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Hisler

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:10:07 PM12/19/09
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Remember Lewiston? That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
trying to crack down on "immigrants." Now the "immigrants" are
terrorizing the white community. Diversity is our strength!

http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-white-people-in-lewiston-maine/

In the early evening on the first day of summer, a large group of Somali
boys approached a woman on the corner of Ash and Pierce streets.
According to police reports, they intimidated the woman and slapped her
in the back of the head before scattering into the downtown.

Five days later, shortly after midnight, a man was accosted by a group
of Somali boys outside the Big Apple on Main Street. Police reports say
several members of the group punched the man and took money from him.
They then fled in a car.

Later that night, a woman in her late 60s was beaten by a group of
Somali boys and relieved of cash while walking in Kennedy Park.

Five nights later, another man was jumped by a group of similar
description. He resisted the gang and was beaten badly. He required surgery.

A typical white victim of Somali attacks

A typical white victim of Somali attacks

Throughout the summer, similar reports have come into the Police
Department. Witnesses and investigators say swarms of Somali boys, some
as young as 8, others in their late teens, overwhelm solitary victims
through sheer numbers.

�It�s not gang activity in the traditional sense,� Deputy Chief James
Minkowsky said. �We�re not seeing the colors or the monikers, but it�s
still a gang mentality.�

Often, these gang members carry sticks and rocks with which to
intimidate their victims. There are often four or five of them,
sometimes as many as a dozen. Typically, they threaten or beat their
victims until they give up the goods: money, bicycles, cell phones,
prescription drugs, or other items of value.

Then they scatter.

�By the time the call gets to us, the group has dispersed,� Minkowsky said.

The attacks continued all summer; more than a dozen were reported to
police. There were more in the fall and a series of them in recent
weeks. In each attack, the victim is one who may have appeared weak to
the group that descended on them.

�They single out a person who is walking alone. The victim is often
intoxicated,� Minkowsky said. �Or he might be small. They look for
someone who is not likely to fight back or present much of a challenge.�

On the first day of December, a man walking through Kennedy Park after
leaving a Park Street club said he was attacked by four Somali males.
The group came at him from behind, knocked him down and stole
prescription drugs and $150 in cash. That man told police it was the
second time he was attacked in such a fashion. The first time, he was
able to escape.

<http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20of%20Somali%20attacks>

Another typical white victim of Somali attacks

On the last day of November, there were three such attacks reported in
Lewiston: one in the area of Central Maine Medical Center, another on
Bartlett Street, the third in Kennedy Park.

In another attack, a woman walking a dog in the park was set upon. The
assailants, a group of Somali males, beat her dog with a stick. Police
later tracked down one of the attackers. He was a 10-year-old boy.

In late summer, an off-duty civilian police employee was eating at a
local restaurant. A local boy ran to the window, screaming for help. The
police employee ran outside and found a group � roughly a half-dozen �
of Somali boys. When confronted, they ran off.

Police say they are investigating the attacks on several fronts. They
are using new technology and new techniques. A bigger break came in
recent weeks when they were approached by a group that wants to help.

�Members of the Somali community came to us,� Minkowsky says. �They set
up a meeting with us and came in to talk about it. They want to help us
combat it.�

Police Chief Michael Bussiere pointed out that the attackers do not
appear to involve large segments of the Somali population. It seems to
be a select group that has organized to carry out the attacks.

Police say group robberies are almost unheard of in Lewiston. In the
past, when multiple people have attacked a lone victim, two or three
assailants were reported and the assault was typically prompted by
intoxication or old rivalries.

Not so with the Somali attacks.

�We haven�t seen that it�s been fueled by alcohol or drugs,� Minkowsky
said. He added that robbery appears to be a primary motivation among the
Somali gangs. �But in some cases, they seem to do it for the thrill of it.�

Stephen Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate
Violence, said he was not aware of the Somali assaults in Lewiston.
After hearing the nature of them, he said the attacks likely were not
the type that involve his group. The motive appears to be robbery,
rather than race.

While investigating the ambush-style attacks, police have little to
compare them with, at least locally. A search of assaults dating back to
spring revealed no incidents of a similar nature involving non-Somalis.

�This is unique,� Minkowsky said.

There have been a few arrests since the attacks began. Minkowsky said
many of the suspects had dropped out of school. Their parents seemed to
have no idea that their children had become part of a roving gang.

Seeing children as young as 8 running the streets with teens closing in
on 20 is something police are not used to seeing. There is a lot about
the attacks investigators have not seen before.

That�s why it helps them enormously to have input from the Somali elders.

�It�s an interesting dynamic for us,� Minkowsky said. �We�re still on
the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community is
probably our best chance to resolve it.�

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Hisler
alt.politics.immigration
www.globalgulag.us


johnny@.

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:25:10 PM12/19/09
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Work with the Elders to "resolve" it? They make it sound like the
Elders are like the wise man at the top of a mountain, that you have to
climb to ask a question. The Elders are savages just like the young
Somalis, or they would have already taught them how much better this
country is, and the opportunities they have, that they wouldn't have had
in Somalia.

The people of this town should go armed at all times, and when attacked,
shoot to kill. The attacks would stop quickly.

Hisler

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:38:24 PM12/19/09
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Exactly. Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
veterans" in Zimbabwe. Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?" As the late
comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
on the gas."

Gunner Asch

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:34:14 PM12/19/09
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:38:24 -0700, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:

>>>
>> Work with the Elders to "resolve" it? They make it sound like the
>> Elders are like the wise man at the top of a mountain, that you have to
>> climb to ask a question. The Elders are savages just like the young
>> Somalis, or they would have already taught them how much better this
>> country is, and the opportunities they have, that they wouldn't have had
>> in Somalia.
>>
>> The people of this town should go armed at all times, and when attacked,
>> shoot to kill. The attacks would stop quickly.
>
>Exactly. Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
>farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
>veterans" in Zimbabwe. Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
>got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
>to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?" As the late
>comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
>on the gas."

Unfortunately...I agree.

Gunner


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charles q

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:20:03 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 12:10 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
> Remember Lewiston?  That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
> trying to crack down on "immigrants."  Now the "immigrants" are
> terrorizing the white community.  Diversity is our strength!
>
> http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-w...

>
> In the early evening on the first day of summer, a large group of Somali
> boys approached a woman on the corner of Ash and Pierce streets.
> According to police reports, they intimidated the woman and slapped her
> in the back of the head before scattering into the downtown.
>
> Five days later, shortly after midnight, a man was accosted by a group
> of Somali boys outside the Big Apple on Main Street. Police reports say
> several members of the group punched the man and took money from him.
> They then fled in a car.
>
> Later that night, a woman in her late 60s was beaten by a group of
> Somali boys and relieved of cash while walking in Kennedy Park.
>
> Five nights later, another man was jumped by a group of similar
> description. He resisted the gang and was beaten badly. He required surgery.
>
> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> Throughout the summer, similar reports have come into the Police
> Department. Witnesses and investigators say swarms of Somali boys, some
> as young as 8, others in their late teens, overwhelm solitary victims
> through sheer numbers.
>
> “It’s not gang activity in the traditional sense,” Deputy Chief James
> Minkowsky said. “We’re not seeing the colors or the monikers, but it’s
> still a gang mentality.”

>
> Often, these gang members carry sticks and rocks with which to
> intimidate their victims. There are often four or five of them,
> sometimes as many as a dozen. Typically, they threaten or beat their
> victims until they give up the goods: money, bicycles, cell phones,
> prescription drugs, or other items of value.
>
> Then they scatter.
>
> “By the time the call gets to us, the group has dispersed,” Minkowsky said.

>
> The attacks continued all summer; more than a dozen were reported to
> police. There were more in the fall and a series of them in recent
> weeks. In each attack, the victim is one who may have appeared weak to
> the group that descended on them.
>
> “They single out a person who is walking alone. The victim is often
> intoxicated,” Minkowsky said. “Or he might be small. They look for
> someone who is not likely to fight back or present much of a challenge.”

>
> On the first day of December, a man walking through Kennedy Park after
> leaving a Park Street club said he was attacked by four Somali males.
> The group came at him from behind, knocked him down and stole
> prescription drugs and $150 in cash. That man told police it was the
> second time he was attacked in such a fashion. The first time, he was
> able to escape.
>
> <http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20...>

>
> Another typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> On the last day of November, there were three such attacks reported in
> Lewiston: one in the area of Central Maine Medical Center, another on
> Bartlett Street, the third in Kennedy Park.
>
> In another attack, a woman walking a dog in the park was set upon. The
> assailants, a group of Somali males, beat her dog with a stick. Police
> later tracked down one of the attackers. He was a 10-year-old boy.
>
> In late summer, an off-duty civilian police employee was eating at a
> local restaurant. A local boy ran to the window, screaming for help. The
> police employee ran outside and found a group — roughly a half-dozen —

> of Somali boys. When confronted, they ran off.
>
> Police say they are investigating the attacks on several fronts. They
> are using new technology and new techniques. A bigger break came in
> recent weeks when they were approached by a group that wants to help.
>
> “Members of the Somali community came to us,” Minkowsky says. “They set

> up a meeting with us and came in to talk about it. They want to help us
> combat it.”

>
> Police Chief Michael Bussiere pointed out that the attackers do not
> appear to involve large segments of the Somali population. It seems to
> be a select group that has organized to carry out the attacks.
>
> Police say group robberies are almost unheard of in Lewiston. In the
> past, when multiple people have attacked a lone victim, two or three
> assailants were reported and the assault was typically prompted by
> intoxication or old rivalries.
>
> Not so with the Somali attacks.
>
> “We haven’t seen that it’s been fueled by alcohol or drugs,” Minkowsky

> said. He added that robbery appears to be a primary motivation among the
> Somali gangs. “But in some cases, they seem to do it for the thrill of it.”

>
> Stephen Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate
> Violence, said he was not aware of the Somali assaults in Lewiston.
> After hearing the nature of them, he said the attacks likely were not
> the type that involve his group. The motive appears to be robbery,
> rather than race.
>
> While investigating the ambush-style attacks, police have little to
> compare them with, at least locally. A search of assaults dating back to
> spring revealed no incidents of a similar nature involving non-Somalis.
>
> “This is unique,” Minkowsky said.

>
> There have been a few arrests since the attacks began. Minkowsky said
> many of the suspects had dropped out of school. Their parents seemed to
> have no idea that their children had become part of a roving gang.
>
> Seeing children as young as 8 running the streets with teens closing in
> on 20 is something police are not used to seeing. There is a lot about
> the attacks investigators have not seen before.
>
> That’s why it helps them enormously to have input from the Somali elders.
>
> “It’s an interesting dynamic for us,” Minkowsky said. “We’re still on

> the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community is
> probably our best chance to resolve it.”
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hisler
> alt.politics.immigrationwww.globalgulag.us

Just another of the very many reasons we need to close our borders and
to also quit allowing ever and anyone immagrate here.We need to take
care of our own and get our country back on it's feet before wee keep
allowing others to come here right now

cornholio

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:50:45 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 12:25 pm, " johnny@." <joh...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hisler wrote:
> > Remember Lewiston?  That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
> > trying to crack down on "immigrants."  Now the "immigrants" are
> > terrorizing the white community.  Diversity is our strength!
>
> >http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-w...

>
> > In the early evening on the first day of summer, a large group of Somali
> > boys approached a woman on the corner of Ash and Pierce streets.
> > According to police reports, they intimidated the woman and slapped her
> > in the back of the head before scattering into the downtown.
>
> > Five days later, shortly after midnight, a man was accosted by a group
> > of Somali boys outside the Big Apple on Main Street. Police reports say
> > several members of the group punched the man and took money from him.
> > They then fled in a car.
>
> > Later that night, a woman in her late 60s was beaten by a group of
> > Somali boys and relieved of cash while walking in Kennedy Park.
>
> > Five nights later, another man was jumped by a group of similar
> > description. He resisted the gang and was beaten badly. He required
> > surgery.
>
> > A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> > A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> > Throughout the summer, similar reports have come into the Police
> > Department. Witnesses and investigators say swarms of Somali boys, some
> > as young as 8, others in their late teens, overwhelm solitary victims
> > through sheer numbers.
>
> > “It’s not gang activity in the traditional sense,” Deputy Chief James
> > Minkowsky said. “We’re not seeing the colors or the monikers, but it’s
> > still a gang mentality.”
>
> > Often, these gang members carry sticks and rocks with which to
> > intimidate their victims. There are often four or five of them,
> > sometimes as many as a dozen. Typically, they threaten or beat their
> > victims until they give up the goods: money, bicycles, cell phones,
> > prescription drugs, or other items of value.
>
> > Then they scatter.
>
> > “By the time the call gets to us, the group has dispersed,” Minkowsky said.

>
> > The attacks continued all summer; more than a dozen were reported to
> > police. There were more in the fall and a series of them in recent
> > weeks. In each attack, the victim is one who may have appeared weak to
> > the group that descended on them.
>
> > “They single out a person who is walking alone. The victim is often
> > intoxicated,” Minkowsky said. “Or he might be small. They look for
> > someone who is not likely to fight back or present much of a challenge.”

>
> > On the first day of December, a man walking through Kennedy Park after
> > leaving a Park Street club said he was attacked by four Somali males.
> > The group came at him from behind, knocked him down and stole
> > prescription drugs and $150 in cash. That man told police it was the
> > second time he was attacked in such a fashion. The first time, he was
> > able to escape.
>
> > <http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20...>

>
> > Another typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> > On the last day of November, there were three such attacks reported in
> > Lewiston: one in the area of Central Maine Medical Center, another on
> > Bartlett Street, the third in Kennedy Park.
>
> > In another attack, a woman walking a dog in the park was set upon. The
> > assailants, a group of Somali males, beat her dog with a stick. Police
> > later tracked down one of the attackers. He was a 10-year-old boy.
>
> > In late summer, an off-duty civilian police employee was eating at a
> > local restaurant. A local boy ran to the window, screaming for help. The
> > police employee ran outside and found a group — roughly a half-dozen —

> > of Somali boys. When confronted, they ran off.
>
> > Police say they are investigating the attacks on several fronts. They
> > are using new technology and new techniques. A bigger break came in
> > recent weeks when they were approached by a group that wants to help.
>
> > “Members of the Somali community came to us,” Minkowsky says. “They set

> > up a meeting with us and came in to talk about it. They want to help us
> > combat it.”

>
> > Police Chief Michael Bussiere pointed out that the attackers do not
> > appear to involve large segments of the Somali population. It seems to
> > be a select group that has organized to carry out the attacks.
>
> > Police say group robberies are almost unheard of in Lewiston. In the
> > past, when multiple people have attacked a lone victim, two or three
> > assailants were reported and the assault was typically prompted by
> > intoxication or old rivalries.
>
> > Not so with the Somali attacks.
>
> > “We haven’t seen that it’s been fueled by alcohol or drugs,” Minkowsky

> > said. He added that robbery appears to be a primary motivation among the
> > Somali gangs. “But in some cases, they seem to do it for the thrill of it.”

>
> > Stephen Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate
> > Violence, said he was not aware of the Somali assaults in Lewiston.
> > After hearing the nature of them, he said the attacks likely were not
> > the type that involve his group. The motive appears to be robbery,
> > rather than race.
>
> > While investigating the ambush-style attacks, police have little to
> > compare them with, at least locally. A search of assaults dating back to
> > spring revealed no incidents of a similar nature involving non-Somalis.
>
> > “This is unique,” Minkowsky said.

>
> > There have been a few arrests since the attacks began. Minkowsky said
> > many of the suspects had dropped out of school. Their parents seemed to
> > have no idea that their children had become part of a roving gang.
>
> > Seeing children as young as 8 running the streets with teens closing in
> > on 20 is something police are not used to seeing. There is a lot about
> > the attacks investigators have not seen before.
>
> > That’s why it helps them enormously to have input from the Somali elders.
>
> > “It’s an interesting dynamic for us,” Minkowsky said. “We’re still on

> > the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community is
> > probably our best chance to resolve it.”

>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Hisler
> > alt.politics.immigration
> >www.globalgulag.us
>
> Work with the Elders to "resolve" it?  They make it sound like the
> Elders are like the wise man at the top of a mountain, that you have to
> climb to ask a question.  The Elders are savages just like the young
> Somalis, or they would have already taught them how much better this
> country is, and the opportunities they have, that they wouldn't have had
> in Somalia.
>

No shit, after Somalia is the pirate capital of the entire world and
a nation run by islamonazi pigs to the fullest extent of sharia law.

cornholio

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On Dec 19, 12:38 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
>   johnny@. wrote:
> > Hisler wrote:
> >> Remember Lewiston?  That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
> >> trying to crack down on "immigrants."  Now the "immigrants" are
> >> terrorizing the white community.  Diversity is our strength!
>
> >>http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-w...

>
> >> In the early evening on the first day of summer, a large group of
> >> Somali boys approached a woman on the corner of Ash and Pierce
> >> streets. According to police reports, they intimidated the woman and
> >> slapped her in the back of the head before scattering into the downtown.
>
> >> Five days later, shortly after midnight, a man was accosted by a group
> >> of Somali boys outside the Big Apple on Main Street. Police reports
> >> say several members of the group punched the man and took money from
> >> him. They then fled in a car.
>
> >> Later that night, a woman in her late 60s was beaten by a group of
> >> Somali boys and relieved of cash while walking in Kennedy Park.
>
> >> Five nights later, another man was jumped by a group of similar
> >> description. He resisted the gang and was beaten badly. He required
> >> surgery.
>
> >> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> >> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> >> Throughout the summer, similar reports have come into the Police
> >> Department. Witnesses and investigators say swarms of Somali boys,
> >> some as young as 8, others in their late teens, overwhelm solitary
> >> victims through sheer numbers.
>
> >> “It’s not gang activity in the traditional sense,” Deputy Chief James
> >> Minkowsky said. “We’re not seeing the colors or the monikers, but it’s
> >> still a gang mentality.”
>
> >> Often, these gang members carry sticks and rocks with which to
> >> intimidate their victims. There are often four or five of them,
> >> sometimes as many as a dozen. Typically, they threaten or beat their
> >> victims until they give up the goods: money, bicycles, cell phones,
> >> prescription drugs, or other items of value.
>
> >> Then they scatter.
>
> >> “By the time the call gets to us, the group has dispersed,” Minkowsky

> >> said.
>
> >> The attacks continued all summer; more than a dozen were reported to
> >> police. There were more in the fall and a series of them in recent
> >> weeks. In each attack, the victim is one who may have appeared weak to
> >> the group that descended on them.
>
> >> “They single out a person who is walking alone. The victim is often
> >> intoxicated,” Minkowsky said. “Or he might be small. They look for
> >> someone who is not likely to fight back or present much of a challenge.”

>
> >> On the first day of December, a man walking through Kennedy Park after
> >> leaving a Park Street club said he was attacked by four Somali males.
> >> The group came at him from behind, knocked him down and stole
> >> prescription drugs and $150 in cash. That man told police it was the
> >> second time he was attacked in such a fashion. The first time, he was
> >> able to escape.
>
> >> <http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20...>

>
> >> Another typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> >> On the last day of November, there were three such attacks reported in
> >> Lewiston: one in the area of Central Maine Medical Center, another on
> >> Bartlett Street, the third in Kennedy Park.
>
> >> In another attack, a woman walking a dog in the park was set upon. The
> >> assailants, a group of Somali males, beat her dog with a stick. Police
> >> later tracked down one of the attackers. He was a 10-year-old boy.
>
> >> In late summer, an off-duty civilian police employee was eating at a
> >> local restaurant. A local boy ran to the window, screaming for help.
> >> The police employee ran outside and found a group — roughly a
> >> half-dozen — of Somali boys. When confronted, they ran off.

>
> >> Police say they are investigating the attacks on several fronts. They
> >> are using new technology and new techniques. A bigger break came in
> >> recent weeks when they were approached by a group that wants to help.
>
> >> “Members of the Somali community came to us,” Minkowsky says. “They

> >> set up a meeting with us and came in to talk about it. They want to
> >> help us combat it.”

>
> >> Police Chief Michael Bussiere pointed out that the attackers do not
> >> appear to involve large segments of the Somali population. It seems to
> >> be a select group that has organized to carry out the attacks.
>
> >> Police say group robberies are almost unheard of in Lewiston. In the
> >> past, when multiple people have attacked a lone victim, two or three
> >> assailants were reported and the assault was typically prompted by
> >> intoxication or old rivalries.
>
> >> Not so with the Somali attacks.
>
> >> “We haven’t seen that it’s been fueled by alcohol or drugs,” Minkowsky

> >> said. He added that robbery appears to be a primary motivation among
> >> the Somali gangs. “But in some cases, they seem to do it for the
> >> thrill of it.”

>
> >> Stephen Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate
> >> Violence, said he was not aware of the Somali assaults in Lewiston.
> >> After hearing the nature of them, he said the attacks likely were not
> >> the type that involve his group. The motive appears to be robbery,
> >> rather than race.
>
> >> While investigating the ambush-style attacks, police have little to
> >> compare them with, at least locally. A search of assaults dating back
> >> to spring revealed no incidents of a similar nature involving
> >> non-Somalis.
>
> >> “This is unique,” Minkowsky said.

>
> >> There have been a few arrests since the attacks began. Minkowsky said
> >> many of the suspects had dropped out of school. Their parents seemed
> >> to have no idea that their children had become part of a roving gang.
>
> >> Seeing children as young as 8 running the streets with teens closing
> >> in on 20 is something police are not used to seeing. There is a lot
> >> about the attacks investigators have not seen before.
>
> >> That’s why it helps them enormously to have input from the Somali elders.
>
> >> “It’s an interesting dynamic for us,” Minkowsky said. “We’re still on

> >> the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community
> >> is probably our best chance to resolve it.”

>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> Hisler
> >> alt.politics.immigration
> >>www.globalgulag.us
>
> > Work with the Elders to "resolve" it?  They make it sound like the
> > Elders are like the wise man at the top of a mountain, that you have to
> > climb to ask a question.  The Elders are savages just like the young
> > Somalis, or they would have already taught them how much better this
> > country is, and the opportunities they have, that they wouldn't have had
> > in Somalia.
>
> > The people of this town should go armed at all times, and when attacked,
> > shoot to kill.  The attacks would stop quickly.
>
> Exactly.  Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
> veterans" in Zimbabwe.  Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?"  As the late
> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
> on the gas."

Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
for
life.

Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.

cornholio

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Considering we have a Kenyan as President, it's a pipe dream that the
above is ever going to happen.

Gunner Asch

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:52:19 -0800 (PST), cornholio
<andx...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> Exactly. �Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
>> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
>> veterans" in Zimbabwe. �Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
>> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
>> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?" �As the late
>> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
>> on the gas."
>
>Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
>for
>life.
>
>Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
>they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.

Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
though...

Gunner, So. Cal

strik...@mail.com

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:10:07 -0700, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
>
><http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20of%20Somali%20attacks>
>
>Another typicalobbery appears to be a primary motivation among the
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Hisler
>alt.politics.immigration
>www.globalgulag.us
>

The system is terminal. Makes no differance which "party" is in
control. The dual impact of an economy which will never again
dominate, and the flooding of America by third-world immigrants
assures major upheavels.

But rejoice! This system is so corrupted, polluted, and diluted,
that it's total meltdown will be a joy. Then something better.

striker
>
>

lorad

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On Dec 19, 12:10 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
> Remember Lewiston?  That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
> trying to crack down on "immigrants."  Now the "immigrants" are
> terrorizing the white community.  Diversity is our strength!
>
> http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-w...
>

> “It’s an interesting dynamic for us,” Minkowsky said. “We’re still on


> the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community is

> probably our best chance to resolve it.”
>

No.
The best way to solve the imported criminal problem is to keep the
trash criminals out of the US in the first place.

And maybe the best way to do that is for the victims to file law
suites for damages against the individuals who sponsored or assisted
the importation of those somali criminals.

strik...@mail.com

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:10:07 -0700, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
http://www.whiterevolution.com/

Read the brief statement on their homepage.
States very nicely the status of our current
form of government.

Rejoice when this corrupt, diluted, and polluted
ineffective system bellies up.

Then we build something better.

striker714

john redthorn

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shoot to kill should be the law of the land for everyone. Do not wait
for them to attack you . Just start shooting the fuckers now.
Message has been deleted

john redthorn

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no_...@void.nul wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:39:26 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:52:19 -0800 (PST), cornholio
>> <andx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Exactly. Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
>>>> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
>>>> veterans" in Zimbabwe. Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
>>>> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
>>>> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?" As the late
>>>> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
>>>> on the gas."
>>> Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
>>> for
>>> life.
>>>
>>> Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
>>> they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>
> And a white truck driver had his face smashed in because he was white!

>
>
>> Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
>> though...
>>
>> Gunner, So. Cal
>>
>>
>>
>> "First Law of Leftist Debate
>> The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
>> that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
>> more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
>> losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
>> homophobe approaches infinity.
>>
>> This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
>> race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
>> the subject." Grey Ghost
I must say it would be a whole lot better place to live without any
black people around or mexicans . Sad thing when a whole race has to be
shunned for the actions of 3/4 of them. I do not like to condemn anyone
for no good reason or say that we would be better off without them
because of others but shit where do you draw the line ?

robert bowman

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lorad wrote:

> And maybe the best way to do that is for the victims to file law
> suites for damages against the individuals who sponsored or assisted
> the importation of those somali criminals.

That would be Abdiaziz Ali and friends. They had been living near Atlanta
and were fed up with Georgia's version of African Americans and Georgia's
welfare system. They sent out scouts, and found Lewiston/Clarkston, and
Maine's very generous welfare system. Of course, there hasn't been much
work in the area since the textile mills and shoe shops closed, but who
needs work when you have welfare?


Hisler

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Thanks for the link.

jaf

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<strik...@mail.com> wrote in message news:emqqi59mnekc34rcl...@4ax.com...

"We seek a paradigm shift in our values"

So the first thing their Mission Statement says is they don't like their own values and they want new values.

I'm sure that will inspire lots and lots of followers.


John


Stormin Mormon

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I'm sure some people still contend that blacks cannot be
racist.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


<no_...@void.nul> wrote in message
news:921ri55cckjvj7rd8...@4ax.com...
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:39:26 -0800,


>Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA,
>because
>they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>

And a white truck driver had his face smashed in because he
was white!


Hisler

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charles bash wrote:
> Why aren't any of these people carrying guns?
> Maine is definitely a State with a "concealed carry" law ,, a Permit
> available to law abiding citizens.
>
> But then the story Does say the gangs pick on people who appear to be
> "weak and small".
> C. Bash

The Somali "youths" behave like any predatory animals, i.e., they seek
out the weak or wounded prey. Political correctness and diversity
training have turned whites into perfect targets for Third World savages
imported by do-gooder religious "leaders" and other enemies of America.
Political correctness and diversity celebration are like any
auto-immune disorder in that they break down the natural defense
mechanisms of the target host nation.

>
> <<< When You Have A Gun = You Have A Chance <<< ==o== NRA slogan .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:33:32 -0500, Media Madders.Lie wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:23 -0500, no_...@void.nul wrote:
>Somali Bantu Refugees Infesting Lewiston, Maine
>On a summer evening, a large pack of shitskinned Somali Bantus'
>approached a White Woman


Im curious if anyone else can tell me if the poster is biased against
people who are not white, or if its simply a matter of imagination on my
part?

Gunner

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Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:50:42 -0500, NBC.Org wrote:

>Somali pirates get help from the Somali Diaspora. Somali refugees in
>the U.S.A. offer funds, equipment and information to support their
>Clans. The heavy cost of their piracy is inevitably borne by hapless
>consumers. Liberals should learn that 'No good deed goes unpunished'.

Im still waiting for a response.

robert bowman

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Gunner Asch wrote:

> Im curious if anyone else can tell me if the poster is biased against
> people who are not white, or if its simply a matter of imagination on my
> part?

It would seem so. However, given the demographics of the Lewiston area, a
generation or two ago the poster would have been ranting about French
Canadians and Catholics.

Get lost

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By the subhumans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8107039.stm

South African rape survey shock
Anti-rape protesters in South Africa
South Africa's government has been urged to solve the rape epidemic

One in four South African men questioned in a survey said they had
raped someone, and nearly half of them admitted more than one attack.

cornholio

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On Dec 19, 3:39 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:52:19 -0800 (PST), cornholio
>
>
>
> <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Exactly.  Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
> >> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
> >> veterans" in Zimbabwe.  Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
> >> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
> >> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?"  As the late
> >> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
> >> on the gas."
>
> >Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
> >for
> >life.
>
> >Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
> >they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>
> Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
> though...
>

I doubt I could find it now, my friend showed me the article
back when it happened (I live in the abortion called Southern
California).

He and his girlfriend were also attacked the same day, they
were driving through the San Fernando Valley on the day of
the riots and stopped at a stoplight, suddenly some hispanic/latino
youths came running up to the car and threw a brick through the
back window, at which point my friend accelerated through the
red light as fast as he could.

cornholio

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On Dec 19, 3:39 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:52:19 -0800 (PST), cornholio
>
>
>
> <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Exactly.  Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
> >> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
> >> veterans" in Zimbabwe.  Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
> >> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
> >> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?"  As the late
> >> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
> >> on the gas."
>
> >Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
> >for
> >life.
>
> >Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
> >they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>
> Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
> though...
>

Amazingly enough, I found it:

Matthew Ellis Haines

TIME: 6:35 p.m. LOCATION: 1900 block of Lemon Street, Long Beach

A mob of a dozen or so African-American youth set upon Haines, a 32-
year-old white man, as he rode his motorcycle with his roommate on
back. They pulled Haines, a local motorcycle mechanic, and his friend
off the bike, robbed them and shot Haines. Ironically, Haines was on
his way to meet a black friend to help him move. Seven of his
attackers were found guilty or accepted plea agreements.

From the following source: http://www.laweekly.com/2002-05-02/news/the-l-a-53/2

It has a complete run-down of the 53 people killed in LA during the
riots. Whitey figures
prominently as a target.

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:10:04 -0800 (PST), cornholio
<andx...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 19, 3:39�pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:52:19 -0800 (PST), cornholio
>>
>>
>>
>> <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Exactly. �Going to the Somali elders is about as useful as when white
>> >> farmers pleaded with Robert Mugabi to resolve the farm invasions by "war
>> >> veterans" in Zimbabwe. �Remember that white truck driver who stopped and
>> >> got out of his truck during one of the several L.A. riots and got beaten
>> >> to within an inch of his life by a mob of Black "youths?" �As the late
>> >> comedian Bill Hicks said in a stand up routine about the beating, "Step
>> >> on the gas."
>>
>> >Reginald Denny was the truck driver in question, he is brain damaged
>> >for
>> >life.
>>
>> >Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
>> >they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>>
>> Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
>> though...
>>
>
>I doubt I could find it now, my friend showed me the article
>back when it happened (I live in the abortion called Southern
>California).

I work there...and live west of Bakersfield.

>
>He and his girlfriend were also attacked the same day, they
>were driving through the San Fernando Valley on the day of
>the riots and stopped at a stoplight, suddenly some hispanic/latino
>youths came running up to the car and threw a brick through the
>back window, at which point my friend accelerated through the
>red light as fast as he could.

I was down there at the time and missed any of that, but then..I was
leaving my 1911 on the seat beside me for a number of weeks after than.

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:19:40 -0800 (PST), cornholio
<andx...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> >Two white motorcyclists were murdered in Long Beach, CA, because
>> >they were white, during the same Rodney King riots.
>>
>> Got cites? Id not heard about that incident. It wouldnt be surprising
>> though...
>>
>
>Amazingly enough, I found it:
>
>Matthew Ellis Haines
>
>TIME: 6:35 p.m. LOCATION: 1900 block of Lemon Street, Long Beach
>
>A mob of a dozen or so African-American youth set upon Haines, a 32-
>year-old white man, as he rode his motorcycle with his roommate on
>back. They pulled Haines, a local motorcycle mechanic, and his friend
>off the bike, robbed them and shot Haines. Ironically, Haines was on
>his way to meet a black friend to help him move. Seven of his
>attackers were found guilty or accepted plea agreements.
>
>From the following source: http://www.laweekly.com/2002-05-02/news/the-l-a-53/2
>
>It has a complete run-down of the 53 people killed in LA during the
>riots. Whitey figures
>prominently as a target.


Many thanks.

From the cites..it appears that more Blacks and Latinos died.

Of course, its been blacks vrs latinos for many years..cultural genocide
against blacks is currently ongoing.

Im curious as to how the next summer is going to work out in LA..as
unemployment will be very very high and latinos will be desperate for
money..IE no one will be hiring wetbacks in the coming years. And of
course..blacks will also be desperate as welfare will be cut back quite
a bit.......

We are living in interesting times..and they will become even more
"interesting" as time goes on.

Gunner

cornholio

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Yep, it's going to get really ugly.

I heard from a Los Angeles Sheriff that "downing statistics" has
become the norm for his dept. Apparently, trying to minimize the
number and type of crimes reported has become an issue in his
department.

I've noticed the FBI has become rather good at concealing crime
statistics as well.

Gunner, is it true that Governor Arnie will arbitrarily increase the
with-holding tax
in California to 10% -- regardless of tax bracket etc.?

Gunner Asch

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Thats the story...or one of them.

The bastards in Sacto are so fucked up at the moment...well..ok...since
the past 40 yrs and way into the foreseeable future....that they dont
have a clue what to do..except raise taxes and keep raising
entitlements. 70 new state agencies have been formed in the past 2
yrs...lots of people working for the State of California. Im thinking
about turning in my application too. Shrug...they are the only people
who MIGHT survive the coming Great Depression Part Deux....

Of course you are aware that the highest paid law enforcement in the
US..are California Prison Guards..right? Big assed union.....

Gunner

cornholio

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I wouldn't be surprised. After all, of all G-5 nations (excluding
China)
the US has not only the largest prison population, but the fastest
growing.

I wonder what percentage of our state and national tax dollars goes to
support our huge prison population? I can only guess that the cost
must
run into the billions.

john redthorn

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Hisler wrote:
> Remember Lewiston? That was the city the ACLU sued and bankrupted for
> trying to crack down on "immigrants." Now the "immigrants" are
> terrorizing the white community. Diversity is our strength!
>
> http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/somali-youths-are-randomly-attacking-white-people-in-lewiston-maine/
>
>
> In the early evening on the first day of summer, a large group of Somali
> boys approached a woman on the corner of Ash and Pierce streets.
> According to police reports, they intimidated the woman and slapped her
> in the back of the head before scattering into the downtown.
>
> Five days later, shortly after midnight, a man was accosted by a group
> of Somali boys outside the Big Apple on Main Street. Police reports say
> several members of the group punched the man and took money from him.
> They then fled in a car.
>
> Later that night, a woman in her late 60s was beaten by a group of
> Somali boys and relieved of cash while walking in Kennedy Park.
>
> Five nights later, another man was jumped by a group of similar
> description. He resisted the gang and was beaten badly. He required
> surgery.
>
> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> A typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> Throughout the summer, similar reports have come into the Police
> Department. Witnesses and investigators say swarms of Somali boys, some
> as young as 8, others in their late teens, overwhelm solitary victims
> through sheer numbers.
>
> �It�s not gang activity in the traditional sense,� Deputy Chief James
> Minkowsky said. �We�re not seeing the colors or the monikers, but it�s
> still a gang mentality.�
>
> Often, these gang members carry sticks and rocks with which to
> intimidate their victims. There are often four or five of them,
> sometimes as many as a dozen. Typically, they threaten or beat their
> victims until they give up the goods: money, bicycles, cell phones,
> prescription drugs, or other items of value.
>
> Then they scatter.
>
> �By the time the call gets to us, the group has dispersed,� Minkowsky said.

>
> The attacks continued all summer; more than a dozen were reported to
> police. There were more in the fall and a series of them in recent
> weeks. In each attack, the victim is one who may have appeared weak to
> the group that descended on them.
>
> �They single out a person who is walking alone. The victim is often
> intoxicated,� Minkowsky said. �Or he might be small. They look for
> someone who is not likely to fight back or present much of a challenge.�

>
> On the first day of December, a man walking through Kennedy Park after
> leaving a Park Street club said he was attacked by four Somali males.
> The group came at him from behind, knocked him down and stole
> prescription drugs and $150 in cash. That man told police it was the
> second time he was attacked in such a fashion. The first time, he was
> able to escape.
>
> <http://www.eutimes.net/wp-admin/Another%20typical%20white%20victim%20of%20Somali%20attacks>
>
>
> Another typical white victim of Somali attacks
>
> On the last day of November, there were three such attacks reported in
> Lewiston: one in the area of Central Maine Medical Center, another on
> Bartlett Street, the third in Kennedy Park.
>
> In another attack, a woman walking a dog in the park was set upon. The
> assailants, a group of Somali males, beat her dog with a stick. Police
> later tracked down one of the attackers. He was a 10-year-old boy.
>
> In late summer, an off-duty civilian police employee was eating at a
> local restaurant. A local boy ran to the window, screaming for help. The
> police employee ran outside and found a group � roughly a half-dozen �
> of Somali boys. When confronted, they ran off.
>
> Police say they are investigating the attacks on several fronts. They
> are using new technology and new techniques. A bigger break came in
> recent weeks when they were approached by a group that wants to help.
>
> �Members of the Somali community came to us,� Minkowsky says. �They set
> up a meeting with us and came in to talk about it. They want to help us
> combat it.�

>
> Police Chief Michael Bussiere pointed out that the attackers do not
> appear to involve large segments of the Somali population. It seems to
> be a select group that has organized to carry out the attacks.
>
> Police say group robberies are almost unheard of in Lewiston. In the
> past, when multiple people have attacked a lone victim, two or three
> assailants were reported and the assault was typically prompted by
> intoxication or old rivalries.
>
> Not so with the Somali attacks.
>
> �We haven�t seen that it�s been fueled by alcohol or drugs,� Minkowsky
> said. He added that robbery appears to be a primary motivation among the
> Somali gangs. �But in some cases, they seem to do it for the thrill of it.�

>
> Stephen Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate
> Violence, said he was not aware of the Somali assaults in Lewiston.
> After hearing the nature of them, he said the attacks likely were not
> the type that involve his group. The motive appears to be robbery,
> rather than race.
>
> While investigating the ambush-style attacks, police have little to
> compare them with, at least locally. A search of assaults dating back to
> spring revealed no incidents of a similar nature involving non-Somalis.
>
> �This is unique,� Minkowsky said.

>
> There have been a few arrests since the attacks began. Minkowsky said
> many of the suspects had dropped out of school. Their parents seemed to
> have no idea that their children had become part of a roving gang.
>
> Seeing children as young as 8 running the streets with teens closing in
> on 20 is something police are not used to seeing. There is a lot about
> the attacks investigators have not seen before.
>
> That�s why it helps them enormously to have input from the Somali elders.
>
> �It�s an interesting dynamic for us,� Minkowsky said. �We�re still on
> the learning curve with this. Getting help from the Somali community is
> probably our best chance to resolve it.�
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hisler
> alt.politics.immigration
> www.globalgulag.us
>
>
>
>
that is why America should have stayed red and white . we would not have
this shit going on . third world trash. Just like most people from third
world countries .

john redthorn

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perhaps it could use a little less descriptive terms but it does not
change the facts.
The problem with all this racism stuff is that if a person is telling
the truth about the situation then their racism does not matter in the
context of the story. People tend to just dismiss things because of the
person doing the narrating. Drop the descriptive words and then there is
a whole new understanding of the story .

john redthorn

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Dec 26, 2009, 7:41:19 PM12/26/09
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does not surprise me that they would not put it out all over the news.
It is the same liberal " Let them do as they please because they used to
be slaves " attitude that makes them act like they do to begin with.

john redthorn

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obama lied to them on welfare. They all thought they were going to get a
windfall. They will soon learn the harsh truth.
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