Re: IMPORTANT!! ALL COMCAST Subscribers!! PLZ READ! COMCAST COMCAST
Nessnet
If you subscribed to Giganews (or others) directly, this becomes a non-issue.
You obviously were downloading tons of some very large files to have been flagged.
Or some other activity that used a huge amount of bandwidth.
Bottom line: Cable Internet is a shared resource. Each user on a node shares
with the others on a node. Using huge amounts of this shared resource adversely
effects the others - which you were doing. Comcast was protecting those others and
were totally within their rights to do so.
No lawyer will take you case - it is un-winnable. Deal with it. Get your porn somewhere else.
"BigPecs8" <Nu...@noyoudont.com.invalid> wrote in message news:4548b402$0$23925$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> As of Thursday, October 26, 2006, my personal Comcast internet account has
> been suspended by Comcast citing "abuse".
>
> I have rec'd no recent communications in any format from Comcast in
> reference to this suspension and can only conclude that this action is the
> result of an earlier "abuse" ticket from August, 2006.
>
> I subscribe/did subscribe to Unlimited News as a newsgroup provider and did
> not use Comcast for newsgroup file/message retrieval.
>
> Comcast permits any of their internet subscriber customers to
> download/retrieve a total of 2 (yes, two - this is not a typo) gigabytes of
> files/messages per month from their newsgroups. If you are in the middle of
> downloading a file and you have hit your 2 gb limit, you would be permitted
> to finish/conclude that particular download only with the amount above 2 gb
> coming off your next month's quota/limit.
>
> In reference to the August complaint I received one telephone call without
> any Caller ID around 8:30 PM one Thursday evening. According to an
> individual "John" of their Legal and Internet Abuse Division, I, as a
> Comcast internet subscriber, was guilty of "excessive usage" and was being
> warned that any further/repeated incidents of "heavy usage" would result in
> the suspension of my Comcast internet account. John went on to say that
> this potential suspension was at his/their sole discretion and could occur
> at any time, for any reason and without any prior notice, warning or
> communication whatsoever. John went on to say that my excessive usage could
> only be the result of my operating a business from my home and that I should
> contact Comcast Customer Service to subscribe to a commercial account. The
> cost of my personal account is/was $24.95 per month - introductory price.
> The cost of a commercial account is a little over $200.00 per month plus
> tax.
>
> In my defense, I informed John that my newsgroup message/file retrieval was
> from Unlimited News and not from Comcast's newsgroups so how could this be a
> concern of theirs?
>
> John stated that Comcast did not care as to whether or not the message/file
> retrieval came from their newsgroups, someone else's or whatever. The point
> was that it used "their bandwidth". Comcast and Comcast was now monitoring
> and
> recording usage "of their top 20%" internet subscribers and was determined
> to rid themselves of these customers.
>
> I asked John if the files your computer downloads when accessing a
> new/different web page were included in/on this "usage meter" total and he
> replied that any and all byte transference was included.
>
> Since a different newsgroup provider feeds Comcast, I asked if my
> subscription were changed from Unlimited to their "preferred" newsgroup
> provider (GigaNews) would I still be in jeopardy of having my account
> cancelled.
> Absolutely was the answer from John. "Newsgroup subscription firms and
> software for newsgroup reading are the main culprits for internet abuse and
> Comcast is making their demise our company's top priority."
>
> I stated that in addition to Unlimited News I used the news reader software
> from NewsRover. Could this be causing a problem I asked.
>
> John stated that he felt he had made Comcast's position very clear in this
> regard and that personally he would be glad when they were all gone.
>
> "What was the number of byte pass through that was considered abusive?" I
> asked. "There is no set number it's just the top 20%" was John's reply.
>
> "How can I monitor my total byte usage passed through Comcast?" "I don't
> know," said John. "We have those numbers but we are not going to make those
> available to you."
>
> Can you legally threaten disconnection of internet service for excessive
> usage under Comcast's Terms of Service? According to John, the TOS of
> Comcast's internet service are so broad in interpretation that they can
> pretty much do whatever they want. "Learn to live with it and find another
> ISP" he stated.
>
> Yes, if you read or see much on the internet and, in particular, the
> newsgroups you may have become pretty calloused as to what's credible and
>
> what's a load of BS.
>
> Don't take my word for it. If you're a Comcast internet subscriber, call
> the customer service dept number listed on your bill and ask for the
> telephone number of their Legal and Abuse Dept.
>
> The Abuse Dept vermin have clearly stated that the regular Comcast service
> representatives are not aware of the abuse dept's actions and do not have
> access to their information. Comcast Abuse Dept numbers are 856-317-7272 or
> 856-324-2025 or 856-638-4000. You don't/won't know if you're a "criminal"
> until after you're "suspended".
>
> bZiZgZpZ...@ZjZuZnZoZ.ZcZoZmZ <<<------<<< Remove Z for my
> "temporary" e-mail address.
>
>
> UPDATE!!
>
> I have now been informed that I can make an "application for reconnection"
> at the end of the twelve month suspension period but the decision(s) of the
> abuse dept Gods is final, without appeal and covered under their TOS.
>
> Right!
>
> I intend to file suit within the next 10 days and would welcome any
> supportive information.
>
> Big
Bit Twister
> As of Thursday, October 26, 2006, my personal Comcast internet account has
> been suspended by Comcast citing "abuse".
>
> I have rec'd no recent communications in any format from Comcast in
> reference to this suspension and can only conclude that this action is the
> result of an earlier "abuse" ticket from August, 2006.
>
> I subscribe/did subscribe to Unlimited News as a newsgroup provider and did
> not use Comcast for newsgroup file/message retrieval.
From what you say, your abuse is about your total download via cable.
It has nothing to do with which news service you are using, per say.
You may be running internet radio, watching internet videos,
downloading Usenet posts, downloading iso/cd images to burn,,,,,
and all that download activity has you in the abuse department radar.
Now I have downloaded several cds in a month, and get updates for
three machines for linux and have yet to get a warning from comcast.
Vanguard
news:4548b402$0$23925$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
<snip - same drivel multiposted in other groups>
You didn't fool anyone over at 24hoursupport.helpdesk, either, where
you cross-posted to the UNRELATED newsgroups
3b.test,12hr.sex.oral,12hr.sex.normal and now you're cross-posting a
separate copy of your drivel to other unrelated groups again, like
alt.alt.sex. Guess it takes awhile to retype your post when one of
your hands is constantly busy polishing the bishop.
Well, if they are monitoring YOUR particular traffic, it would be
pretty easy for them to extract the NNTP commands while sniffing your
traffic to see what groups you were visiting that generated all that
traffic on your *personal* account with them. Maybe they're just
tired of having to deal with all the bandwidth consumption of
masturbating binary group participants so the cure would be to simply
deny the return traffic when attempting to visit the porn groups.
That certainly would cut down on a large portion of their NNTP type
traffic.
They probably have gotten complaints from other users on your segment
that they can't get any decent bandwidth - because you are sucking it
all up. Those other users didn't know it was you eating up all the
bandwidth but just knew it got slow, they complained, and Comcast
noticed the continuous high usage from your endpoint. You don't want
to share. Their solution is to let others share and take out the hog.
They have all their customers to consider, so getting rid of one bad
customer is a no-brainer to maintain all the other accounts.
Apparently you were warned before. You chose to ignore the warning.
So they decided to take action and you lost.
Go read their Acceptable Use Policy, section i. You'll know the word
that applies to you, then read section ii. Then read section vii
which applies to you sucking up too much bandwidth on the shared
segment with other users on the same segment as you. What, you
thought Comcast wouldn't or couldn't censor your traffic?
Alex
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left
to speak up for me.
---Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892-1984)
Anthony Marsh
How do you generate that umlaut?
CommTech
> How do you generate that umlaut?
Ummm...German keyboard? Just a guess.
Alex
wrote:
>
>> How do you generate that umlaut?
>
>Ummm...German keyboard? Just a guess.
>
Copy and pasted from MS Word. See "6 tips for adding international
characters and symbols to your document":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA011268771033.aspx
NC
"CommTech" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1ZGdneF7NucErdfY...@comcast.com...
>
> > How do you generate that umlaut?
>
> Ummm...German keyboard? Just a guess.
>
>
The Microsoft Character Map utility has all sorts of characters and symbols
that you can use in most any document.
catv tech
BigPecs8 wrote:
> As of Thursday, October 26, 2006, my personal Comcast internet account has
> been suspended by Comcast citing "abuse".
>
> I have rec'd no recent communications in any format from Comcast in
> reference to this suspension and can only conclude that this action is the
> result of an earlier "abuse" ticket from August, 2006.
>
> I subscribe/did subscribe to Unlimited News as a newsgroup provider and did
> not use Comcast for newsgroup file/message retrieval.
>
"POLISHING THE BISHOP ???" Never heard that one before .... LMAO !!!
notbob
> As of Thursday, October 26, 2006, my personal Comcast internet account has
> been suspended by Comcast citing "abuse".
With all the stupid crossposting, you deserve it.
"Baliff, whack his pee-pee!"
nb
Warren
> "POLISHING THE BISHOP ???" Never heard that one before .... LMAO !!!
Well, to paraphrase a classic movie: Wax on; whacks-off.
Edward
Vanguard wrote:
> "BigPecs8" wrote in message
> news:4548b402$0$23925$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
> <snip - same drivel multiposted in other groups>
>
> You didn't fool anyone over at 24hoursupport.helpdesk, either, where
> you cross-posted to the UNRELATED newsgroups
> 3b.test,12hr.sex.oral,12hr.sex.normal and now you're cross-posting a
> separate copy of your drivel to other unrelated groups again, like
> alt.alt.sex. Guess it takes awhile to retype your post when one of
> your hands is constantly busy polishing the bishop.
>
> Well, if they are monitoring YOUR particular traffic, it would be
> pretty easy for them to extract the NNTP commands while sniffing your
> traffic to see what groups you were visiting that generated all that
> traffic on your *personal* account with them. Maybe they're just
> tired of having to deal with all the bandwidth consumption of
> masturbating binary group participants so the cure would be to simply
> deny the return traffic when attempting to visit the porn groups.
> That certainly would cut down on a large portion of their NNTP type
> traffic.
So that's why Giganew is offering encrypted feeds.
Capitalism I suppose!
Charles Newman
"Bit Twister" <BitTw...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:slrnekhl84.f...@wb.home.invalid...
The limit would have to be awfully high. I once
purchased a Flgiht Simulator add-on from Flight
1, that was 1.1 gig in length, but the download
failed, and I had to start again, and 2.2 gigs
never got me any warning from Comcast.
Charles Newman
"Edward" <Edward....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162532306.0...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
I think the encrypted feeds are more so that you
can surf from work, without being detected by
the boss. If they cannot sniff your data, and
find out what you are up to, they have to find
another reason to fire you.
>
Charles Newman
Why doesn't Comcast start doing like one cable company
in Alaska did, and start charging extra for bandwidth
over a certain amount. I read once that GCI cable
in Anchorage charges $20 per gigabye for usage
over a certian amount, depending on what level
of service you have.
Comcast should do that with high bandwidth users and
make a few bucks.
Charles Newman
"BigPecs8" <Nu...@noyoudont.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4548b402$0$23925$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> As of Thursday, October 26, 2006, my personal Comcast internet account has
> been suspended by Comcast citing "abuse".
>
> I have rec'd no recent communications in any format from Comcast in
> reference to this suspension and can only conclude that this action is the
> result of an earlier "abuse" ticket from August, 2006.
>
> I subscribe/did subscribe to Unlimited News as a newsgroup provider and
did
> not use Comcast for newsgroup file/message retrieval.
>
Would Comcast even install a business-level connection
in a residence? I know htat DSL and T-1 providers
will install business-level service in your home, but
I doubt it Comcast, or any of the cable networks
would.