Converting CadVance drawing to AutoCAD
Bill
We are in the process migrating from Cadvance to AutoCAD2000.
One of the biggest tasks is preserve the legacy drawings by converting
the VWF format to DWG.
We have more than 400 drawings in active projects.
Is there a way to conduct this conversion in bulk?
We invite all you experts, power users, consultants to contact us if
you could write some macros to automatically load all drawings in
designated directories, and convert them to dwg without much user
interface.
Or, maybe you could suggest other alternative
Thanks
Ming Chan
MC...@StainlessInc.com
Kenneth Etter
Sorry to see you leaving Cadvance, but I'll offer some suggestions
anyways. Depending upon the version of Cadvance you are using.....
Cadvance does have a batch translator. This will translate an entire
directory in a single step. Use the command: Utility, Translate DWG.
Cadvance 99 has some extra features that might prove helpful. When saving
to DWG you have 2 options: 1) save your drawing and all attached
reference files to a single DWG, or 2) save your drawing and all attached
reference files to separate DWG files - this step does maintain the
reference information so if you load your active DWG into AutoCad, it will
automatically load the reference files.
Hope this helps,
Ken Etter
Alexander Medwedew
don't have this version then upgrading is your best bet for translating
your drawings. A macro would only invoke the bulk translator.
--
Alexander Medwedew
Computer Ventures, Inc.
http://idt.net/~compvent/
Bill <B...@stainlessinc.com> wrote in article
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F I T, Inc.
Would you be so kind as to provide us with your registration numbers for
your CADVANCE copies you speak of. And would you please tell us how many
copies of CADVANCE your company owns.
From our point of view, we wish to curb the illegal copying of our
software -- and so we are interested at such times a user claims to have a
certain number of multiple copies.
You can reach us at:
F I T, Inc.
(800) 956-3171
(714) 956-3170 fax
cadv...@fitinc.com
We welcome your call, and we've provided our *800 number above. Please
understand our concern when a licensing issue arises. Thank you.
Regards,
Administration
Furukawa Information Technology, Inc.
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F I T, Inc.
Paul Turvill
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John Kirby
>Where does he say anything about having "multiple copies" of anything?
Perhaps the reasoning is as follows:
The package is so unproductive that nobody has managed to
do 400 drawings with a single copy of it since it was first released.
The user must therefore be using multiple copies.
Other possibilities exist too:
The company does not need to have any copies of the software
at all if they have subcontracted the drawing office task to
another party. They could be converting to Autocad to bring
the drawings in house.
This does appear to be a case of assuming people are using pirate
copies with absolutely nothing to support that view. This sort of
overt harassment does give a good idea of the sort of company
that you will be dealing with if you considering buying a (licensed)
copy of their software.
John
F I T, Inc.
Please excuse us for sounding harsh. Our intent was merely to ask the
person how many copies are registered, and the registration numbers.
Although we are concerned about our software being pirated, we did not
intend to imply (to that person or anyone else) that the person is using
illegal copies of our software.
Regards,
Adminstration, F I T, Inc.
F I T, Inc.
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Ken Duckworth
libel out of it
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CW
When you see someone that has a new car, do you go up and ask them for their
registration to prove that they did not steal it? You say "we did not
intend to imply that the person is using illegal copies of our software" but
that was exactly what you were implying by asking him to prove otherwise.
CW
KC7NOD
F I T, Inc. <cadv...@fitinc.com> wrote in message
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> Please excuse us for sounding harsh. Our intent was merely to ask the
> person how many copies are registered, and the registration numbers.
> Although we are concerned about our software being pirated, we did not
> intend to imply (to that person or anyone else) that the person is using
> illegal copies of our software.
>
> Regards,
> Adminstration, F I T, Inc.
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Paul Turvill
the kind of outfit I'll ever do business with.
Can you imagine Microsoft -- or even Autodesk -- demanding a serial
number or other "proof of purchase" in a public NG when someone asks for
assistance? Ridiculous.
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Bill
We had 3 copies of Cadvance 3.5, which was purchased 1990-1991.
Despite its low performance, we kind of managed to produce around 400
drawings in almost 10 years. We did upgrade to 5.x. The software was
so terrible that even our strongest Cadvance supporter refused to
learn it. Since then, it lost all credibility with us. We never
upgraded.
The worst part of using Cadvance is very few drafters even heard of
it. Despite Cadvance's significantly lower initial cost than AutoCAD,
we found that training and support costs are extremely high (even when
they were available). All younger drafters are already proficient in
AutoCAD. Most of them have no desire spending (wasting) time learning
something that few other people use.
We are a bigger company now. In addition to our older folks still
using Cadvance, we have 18 seats of AutoCAD, which has been our major
production tools. With the way it is going, those die-hard Cadvance
finally sentence Cadvance to death in our firm. The have moved on to
AutoCAD2000.
Even though there is no legal requirement, we will be happy to provide
our registration number if you can prove you are in the position to
ask. Since we did not purchase our Cadvance3.5/5 from FIT. You would
have to prove that you are indeed the owner of the software.
Please produce ALL ORIGINAL LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU OWN THE RIGHT OF
CADVANCE, THE MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAMES OF ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES, THE PIN
NUMBER OF YOUR CREDIT CARDS AND POST IT IN THE GROUP. We will then
post our license numbers here.
Thank you for your concern. For those who have horror story of a bad
experience with Cadvance and successfully got out of it, we invite you
to post it here. That way we all can learn from you.
Ming Chan
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:55:27 -0700, "F I T, Inc."
<cadv...@fitinc.com> wrote:
>Dear Ming,
>
> Would you be so kind as to provide us with your registration numbers for
>your CADVANCE copies you speak of. And would you please tell us how many
>copies of CADVANCE your company owns.
> From our point of view, we wish to curb the illegal copying of our
>software -- and so we are interested at such times a user claims to have a
>certain number of multiple copies.
>
Bill
Bill
Alexander Medwedew
public forum. Registration information does get lost. FIT is showing its
paranoia and so have many others. FIT hasn't done what representatives of
other CAD companies who have gone as far as putting bounties on the heads
of companies that are using their pirated software. In N.Y.C I have seen
ads in the local papers offering as much as a $1000.00 for this type of
information.
They have been burned in the past by users using many more copies than were
purchased. The older DOS versions of Cadvance were protected using a
security device the Windows versions do not. CALCOMP and ISICAD former
corporate owners were very good at making copy protection work.
Unfortunately this has caused the market to buy from those not using such
copy protections.
Alexander Medwedew
http://visual-engineering.com/
Paul Turvill <n...@spam.me> wrote in article
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David Hansen
Maybe Microsoft *grin*
-Dave B^{D>
Paul Turvill <n...@spam.me> wrote in message
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> Can you imagine Microsoft -- or even Autodesk -- demanding a serial
> number or other "proof of purchase" in a public NG when someone asks for
> assistance? Ridiculous.
<snip>
Kenneth Etter
Considering you are back at version 5, you may want to consider picking up
a copy of Cadvance 99 Lite ( I think its in the $500 range). You could use
it to batch convert your drawings with fairly minimal user intervention.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Version 3.5 is somewhat dated (as is
v5). Actually version 5 was not a good release (like every other Autocad
release <g> ). I tested 5 but ended up upgrading from version 4 to version
6. I don't know why you mention "low performance". Cadvance has always
provided us with better performance than Autocad. New employees at our
firm generally have Autocad experience....most find learning Cadvance to be
a fairly easy task. And most find they like it better than Autocad. Of
course some of this may depend upon the type of work being done...we are an
Architectural/Engineering firm.
Considering the age of the versions you have.....probably explains why FIT
has no record of you. They took over ownership after v6 release (I think).
Back to your original question.....the only VWF to DWG translator I am
aware of is the one within Cadvance. This means paying someone who owns a
copy of Cadvance to do the translating for you or doing it yourself. The
batch translator was added in version 6 or 7 - so you may want to just get
a copy of Cadvance Lite. Probably the easiest method to get the results
you want.
Ken Etter
F I T, Inc.
Greetings to Ming Chan, Paul Turvill, Ken Duckworth, John Kirby, CW, and
everyone else.
We would like to publicly retract our statements that may have been
misconstrued
as implying illegal use of software, and to offer our sincere apologies
regarding all inappropriate comments made here on this newsgroup. Although
every software company is concerned about illegal software use, we did not
and
do not have any right or business to imply illegal use to anyone. That was
not
our intention when that general blanket-statement was posted. It was our
intent
to only update our incomplete database records on this particular company
and
did not intend for any negative inferences to be implied. Again, we would
like
to offer our sincere apologies.
I invite anyone wishing to further comment on this matter to please feel
free to
contact us directly at cadv...@fitinc.com, or at (800) 931-3171, or at
(714)
956-3171.
Sincerely,
Shari Hokama
Manager, Sales/Marketing
Furukawa Information Technology, Inc.
F I T, Inc.
F I T, Inc.
Siegfried Liuchan
Don't tell me it took 10 years for you to find out you've got a piece
of crap.
There's a sucker born everyday. You are the biggest one I've ever
seen.
From the response of the vendor. These jokers are hardly
"professinals". Glad you finally wake up.
They are really flattering themselves. Is such crap worthy of
pirating? Especially, real CAD packages (such as AutoCAD) can be
pirated just as easily (don't get me wrong. I'm not promoting such
action). How desparate do you have to be to use CADVANCE.
yuk!
Siegfried
Bill
part of fun.
Many thanks to those who indeed gave us very useful tips to proceed
with our migration plan.
Ming Chan
MC...@StainlessInc.com
Bill
Bill
Alexander Medwedew
see the many users who are happy with Cadvance.