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Sir Robin

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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Anyone had any experience with this thingy?
What's the use? (the AutoDesk stories aren't that clear, after all they're
selling the thing..)

Thanx

MACMULLAN ARCHITECTS P.C.

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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Heres the scoop. I've had ADT for three weeks now and I'm severly
dissapointed. This is definitely a step backward from where Softdesk's S8
(auto architect) was last year.
I cant understand it. They (Adesk) had an award winning architectural
program (AA) right in front of them, and for the most part they chucked it
out the window and started from scratch.
The thing is useless for any kind of real world application, and forget
productivity. It would take me months to customize this thing before it were
anywhere near ready to use on on a major project.
Well, the egg is on my face, having spent the last two years convincing my
firm that Autodesk products were "the only way to go". Weve invested
thousands of dollars in Adesk software and at what should have been my
finest moment, I must now stand before my co-workers and admit that ADT is
not and will not be a workable solution for 3-4 years, if ever.
If my head doesnt roll for this, it'll be a miracle. At the very least I
could find my self at a drafting table, lettering, with a pencil!!


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mark linville

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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MACMULLAN ARCHITECTS P.C. wrote in message
<36599...@news.provide.net>...

>Heres the scoop. I've had ADT for three weeks now and I'm severly
>dissapointed. This is definitely a step backward from where
Softdesk's S8
>(auto architect) was last year.
>I cant understand it. They (Adesk) had an award winning architectural
>program (AA) right in front of them, and for the most part they
chucked it
>out the window and started from scratch.
>The thing is useless for any kind of real world application, and
forget
>productivity. It would take me months to customize this thing before
it were
>anywhere near ready to use on on a major project.
>Well, the egg is on my face, having spent the last two years
convincing my
>firm that Autodesk products were "the only way to go". Weve invested
>thousands of dollars in Adesk software and at what should have been
my
>finest moment, I must now stand before my co-workers and admit that
ADT is
>not and will not be a workable solution for 3-4 years, if ever.
>If my head doesnt roll for this, it'll be a miracle. At the very
least I
>could find my self at a drafting table, lettering, with a pencil!!

Oh, great! I've spent the last several years evangilising AutoCAD
using something like Softdesk, or, at the very least the bonus files
on the 14 CD. Now comes some 'real world' experience and....it
appears to be a 'rel 13' situation: a nice intermediate try, but
falls a bit short somehow. And, frankly, your situation is probably
not isolated. We, the users of the damn thing, have to plead and
suffer with the companies we work for to keep up with the upgrades -
usually the firms were 1/2 release and 3/4 years behind; wanting
somebody else to discover what was wrong with the product - and having
to 'suffer the slings and arrows' of the accounting departments
discontent....not to mention the 'We never had this problem with board
drafting!' (which I hope you *don't* get banished to, good Sir!).

I hope: a) this isn't as bad as it first appears. Again, we, the
users, ask our employers to purchase this product that we, the users,
who use the thing could never afford on our own, because there is *no*
way to preview the product, and it is we, the users, who have to sit
'with egg on (our) face(s)' when it does't live up to expectations
(mainly ours)....And let's not *even* get into Tech Support...Perhaps
good readers of this newsgroup could begin dissecting the product and
come up with suggestions/work-arounds, to make it usable for *us*!

and b) I really hope you *don't* lose your job over this. No one
deserves that kind of reward for the faith put in a product that is
*supposed* to work. Perhaps AutoDesk might offer a consulting
position to you to give feedback on what needs work? Perhaps there
might be some tech explanation why the code from SoftDesk wasn't
compatible enough with Autodesk code to make a better fit. Perhaps
the patch(es) are coming out in a few short months to bail us, the
users, out!

All I can recommend is do what you've been doing with AutoCAD up 'til
now: pull out a crowbar, roll up your sleeves, and force it to bend
to your will!!!

Good luck!!

(p.s. Sorry...I usually don't get up on the soapbox...there's more
than enough people doing that.)

mark
mli...@inlink.com
home page: http://www.inlink.com/~mlinvle/index.htm
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mackone

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Dec 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/7/98
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Did you get training with the package? I've found most add on packages
require as much an investment in training and customization as they do to
purchase before they become a viable solution. This is especially true for
Autodesk add ons.


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