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David Hinder

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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hey there everyone!

i've got a hauppauge wintv card in my computer and have connected the normal
(no decoder box) british ntl cable tv signal into it. i can receive all the
channels i am supposed to and also the whole load of scrambled cable tv
channels. these channels are using a sync-based encryption system. i was
wondering if there was any kind of software for a wintv card which will
either decrypt it, or help to restore the sync.

can anyone help me?
thanks,
david,
da...@advunit.demon.co.uk

(i am a sky customer so am already paying for the channels, this is purely
out of interest)


Jonathan

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Look you tosser, DO NOT post f***ing binaries to non binary newsgroups and
especially the same 600k file to four different non-binary newsgroups.

Use alt.binaries.satellite.tv, that is what it is there for.


Jon.


David Hinder

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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hey there!

thanks for the cable decoding software. i am not sure i know how to use it
though. you sent two zip files, winzip doesn't understand them and says
that they are not valid archives.

please could you help me and tell me exactly what to do with these files.
thanks,
see ya,
david,

Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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On Sunday, in article
<oZbr3.15925$ts3.4...@nnrp4.clara.net> j...@clara.net
"Jonathan" wrote:

> Look you tosser, DO NOT post f***ing binaries to non binary newsgroups and
> especially the same 600k file to four different non-binary newsgroups.

Reported to ab...@mediaone.net; actually, he posted to three different
discussion groups, plus two non-groups (alt.satellite.tv and
alt.satellite), each of which was rmgrouped at least five years ago when
alt.satellite.tv became a hierarchy.

> Use alt.binaries.satellite.tv, that is what it is there for.

Umm, make that alt.binaries.satellite-tv, please.

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IAN GARDNER

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Jonathan wrote in message ...


>Look you tosser, DO NOT post f***ing binaries to non binary newsgroups and
>especially the same 600k file to four different non-binary newsgroups.
>

>Use alt.binaries.satellite.tv, that is what it is there for.
>
>

>Jon.
A slight crosspost their! We at alt.satellite.tv.europe didn`t get this
600k file. Thank goodness. It was probally filtered out at the ISP.
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly}

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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On Sunday, in article
<934111987.3964.0...@news.demon.co.uk>
da...@advunit.demon.co.uk "David Hinder" wrote:

> hey there!
>
> thanks for the cable decoding software. i am not sure i know how to use it
> though. you sent two zip files, winzip doesn't understand them and says
> that they are not valid archives.

Microsoft's Arsehole Express is probably equally feckless with decoding
multipart binaries as it is with everything else; you needed to
concatencate the files decoded from the postings into ONE file (which
then *would* be a valid zip archive).

Please don't thank fuckwits for despoiling a discussion newsgroup with
binaries; the latter belong ONLY in the recognized binaries hierarchies
(and for us, that means in alt.binaries.satellite-tv).

> please could you help me and tell me exactly what to do with these files.

I (and others) have already told the original poster what he should do
with such files: doubtless by now the sysadmin at mediaone.net is also
telling him (probably by applying the aluminium LART up his rectum).

Åke Hellgren

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Aug 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/8/99
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Hi Brian
Can read that you are back again !!
Nice to se your most refreshing contribution to the NG.

Best Regards
Åke Hellgren

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote in message
<19990808.09...@dsl.co.uk>...


>On Sunday, in article
> <oZbr3.15925$ts3.4...@nnrp4.clara.net> j...@clara.net
> "Jonathan" wrote:
>

SNIP

Gilly Gilly

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Aug 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/11/99
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after all that , where can I get this (Non) corrupt version from peep's?


Alan Edwards

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:01:36 +0100, "David Hinder"
<da...@advunit.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>i've got a hauppauge wintv card in my computer and have connected the normal
>(no decoder box) british ntl cable tv signal into it. i can receive all the
>channels i am supposed to and also the whole load of scrambled cable tv
>channels. these channels are using a sync-based encryption system. i was
>wondering if there was any kind of software for a wintv card which will
>either decrypt it, or help to restore the sync.

I've also got a Win/TV card with the hyperband tuner, but no cable.
I'd often wondered whether the cable companies just relied on the
frequencies being too high for a standard tuner, or whether they were
encrypted too.

It's possible that something like a Lektropacks CopyMate CM-1 could
stabilise the picture, but you would have to use a VGA-to-TV adapter
and run the Win/TV card in full-screen mode.

If the encryption is sound-in-sync, where the sound is encoded into
the sync pulse, you will get no sound from the channels because the
CM-1 will just create a new clean sync pulse. Sound-in-sync used to
be used on satellite channels years ago, so there still may be pirate
sound-in-sync decoders lying around in lofts.

Alan.

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Simon Pocock

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Alan Edwards wrote in message <37bc3393....@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>...

>On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:01:36 +0100, "David Hinder"
><da...@advunit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>i've got a hauppauge wintv card in my computer and have connected the
normal
>>(no decoder box) british ntl cable tv signal into it. i can receive all
the
>>channels i am supposed to and also the whole load of scrambled cable tv
>>channels. these channels are using a sync-based encryption system. i was
>>wondering if there was any kind of software for a wintv card which will
>>either decrypt it, or help to restore the sync.
>
>I've also got a Win/TV card with the hyperband tuner, but no cable.
>I'd often wondered whether the cable companies just relied on the
>frequencies being too high for a standard tuner, or whether they were
>encrypted too.
>
I'm not sure where the 'hyperband' name came from, there's probably some
sort of history behind it, but it is actually in the VHF band.

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Nigel Goodwin

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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In article <7pjltm$16...@enews1.newsguy.com>, Simon Pocock
<poc...@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> writes

>I'm not sure where the 'hyperband' name came from, there's probably some
>sort of history behind it, but it is actually in the VHF band.

I don't know where the name came from either!, but it's only used in
cable systems, the frequencies it uses are already allocated for other
uses - so it can't be transmitted!. Many Grundig TV's include hyperband,
and I suspect it's fairly common on most continental TV's.
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Richard C. Ferryman

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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"David Hinder" <da...@advunit.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>hey there everyone!


>
>i've got a hauppauge wintv card in my computer and have connected the normal
>(no decoder box) british ntl cable tv signal into it. i can receive all the
>channels i am supposed to and also the whole load of scrambled cable tv
>channels. these channels are using a sync-based encryption system. i was
>wondering if there was any kind of software for a wintv card which will
>either decrypt it, or help to restore the sync.
>

As this is simply a synthesised tuner and there are drivers so it can
be used for TV or FM radio I assume those drivers simply set up tables
of synth divider ratios. I have some other WBFM signals I isten to
such as radio mics and OB links and often wondered if I could set the
tuner to *any* frequency in it's range by frequency rather than
channel number. What a pity there are no easily available general
purpose drivers for the cards with an 'open' structure so shareware
apps might appear.
Richard

Sky Walker

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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There does exist development library and source code somewhere on Internet for
those commonly used chips.

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:44:48 GMT, 10625...@compuserve.com (Richard C.
Ferryman) wrote:

=>"David Hinder" <da...@advunit.demon.co.uk> wrote:
=>
=>>hey there everyone!
=>>
=>>i've got a hauppauge wintv card in my computer and have connected the normal
=>>(no decoder box) british ntl cable tv signal into it. i can receive all the
=>>channels i am supposed to and also the whole load of scrambled cable tv
=>>channels. these channels are using a sync-based encryption system. i was
=>>wondering if there was any kind of software for a wintv card which will
=>>either decrypt it, or help to restore the sync.

The solution is easy. Just ask the decoder chip ignore the sync and guess the
sync timing first than manually adjust the sync timing.

=>>
=>As this is simply a synthesised tuner and there are drivers so it can
=>be used for TV or FM radio I assume those drivers simply set up tables
=>of synth divider ratios. I have some other WBFM signals I isten to
=>such as radio mics and OB links and often wondered if I could set the
=>tuner to *any* frequency in it's range by frequency rather than
=>channel number. What a pity there are no easily available general
=>purpose drivers for the cards with an 'open' structure so shareware
=>apps might appear.
=>Richard

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Alan Edwards

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Aug 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/26/99
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On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:44:42 +0100, "Simon Pocock"
<poc...@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> wrote:

>I'm not sure where the 'hyperband' name came from, there's probably some
>sort of history behind it, but it is actually in the VHF band.

Maybe I have it wrong, but I thought that was what the docs for the
Win/TV software called it.

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