Sounds lovely. Men will still read it a thousand years from now.
Ok, back to practical reality.
>When a law banning some kind of gun is upheld on
>> appeal, the appellate court is not "limiting" your right,
Of course it is. If he has a right to any and all arms, his right to
bear is being infringed by the courts. "CONGRESS shall not . . ."
>> as Hartung
>> like to lie. No, the right already carries with it *inherent* limits,
>> and the court is finding that the ban is *within* the limits of the
>> right.
What are the inherent limits? It's been asked but not answered.
>> You don't have a right
"You don't have the right" is not the same as "You can't have."
> to just whatever arms you may wish to have.
>> This is a matter of text, history and judicial interpretation, and it
>> is settled. scooter, Francis Mark Hansen, Hartung, BlueGirl, kleine
>> klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike — these right-wingnuts think the
>> right is to just whatever arms they might wish to have, and that is
>> false. If Congress were to pass a law prohibiting private ownership
>> ("keeping") of, say, shoulder-fired anti-tank missiles, that law would
>> be upheld. Such arms are outside the inherent limits of the right, so
>> banning them doesn't violate the right.
>
>You overlook the facts
No, I don't.
> that when these documents were forged, the intent
>was to have arms to defend against the forces that sought to destroy the
>Americans for their rebellion against the monarchy. Having arms suitable
>to defend the American homeland was the intention.
They all had hunting rifles and perhaps other, sporty guns? Artillery?
Attack fighters? Bombers? Carriers?
>see: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
>Happiness.—
Lovely but I don't think those truths are "self evident", all men are
NOT created equal (but they should be entitled to equal opportunity
and treatment before the law) and rights aren't natural or
inalienable, they're human construct.
The only right nature gives you is the right to survive long enough to
reproduce.
>That to secure these rights,
Not just secure but define. The Declaration of the Rights of Man
contains the right to free health care. Do you agree with that right?
>Governments are instituted
>among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—
Majority rule. You don't have the right to insist you got more votes
than the other guy unless you did.
>That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
>it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
>institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
>organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to
>effect their Safety and Happiness.
Sounds lovely but . . .