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ericmatteson...@hotmail.com

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:04:42 PM11/30/07
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It is extremely unfair for any state to require people to
buy health insurance. You can get out of auto liability
insurance by not driving. They are not equivalent.
..
Mandatory health insurance premiums can increase
without limit. deductibles can increase and coverage
can be reduced. Private health insurance is
inefficient with so much money going to beauacracy
and expensive televison ads and Doctors like writers getting
little or nothing.
The high cost of mandatory health insurance premiums
will make middle class people homeless because
food and mortgage payments use up entire paychecks
in the middle class.
Everybody who is able to afford health insurance already has
chosen to buy it because nobody wants to lose their home
because of auto accidents or severe illness. People who
already have health insurance get less coverage and pay higher
premiums when their states convert to mandatory health
insurance because middle class workers higher
income based premiums subsidize poor people
on welfare and part time minimum wage workers.
Mandatory health insurance might take state money away
from needed county hospitals and emergency rooms
leaving people with less healh care and not more.
Will part of a middle class persons premium from a
hard worker who attends church be used to pay for
a poor womans abortion on Californias proposed
mandatory health insurance ??
Please vote NO on mandatory health insurance for
California. County hospitals already provide
better quality health care including surgery
than HMOs and at a lower cost.
If voters want universal health care voters should vote
for new taxes to support county hospitals and emergency
rooms and whatever is needed.
My alternative is to vote for a TAX ON GAS.
The burning of gasoline causes auto accidents that
hurt young people who are unable to afford health
insurance. Every gallon of gasoline that is burned
causes air pollution and global warming that is
bad for health. The right thing to do is to vote
for a new gasoline tax (or healthcare FEE on gasoline)
for every gallon of gasoline that is bought in California.
Use that new gas tax (Or healthcare FEE) to fund
county hospitals and teaching hospitals and medical
school trauma centers and surgery centers and
medical research places that combine education for
doctors with healthcare for people who need it even
if they have no health insurance. The medical education
link to this healthcare gasoline tax (Or fee) enables it
to pass with permission from only 55% of California
voters instead of needing a full 66.7% of voters.
This additonal education will increase the number of
skilled surgeons so the increased supply of doctors
to meet the demand for healthcare will reduce the COST.
Please vote for this new 5% to 45% tax on the price
of each gallon of gasoline on the California ballot.
...
An all volunteer jury system will reduce the amount of
outrageously large medical malpractice awards because
jurors who are in court voluntarily will be better educated
and more accurate than drafted jurors forced into court
even though they are not qualified.
An all volunteer jury system will then reduce the cost
of healthcare.
....
Please cancel mandatory health insurance in California.
If you want more healthcare please vote for the
healthcare and medical education fee or tax on
every gallon of gasoline sold in California. This will bring
healthcare costs to drivers just like car insurance.
Also vote for an all volunteer jury system so no
unqualified people will be forced to go to court
and be in a position of randomly inflating malpractice claims
a hundred times the actual damage.
Eric Matteson (A Voter!!!!!!!!)

Mitchell Holman

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:18:25 PM11/30/07
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ericmatteson...@hotmail.com wrote in news:323dcfdc-9075-439d-a193-
f91bcf...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

>
> ...
> An all volunteer jury system will reduce the amount of
> outrageously large medical malpractice awards because
> jurors who are in court voluntarily will be better educated
> and more accurate than drafted jurors forced into court
> even though they are not qualified.
> An all volunteer jury system will then reduce the cost
> of healthcare.


Yeah, right.

Insurance companies would pack the "juries" with
their "volunteers" and rule accordingly, absolving all
doctors of whatever they do wrong, and the injured
patients would get nothing.

Hospital Repeats Wrong-Sided Brain Surgery

Nov. 28, 2007

For the third time this year, doctors at Rhode Island
Hospital have operated on the wrong side of a patient's
head -- an action that has brought about censure from the
state Department of Health and a $50,000 fine.

The most recent incident occurred Friday, Nov. 23. An
82-year-old woman, whose name has not been released,
required an operation to stop bleeding between her brain
and her skull.

"They started the operation on the wrong side [and] figured
out that they were operating on the wrong side before they
got too far into the operation," Dr. David Gifford of the
Rhode Island Department of Health told "Good Morning America"
today. He added that after closing the incisions created on
the wrong side of the patient's head, they were able to
continue the operation on the correct side and remove a
dangerous clot.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=3925810&page=1



Nebuchadnezzar II

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Dec 1, 2007, 3:23:41 PM12/1/07
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<ericmatteson...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:323dcfdc-9075-439d...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> It is extremely unfair for any state to require people to
> buy health insurance. You can get out of auto liability
> insurance by not driving. They are not equivalent.
> ..

Then explain how it's fair for those who are paying for insurance have to
pay higher premiums because those who don't have health insurance leave
doctors and hospitals holding the bag. Explain how it's fair that
responsible people can't afford non-group health insurance policies because
there are so many people who "get out" of paying for health insurance that
they will inevitably need at some point. When everyone pays, everyone pays
less. Seeing as how we as a society can't let someone bleed to death if
they have been in an accident and don't have health insurance. Until
someone can "get out" of mandatory treatment, they shouldn't be able to "get
out" of mandatory insurance.

ericmatteson...@hotmail.com

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Dec 8, 2007, 3:08:40 PM12/8/07
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On Nov 30, 8:18 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noemailple...@comcast.com> wrote:
> ericmatteson2003novem...@hotmail.com wrote in news:323dcfdc-9075-439d-a193-
> f91bcfb33...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

>
>
>
> > ...
> > An all volunteer jury system will reduce the amount of
> > outrageously large medical malpractice awards because
> > jurors who are in court voluntarily will be better educated
> > and more accurate than drafted jurors forced into court
> > even though they are not qualified.
> > An all volunteer jury system will then reduce the cost
> > of healthcare.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> Insurance companies would pack the "juries" with
> their "volunteers" and rule accordingly, absolving all
> doctors of whatever they do wrong, and the injured
> patients would get nothing.
>
The all volunteer jury system that I want the legislatures and
congress to pass
has each individual trial choose names of jurors who have volunteered
to begin that
week at that courthouse out of a red hat so each individual trial
still has
randomly chosen jurors. In my proposed all volunteer jury system IRS
records
are checked to identify tax withholding employers of each volunteer
who
is volunteering for jury duty. Insurance company employees will be
banned from cases including civil cases that their employer might have
biased them on. The draftee jury system of November 2007 has no
employer or IRS tax records checking. Answers to juror questioning
depend on the honesty of draftees in the draftee juror system.
..
Another reason to oppose mandatory jury duty is because mandatory jury
duty
makes it easier to restart the larger mandatory military service that
you
have already registered for at the U.S. post office at age 18.
click here at the link
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv/msg/cab1e8a77d0bc894

ericmatteson...@hotmail.com

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Dec 15, 2007, 6:32:32 PM12/15/07
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On Dec 1, 12:23 pm, "Nebuchadnezzar II" <nebuchadnez...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> <ericmatteson2003novem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
A primary reason that health insurance is unafordable is that there
are
NOT ENOUGH DOCTORS to perform surgery or provide any type of health
care to patients who already have insurance. Calfornia Democrats plan
on
increasing the number of insured people WITHOUT INCREASING THE NUMBER
OF SURGEONS or any doctors. Even if people are required to but
insurance
what good can be accomplished when there are NO NEW DOCTORS
to treat those additional insured people. High education costs are
reducing
the number of students in CSU and UC universities so nobody is
eligible to enter medical school.
Add a TAX on GASOLINE to support higher education leading to more
doctors instead of a worthless requirement to buy worthless junk
health insurance. They might ammend the bill to allow employees the
option of paying a 6.5% tax to support Californias county hospitals
instead of buying private insurance. Businesses can already opt out
of buying health insurance for employees by paying a tax of up to
6.5% of their payroll. It is only fair that individuals including
employees
be given the same option of paying up to 6.5% of their income
in a tax to the state instead of buying private insurance. It is
unfair
to make things more difficult for individuals than their employers
with
private insurance that employers can already buy exemption from with a
1% tax on payrolls under $250,000.00
Eric Matteson

Brian Mason

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Dec 31, 2007, 12:17:20 PM12/31/07
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Everyone wants healthcare to be good and cheap. Healthcare is NOT the same
as health insurance.

By and large, people in this country receive good healthcare - insured or
not. Yes, there are horrific anecdotes but the survival rates compare
very well with other nations.

Mandatory health insurance is a scam. The program in Massachusetts started
out as a modest requirement. Soon providers started adding on(hair
transplants etc.) and costs soared. They will soar higher and more will be
done to make people pay for their neighbor's health choices - bureaucrats
getting a cut of course.


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