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warren...@gmail.com
Aug 4, 2006, 3:14:52 PM8/4/06
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In some older buildings, usually small buildings in the basement or
below a flat roof, there was a cinder block ceiling- with cinder blocks
just like on a wall. Has anyone heard of this before, and if so, how
did they support the cinder blocks, and mortar them together despite
gravity?
below a flat roof, there was a cinder block ceiling- with cinder blocks
just like on a wall. Has anyone heard of this before, and if so, how
did they support the cinder blocks, and mortar them together despite
gravity?
dpb
Aug 5, 2006, 2:21:23 PM8/5/06
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warren...@gmail.com wrote:
> In some older buildings, usually small buildings in the basement or
> below a flat roof, there was a cinder block ceiling- with cinder blocks
No, I've never seen a cinder block ceiling/roof (although which do you
mean?)
Poured concrete, yes, even for a relatively small structure, but never
block.
> ...and if so, how
> did they support the cinder blocks, and mortar them together despite
> gravity?
Would have to have had a support frame of some sort to have done such,
but it doesn't sound like a good idea to me however it might (if it
actually was) have been done.
warren...@gmail.com
Aug 5, 2006, 3:53:03 PM8/5/06
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I will take a picture at one such building I am aware of which has it.
The building I am aware of is a private pool club of which I am a
member. The room with the block ceiling has a flat roof above it, so
my guess is that the blocks are the ceiling below, and the substrate
for the roof above, which is a tar/ruber roof.
Italian
Aug 6, 2006, 12:42:57 AM8/6/06
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Having a great uncle that owned a block plant that actually made
"cinderblock" by hand it is a personal pet peve that bugs the holly
H%&* out of me when people call concrete block cinderblock.
What you are refering to posibally could be cinderblock because of the
age issue. Please note this comment is not directed at you but I wanted
to take this oppertunity to mention this. Even the home shows on TV use
this term and its just not right. Cinder blocks were actually mande
from cinders and looked nor performed (we know that now) nothing like
concrete block. "Cinder" block have not been made in this country for
more than 50 years yet there is a new trend (caused by the home shows)
at calling these concrete block cinder block. I have not doubt that
what you are refering to could infact be cinder block. To answer your
question without to much detail these blocks were laid on a wood form
supported from below by a series of posts or by a combination of posts
and beams. The block are then laid as you would lay brick in a side
walk or patio. They are of course filled with concrete......
"cinderblock" by hand it is a personal pet peve that bugs the holly
H%&* out of me when people call concrete block cinderblock.
What you are refering to posibally could be cinderblock because of the
age issue. Please note this comment is not directed at you but I wanted
to take this oppertunity to mention this. Even the home shows on TV use
this term and its just not right. Cinder blocks were actually mande
from cinders and looked nor performed (we know that now) nothing like
concrete block. "Cinder" block have not been made in this country for
more than 50 years yet there is a new trend (caused by the home shows)
at calling these concrete block cinder block. I have not doubt that
what you are refering to could infact be cinder block. To answer your
question without to much detail these blocks were laid on a wood form
supported from below by a series of posts or by a combination of posts
and beams. The block are then laid as you would lay brick in a side
walk or patio. They are of course filled with concrete......
warren...@gmail.com
Aug 6, 2006, 3:37:01 PM8/6/06
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I understand where you are coming from. I dont really know if the
blocks in question are cinder or concrete. I always thought cinder
blocks are the ones that have the "design" on the side that looks like
a rock or boulder, is that the case? I would guess the blocks in
question are probabaly concrete as the building was built in 1964. How
do the blocks support themselves after the wood forms are removed? Is
there any kind of beam running through the holes in the blocks to give
them support?
blocks in question are cinder or concrete. I always thought cinder
blocks are the ones that have the "design" on the side that looks like
a rock or boulder, is that the case? I would guess the blocks in
question are probabaly concrete as the building was built in 1964. How
do the blocks support themselves after the wood forms are removed? Is
there any kind of beam running through the holes in the blocks to give
them support?
Mike
Aug 6, 2006, 6:43:45 PM8/6/06
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blocks are still made today.
Phil
Aug 7, 2006, 4:18:03 AM8/7/06
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JerryD(upstateNY)
Aug 8, 2006, 7:29:41 PM8/8/06
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>>a personal pet peve that bugs the holly H%&* out of me when people call
>>concrete block cinderblock.<<
>>concrete block cinderblock.<<
Saying "cinderblock" wall and saying they have a "cement" floor in their
garage are my 2 biggest pet peeves.
How about if someone said they built a cinder block wall on a cement footing
?
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JerryD(upstateNY)
PPS
Aug 11, 2006, 7:48:53 PM8/11/06
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Interesting.
How do you tell the difference and are they as strong as concrete block?
How do you tell the difference and are they as strong as concrete block?
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Glenn
Aug 11, 2006, 10:10:51 PM8/11/06
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I have never heard of a cinder block ceiling.
One is actually made out of cinders and are almost black and the
other is white as in concrete. Used to be common back when I was
starting. No they are not as strong. Haven't seen one in years.
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Cdorton77
Sep 22, 2016, 10:14:02 PM9/22/16
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replying to dpb, Cdorton77 wrote:
Yes...I have personally seen a multi level structure with the load bearing
floors comprised of rows of block seemingly supported by the concrete poured
over it.....I was told this was due to insulative properties of the block and
is a early 1900s design....
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Yes...I have personally seen a multi level structure with the load bearing
floors comprised of rows of block seemingly supported by the concrete poured
over it.....I was told this was due to insulative properties of the block and
is a early 1900s design....
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Rhoda
Aug 26, 2017, 1:14:04 PM8/26/17
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replying to PPS, Rhoda wrote:
I'm laughing my ass off. I just stayed at Budget Inn in Herkimer NY and the
ceilings are cement block. Thus my reason for being here. You can Google the
motel and see photos for yourself.
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I'm laughing my ass off. I just stayed at Budget Inn in Herkimer NY and the
ceilings are cement block. Thus my reason for being here. You can Google the
motel and see photos for yourself.
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Chris
Apr 12, 2020, 5:14:03 PM4/12/20
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replying to warrenshudson, Chris wrote:
Basement ceiling:
https://www.google.com/search?q=einhängedecken%20beton&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACVv_1_1sxLLhHGIkAA27tJVwomaAzcPnFL2GkI7VFtyM67rCA0qELko1g-S0UAzEOvVDlQwVKlpwTHaWPQcbfSuoSwjoEl87JdqRA-KhIJANu7SVcKJmgRCN7lurrzNUwqEgkM3D5xS9hpCBF9Vus-lwYfJCoSCe1RbcjOu6wgEWkMi8mT29krKhIJNKhC5KNYPksRv7FawsdmfI8qEglFAMxDr1Q5UBFpZ9TyrHfi8ioSCcFSpacEx2ljEWln1PKsd-LyKhIJ0HG30rqEsI4Rd6B8Tz_1phVwqEgmBJfOyXakQPhFXuwkE74ZZzmEAfCaAxXJYTg&client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&prmd=sivn&hl=en&ved=0CBIQuIIBahcKEwiY9uvckOLoAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBg&biw=360&bih=560
Basement ceiling:
https://www.google.com/search?q=einhängedecken%20beton&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACVv_1_1sxLLhHGIkAA27tJVwomaAzcPnFL2GkI7VFtyM67rCA0qELko1g-S0UAzEOvVDlQwVKlpwTHaWPQcbfSuoSwjoEl87JdqRA-KhIJANu7SVcKJmgRCN7lurrzNUwqEgkM3D5xS9hpCBF9Vus-lwYfJCoSCe1RbcjOu6wgEWkMi8mT29krKhIJNKhC5KNYPksRv7FawsdmfI8qEglFAMxDr1Q5UBFpZ9TyrHfi8ioSCcFSpacEx2ljEWln1PKsd-LyKhIJ0HG30rqEsI4Rd6B8Tz_1phVwqEgmBJfOyXakQPhFXuwkE74ZZzmEAfCaAxXJYTg&client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&prmd=sivn&hl=en&ved=0CBIQuIIBahcKEwiY9uvckOLoAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBg&biw=360&bih=560
4x4 Funfar
Apr 17, 2020, 4:44:03 PM4/17/20
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replying to JerryD(upstateNY), 4x4 Funfar wrote:
> Budget Inn in Herkimer NY
‘Cement’ is GLUE! and ‘portland cement’ is used to make CONCRETE!
> Budget Inn in Herkimer NY
jay
Apr 22, 2021, 9:15:04 PM4/22/21
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KThere is two building in Taylor Nebraska 1 is the court house which this is ceiling and roof assembly, the other is a two story with a auto shop on the bottom and living area above this is a ceiling and floor assembly
John u Predmore my dad built the court house in 1956 and this building is still in use today. This assembly is built with a light weight lintel block dry stacked horizontaly to the best of what I can see. I did not see how it was done i was only two. But from what I can see there is evidence of a wood sport that the block were layed on and then grouted. I can see the the top or the reinforcement. There has to be a building design on this some place. O the other building has a span over 12 feet floor and ceiling assembly witch has to carry a forty lbs per square foot and dead load to carry the block and material's.
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John u Predmore my dad built the court house in 1956 and this building is still in use today. This assembly is built with a light weight lintel block dry stacked horizontaly to the best of what I can see. I did not see how it was done i was only two. But from what I can see there is evidence of a wood sport that the block were layed on and then grouted. I can see the the top or the reinforcement. There has to be a building design on this some place. O the other building has a span over 12 feet floor and ceiling assembly witch has to carry a forty lbs per square foot and dead load to carry the block and material's.
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For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/construction/cinder-block-ceiling-how-838-.htm
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