IntelliCAD 2000 for free
cad...@my-deja.com
downloading only at http://www.cadopia.com. This
is a *free* end user product as long as you do not
resell it. There is no free technical support for
this product. There is no paid technical support
for the product at this time either. Do not
forget to read the FAQs page to see if IntelliCAD
2000 by CADopia meets your particular needs.
Based on our extensive experience with the CAD
industry, it will meet the needs of most price and
quality conscious CAD users, but you be the judge.
Spread the word if you like IntelliCAD 2000 by
CADopia. Enjoy!
Webmaster
CADopia.com
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Before you buy.
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http://www.cadopia.com. This is a **free** end user product. There is
no free technical support for this product. There is no paid technical
support for the product at this time either. Do not forget to read the
FAQs page to see if IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia meets your particular
experience in the CAD industry, we feel that it will meet the needs of
most price and quality conscious CAD users, but you be the judge. Spread
the word if you like IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia. Enjoy!
CADopia.com team
r...@my-deja.com
So far so good. Everything works as promised.
If you have IntelliCAD 98, copy render.dll to the IntelliCAD 2000
directory and voila, rendering is in I2K. Spell check worked with no
changes and I think plotting will work also (but I haven't tried).
Thanks for the free CAD. What's next for CADopia?
RQD
In article <7tru8n$838$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
cad...@my-deja.com wrote:
> IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia is ready for free
> downloading only at http://www.cadopia.com. This
> is a *free* end user product as long as you do not
> resell it. There is no free technical support for
> this product. There is no paid technical support
> for the product at this time either. Do not
> forget to read the FAQs page to see if IntelliCAD
> 2000 by CADopia meets your particular needs.
> Based on our extensive experience with the CAD
> industry, it will meet the needs of most price and
> quality conscious CAD users, but you be the judge.
> Spread the word if you like IntelliCAD 2000 by
> CADopia. Enjoy!
>
> Webmaster
> CADopia.com
Thom Vetter
nds...@my-deja.com
1/There seems to be no access to help.
2/I was under the impression that Icad2000 would
support Acad2000 files but there is no option to
save past ver14.
Anyway I'm grateful for the free generic version
which is just what I need at the moment.
ronp...@my-deja.com
with IntelliCAD 98 only and may not be used with
any other software including IntelliCAD 2000.
They were licensed by Visio for distribution with
Visio products only and IntelliCAD is no longer a
Visio product. The IntelliCAD Technology
Consortium is currently working with the owners
of the licensed components to provide a package
that can be made available to users. When this
becomes available you will find information on it
at www.intellicad.org. I apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause as we wish for users
to begin using IntelliCAD 2000 as soon as
possible.
Ron Prepchuk
Executive Director
IntelliCAD Technology Consortium
In article <7tu51o$s5n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
r...@my-deja.com wrote:
> It certainly fits the needs of the price
conscious user.
>
> So far so good. Everything works as promised.
>
> If you have IntelliCAD 98, copy render.dll to
the IntelliCAD 2000
> directory and voila, rendering is in I2K.
Spell check worked with no
> changes and I think plotting will work also
(but I haven't tried).
>
> Thanks for the free CAD. What's next for
CADopia?
>
> RQD
>
ronp...@my-deja.com
r...@my-deja.com
If I buy a program, say a LISP routine, that was written to work with
AutoCAD, can I use it with IntelliCAD? That was the whole idea, wasn't
it?
I looked at my IntelliCAD 98 license and I cannot find the part that
says "Render.dll can only be used with IntelliCAD 98". Please post the
details of the document from which you got your information.
RQD
In article <7u0kcd$mfn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Robert
>IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia is ready for downloading for at
>http://www.cadopia.com. This is a **free** end user product. There is
>no free technical support for this product. There is no paid technical
>support for the product at this time either. Do not forget to read the
>FAQs page to see if IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia meets your particular
>needs since it is a base level product. Based on our extensive
>experience in the CAD industry, we feel that it will meet the needs of
>most price and quality conscious CAD users, but you be the judge. Spread
>the word if you like IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia. Enjoy!
>
>CADopia.com team
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
While I had some difficulty down loading, ISP keep dropping
connection, once download it installed without a problem.
Great job.
Help does not work, however.
Robert
Svein Erik Sjovoll
>says "Render.dll can only be used with IntelliCAD 98". Please post the
>details of the document from which you got your information.
You have a point here. When someone tells you what to do or not to do,
it is often relevant to ask "Says who?".
Mr. Prepchuk says the dll was licenced by Visio to be included in
Intellicad 98 only, and that is probably correct. But does that mean
that you can't use the dll as you wish when you have bought an
Intellicad license? I think not. Visio has licensed the dll for
Intellicad 98 only, but that's not your problem.
- Svein Erik Sjøvoll, Novacon AS
- Postboks 25, N-9446 Grovfjord, Norway
- tel & fax: (+47) 77 08 81 80
- Psjo...@Ponline.no
- (please remove all capital letters from email address above)
ronp...@my-deja.com
which may not be "copied", "redistributed", "nor may You create
derivative works". It may not seem like it but IntelliCAD 2000 is a
completely different and separate product from IntelliCAD 98. Visio
licensed these products for use with IntelliCAD 98 and you in turn
licensed them from Visio. The IntelliCAD Technology Consortium has no
license to use these products independently and neither do you. The
License Agreement covers all copying of the files and when you use them
with other products you are actually violating the owners copyright. I
know this sounds a little harsh but I hope you can appreciate that the
creators of these .dlls invested a great deal of time and energy and
need to be remunerated for their efforts. I hope that when an end-user
license becomes available for these components that you will purchase a
license for each one that you use. In that way the developers will be
encouraged to continue to develop their products and support IntelliCAD
and you will wind up with a better product.
Thank you,
Ron Prepchuk
Executive Director
IntelliCAD Technology Consortium
In article <7u136u$jd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
r...@my-deja.com wrote:
> You bring up some interesting points in your post.
>
> If I buy a program, say a LISP routine, that was written to work with
> AutoCAD, can I use it with IntelliCAD? That was the whole idea,
wasn't
> it?
>
> I looked at my IntelliCAD 98 license and I cannot find the part that
> says "Render.dll can only be used with IntelliCAD 98". Please post
the
> details of the document from which you got your information.
>
> > > cad...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > > IntelliCAD 2000 by CADopia is ready for free
> > > > downloading only at http://www.cadopia.com. This
> > > > is a *free* end user product as long as you do not
> > > > resell it. There is no free technical support for
> > > > this product. There is no paid technical support
> > > > for the product at this time either. Do not
> > > > forget to read the FAQs page to see if IntelliCAD
> > > > 2000 by CADopia meets your particular needs.
> > > > Based on our extensive experience with the CAD
> > > > industry, it will meet the needs of most price and
> > > > quality conscious CAD users, but you be the judge.
> > > > Spread the word if you like IntelliCAD 2000 by
> > > > CADopia. Enjoy!
> > > >
> > > > Webmaster
> > > > CADopia.com
d...@openlink.org
I've installed Icad2k and everything seems to work.
Something did seem a bit odd. I have Icad98 installed and 2000 seemed
to copy how I have 98 set up, right down to the custom toolbar.
Strange.
2000 was supposed to be able to handle Acad 2000 files. Is that read
only? When I came to save in 2000 there was no save as 2000 file type.
Just think. About 4 months ago I paid 250 UK pounds for Icad98!
>So far so good. Everything works as promised.
>
>If you have IntelliCAD 98, copy render.dll to the IntelliCAD 2000
>directory and voila, rendering is in I2K. Spell check worked with no
David <d...@openlink.org> *UK*
"Is it safe?"
r...@my-deja.com
render.dll.
Now I'll recompile IntelliCAD and have it look for files in other
directories, for instance, the IntelliCAD 98 install directory.
That should keep everyone happy...no copied files, redistributed files
or derivitive works made from the .dlls and I get to render my DWGs and
check spelling.
Thanks for clearing it up.
RQD
In article <7u2ut1$d51$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > > > So far so good. Everything works as promised.
> > > >
> > > > If you have IntelliCAD 98, copy render.dll to the IntelliCAD
2000
> > > > directory and voila, rendering is in I2K. Spell check worked
with
> > no
Steve
password.
Like others have said - it brought in all of my Icad98 customization,
and I do not know why since I installed in a different directory. I have tried of few
sample plots - seems ok.
I seem to be able to open an A2K drawing, but not save as A2K. Is this the way it
is designed to work?
It doesn't seem much different than Icad98 Release 'E'. Is there a list of new
features somewhere? I still do not have help working yet, I have an older version
of HH.exe.
All of the lisps I installed in Icad98 seem to work. I even tried loading the R14
bonus tools - and they seemed to work fine.
Steve
D. F. Julien, AIA
I've paid for that rendering capability with Intellicad 98 and it's
immaterial where the file comes from that utilizes it. That rendering
capability is not a copy. It It is surely not a redistribution. And what
is the name of the "derivative work," and where can I find it on my
computer?
My Intellicad 98 license does not expire because you brought out Intellicad
2000, or because I have that version as well.
It seems to me that if anyone is breaking the law, it's the ITC. Imagine
distributing free Source Code that calls a proprietary rendering DLL! Some
people have no shame...
Thanks for your hard work.
-Doug Julien AIA
ronp...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7u2ut1$d51$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
ronp...@my-deja.com
and uses them if they are there. It is up to the user to make sure
they have the necessary licenses to use the components. I would ask
you, where is the license that allows you to use the components such as
render.dll with any software other than IntelliCAD 98? The license you
have prohibits derivative works or disassembly of the software. The
ITC web site also states that you must obtain licenses for the
components at http://www.intellicad.org/faq/index.htm:
"Is it true that end users will not get IntelliCAD for free?
End users can get the source code for free. However, there are costs
associated with dealing with that source code: purchasing a compiler
and compiling the code; licensing relevant components such as VBA;
developing documentation and support for company-wide use; and so on.
For all of these reasons it makes sense that many users will prefer to
purchase a shrink wrapped version. A number of members plan to sell
shrink-wrapped versions of IntelliCAD that include the licensed
components, an installation routine, printed documentation and support."
Ronald Prepchuk
Executive Director
IntelliCAD Technology Consortium
In article <SBwN3.80$KV4.7...@news1.i1.net>,
r...@my-deja.com
My license to use render.dll with I2K came with IntelliCAD 98. There
is nothing in that license to prevent me from using it with any version
of IntelliCAD. That license protects the owners of the IP (render.dll,
etc.) from people copying and redistributing to others (reselling) as
well as from people using their IP as a basis for new works.
The license was not written with the assumption that render.dll or any
other component would be usable without modification with a future
version of IntelliCAD (especially one from a not-quite-open-source
entity) and doesn't protect from that use.
We also do not agree on the interpretation of derivative works. There
is nothing derivative about using a file that I have paid for. Now, if
I used that .DLL as the basis to create a new .DLL, that would be a
derivative work.
One of the concepts behind IntelliCAD is to use existing programs
without modification. I'd like to hear how you can defend that feature
while at the same time saying render.dll cannot be used by I2K users.
If I licensed a LISP file for use with AutoCAD and I use IntelliCAD to
execute the LISP routine, am I in violation of the license? (Assume the
license is the same) Of course not. That was a huge selling feature
of IntelliCAD 98 and Visio/Microsoft would have a potential liability
to sort out.
RQD
In article <7ugc2l$a7k$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Paul Roberts
the poor buggers that bought Intellicad in the first place. We put our
trust in Viso and their "long term" commitment to the product. If we choose
to use part of the program, instead of all of it, to get our selves out the
thick and smelly created by this mess I feel no guilt whatsoever.
If you want us to buy an IntelliCAD product make one that works. Don't try
and flog us our own watch.
Kind Regards
Paul Roberts
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