DRAFTMASTER manual wanted
Cass
I am looking for a manual on an HP Draftmaster One (7595A) manual.
I would also like some pens and supplies for it.
Thank you.
Cass
Bob Wilson
>
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a manual on an HP Draftmaster One (7595A) manual.
>I would also like some pens and supplies for it.
Ummm... how about contacting HP?
Bob.
Cass
Cass
Do you have a manual or are you just singing or humming to us?
Cass
"Bob Wilson" <rfwi...@intergate.nospam.bc.ca> wrote in message
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Dave Plumpe
paper:
http://www.reprint-draphix.com/
Good prices & shipping. The paper catalog is better organized & more
complete than the web one, but web offers lower prices.
-Dave
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Cass <casseg...@galaxycorp.com> wrote in message
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M.C. Maguire
they gouge you on prices and will not respond when you ask for pages
that copied poorly to be replaced:
mm
M.C. Maguire
they gouge you on prices and will not respond when you ask for pages
that copied poorly to be replaced:
mm
Cass
I went to the site that you suggested and you're right, they seem to be a
good place.
Thanks for the tip.
Cass
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Cass
I sent a request for a price for a manual.
I will see how bad they want to gouge me.
There have to be thousands of them in bookshelves somewhere still remaining
after the plotters have been melted down for scrap.
Cass
"M.C. Maguire" <nomcmag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tom Bruhns
> Thanks, Mac.
>
> I sent a request for a price for a manual.
>
> I will see how bad they want to gouge me.
>
> There have to be thousands of them in bookshelves somewhere still remaining
> after the plotters have been melted down for scrap.
>
> Cass
not reply to it? I'm asking in part because I'm suspicious that my
email may not always go out properly, but also because I can likely
get a set of manuals to you at less cost than a commercial place. You
didn't say: did you want the User's Guide, Programmer's Reference, or
Service manual? What kind of pens are you looking for, fiber or
drafting? Disposable drafting or refillable?
My usual problem at work is that the instruments and equipment is
readily available, but the manuals are nowhere to be found. I suspect
they get tossed often long before the equipment goes.
Cheers,
Tom
John Woodgate
(in <3200347.02030...@posting.google.com>) about 'DRAFTMASTER
manual wanted', on Fri, 1 Mar 2002:
>My usual problem at work is that the instruments and equipment is
>readily available, but the manuals are nowhere to be found. I suspect
>they get tossed often long before the equipment goes.
This is what happens if they are in the manager's office instead of with
the users of the instruments. When a manager leaves, his files are
cleared and stuff may be trashed either maliciously or inadvertently
through ignorance. The instrument users guard the manuals with their
lives (well, almost).
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[snip]
> My usual problem at work is that the instruments and equipment is
> readily available, but the manuals are nowhere to be found. I suspect
> they get tossed often long before the equipment goes.
Tom;
Just wondering if you would have had experience with an
HP 7596A 8-pen plotter.
I had one given to me some time ago but no instructions were
supplied as to how to use it.
(ie - which of the three ports (on the plotter) to connect a printer cable to,
-what sort of cable is needed (ie serial, parallel, other ? and
-where to plug in the other end onto the PC. )
If you could find a moment to respond (or point me somewhere for help)
an age-old mystery would be solved and a big hunk of ancient office
equipment will be given a useful life.
Tom Bruhns
> I read in sci.electronics.design that Tom Bruhns <k7...@aol.com> wrote
> (in <3200347.02030...@posting.google.com>) about 'DRAFTMASTER
> manual wanted', on Fri, 1 Mar 2002:
>
> >My usual problem at work is that the instruments and equipment is
> >readily available, but the manuals are nowhere to be found. I suspect
> >they get tossed often long before the equipment goes.
>
> This is what happens if they are in the manager's office instead of with
> the users of the instruments. When a manager leaves, his files are
> cleared and stuff may be trashed either maliciously or inadvertently
> through ignorance. The instrument users guard the manuals with their
> lives (well, almost).
Perhaps it's because we're the ones that make the instruments, but it
seems like the users where I work are just as bad about tossing
manuals as the managers. When someone does some cubicle-cleaning,
they'll often put manuals out for others to grab, but if nobody takes
them, into the trash they go. Before long, there simply aren't any
manuals around for some piece of equipment that many of us have but
that we no longer build, and of course at that point the manuals have
become hard to get. I generally hang onto the manuals, but I seem to
be in a minority.
Cheers,
Tom
Cass
Sorry but I don't think I got your email. I just now looked again and
didn't see it.
I would be interested in any/all manuals if cheap because I am cheap.
As far as the pens go, I really don't know what pens would be best for my
intentions. I have seen listed fiber, roller-ball and adapters. I just
don't yet know enough to make a choice.
I will be using the plotter to make schematics or circuit diagrams for
electronic designs. At some point, I may try doing a plot of the printed
circuit board on transparent film. However, I think a laser printer may be
better for that as I am not sure that the plotters line density would be
great enough for photographic exposure.
Thanks es 73
"Tom Bruhns" <k7...@aol.com> wrote in message
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John Woodgate
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about 'DRAFTMASTER manual wanted', on Sat, 2 Mar 2002:
>However, I think a laser printer may be
>better for that as I am not sure that the plotters line density would be
>great enough for photographic exposure.
A laser printer or photocopier is unlikely to make a dense enough
drawing. Ink-jet printing or plotting *with the right sort of pen* are
better solutions.
John Woodgate
(in <3200347.02030...@posting.google.com>) about 'DRAFTMASTER
>Perhaps it's because we're the ones that make the instruments, but it
>seems like the users where I work are just as bad about tossing
>manuals as the managers.
I agree, but there are far fewer of you (you hope!) making the
instruments than there are people using them!
Jim Patrick
>A laser printer or photocopier is unlikely to make a dense enough
>drawing. Ink-jet printing or plotting *with the right sort of pen* are
>better solutions.
Not true. Lasers can do a very nice job. There's a special transfer film
--much like overhead projector transparency film-- that you can use in
laser printers or copiers. Once printed, you iron the film onto PCB
material, then peel off to leave etch-resistant tracks.
The advantage of laser printers is they can print a .003 (or thinner) line,
which a pen plotter can't reliably duplicate without special alteration.
Pen plotting must go thru the photo process to make the resist. Normal
pens are hard enough to get anymore, much less dealing with 'special' pens.
Cass
I have used a laser printer before and it works beautifully. Why I don't
use it for the schematic is that it is too small of a format to be
readable/useful on large designs.
What is the 'right sort of pen' for plotters to do the photographic work?
Someone told me that I could even use conductive ink and make printed
circuit boards that way but I wouldn't know what to use as the substrate.
Oh, I use very small traces and close together, too.
Cass
"John Woodgate" <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Cass
I use the laser printer to output the circuit board photography directly on
Mylar transparency material and then expose that rather than use iron-on. I
have never had much luck with doing it with iron-on. Perhaps, I didn't know
enough to do it or was using wrong toner or transparency.
Using a laser printer and examining the traces through a loop and light
table, they are very, very good. Professional-looking, even.
Cass
"Jim Patrick" <jpat...@shentel.net> wrote in message
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Tom Bruhns
I'll resend the email. If you don't get it by the time you see this,
try emailing to me. I won't let my lone set of manuals out of my
control, but I think the photocopying charge won't be too bad, if you
can settle for photo copies. The service manual is fairly large...I'd
suggest we don't worry about that one for now. Fiber pens are
undoubtedly easiest to work with--well, rollerball pens are OK too.
Drafting pens are a bit expensive for routine plotting work. They are
typically what you'd use for vellum or matte mylar originals that you
were going to blueprint copies of, for archetectural work for example.
Cheers,
Tom
"Cass" <casseg...@galaxycorp.com> wrote in message news:<a5r8k1$qnr$0...@dosa.alt.net>...
> Hi Tom,
>
> Sorry but I don't think I got your email. I just now looked again and
> didn't see it.
...
Tom Bruhns
The basic idea is that you send it an HP-GL file. What sort of labels
are on the ports? I would expect two serial ports, so it could be
used (back in the old days) between a terminal and a modem, and it
could intercept escape sequences and intercept a file to plot as a
result. You should be able to figure out which port you can just send
to. I suspect there are also some switches to set operating mode. It
is rather unlikely that we still have any manuals for that plotter at
work...we don't use pen plotters now, just the inkjet ones.
Anyway, you should be able to connect it to a standard serial port on
a PC, and then just copy the file in binary mode to the appropriate
port. You may have to "play" with it a little to get things working.
Or...very likely someone lurking here will have a manual and can give
you some better guidance! I'll look for a manual, but don't have much
hope of finding one, and it won't be for two or three days in any
event.
Cheers,
Tom
Emilio Teodoro Lopez-Garazgos <gara...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:<1103_1015085048@rob-tom>...
Tom Bruhns
I'm sorry...since pretty much everyone calls the Draftmaster by its
name instead of its number, I didn't even recognize that number, and
assumed it was one of the older large-format plotters. So...as a
matter of fact, I do have the manual on it. The 7596A should be a
Draftmaster II -- that is, a Draftmaster with capability to handle
roll paper.
The comments in my other posting apply pretty much, except that I can
tell you that the top connector should be the one you connect your
RS-232 cable to. If you happen to have an HP-IB output card (or some
source of HP-IB plotter files, such as one of the HP instruments that
will plot directly to HP-IB), you could use the bottom connector.
You should be able to bring up a menu on the little LCD display that
lets you set up the serial port. If it's not fairly obvious how to
set that up, please feel free to email me. There are some simple
things you can send the plotter to see if it's working. I assume you
have some programs which generate HP-GL output; if not, I'm not sure
what use the plotter will be, other than as a huge "etch-a-sketch" (a
child's toy that lets you draw lines on a "magic screen").
Cheers,
Tom
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Cass
several days ago. I haven't heard from you. I will send it again.
Thanks, Tom.
Cass
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