Contractor putting ad sign on property
geo....@hotmail.com
thing is he put up an ad sign on my property which was not discussed
at the onset of work which kind of pisses me off. Am I out of line to
take this down without telling him. I've already paid for work but
don't want to create any hard feelings. There is nothing anyhere in
writing where I agreed to this. Don't people usually get discounts for
doing this since it's free advertising? The guy seems to have a great
rep around town which was why I hired him.....but still my question.
Thanks in advance.
K
tb...@bellsouth.net
Oh, come off it.
T
Andy Asberry
Other than advertising, it helps delivery drivers find him to drop
supplies.
S. Barker
dumpster. You didn't receive a discount for advertising for him.
s
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S. Barker
s
"Andy Asberry" <aasb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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RicodJour
Are you a bubble boy and have never been out of the house? How is it
possible that you don't see contractors' signs when you drive around?
Is this the first project you've ever done on your house? Why would
you assume that a contractor pays a homeowner to put up a sign? Where
do you think the money the contractor would pay the homeowner would
come from? Doh.
Why would his sign piss you off? The bulk of a contractor's referrals
come from neighbors.
Why would you do something stupid like take his sign down without
asking? Not asking beforehand about the sign caused your mental
turmoil.
But go ahead. Take down the sign and then try to guess where the guy
will cut a corner on your project in retaliation.
And to answer your question - yes, you're totally out of line.
Getting pissed off about such a thing is frightening. I feel sorry
for your contractor.
R
Glenn
"RicodJour" <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> But go ahead. Take down the sign and then try to
> guess where the guy
> will cut a corner on your project in retaliation.
>
> And to answer your question - yes, you're totally out
> of line.
> Getting pissed off about such a thing is frightening.
> I feel sorry
> for your contractor.
>
> R
Best answer yet!!!!
curt
I'm not clear on this. Is the job done and the contractor gone ? Did he
forget to take it down when he left or does he leave his signs around the
neighborhood ? If he's done and gone, then I think most people would
just take the sign down without a second thought.
Curt
CWatters
If you don't want to create hard fellings leave the sign alone. Yes he
probably should have asked but no you don't normally get a discount for a
temporary sign. Just congratulate yourself on the fact that you chose a
contractor who takes pride in his work.
geo....@hotmail.com
Yes I should have been more clear on that the job is done and he is
gone. He put the sign up when he left.
To the others who were appalled by me being pissed off...I've had
plenty of contractors working and understand the necessity for signage
while the work is in progress and have even offered them to put up
signs if they didn't have them. I hope this clears up my point.
K
jloomis
You should have paid those who gave you a good rep for their service.
He is not selling Ice Cream
If he did a good job maybe you could pass this on for him like others did
for you.
Next you will sue for tripping on a nail that he left......
jloomis
curt
>
> Yes I should have been more clear on that the job is done and he is
> gone. He put the sign up when he left.
No contractor should erect a sign after the job is done. I wouldn't be
angry at him for it though. Just shitcan the sign and move on.
My feeling is that the real problem here is that you are angry at
yourself not the contractor.
Curt
S. Barker
s
"Glenn" <pil...@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Wilson
feelings will be made. Who knows why he put it up late, but as long as no
harm was done ie. he nailed it to the garage or your tree.
As for getting paid for his advertising, ever get a discount on clothing
just because it carried a logo? Good luck.
--
Wilson N45 W67
ransley
He has a good reputation, so you probably saw his sign in the
neighbors yard. He should have asked but probably forgot, sure throw
it away, and when you need him to do more work you will be paying for
the sign. If the work was good quit being an ass, he needs work, times
are tough, leave it up for a week.
ransley
Do you get paid for the car dealer sticker on your car.
Dioclese
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I'm sure the contract had a clause regarding hauling off trash and debris.
Offer to the contractor to remove the sign himself within 2 business days.
If he doesn't, take pictures of the sign with current day's newspaper
showing date on it in same picture. Pull up the sign. Take him to small
claims court for recovery of garbage fee, and landscaping fee to cover the
hole, and court costs. There's also a possibility of getting a splinter in
your hand removing the sign which would involve medical costs, time lost
from work and so forth. ;)
--
Dave
Parkinson's disease, not easy to define.
Much less cure.
Glenn
"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
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>
> I'm sure the contract had a clause regarding hauling
> off trash and debris. Offer to the contractor to
> remove the sign himself within 2 business days. If he
> doesn't, take pictures of the sign with current day's
> newspaper showing date on it in same picture. Pull
> up the sign. Take him to small claims court for
> recovery of garbage fee, and landscaping fee to cover
> the hole, and court costs. There's also a
> possibility of getting a splinter in your hand
> removing the sign which would involve medical costs,
> time lost from work and so forth. ;)
> --
> Dave
Dave, I would never want you for a client . You sound
like a damn lawyer. A set-up one. Spelled schister?
The more I think of it, your answer is down right
contemplable.
He didn't say the job was done The contractor probably
forgot the thing. Quite being such a damn baby and as
one said, shitcan it and grow up.
Bill
"Glenn" <pil...@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
curt
> DITTO!
Damn, if every contractor I worked with this year put a sign up in front
of my house when he was done working it would look like Disneyland out
there.
Throw the sign out - your contractor had no business putting it up.
CWatters
> Yes I should have been more clear on that the job is done and he is
> gone. He put the sign up when he left.
If I was happy with the work I'd probably leave the sign up a month and then
take it down.
At least you won't have to answer the door to people wanting to know which
contractor you used.
Bill
I assumed you were complaining that it was up while he was still working
there.
Take the Damn sign down, and be done with it...
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Frank K.
S. Barker
sticker off my new car before i left their lot.
s
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Dioclese
You know what an emoticon is? ;) ;-) :)
--
Dave
Dioclese
could become a sheepherder tending the conformists...
--
Dave
Resistance is futile (few-tile), you will be absorbed...
"S. Barker" <ichase...@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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Edward Hennessey
> I recently had some work done and contractor did a great job. The
> thing is he put up an ad sign on my property which was not discussed
> at the onset of work which kind of pisses me off. Am I out of line to
> take this down without telling him. I've already paid for work but
> writing where I agreed to this. Don't people usually get discounts for
> doing this since it's free advertising? The guy seems to have a great
> rep around town which was why I hired him.....but still my question.
>
> Thanks in advance.
K:
As others have said, your umbrage for a fine job and the customary practice
of posting an advertising sign seem a little misplaced. Nonetheless, your
concern
is appreciated. I'd treat the contractor like you would care to be treated
in his place.
He wants his advertising and has money invested in making the sign. You
want it
off your property as the job is done. My guess is that your municipality,
like many,
has ordinances restricting commercial signage in residential areas.
Don't destroy his sign. Simply call him and note that the job has been
concluded
to your satisfaction and you'd kindly like the sign removed so you don't
run afoul of
community standards, which may cost him confiscation of his sign and
someone--you
or him--a citation and/or fine. Ask him to come and remove it as promptly
as possible
or be responsible for dealing with those contingencies which include
possible attention
from the business-licensing arm of your community. If he temporizes, take
the
sign down and hold it for him for what you think is a reasonable period,
telling
him you will dispose of it for him by a given date if he doesn't reclaim
it.
If he isn't interested in incurring the cost of a new sign for future
use, he will be responsive and there will be no hard feelings which might
pass by word of mouth to other contractors you might wish to employ later.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
curt
> As others have said, your umbrage for a fine job and the customary
> practice of posting an advertising sign seem a little misplaced.
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey
Edward, your world is beautiful. I almost cried when I read this post
but I told myself not to. I don't know why we don't have someone like
you in the Middle East talking calmly to the islamic radicals. I don't
know what "temporizes" means, but I'll bet Osama and his gang does it on
a regular basis.
RicodJour
>
> Yes I should have been more clear on that the job is done and he is
> gone. He put the sign up when he left.
> To the others who were appalled by me being pissed off...I've had
> plenty of contractors working and understand the necessity for signage
> while the work is in progress and have even offered them to put up
> signs if they didn't have them. I hope this clears up my point.
Indeed it does. I was a bit dumbfounded about how you could be pissed
off when the guy is doing good work for you, but putting up a sign
after he's done and gone is another story. Call the contractor and
ask him whether he's going to come pick up the sign or you should just
throw it out. Sorry if I jumped all over you shoes, but you were not
clear about the timing.
To put things in perspective, in my neck of the woods all permitted
jobs are required to have a huge honking sign that lists the
contractor's contact information, the building permit number, the damn
local politicians (talk about free advertising), etc. That bothers me
way more than a contractor putting up a sign while he's doing the
work.
R
RicodJour
> I don't buy clothing with a logo. AND i made the dealership take the
> sticker off my new car before i left their lot.
Really. I guess you take off the hood emblem and all identifying
marks on the vehicle too. I guess you don't buy athletic shoes, use
_any_ sort of recreational equipment, etc. Must be a quiet life...
R
S. Barker
if he wants the sign, it's in the ditch in front of where he left it and
will be in the dumpster tomorrow.
s
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blah, blah, blah deleted............
S. Barker
yes, i've been known to remove the brand from the vehicle
No i don't buy athletic shoes. Mine are work boots that the brand doesn't
show on, and walmart velcro fastened shoes ($10) when i'm off.
No recreational eq.
yes, it IS quiet. My closest neighbor is 1/2 mile north and the next
closest is 1-1/2 mile south. And they're both in their 80's. I hardly ever
hear from them.
"RicodJour" <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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Edward Hennessey
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:34:44 -0700, Edward Hennessey wrote:
>
>> As others have said, your umbrage for a fine job and the customary
>> practice of posting an advertising sign seem a little misplaced.
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward Hennessey
>
>
> Edward, your world is beautiful. I almost cried when I read this post
> but I told myself not to. I don't know why we don't have someone like
> don't know what "temporizes" means, but I'll bet Osama and his gang
> does it on a regular basis.
C:
Thank you very much. I'm afraid I'll be declining the Middle Eastern
posting though.
That's a place that makes you thankful you don't live there even as you
wonder how anybody does.
Looking at the contractor's position it would have been most forthright and
foresighted for him to give notice to the OP about signage he was going to
erect, explaining
that the advertising benefit he expected to yield from the posting of that
sign
allowed him to make his best price consideration on the job. Of course,
if the OP didn't want the sign the contractor could have made that an issue
in arriving at his quotation.
But, in general, this doesn't seem like a nuclear issue to me.
Kind regards,
Edward Hennessey
Edward Hennessey
>>>>As others have said, your umbrage for a fine job and the customary
>>>>practice
>>>>of posting an advertising sign seem a little misplaced. Nonetheless,
>>>>your
>>>>concern
>>>>.is appreciated. I'd treat the contractor like you would care to be
>>>>treated
>>>>in his place.
>>>>He wants his advertising and has money invested in making the sign. You
>>>>want it
>>>>off your property as the job is done. My guess is that your
>>>>municipality,
>>>>like many,
>>>>has ordinances restricting commercial signage in residential areas.
>>>>Don't destroy his sign. Simply call him and note that the job has been
>>>>concluded
>>>>to your satisfaction and you'd kindly like the sign removed so you
>>>>don't
>>>>run afoul of
>>>>community standards, which may cost him confiscation of his sign and
>>>>someone--you
>>>>or him--a citation and/or fine. Ask him to come and remove it as
>>>>promptly
>>>>as possible
>>>>or be responsible for dealing with those contingencies which include
>>>>possible attention
>>>>from the business-licensing arm of your community. If he temporizes,
>>>>take
>>>>the
>>>>sign down and hold it for him for what you think is a reasonable
>>>>period,
>>>>telling
>>>>him you will dispose of it for him by a given date if he doesn't
>>>>reclaim it.
>>>>If he isn't interested in incurring the cost of a new sign for future
>>>>use, he will be responsive and there will be no hard feelings which
>>>>might
>>>>pass by word of mouth to other contractors you might wish to employ
>>>>later.
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Edward Hennessey
S. Barker wrote:
> Why sugar coat it and lie? I'd (probably not) call the guy, and
> tell him if he wants the sign, it's in the ditch in front of where he
> left it and will be in the dumpster tomorrow.
>
> s
>
>
SB:
The word "lie" wasn't used in what I said nor was it to be correctly
inferred. If any of the above reasons weren't truthfully available to the
OP,
he could have easily handled the matter another way without having to
reasonably anticipate malicious consequences or unkind references passed
from his contractor to others.
There are a lot of hot-tempered people around who are just looking for
any real or imagined something to spur their instinct for revenge. If
someone
of that kind were involved here and the OP wrecked their sign without--as
you wouldn't--calling him, that wouldn't seem to optimize his best chance
of
putting the matter safely to an easy rest. But that's my opinion.
You're quite welcome to yours.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
curt
> don't have hood emblems,
> yes, i've been known to remove the brand from the vehicle No i don't buy
> athletic shoes. Mine are work boots that the brand doesn't show on, and
> walmart velcro fastened shoes ($10) when i'm off. No recreational eq.
>
> yes, it IS quiet. My closest neighbor is 1/2 mile north and the next
> closest is 1-1/2 mile south. And they're both in their 80's. I hardly
> ever hear from them.
>
>
> "RicodJour" <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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>> On May 15, 11:49 pm, "S. Barker" <ichasetra...@coldmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't buy clothing with a logo. AND i made the dealership take the
>>> sticker off my new car before i left their lot.
>>
>> Really. I guess you take off the hood emblem and all identifying marks
>> on the vehicle too. I guess you don't buy athletic shoes, use _any_
>> sort of recreational equipment, etc. Must be a quiet life...
>>
>> R
Livin the good life...
RicodJour
> don't have hood emblems,
> yes, i've been known to remove the brand from the vehicle
> No i don't buy athletic shoes. Mine are work boots that the brand doesn't
> show on, and walmart velcro fastened shoes ($10) when i'm off.
> No recreational eq.
Of course. How long does it take you to grind the raised lettering
off of your wrenches? It must drive you crazy to take a shower and
see that damned DELTA on the shower body. Staring at the car
manufacturer's name/logo on your steering wheel must send you through
the roof.
Everything you own has a manufacturer's mark somewhere and many items
have more than a few. The fact that you can tune out some of them and
not others is a bit odd. I also don't understand why you'd limit the
available pool of merchandise over such an odd peccadillo. To each
his own.
R
RicodJour
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:51:29 -0500, S. Barker wrote:
> > don't have hood emblems,
> > yes, i've been known to remove the brand from the vehicle No i don't buy
> > athletic shoes. Mine are work boots that the brand doesn't show on, and
> > walmart velcro fastened shoes ($10) when i'm off. No recreational eq.
>
> > yes, it IS quiet. My closest neighbor is 1/2 mile north and the next
> > closest is 1-1/2 mile south. And they're both in their 80's. I hardly
> > ever hear from them.
>
Is that the one with the feet up drinking a beer in a paper bag so you
won't have to see the label and taping over the television set's
maker's mark? ;)
R
CWatters
"Bill" <bar...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I did not read that the sign was put up till after he finished.
> I assumed you were complaining that it was up while he was still working
> there.
>
> Take the Damn sign down, and be done with it...
>
Na, then he'll have lots of people knocking on his door wanting to know who
did the great work :-)
curt
If you like logos and unsolicited advertising so much, how about I put my
foot up your ass and then advertise on your forehead, "This work done by
Curt, call if you like it"
Glenn
"curt" <97Wid...@cox.net.invalid> wrote in message
There is always some smart aleck who hasn't the ability
communicate without getting cute
Edward Hennessey
G:
We are agreed that the purpose of these sign threads has unraveled
badly. And it is probably a good time to move on.
If anyone wants to be bothered by little things like removing all
logos, name plates and trademarked designs from everything in
their world, then it will be a long time before they can move beyond
little things to something productive, civility being a key to the latter.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
S. Barker
drives by.
and for the delta, well I wouldn't piss on a delta. mine are all peerless.
it's not about what _I_ see, it's about advertising for other people for
free.
s
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RicodJour
> not the same comparison. My tools are not on display for everyone who
> drives by.
>
> and for the delta, well I wouldn't piss on a delta. mine are all peerless.
>
> it's not about what _I_ see, it's about advertising for other people for
> free.
There is no mechanism for a company to pay every single purchaser/
customer for "advertising space" of a logo, nor to have an "opt in"
program for logos and such. I can understand the OP's position about
a sign being left on his property even though it is not an uncommon
practice - the contractor's work usually looks a helluva lot better
when it's completed than when it's under construction, so that is
obviously the best time to advertise the quality of the work. But my
question for you, what do you think the value of the advertising space
of a logo on your car is worth? I mean it's one of millions and the
space is negligible - how much would you want them to pay you to make
it worth your while? Since the company presumably doesn't mint their
own money, where do you think that money would come from? Right -
from everybody that buys from them - in other words, you. So, in a
nutshell, you are already getting paid for that advertising by not
paying for that advertising when you buy the product/service.
But, like I said, to each his own.
R
curt
Wasn't trying to be smart. Just pointing out that because someone buys a
tool with a logo on it, it doesn't follow that he should also allow a
builder to label work done on his house . Where do you draw the line ?
Should a tatoo artist be allowed to put his name and phone number below a
job well done ?
Glenn
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Interesting thought. [g]
tmu...@juno.com
> I recently had some work done and contractor did a great job. The
> thing is he put up an ad sign on my property which was not discussed
> at the onset of work which kind of pisses me off. Am I out of line to
> take this down without telling him. I've already paid for work but
> writing where I agreed to this. Don't people usually get discounts for
> doing this since it's free advertising? The guy seems to have a great
> rep around town which was why I hired him.....but still my question.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> K
I told the guys who installed my carpet to turn off the radio because
they rudely blasted it as soon as they got in the house and I was
working from home that day. I then had to hire another guy to come in
and fix the crappy workmanship I got from the first people. There is
no way to prove it but I think they would have done a crappy job
anyway but I also think they were pissed at me and maybe did extra
crappy work.