autodesk certification
jody meyer
Autodesk certification test for
AutoCAD 2000. The question I'm asking is taking this test likely to help me
get a job in the design field.
what sort of companies look for it. thank you for taking the time to read
this, any response is a good one.
jody...@hotmail.com
Kenneth Anderson
Certification #3E2DTT0949
It never seemed to make much difference to my potential employers. Not ONE
of them ever Enquirer about it. (maybe about 12 different interviews over
the years since I took the exam)
One of the problems seems to me to be that AutoCAD changes every couple of
years with a new release. You get certified for AutoCAD 2000 and next year
will be AutoCAD r16.
Also, it is SO fragmented now. The certification is discipline specific
now. Arch, Mech, Civil.
I thought it was a waste of money for myself. I didn't really need to
study, the questions were VERY obscure and ambiguous!
But I learned a little bit from it. And it does add a nice line to your
resume.
I would say, if your resume does not have a lot to offer in terms of CAD
work, jump on it. Otherwise, dont bother...
But you better have your act together if you do take it. It costs $'s and
if dont pass it is money out the window!
A tip, also if you have a local AutoCAD users group where you live, join
it!
It makes a nice addition to your "Interests" section of your resume.
K
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Mike Warner
Kenneth Anderson <kwand...@ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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> I took the certification a few years ago.
> >
> Also, it is SO fragmented now. The certification is discipline specific
> now. Arch, Mech, Civil.
>
Now that's a novel approach.
You mean that prospective employers might want to know what you can actually
do with a software program?
Fragmented indeed! Always was - always will be. Design and drafting that is.
Does your fragment use tolerance appended dimensions? (that's an inside
joke, and not meant to be taken seriously)
I guess these days it doesn't matter - I've got an AutoCad certificate, I
can draw lines and circles. Heck! I can even produce a solid.
Whoopy Do. I'm a designer - what do you want me to design?
My advice - put the horse before the cart.
Whoever posted the original question - listen.
AutoCad is merely a tool. What is important is what you can do with that
tool.
Alas, some people know AutoCad every way to Christmas. These people become
consultants and ......
Shut up and get off you soapbox Mike.
They offer certifiation courses and ..... Shut up Mike.
They tell you that ..... BOOM! SHUT UP.
Gone.
Mike Warner.
Chad
I started in the architectural/engineering field about 3 years ago at the
age of 19 with no training or qualifications, only a bit of high school
drafting knowledge.
I learn't AutoCAD on the job as a trainee and found it quite easy to pick
up. I started by doing very simple kit structures as training, and am now
the office CAD manager and do the 3D rendering presentations for sales.
Maybe I was lucky, but I guess it could always be an advantage over somebody
who doesn't have one.
Good luck,
Chad.
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David Hansen
a minimum of extra money, go for it - it may help make the difference
between you and someone else. But I wouldn't invest too much money in it.
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Neville Williams
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> I am a student taking mechanical design. I'm also thinking of taking the
> Autodesk certification test for
> AutoCAD 2000. The question I'm asking is taking this test likely to help me
> get a job in the design field.
> this, any response is a good one.
Jody,
Our company has used Autocad Experts with certificates coming out of their ears
and some of them did not know 'didley squat"
I really wouldn't waste your time or money.
Better spent on a good book. Try to find one that has a CD with exercises that
you can work through in your own time
Get to know your software, by doing meaningful projects with it.
Ask,pester,cajole people around you who appear to have a grip on what they are
doing and you will soon sort out the helpful ones from the eggheads.
> what sort of companies look for it.
probably the big ones that stifle original thought outside the square with
cad-admins who have every proceedure catalogued with all the t's crossed and the
i's dotted.
Do some research in your area, for smaller inovative companies, that will let
you stretch outside the square.
--
Neville Williams
NewDesigN
CAD 2D/3D DESIGN & VISUALISATION
nev...@ihug.co.nz
Kenneth Anderson
'didley squat">>
about AutoCAD.
They are not that easy! It is just not possible, unless you cheat in some
way.
If those people passed AutoCAD certification Exam, they know how to use
AutoCAD. Believe me!
They just weren't trying for you.
The exams work, it is just that employers dont seem to really care all that
much. They are interested more in your working experience with AutoCAD,
not how well you know AutoCAD.
Mike Warner
> << certificates coming out of their ears and some of them did not know
> 'didley squat">>
> Sorry, you cant pass the AutoCAD certification exams without knowing squat
> about AutoCAD.
I think you missed Neville's point.
Sure, they may know all about AutoCad - but what use is that, to an
employer, if you know "didley" about what you are going to use it for?
> If those people passed AutoCAD certification Exam, they know how to use
> AutoCAD. Believe me!
Do you happen to teach the subject?
> The exams work, it is just that employers dont seem to really care all
that
> much. They are interested more in your working experience with AutoCAD,
> not how well you know AutoCAD.
Another novel concept!
David Hansen
There is a difference between being able to use AutoCAD, being able to
Draft, and being able to Design - And of course, there is the different
skills needed in each field.
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-Dave /;^{D>
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Kenneth Anderson <kwand...@ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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> << certificates coming out of their ears and some of them did not know
> 'didley squat">>
> Sorry, you cant pass the AutoCAD certification exams without knowing squat
> about AutoCAD.
> They are not that easy! It is just not possible, unless you cheat in some
> way.
>
> If those people passed AutoCAD certification Exam, they know how to use
> AutoCAD. Believe me!
> They just weren't trying for you.
paul_burgener
the final objective for them to be certified in AutoCAD. At the
end of their training, they were given free coupons to take the
exam for free. I never heard from any of them again, about
whether or not they took the exam. I doubt any of them ever
did.
Then later (several times) I used pages of the Certification Exam
Prep Manual (with publisher permission) as part of the classwork
in teaching AutoCAd Inquiry cammands. I always asked the
students to let me know if they wanted to take the
Certification Exam, because I'd like to share a ride with them
(about 2 or 2-1/2 hours) and take the exam myself. To date, not
a one ever called or wrote to carpool with me to the test center.
Again, I doubt any ever pursured it.
I hate to say this, but I fear the Certification never gained
recognition among employers or operators. Now I see Autodesk is
doing the exam via Internet, but they're still expensive. I
rather doubt they'll catch on now, either.
On the other hand, I may HAVE to take and pass them if I get
hired by an ATC. Although I've never known a student to ask
about the credentials of schools nor instructors before enrolling
in a class. When I took a class at an ATC I seemed to be the
only one that prefered the official "ATC diploma" over the more
official-looking community college version. I doubt the other
students even know what ATC stood far.
And yes, I agree you can only go so far knowing AutoCAD before
you have to have knowledge of piping, architecture, civil
engineering, or other specialty. Without special experience or
training, you'll be to the engineer (or senior designer) like aa
secretary (now administrative assistant) is to a businessperson.
Burg...@Bigfoot.com
Paul Burgener, Newport News, VA USA
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tyrian
>I learn't AutoCAD on the job as a trainee and found it quite
easy to pick
>up. I started by doing very simple kit structures as training,
and am now
>the office CAD manager and do the 3D rendering presentations for
sales.
Uhmm, you might think that this is overly familiar, but how much
do you get paid?
Ty
Mechmind
to cover. Dimensioning to name a few (let it rest guys!). Like knowing when
and where to apply it. To be aware of the built-in capabilities of the
manufacturing units (lathes, presses and so forth. OK?). To "see" what a
weld
placed here instead of there will do and so on. Urge you to go into the
matter of design itself and not first think about getting a job. It will pay
off in the sense that
you later on can say that you know what your'e talking about and know it
too.
If Mona Lisa was the product, DaVinci the designer and his brushes the tool,
it sort of put the perspective on what CAD is today. And I could go on, but
tell me anyone: what's the most important aspect of design. What's number
one, two a.s.o. Is it function, maintenance, cost, looks. What do YOU!
think?
Is there you think a succession in importance that ends with paint, color,
finish?
Hoping to add to the group the once in a while exchange on the philosophical
aspects about design in general.
Ernst.
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