China, where you and your ilk belong.....
Rene
Hardly. But hey, thanks for acknowledging that you Dems now recognize you
can't win this debate, and so have begun the usual (but tired and lame)
Democrat "debating" method of calling those who don't kiss your hero Tom
Daschle's butthole a bunch of "Nazis" or "McCarthyites". Apparently you
Democrats now truly believe that you can Win The Heart And Mind Of The
American Voter if you only remember to pepper your "arguments" on behalf of
your Socialist Agenda with enough instances of "McCarthyite" and "Nazi". A
few years ago, you Dems tried to Win The Heart And Mind Of The American
Voter by peppering your "arguments" with words such as "homophobe" and
"bigot". Turns out that tactic didn't work for you Dems either, so now the
GOP controls the presidency and the Senate, IN ADDITION to the House.
You Dems have the minds of squirrels who have been pithed.
Rene
Oh, do tell, Jarrell - which one of those marches helped you Dems win
control of the House, the Senate, or the Presidency of late?
Are ALL liberal Democrats as dumb and mindless as you, Jarrell??
Rene
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
Bill Jarrell isn't exactly the sharpest blade in the Democrats' drawer,
Miguel. His pathetic misspelling of "bullets" was noted, but with so many
inanities in his post to choose from, I didn't feel it worth my time
pointing out his laughable "But why advocate lead bullits", but I am pleased
that you took the time to do so, Miguel.
Yez
> The question stands. Certainly you have a right to live here. I
> wonder why, considering you feel American society is an "indecent
> society" (your term), you don't move your family to a society more
> to your way of thinking. Didn't you mention Germany and Sweden as
> being preferable?
Why not stay here where we were born, have worked and paid taxes all of
our lives and make an effort to shape our society like people of
conscience have been doing here for a few hundred years? (I don't
personally think our society is indecent, people are basically good,
but they are easily led and many of our leaders are *not* decent
people, remember when Albright said of a half million dead children
because of sanctions, "we think the price is worth it"? That was back
in '96, I don't know how many more kids have died since then, but our
leaders still think it's "worth it".)
'rena
--
Power to the people!
Miguel O'Pastel
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Miguel O'Pastel
"John Richards" <J...@DontSpam.me> wrote in message
happier than Americans, but who isn't? America consumes 55% of the world
illicit drug production for just that reason. By the way, I speak to
regular people on the street in Cuba and the first thing they say is: "don't
believe what those mafia bastards in Florida say"
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Miguel O'Pastel
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Rene
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
> You can say what you want, but I have been to Cuba and the people are
> happier than Americans, but who isn't?
Predictable pro-leftist, Daschle-loving Democrat. Thanks for finally
showing us your true colors, "Miguel"!
And oh yeah - F U, and the DNC pony you rode into town on, pal.
Miguel O'Pastel
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> an American. Your illegal linage obviously knew some good INS lawyers.
>
> >M
> >
What does this mean? Lay off the shrooms.
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Rene
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
It means that you Dems are mentally f*cked, Miguel.
John Richards
As a famous writer once said, there is a tide in the affairs of men...
Lately, the tide has all been going toward the right.
Perhaps things will swing the other way in about 20 years.
--
John Richards
John Richards
If Cubans have it so good, why don't we see boatloads of refugees going
over there (instead of the other way)???
--
John Richards
Rene
"John Richards" <J...@DontSpam.me> wrote in message
40 years, at the rate Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and Nancy Pelosi are
currently going.....
Bill Jarrell
Tom Daschle is not my "hero" so you're wrong on that account, but
since everything is a matter of crass generalizations, stereotypes,
and strawman arguments for you I don't expect you'd understand. I did
not call you or anyone else a "Nazi" for not performing lewd acts with
Senator Daschle or even for disagreeing with him. I said that you are
Nazi because of the malicious blood thirsty nature of your posts, your
insensitive advocacy of bullets. There is a big difference. Try
responding to what I actually say instead of jumping off the subject,
but since that involves intellectual honesty I don't really expect
that from you.
> Apparently you
> Democrats now truly believe that you can Win The Heart And Mind Of The
> American Voter if you only remember to pepper your "arguments" on behalf of
> your Socialist Agenda with enough instances of "McCarthyite" and "Nazi". A
> few years ago, you Dems tried to Win The Heart And Mind Of The American
> Voter by peppering your "arguments" with words such as "homophobe" and
> "bigot". Turns out that tactic didn't work for you Dems either, so now the
> GOP controls the presidency and the Senate, IN ADDITION to the House.
>
Once again, for I don't how many times, what is it with your crass
generalizations about "you Democrats?" I don't address you as "you
Republicans" or "you Conservatives" because I prefer treating people
as individuals and responding to what they actually say instead
arguing strawman stereotypes. Besides many Republicans would resent
being lumped with you and I am too much of a gentleman to do that.
Bill Jarrell
Bill Jarrell
> "Rene" <ReneS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6Lbla.397377$3D1.216182@sccrnsc01...
> >
> > "Bill Jarrell" <bjar...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:cb528405.03040...@posting.google.com...
> > >
> > > shouldn't be dealt with. But why advocate lead bullits which are often
> > > leathal when nonleathal methods such as tear gas, plastic bullits,
> > > water hoses are available? That is unless you're just pathetically
> > > malicious and bloodthirsty? Maybe you and Collin Peter Micheals can
> > > get off talking about using flame throwers at the next British soccer
> > > riot?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Jarrll
> >
> >
> > Hell, take your pick, Bill. Using bullwhips on those leftist Democrats
> > would work fine by me also! The sooner America rids itself of Leftist
> > vermin like them and like you, the better off this country will be.
> >
> Steve McQueen was Bullit. We shoot Bullets.
> M
Thanks for pointing out my spelling error. It can happen to the
best of us, just ask Dan Quayle.
Bill Jarrell
Bill Jarrell
2002 or 2000 election results have nothing to do with those movements.
Your question is irrelevent. You can gloat about the 2002 election all
you want, but you shouldn't let it cloud your thinking.
> Are ALL liberal Democrats as dumb and mindless as you, Jarrell??
Can't you do better than these middle school level ad hominems?
Bill Jarrell
Miguel O'Pastel
M
Miguel O'Pastel
"John Richards" <J...@DontSpam.me> wrote in message
Beautiful women. Food's not so great, a bit bland, so bring some hot sauce.
M
The Pervert
"Yez" <yez...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93599D32251F9...@127.0.0.1...
> The Pervert wrote on alt.california:
>
> > The question stands. Certainly you have a right to live here. I
> > wonder why, considering you feel American society is an "indecent
> > society" (your term), you don't move your family to a society more
> > to your way of thinking. Didn't you mention Germany and Sweden as
> > being preferable?
>
> Why not stay here where we were born, have worked and paid taxes all of
> our lives and make an effort to shape our society like people of
> conscience have been doing here for a few hundred years?
Ah, so you insist on posing another reasonable and not-all-that-simple
question, eh? FINE!
The question you pose is reasonable for a reasonable person. If you have
had the misfortune to read Mickey's garbage over the however-long, you may
have noticed a consistent thread. He hates capitalism, hates free market
economics, hates everything this country has done militaryily since the
Vietnam War and everything politically since the eighteenth century.
>(I don't personally think our society is indecent, people are
> basically good,
Omigod, another point on which we agree!
> but they are easily led and many of our leaders are *not* decent
> people, remember when Albright said of a half million dead children
> because of sanctions, "we think the price is worth it"? That was back
> in '96, I don't know how many more kids have died since then, but our
> leaders still think it's "worth it".)
I was a big fan of Sec'y Albright, and an even bigger fan of the Republican
former Ambassador to the United Nation (a woman whose name for some reason
escapes me at the 5am of this writing).
On one hand, the idea of even one innocent child dying is a tragedy. When
considering the larger picture, sometimes you have consider things in a
different context, i.e., half a million dead children. What I think is
crucial is to consider who is the real cause of these dead children? Ms.
Albright? Not at all. Former President Clinton? Not at all. Saddam
Hussein? Absolutely!
Was it worth it? That will be discussed and debated for years to come. An
additional question to be considered is how many millions upon millions of
children, in the long run, will live, and live to grow into adulthood in
some measure of decent circumstances because of the sanctions, and because
of the current military operation?
As you no doubt have figured out, I've become an ardent flag waver in my old
age, ever since coming back from Southeast Asia, having seen first hand how
people in other countris and cultures live (or at least try to live), and
how this country, as a matter of national policy and as a matter of quietly
heroic acts by individual soldiers, sailor, marines and airmen, try to
improve the human condition of the people we came in contact with.
And that, Yez, was a world class run-on sentence!
The Pervert
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
On one hand, Mickey, you're correct. You think not. You merely parrot
party line. On the other hand, I haven't stolen anything from you. And if
I had, you wouldn't get it back, just as you haven't so far.
But it is clear that more than actually doing anything, you get off on
playing the victim. Since that may be all you're qualified to do, you might
as well exploit your only marketable talent in this free market society.
Oh, you clever little closet capitalist, you.
The Pervert
"Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
Those 100,000 you claim are not seeking refuge (hence the term refugee) in
Cuba. According to you, they visit. And since you somehow neglected to
answer the question you were asked, I'll reprint it for your convenience
(because I'm so damned considerate). Maybe this time you'll manage a
simple, direct answer to the simple, direct question.
"If Cubans have it so good, why don't we see boatloads of refugees
going over there (instead of the other way)???"
And a follow up question of my own. If Cuba is such a "great place" and
American society is so "indecent," wouldn't it seem reasonable that a good
father (you *are* a good father, aren't you?) would want to take his
children and escape such indecency and seek refuge in that "great place?"
Pappy
Aw, come on, Pervie. Stop putting these whiny Liberals on the spot. They
have no answer and you know that. They love their whiny little piss matches.
They love it that we pay for their unemployment and other social
programs...they love to sit back and act superior, all the while knowing
they are on the losing end.
Give this guy credit...at least he didn't have any of his wife's embryos
aborted...or did he?
The Pervert
"Pappy" <An...@anon.com> wrote in message news:b7bdu2$9qe$0...@pita.alt.net...
>
> "The Pervert" <perv...@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:UM8ma.112259$ug3.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
>
> "Miguel O'Pastel" <nos...@whitehouse.scum> wrote in message
> news:FWrla.4605$JX2.3...@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > > 100,00 Americans visit every year..Great place. Cheap, good
> > > beaches. Beautiful women. Food's not so great, a bit bland,
> > > so bring some hot sauce.
> > > M
>
> > Those 100,000 you claim are not seeking refuge (hence the term refugee)
in
> > Cuba. According to you, they visit. And since you somehow neglected to
> > answer the question you were asked, I'll reprint it for your
convenience
> > (because I'm so damned considerate). Maybe this time you'll manage a
> > simple, direct answer to the simple, direct question.
>
> > "If Cubans have it so good, why don't we see boatloads of refugees
> > going over there (instead of the other way)???"
>
> > And a follow up question of my own. If Cuba is such a "great place" and
> > American society is so "indecent," wouldn't it seem reasonable that a
good
> > father (you *are* a good father, aren't you?) would want to take his
> > children and escape such indecency and seek refuge in that "great
place?"
> Aw, come on, Pervie. Stop putting these whiny Liberals on the spot. They
> have no answer and you know that.
Well, yeah. I do know that. But it's cheap entertainment to mess with
them. But Mickey isn't really a liberal. He's more of a wannabe
revolutionary that nobody takes seriously.
> They love their whiny little piss matches.
> They love it that we pay for their unemployment and other social
> programs...they love to sit back and act superior, all the while knowing
> they are on the losing end.
I have no problem with their being on the losing end. Once in a while you
get somebody intelligent one who can make you think and rethink your own
position, and maybe even modify it a bit. I like that! Doesn't happen all
that often, though, on either side of the spectrum.
> Give this guy credit...
Since I have never seen anything for which to give him any credit, that is a
difficult request.
>...at least he didn't have any of his wife's embryos
> aborted...or did he?
Sorry, Pappy. I'm a staunch pro-choice guy. Freedom does not allow for me
to deny the freedom of choice for others. And no, I don't believe the
not-yet-existent have the same rights as those who do, in fact, exist.
Note to the more self-righteous/hypocritical liberals: See? Republicans
can disagree on issues and remain civil.
Miguel O'Pastel
"The Pervert" <perv...@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UM8ma.112259$ug3.2...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
>
is fun to fuck with you eunuch war criminals now and then.
M
Miguel O'Pastel
M