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Jul 20, 2004, 5:04:24 PM7/20/04
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Funny how anyone would defend his stuffing stolen illegal classified
documents in his socks and underwear. Clinton koolaid drinkers at the punch
bowl again.


Colleagues defend Berger in documents probe
Davis: 'A person of impeccable honesty and integrity'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former colleagues Tuesday defended former national
security adviser Samuel Berger from allegations that he took secret
documents from the National Archives while reviewing Clinton administration
records for the 9/11 commission.

Sources said that among the documents Berger took were drafts of a Clinton
administration "after-action" report on efforts to thwart the so-called
"Millennium" plot, a suspected al Qaeda attack around the New Year's holiday
in late 1999.

In a statement issued late Monday, Berger said the removal of those papers
was unintentional. But law enforcement sources told CNN that some of the
papers he is said to have taken from the National Archives were stuffed into
his socks as well as other parts of his clothing.

That allegation drew sharp responses from two of Berger's associates.
President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger
"categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his
socks.

"That is absurd," said Lockhart, who is now advising Berger. "And anyone who
says that is interested in something other than the truth."

Former Clinton aide Lanny Davis challenged any unnamed official who accuses
Berger of stuffing documents into his socks to come forward and level that
charge publicly.

"I suggest that person is lying," he said. "And if that person has the guts,
let's see who it is who made the comment that Sandy Berger stuffed something
into his socks."

Davis called Berger "a person of impeccable honesty and integrity."

"He spent nights and 24-hour time periods before the millennium doing, I
think, a critical job in thwarting a terrorist attack between 1999 and 2000,
New Year's Eve," Davis told CNN's "American Morning."

"What we're told ... [is] he took copies of those memos inadvertently in his
own notes. There's absolutely no basis for suggesting there is any national
security issues here or harm done here."

One Berger associate said Berger acknowledges placing his handwritten notes
into his pants pockets, and perhaps into his jacket as well. National
Archives' policy requires that if someone reviews classified documents and
wants to take handwritten notes out, those notes must first be cleared by
archivists.

Berger said Monday that he returned everything he had after the National
Archives told him documents were missing, "except for a few documents that
apparently I had accidentally discarded."

"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of
withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my
knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton
administration was produced," he said in a written statement.

Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who
would review documents relevant to commission inquiries. He also was a
witness at the 9/11 commission hearings and reviewed records to prepare for
his personal testimony.

He currently serves as an informal adviser to the campaign of presumptive
Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services
Committee, told the Fox news channel Tuesday that Berger may have taken the
documents to help Kerry's campaign.

"I've seen Sandy Berger's protestations and he's proclaimed his innocence
and his good faith and said it was just a mistake -- he was just sloppy. I
think we accept that," Hunter said.

But Hunter said there was a "certain discipline" needed to separate politics
from public duty, "and obviously he's violated that discipline."

Kerry spokesman David Wade said the candidate was unaware of the probe, and
Wade said the campaign would have no comment on an ongoing investigation.

The investigation has been under way since October, and its disclosure the
week before the Democratic National Convention in Boston -- and just days
before the 9/11 commission is due to release its report -- led sources close
to Berger to question whether the news was leaked for political reasons.

"This has been kept confidential for months," a former Clinton
administration colleague said. "So why now?"

But an administration source told CNN that any suggestion the Justice
Department leaked the investigation on purpose now is "simply not true."

A government source said some of the documents at issue were classified as
"code word" materials -- the highest level of secrecy in the U.S.
government, making them held more closely than nuclear secrets. The source
said the 9/11 commission was briefed on the Berger investigation, but the
White House was never informed of the matter.

Archives officials told investigators that at least one draft of the
Millennium plot after-action report is still missing. But Al Felzenberg, a
spokesman for the 9/11 commission, said commissioners have no reason to
believe the Berger investigation will affect "the substance or integrity" of
its final report, due to be released Thursday.

Felzenberg said the panel "believes it had access to all materials needed to
do our report," and was "reasonably certain" it saw all versions of the
missing after-action memo.

Associates said Berger knew there were copies of the documents and that
former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke, the after-action report's
author, was cooperating with the commission inquiry. They questioned what
motive Berger would have had to take and destroy documents.

Two sources associated with the investigation said Berger's lawyer, Lanny
Breuer, made a detailed statement of Berger's view of the facts at issue
several months ago and has offered to talk to the Justice Department about a
resolution to the probe. Breuer has renewed his offer to talk several times
since, one of the Berger associates said, but said prosecutors have refused
to enter into such discussions.

In the case of the classified documents removed from the Archives, the
associate said Berger was reviewing thousands of documents and trying to
"power read" as much as possible -- placing some in a pile to be forwarded
to the 9/11 commission and others in a "nonresponsive" file to be returned,
because he did not believe they were relevant to the commission's requests.

Berger has told associates and his attorneys he deliberately set aside
drafts of the Millennium after-action report because it was a longer
document and "he knew he needed to take some time on it," according to one
adviser.

In Berger's account, after hours of reading documents he inadvertently took
the documents he had set aside to read later along with other materials and
a leather portfolio he had carried into to the screening room.

CNN's John King, Kelli Arena, Bob Franken and Pam Benson contributed to this
report.

Andy Weaks

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Jul 20, 2004, 8:39:21 PM7/20/04
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Another Clinton Stolen Classified Document Scandal wrote:
> Funny how anyone would defend his stuffing stolen illegal classified
> documents in his socks and underwear. Clinton koolaid drinkers at the punch
> bowl again.
>
>

This left wing American wants sandy to go to jail for a very long time,
there is not excuse for his actions. Let the mother fucker fry.

George

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Jul 21, 2004, 2:36:01 AM7/21/04
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"Andy Weaks" <awb...@labyrinth.net> wrote in message
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> Another Clinton Stolen Classified Document Scandal wrote:
> > Funny how anyone would defend his stuffing stolen illegal classified
> > documents in his socks and underwear. Clinton koolaid drinkers at the
punch
> > bowl again.
> >
> >
>
> This left wing American wants sandy to go to jail for a very long time,
> there is not excuse for his actions. Let the mother fucker fry.

Well said, young man! Well said.

The Pervert

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Jul 21, 2004, 3:30:56 PM7/21/04
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"George" <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote in message
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Just as a formality, might it be a good idea to get a few more facts out
before hanging the guy?


George

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"The Pervert" <perv...@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yep.

After we give him a fair trial and find him guilty...then we can hang him.


Dana

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Jul 21, 2004, 8:51:42 PM7/21/04
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"George" <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote in message
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But he was doing this for Kerry, so Kerry is also involved in this. Kerry
probably directed Berger to steal these documents. Hence we ought to arrest
Kerry and place him on trial as well.
>
>


The Pervert

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Jul 22, 2004, 8:00:26 AM7/22/04
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"Dana" <#$%@%$#.com> wrote in message
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Is there ANY evidence to that effect? Any at all?

Or is that nothing more than supposition based on... nothing but politics.


Eyeball Kid

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Jul 22, 2004, 9:30:35 AM7/22/04
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In article <cdl2or$o21$0...@pita.alt.net>, George
<spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:

Well said enough, if the young man checked his sources before believing
that Berger stuffed his socks with documents, which was a deliberate
lie made up by people who market lies for profit.

E. K.
>
>
>

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Eyeball Kid

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Jul 22, 2004, 9:42:12 AM7/22/04
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In article <5be0df7fa960c483...@news.meganetnews.com>,
Dana <#$%@%$#.com> wrote:

No he wasn't. He was ASKED to research his documents so that he could
testify before an investigative committee. He was researching his own
notes, his own comments on preventive actions that were taken regarding
counterterrorism efforts while he was Nat. Sec. Advisor. That's it.
Everything else can be classified as "lies for profit."

Andy Weaks and Dana have thinking problems.

The next Fox/Drudge scoop will be that Mario Cuomo kicked a pigeon,
causing severe injury to the helpless animal.

E. K.


> , so Kerry is also involved in this. Kerry
> probably directed Berger to steal these documents. Hence we ought to arrest
> Kerry and place him on trial as well.
> >
> >
>
>

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Purple Heart Band-Aid

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Jul 22, 2004, 10:45:26 AM7/22/04
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"Eyeball Kid" <jfm...@nospam.ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:220720040642121375%jfm...@nospam.ispwest.com...
: In article <5be0df7fa960c483...@news.meganetnews.com>,
: Dana <#$%@%$#.com> wrote:
:
:
: ..... research his documents so that he could

: testify before an investigative committee. He was researching his own
: notes, his own comments ...

NOW THAT IS A LIE! Unless of course he had hundreds of thousands of
classified documents! He was searching and found documents incriminating
to BJ Klintonesta and the many thousands of deaths resultant there from.
Even with Jamie (Reno's right-hand lawyer who EXPANDED the WALL PROBITING
FBI and CIA from sharing information ... per Klintonesta's directive to
TREAT cut throat, beheading terrorist as criminals, just like your traffic
tickets!).
there to lie and pretend (she wrote the policy and then sat sanctimoniously
on the
committee inquiring others about the 'wall'.... until Attorney John
Ashcroft let
her cat out of the bag .. disclosed the truth for the American public about
her
and her role in the Klinonesta Mafia operations to coddle
criminals..terrorist
were called petty criminals..thus to be coddled, cooed and left to continue
their plans to bomb the United States World Trade Center). It is VERY
INTERESTING
that the political committee was composed of those involved in this
nastiness and
that the Clinton MEMO SPECIFICALLY STATING INTENT TO BOMB THE WTC WAS
CONVENIENTLY
NOT DEALT WITH BY THE COMMITTEE! Bojinka! Klintoon drugged out...on bin
Laden's
product from the poppy fields...LOST THE NUCLEAR CODES! GET IT! Burger
was only
doing what his leader did and followed where he led! The creeping
corrosive crud
pours into the body politic from Klintonestas! Klintoon should have had a
dose of
interrogative tactics. It wouldn't have taken much for the girly-boy he is
and he'd
have sang louder than any wild bird. On second thought, Abu Grabi IS what
he wants,
so it probably wouldn't have worked! But take away his Big Mac's and the
TV and
he'd squirm like a worm in hot grease!


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Dog@wescalpum.net Running Dog

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Jul 22, 2004, 11:05:13 AM7/22/04
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That is the height of stupidity. Someone seen or knew he stuffed
documents in his socks or underwear and didn't try to stop him or say
nothing until now?
.
Some people will believe or say the most outrageous things much
quicker than the truth..

Lets hear the many reasons why the stuffing must be the truth.

I accidentlay stole Classified Docs 5 times @dc.gov Clinton Criminal Scandals Never End

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Jul 22, 2004, 9:21:46 PM7/22/04
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"Eyeball Kid" <jfm...@nospam.ispwest.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > But he was doing this for Kerry
>
> No he wasn't. He was ASKED to research his documents so that he could
> testify before an investigative committee. He was researching his own
> notes, his own comments on preventive actions that were taken regarding
> counterterrorism efforts while he was Nat. Sec. Advisor. That's it.
> Everything else can be classified as "lies for profit."
==============

Liar .


A government official familiar with the investigation said that some
documents are still missing.

Among the documents Berger says he inadvertently took, the sources
confirmed, were drafts of a Clinton administration "after action" report on
efforts to thwart al Qaeda around the time of the millennium.

Archives officials told investigators that at least one draft of that report
is still missing.

They said the drafts were written by Clinton counterterrorism czar Richard
Clarke and had been changed somewhat, as is customary, as the drafts were
circulated among relevant agencies and officials.

I accidentlay stole Classified Docs 5 times @dc.gov Clinton Criminal Scandals Never End

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Jul 22, 2004, 9:24:52 PM7/22/04
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"Running Dog" <Running D...@WeScalpUm.net> wrote in message
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> That is the height of stupidity. Someone seen or knew he stuffed
> documents in his socks or underwear and didn't try to stop him or say
> nothing until now?
=====================

They reported it 9 months ago asshole. The investigation has been going on
since then. It only became public this week shit for brains.


Archives Staff Was Suspicious of Berger
Why Documents Were Missing Is Disputed
By John F. Harris and Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 22, 2004; Page A06


Last Oct. 2, former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy"
Berger stayed huddled over papers at the National Archives until 8 p.m.

What he did not know as he labored through that long Thursday was that the
same Archives employees who were solicitously retrieving documents for him
were also watching their important visitor with a suspicious eye.

After Berger's previous visit, in September, Archives officials believed
documents were missing. This time, they specially coded the papers to more
easily tell whether some disappeared, said government officials and legal
sources familiar with the case.

The notion of one of Washington's most respected foreign policy figures
being subjected to treatment that had at least a faint odor of a sting
operation is a strange one. But the peculiarities -- and conflicting
versions of events and possible motives -- were just then beginning in a
case that this week bucked Berger out of an esteemed position as a leader of
the Democratic government-in-waiting that had assembled around presidential
nominee John F. Kerry.

As his attorneys tell it, Berger had no idea in October that documents were
missing from the Archives, or that archivists suspected him in the
disappearance. It was not until two days later, on Saturday, Oct. 4, that he
was contacted by Archives employees who said that they were concerned about
missing files, from his September and October visits. This call -- in
Berger's version of the chronology, which is disputed in essential respects
by a government official with knowledge of the investigation -- was made
with a tone of concern, but not accusation.

Berger, his attorney Lanny Breuer said, checked his office and realized for
the first time that he had walked out -- unintentionally, he says -- with
important papers relating to the Clinton administration's efforts to combat
terrorism.

Berger alerted Archives employees that evening to what he had found. The
classified documents were sensitive enough that employees arrived on a
Sunday morning to pick them up.

Several days later, after he had retained Breuer as counsel, Berger
volunteered that he had also taken 40 to 50 pages of notes during three
visits to the Archives beginning in July, the lawyer said. Berger turned the
notes over to the Archives. He has acknowledged through attorneys that he
knowingly did not show these papers to Archives officials for review before
leaving -- a violation of Archives rules, but not one that he perceived as a
serious security lapse.

By then, however, Archives officials had served notice that there were other
documents missing. Despite searching his home and office, Berger could not
find them. By January, the FBI had been brought in, and Berger found himself
in a criminal investigation -- one that he chose not to tell Kerry's
campaign about until this week.

But three days after the disclosure of the Berger investigation, many of the
basic facts of the controversy remain unknown or are contested, as well as
more subjective questions about how seriously his lapse should be regarded
or its effect on politics this year.

A government official with knowledge of the investigation said Archives
employees took action promptly after noticing a missing document in
September. This official said an Archives employee called former White House
deputy counsel Bruce Lindsey, who is former president Bill Clinton's liaison
to the National Archives. The Archives employee said documents were missing
and would have to be returned.

Under this version of events -- which Breuer denied -- documents were
returned the following day from Berger's office to the Archives. Not
included in these papers, the government official said, were any drafts of
the document at the center of this week's controversy.

The documents that Berger has acknowledged taking -- some of which remain
missing -- are different drafts of a January 2000 "after-action review" of
how the government responded to terrorism plots at the turn of the
millennium. The document was written by White House anti-terrorism
coordinator Richard A. Clarke, at Berger's direction when he was in
government.

Lindsey, now in private legal practice in Little Rock, did not return
telephone and e-mail messages.


Dog@wescalpum.net Running Dog

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:24:52 -0400, "Clinton Criminal Scandals Never
End" <BWhoopsie I accidentlay stole Classified Docs 5 times @DC.Gov>
wrote:

>
>"Running Dog" <Running D...@WeScalpUm.net> wrote in message
>news:bblvf0pp6odrj5s7e...@4ax.com...
>> That is the height of stupidity. Someone seen or knew he stuffed
>> documents in his socks or underwear and didn't try to stop him or say
>> nothing until now?
>=====================
>
>They reported it 9 months ago asshole. The investigation has been going on
>since then. It only became public this week shit for brains.

Not to worry I know all my one liners apply to you and those just like
you.
However: as you like insults I will just once return you one and never
reply to you again.
Posting an article that says nothing about stuffing shows you have the
intelligence of a partial birth abortion spawned by Clinton on a crank
whore, which was found several days later in a dumpster.

George

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Jul 23, 2004, 7:44:51 AM7/23/04
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"Running Dog" <Running D...@WeScalpUm.net> wrote in message
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> That is the height of stupidity. Someone seen or knew he stuffed
> documents in his socks or underwear and didn't try to stop him or say
> nothing until now?
> .
> Some people will believe or say the most outrageous things much
> quicker than the truth..

Is that why liberals believe that "BUSH LIED" when in fact he didn't?

Is that why liberals believe that Bush was AWOL or a deserter when the
record shows he wasn't?

>
> Lets hear the many reasons why the stuffing must be the truth.

Is that why liberals made such a big deal about Bush's old DUI -- and then
waited until just before the 2000 election to leak it to the press?

Smells like liberals hypocrisy -- again.


Mitchell Holman

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Jul 23, 2004, 9:15:15 AM7/23/04
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"George" <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote in
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>
> "Running Dog" <Running D...@WeScalpUm.net> wrote in message
> news:bblvf0pp6odrj5s7e...@4ax.com...
>> That is the height of stupidity. Someone seen or knew he stuffed
>> documents in his socks or underwear and didn't try to stop him or say
>> nothing until now?
>> .
>> Some people will believe or say the most outrageous things much
>> quicker than the truth..
>
> Is that why liberals believe that "BUSH LIED" when in fact he didn't?
>
> Is that why liberals believe that Bush was AWOL or a deserter when the
> record shows he wasn't?


"And after releasing the records, the White House press
secretary, Scott McClellan, could not explain why, if Bush
appeared for duty on the days listed in the documents, Bush's
superiors wrote on May 2, 1973, that he had not been seen at
his Houston air base for the previous 12 months."
Boston Globe 2/11/2004


>>
>> Lets hear the many reasons why the stuffing must be the truth.
>
> Is that why liberals made such a big deal about Bush's old DUI -- and
> then waited until just before the 2000 election to leak it to the press?


It wasn't "liberals" who leaked it to the
press. It was the cop who arrested him calling
the local tv station.

Regarding the conviction that Bush LIED about
for years.

The first Convicted Criminal to become president -
a new first for the party of "tough on crime".......


Mitchell Holman

"Just after the governor's re-election in 1998, Dallas
Morning News reporter Wayne Slater pressed Bush about
whether he had ever been arrested. 'He said, "After
1968? No."'DMN, 11/4/00

George

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Jul 25, 2004, 7:47:27 AM7/25/04
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eene...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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Liar.

It was two DEMOCRATIC PARTY operatives who leaked the information to the
press. It was done to spike the Bush 2000 campaign just before the
election.

Personally, I HOPE that the Republicans *did* release it. Because it ties
Traitor Johnny Kerry with a man who emobodies the ideals of the CLINTONs and
the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

And what are those, you ask? Sell US rockets secrets for money -- take
BRIBES (er, "campaign contributions) -- to China. And STEAL all copies of
the classified information that can prove that the Democratic Party stands
for appeasement and treason, and destroy it before it can be used against
America's ONLY presidential candiate who is honored by our enemies as their
ally.

Traitor Johnny should be sent to the BIG HOUSE, not the White House.


Mitchell Holman

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Jul 25, 2004, 10:59:43 AM7/25/04
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"George" <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote in
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Rush said it, you believe it, and that settles it?

Post your proof.


Mitchell Holman

"Gov. George W. Bush, who acknowledged Thursday that
he pleaded guilty in 1976 to a drunken driving charge,
told The Dallas Morning News two years ago that he had
not been arrested after 1968."
Dallas Morning News, 11/4/00


Ashland Henderson

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Jul 25, 2004, 3:00:23 PM7/25/04
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"George" <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote in message news:<cdmhek$2hv$0...@pita.alt.net>...

I do so love seeing the far right willing to convict people by newspaper
report. Makes you wonder about their committment to the Constitution and
little items like innocent until proven guilty.

Dana

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Jul 25, 2004, 2:51:25 PM7/25/04
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"Ashland Henderson" <macea...@astound.net> wrote in message
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He was caught with classified documents stuffed down his pants, and socks.
Seems very solid that he is guilty as charged, as there is no reason to
stuff the documents down your pants unless you were stealing them.


Ashland Henderson

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Jul 26, 2004, 12:47:45 PM7/26/04
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Don't understand the law, I see. Not surprising.

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