Amway Crown Ambassadors
David Steadson
Below is a list of Amway's Crown Ambassadors (20+ qualified direct legs)
from the Amway 40th site (www.amway40th.com). What surprised me the most
was to learn Britt and Yager only just went Crown A. I have a question for
you learned folk though. One would assume that many of these people
particularly the more recent ones, run their own support organisations. How
come >95% of all the complaints seem to be from the same couple of
"leaders"? Where are all the horror stories from all the rest?
I'd also be interested in hearing from people about which "organisation"
various of these crowns operate as a part of, if any.
Cheers!
david
1978
Jim & Sharon Janz (Canada)
1979
Charlie & Elsie Marsh (U.S.)
John McCoy (U.S.)
Chuck & Jean Strehli (U.S.)
Jerry & Sharyn Webb (U.S.)
Dan & Bunny Williams (U.S.)
Dr. Peter & Eva Müller-Meerkatz (Germany)
1980
Dallas & Betty Beaird (U.S.)
John & Pat Hendrickson (U.S.)
Frank & Rita DeLisle (U.S.)
1982
Joe & France Mas (France)
Marianne & Max Schwarz (Germany)
1985
Dick & Sandee Marks (U.S.)
1987
E.H. Erick & Midori Ito (Japan)
Kaoru Nakajima (Japan)
1991
Clement & Anita Fu (Hong Kong)
Renate Backhaus (Germany)
Shuji & Tomoko Hamamoto (Japan)
Tatsuo & Atsuko Hayashi (Japan)
Bob & Joyce Schmidt (Canada)
1994
Maria Schleipfer (Germany)
1995
H.S. Hsu & S.F. Hsieh (Taiwan)
Tsai Lung Chen & C.H. Yang (Taiwan)
1996
Nanai & Seisuke Arima (Japan)
Takeshi & Hidemi Azumi (Japan)
Kyung Ja Park & Jae Oh Joo (Korea)
Peter Lee & Choi Kit (Malaysia)
XuXu Xheng & Xie Shu Fen (China)
Ryusuke & Elaine Seto (Japan)
1997
Jim & Nancy Dornan (U.S.)
Hidekazu & Yuki Kajihara (Japan)
Morihiko & Seiko Kitakon (Japan)
Mitch & Deidre Sala (Australia)
1998
Tim & Connie Foley (U.S.)
S.C. Wang & N.K. Chien (Taiwan)
Witat & Jintana Pornjaded (Thailand)
Yoshiyuki & Mineko Yamazaki (Japan)
1999
Bill & Peggy Britt (U.S.)
Holly Chen & Barry Chi (Taiwan)
Dexter & Birdie Yager (U.S
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you get to crown direct before your
upline? I think Foley is actually in the Yeager line (maybe I'm
wrong). Maybe Foley made it to 20 personal sponsored directs before
Dexter bought his last couple of legs. Foley still can use the
"Yaeger" system eventhough he got to a higher level before Dex. did.
Let me ask you a question. If your line of sponsorship is so superior,
what is your group doing to "market" its benefits and advantages? How
does one get the word out that their line is not full of tool selling
scumbuckets who don't give a rats _ss about Amway products?
Why doesn't someone do a comparitive analysis on lines of sponsorship?
If it is objective, I may be willing to post it. Want to write on the
differences between lines of sponsorship and have it posted on my site?
Scott
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David Steadson
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> David,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you get to crown direct before your
> upline? I think Foley is actually in the Yeager line (maybe I'm
> wrong). Maybe Foley made it to 20 personal sponsored directs before
> Dexter bought his last couple of legs. Foley still can use the
> "Yaeger" system eventhough he got to a higher level before Dex. did.
Yes, thats right, and I think you're right about Foley, though I believe he
works with N21 in some foreign markets. There were some rumours he was
going to pull his entire organisation over to N21, I don't know how true
that is. One of his Diamonds (Louie and Kathy Carillo) have been regular
speakers at N21 functions. Its not quite as simple to define though, as
even within a training system I think there's a deal of independence. For
example, our upline Diamond (actually CAs, the Salas) run a number of their
own meetings. They're under the banner of N21 but I'm told they have a
different "feel" and emphasis to some other Diamonds meetings. I gather N21
is actually stricter than most though on trying to get Diamonds to fit into
a particular methodology.
> Let me ask you a question. If your line of sponsorship is so superior,
> what is your group doing to "market" its benefits and advantages? How
> does one get the word out that their line is not full of tool selling
> scumbuckets who don't give a rats _ss about Amway products?
I'm not sure if we are "so superior" as you put it. In fact N21 teaches not
to say we are better or worse than other groups or LOSs. I haven't had
experience with all the rest, so I can't really say, its just I've noticed
nearly all of the complaints seem to come from the same few. Now that could
be an artificate of those two being the largest in the US, which I have
heard is the case, but it still seems to me there are an awful lot of people
worldwide, perhaps even a majority, that aren't a part of those systems.
As for what we do? Not much we really can do except to try and act
professionally and learn from the mistakes of others. I actually have quite
a few distributors in my group who have previously been involved with
systems run by the 2 that shall go unnamed, and they tell me our meetings
are far more professional and less hypy and more informative, and less
materialistic.
> Why doesn't someone do a comparitive analysis on lines of sponsorship?
> If it is objective, I may be willing to post it. Want to write on the
> differences between lines of sponsorship and have it posted on my site?
That actually was part of the aim of my Crown post. I really am curious to
know the differences. I'd be fascinated to hear from a Japanese distributor
about how it operates there. Its been fantastically successful, though
there's been a bad slump recently. Regarding N21 I can supply the basic
"system" information and also its "guiding principles", but I know nothing
from other groups.
David
David Steadson
for different countries, and the differences in how they operate (eg China).
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"David Steadson" <dav...@ambience.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Below is a list of Amway's Crown Ambassadors (20+ qualified direct
legs)
> from the Amway 40th site (www.amway40th.com). What surprised me the
most
> was to learn Britt and Yager only just went Crown A.
Interesting -- Paul Miller made Crown cubic zirconia with a cherry on
top back in 93/94 (foregot what year) and he's not even listed. The year
after that Billy-boy qualified (I reckon he couldn't stand one of his
downline passing him up) and Yager's been one for quite some time also.
Maybe someone who has spAmagrams for 99 could look up what yager and
britt qualified for this year. Wasn't there some kind of founders pin or
something like that?
Slamboz
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"David Steadson" <dav...@ambience.com> wrote:
> Probably Crown Directs (18 legs) not Crown Ambassadors (20 legs)
>
You're right about miller. He only made crown. This was in the Jul 93
issue.
The Apr 92 issue showed Yager qualified as CA.
The Nov 94 issue showed Britt qualified as CA. Once apparently wasn't
enough. The Jul 96 showed him qualified as CA again :o)
The May 97 issue showed Dornan qualified as CA.
The Feb 98 issue showed Foley qualified as CA.
They undoubtly reached that level several months before they appeared in
the magazine.