> Take a peek, speak your mind.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/the_specialist.geo/buffy/abe_test.htm
Whoa. Nice logo. Your absence from the nksf logo compo was not
due to lack of talent, then.
Quoting from the page here...
|
| Home
| FAQ
| Posters (sounds silly. What other word to use, though?)
[...]
People, Members, Watchers, Regs, Ramblers, The Crowd, Mattia & co.,
the possibilities are endless... :)
Anyway, it looks fine, Mattia, flesh it out at your convenience.
I guess we should start sending in our bits of personal info we
want to put up there. Gee, I have to say, it feels great *not* to
be the WebMeister for once :))
--
J o N a T H a N
WebMeister Elsewhere [tm]
i'd say no frames, repeating menu on each page, fewer risks (i say that but
i do use them myself) of getting lost
you sound pretty unsure don't you? :-)))))
well, to encourage you or give you ideas why dont you have a look at mine?
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/busybee/btvs/
see ya
busybee
Ah, work on the site has started! Good. My suggestions:
How about reviews? Patrick's made quite a lot of em and we can all
help fill in the blanks.
Do we want to provide info on the characters and actors of the show or
do we leave that to other sites?
If we do that, we could also provide info on all the monsters in
Sunnydale, but that may be a lot of work.
Sierk
"I want you to go on the 誰et."
"Oh, sure, I can do that."
--Giles and Willow, "The Harvest"
I've got a few pics of the cast. Say the word and I'll send them.
<SNIP>
>> The sections:
>> Home
>> FAQ (obviously)
>> Regs/Bios (sounds better than posters, imho)
>
>Watchers is cooler still. Or not?
My vote goes to Watchers too.
<SNIP>
>> Great Posts: This should be single posts that have achieved the
greatness
>> status. Not all to sure about this one.....
>
>One comes to mind (I'll let you guess which one..) but that's kind of
>it, really. Not sure its particularly useful.
Can't think of any other that "Cue, Ball and Trick" either. That one
deserves a place, though.
<SNIP>
Sierk
I like reviews better than episode guides. They give a nice personal
touch, but they do tend to be a bit long, perhaps to bulky for our
site? We could, as you say, do a simple, short ep guide type thing
with ratings, but I propose we at least put in some viewer comments
from the lot of us. And I'd still go for the review thingy if P@trick
and the rest are willing to let their writings be used in this way.
>> Do we want to provide info on the characters and actors of the show
or
>> do we leave that to other sites?
>
>Dunno. Its quite a lot of work, and there are plenty of other sites
out
>there. Find a good one, link to it, I'd say. We can always add that
>later.
Agreed
>> If we do that, we could also provide info on all the monsters in
>> Sunnydale, but that may be a lot of work.
>
>Indeed. It is, after all, a site for the newsgroup, not the show in a
>direct sense. We don't need all the trappings of a Buffy web site..
>
>Just had a thought: How 'bout a news page for essentialy important
>things like DVD releases and the like? I know other sites do it and
we
>get the info second (or third, or fourth..) hand, but still.
That's a good one! It takes some regular maintenance, but it keeps a
siite alive and up to date.
>Mattia
>ReplyMeister[tm]
>Getting more good ideas. Now for them profile thingies..
Fav books/movies/music perhaps? Though you could mention them under
other interests of course...
Sierk
Mattia Valente wrote:
> george van hal wrote:
> > Strange. Deja didn't pick this post up. Know whats wrong?? Anyways:
>
> Nope. Think of it; you may be missing more of my immense wisdom!
> Shocking, isn't it?
It's really weird. Deja used to take in *all* the posts, and now it just sorta
doesn't. It seems that anything that got posted after midnight didn't register
anymore. Really weird......
> > <excited> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!!!!! </excited>
>
> :-))
>
> > As you know, I was really looking forward to the abe page. Anyways my
> > plans and ideas (i.e. my comments ;-)) are as follows:
>
> Figured as much, that last reaction sort of gave it away ;-)
Indeed. Gotta keep that excitement on check in the future :-)
> > First up the logo: Looks really good. Although I'd like to play around
> > with it a bit. See what I can get out of it in photoshop. So, if you
> > don't mind, and if you do: though luck ;-)
>
> ;-) Good. I got your modded logos, I'll take a peek at them later. Nice
> btw..I was planning on doing something similar myself, but I a)don't
> have any good Buffy pics (anywhere..too lazy to download. I have a
> couple of zip files worth of AH pics thanks to you-know-who though :))
> and b)crap software on this PC. Gonna do some fooling of my own at home,
> although its pretty good so far..gotta go get me some buffy pics. Know a
> good site for that? Pics of whole cast etc. not just SMG or whatever..
Erm...I'm thinking pretty much any site would do. The internet is flooded with
Buffy pics.....
Just do a search or go to one of the "big" sites and get something there.....
Ravens Realm has some pics, me thinks....not sure though.
> > I'll start working on some
> > alternate logo options (same set-up. More efectsy) later this day. See
> > what I can come up with and stuffs.
>
> Results lookin good. All nice, dunno which is best. Sorta depends on the
> rest of the site design, I guess ;-)
Precisely. I liked the bleu-ish one best, myself. But that could really get,
well, sort of ugly looking if the design doesn't fit. Could make more though,
once we have a coulor scheme for the site.....
> > Lay-out: I like frames. So I definatly vote for a frames lay-out.
>
> Frames it is then..A non frame version takes just a few minutes after
> the frames version is complete. Remove a few tags, copy and paste, and
> its done..Gonna want some people to test run it for bugs (people that
> use IE, Linux and the like especially..)
We have reached agreement then. Yay us!
> > The sections:
> > Home
> > FAQ (obviously)
> > Regs/Bios (sounds better than posters, imho)
>
> Watchers is cooler still. Or not?
Well, yes. But that's watchers of the show. Doesn't really have anything to do
with the group anymore. So we need to go with posters/regulars/regular posters
or other apropriate words that have sort of the same meaning.......
> > Top20 Charts (really good idea, that. Archiving the things. Really nice
> > way to look up who was active in the group and when)
>
> Right. Pesky Deja can be annoying sometimes ;-)
Well, yes ;-) Also, this is a lot quicker than counting all the archived Deja
posts ;-)
> > Transcripts (People ask for 'em a lot, so why not just put 'em up on our
> > site??)
>
> If I can get permission to do so, yes. I'll mail the guy who makes em
> (AleXander or something, right? Or the Pscyhe guy..) and ask. That's my
> main issue, am I allowed to do it?
AleXander did the first three seasons (I think) untill FOX kicked him of the
web. He used to have a problem with people putting the Transcipts up, and aksed
them to just link to 'em 'cause he kept regularly updating them. They're of the
net now, and now we have those new transcripts of s4, which suck imho (compared
to the AleXander ones, that is). Really too bad that AleXanders work has been
pulled offline. The guy spent a LOT of time making those things and all. Plus
he was a really nice guy (spoke to him, over the net, on a few occasions..).
But, alas, such is the way of FOX.....
> > Now for the proposed sections:
> >
> > Quotes seems a nice section as well. I mean, I think all of us have
> > posted something memorable along the way. It could add to the fun-ness of
> > it all if those quotes went up on the site. Propose JB for sorting this
> > section, btw.
>
> I have a feeling he's got a good deal on file already....
Me thinks so as well, yes......
> > Memorable threads: <SNIP>
>
> OK, sounds reasonable. Again, though, I'll need help making selections
> from the great and intelligent discussions that have been had in the
> past. We shall see. I'd say start with the first few categories and take
> it from there.
Well, once we get that (and other) sections started we can have content
discussions about which threads we do and don't want remembered and the
such.....
> > Great Posts: This should be single posts that have achieved the greatness
> > status. Not all to sure about this one.....
>
> One comes to mind (I'll let you guess which one..) but that's kind of
> it, really. Not sure its particularly useful.
Nope. Not too sure either. We could allways place a link to those posts in the
memorable threads section. We could of course also archive those posts. Don't
think that there'll actually be a lot. Still not too sure though. Anyone else
have an opinion on this??
> > Trade Marks unlimited: Every time we trade mark something, we should put
> > it up in this section. Should keep things easier to follow for all of us
> > (most trade marked words (i.e. LRT [tm] , Flood of Valente [tm]) can't be
> > understood if you missed something.) Seems it would be nice to be able to
> > read back some of the old [tm]-ed words and look up some of the newer
> > ones.....
>
> So, keep that seperate from the FAQ, because its so, um, silly? What
> should be in the FAQ, anyway? Just a posting guide, rules about what's
> appropriate, what isn't, etc. etc.? I'd guess yes, since the other stuff
> (links) are in a defferent section.
That seems to be it. Keeping the FAQ basic seems a good plan. People who only
want to read the rules are better suited than, *plus* no one who doesn't want
to, has to be confronted with the silly things in this group......
> > Than, of course, we need an OT-section for a lot of the sillyness in
> > here. To me, abe is, apart from a great group to have in-depth ep
> > discussions, a fun group to sort of fool around in from time to time (LRT
> > [tm] anyone?).
>
> Well, me for one. P@trick on occasion. Not sure about the rest. They
> seemed to get a little annyed last time we tried :))
Indeed. Not that that's gonna stop me next time. I mean, once they have that
'If we can't beat them, join them' sentiment down more fun is pretty much
guaranteed ;-))
> > Not sure what this would entail though....
>
> Doesn't matter. Something like 'Quote of the Month' or some such
> ridiculous subheading. Also, a section for any comletely idiot thing
> people want to point out. Oh, and how abot a guestbook? That's sort of
> fun, right?
Yup. Allways does well. Only, this is a newsgroup website. The newsgroup itself
is sorta our guestbook, right? I mean anyone going there must've heard about
a.b.e. or they wouldn't really bother, right??
> > Anyways, now for the Bios:
> >
> > The sections as Mattia posted them seem complete. Anything else one would
> > want to say goes into the 'Other Interests' Category.
>
> That's the power of generalization. Can't say I really excluded anything
> :-))
Precisely. Nice job, that ;-)
> > Well, thats really sort of it for me...going to do those logo's (if
> > nothing else comes up) and see where that takes me. So thats sort of
> > it......
>
> You said that twice. In consective sentences. I think we get the
> point...
Grrrr.....
> toodeloo!
<jumps backward> What kind of hideous sound was that?? <looks around eyes wide
with shock> Oh....it's only Mattia.....
;-))
See Ya,
George
OK, ok...waiting for pseky mail prggy to download them (again) and I'll
put them up under the original ones.
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Just got in from Paris, needs to watch doomed, gonna answer some threads
first though :-)) Oh, and this day gets better: I got my propadeuse! Yay
me!
Well, no bulk isn't an issue (text is small) its just a lot of work. If
people are willing to do it, I'll incorporate it, no problem whatsoever.
> with ratings, but I propose we at least put in some viewer comments
> from the lot of us. And I'd still go for the review thingy if P@trick
> and the rest are willing to let their writings be used in this way.
We can do both. Again, this is for later, IMHO. First the FAQ and the
profiles.
> >Just had a thought: How 'bout a news page for essentialy important
> >things like DVD releases and the like? I know other sites do it and we
> >get the info second (or third, or fourth..) hand, but still.
>
> That's a good one! It takes some regular maintenance, but it keeps a
> siite alive and up to date.
Shouldn't be too much of a problem/hard work. Posting minor updates is
easy, and I, among others here, am always keeping an eye out for stuff
like that :-)
> >Mattia
> >ReplyMeister[tm]
> >Getting more good ideas. Now for them profile thingies..
>
> Fav books/movies/music perhaps? Though you could mention them under
> other interests of course...
We'll think of something...you can always add later.
Mattia
PostMeister[tm]
Ahhh...microshaft...nope, refuse. Sorry ;-) I just work on cross the
board compatibility myself :-))
> dunno what i can do to make it work on netscape thougnh
No clue. Usually stick to the basic color table for text colors...
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
"The Word"
;-))
> <SNIP>
>
> >> The sections:
> >> Home
> >> FAQ (obviously)
> >> Regs/Bios (sounds better than posters, imho)
> >
> >Watchers is cooler still. Or not?
>
> My vote goes to Watchers too.
OK, that's one against one (I'm abstaining.) Anyone else?
> Can't think of any other that "Cue, Ball and Trick" either. That one
> deserves a place, though.
Ooh. Idea. Awards!
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
OK, not like awards are original, but still...
Mattia Valente wrote:
> Fuzzy wrote:
> > Hey, we all wanne see this! Mattia, could you put them on the site? We
> > could vote for the one we like best (as they're doing in nksf).
> >
> > Sierk
>
> OK, ok...waiting for pseky mail prggy to download them (again) and I'll
> put them up under the original ones.
Interesting. Anyone else gonna make some? Should be nice to have lots to
pick from......
> Mattia
> ReplyMeister[tm]
> Just got in from Paris, needs to watch doomed, gonna answer some threads
> first though :-)) Oh, and this day gets better: I got my propadeuse! Yay
> me!
<starts handing out party hats> Yay mattia!!! Congrats, man! Hope I'll be
able to post something along similar lines next year....
See Ya,
George
Coming your way now
>
>;-))
>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> >> The sections:
>> >> Home
>> >> FAQ (obviously)
>> >> Regs/Bios (sounds better than posters, imho)
>> >
>> >Watchers is cooler still. Or not?
>>
>> My vote goes to Watchers too.
>
>OK, that's one against one (I'm abstaining.) Anyone else?
>
>> Can't think of any other that "Cue, Ball and Trick" either. That
one
>> deserves a place, though.
>
>Ooh. Idea. Awards!
Good one! Stolen from nksf I'll wager, but "beter goed gejat dan
slecht verzonnen" :)
>
>Mattia
>ReplyMeister[tm]
>OK, not like awards are original, but still...
Oh, you said it yourself already.. :)
Sierk
Cool!
>Mattia
>ReplyMeister[tm]
>Just got in from Paris, needs to watch doomed, gonna answer some
threads
>first though :-)) Oh, and this day gets better: I got my propadeuse!
Yay
>me!
Congrats!
Sierk
"Is everything in order for the party?"
-- Giles, "Surprise"
ok, ill try and change it some time this month
busybee
Got em...thanks, BTW...lets see what I can do with em now (other than
start my collection. Weird, actually. Have a lot of movie clips and the
like, hardly any static images..;-)
> >Ooh. Idea. Awards!
>
> Good one! Stolen from nksf I'll wager, but "beter goed gejat dan
> slecht verzonnen" :)
Well, more or less, yeah. :-)
> >OK, not like awards are original, but still...
>
> Oh, you said it yourself already.. :)
Indeed..
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Shockingly, I forgot to sign the last message I posted. Scary, huh?
They're up. Same URL, but I'll give it to you guys anyway :-)
www.geocities.com/the_specialist.geo/buffy/abe_test.htm
> > Just got in from Paris, needs to watch doomed, gonna answer some threads
> > first though :-)) Oh, and this day gets better: I got my propadeuse! Yay
> > me!
>
> <starts handing out party hats> Yay mattia!!! Congrats, man! Hope I'll be
> able to post something along similar lines next year....
Thanks! And thanks to Fuzzy as well (not going to compulsively answer
that post as well, little too much, that. He had the better quote though
:-)
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Damn S5 trailer thing is invalid movie or smoething...gonna haveta watch
it online or try again some other time...
> I'm voting for Watchers. Because that's what we do: watch the shows. And
> it's very fitting for obvious reasons. Some categories for the profiles:
> most loved/hated character (and why), Buffyisms used in daily life, favorite
> quote(s).
Yes. But post is what we do *here*. Which is why I think watchers is to "broad".
Ah well, I can *live* with watchers ;-)
> I think the SpoilerFAQ fits nicely into the FAQ category. But if that's
> gonna be the only thing in the FAQ, we might as well call it 'Spoiler
> Policy' or something.
Nope Language tags, other rules (?) as well methinks.....
> The links section should be extensive. A lot of links, but no links to
> crappy sites. I know some links to AH sites btw ;o)
Me too! Me too!
> We could just give the link to the transcript site. No need to put
> transcripts on our site. Maybe a pointer in the FAQ as well.
Hmm. Could be a good plan, that......
> Another idea: maybe Jonathan can find a fitting quote for every section.
> This can go on the top of the page of that section.
Ouh! Yes! Good plan! Jonathan?
> In general: I think we should make this an alt.buffy.europe site, and not
> another Buffy and Angel site.
Agree much....
See Ya,
George
Feeling tired, not sure if he's gonna do more replying today.....
:-))
> > I'm voting for Watchers. Because that's what we do: watch the shows. And
> > it's very fitting for obvious reasons. Some categories for the profiles:
> > most loved/hated character (and why), Buffyisms used in daily life, favorite
> > quote(s).
>
> Yes. But post is what we do *here*. Which is why I think watchers is to "broad".
> Ah well, I can *live* with watchers ;-)
I guess you'll have to. Its you against, well, 2 other people (or is it
3 now? I dunno..:-))
> > I think the SpoilerFAQ fits nicely into the FAQ category. But if that's
> > gonna be the only thing in the FAQ, we might as well call it 'Spoiler
> > Policy' or something.
>
> Nope Language tags, other rules (?) as well methinks.....
Right. Posting Rules, maybe? That sort of covers a lot, like the
language tags, which should be in there..
> > The links section should be extensive. A lot of links, but no links to
> > crappy sites. I know some links to AH sites btw ;o)
>
> Me too! Me too!
Well, send it over and I'll compare lists. I'm guessing hannigan.com is
close to the top of both lists..;-)
> > We could just give the link to the transcript site. No need to put
> > transcripts on our site. Maybe a pointer in the FAQ as well.
>
> Hmm. Could be a good plan, that......
Right. All the transcripts again are a little bit overkill, IMHO.
> > Another idea: maybe Jonathan can find a fitting quote for every section.
> > This can go on the top of the page of that section.
>
> Ouh! Yes! Good plan! Jonathan?
There aren't that many sections. Maybe we could answer questions from
the FAQ with quotes? :))
> > In general: I think we should make this an alt.buffy.europe site, and not
> > another Buffy and Angel site.
>
> Agree much....
Ditto...sort of working on it. Can't seem to decide what font to use for
the category headings. Its either the Angel font or Viner or just plain
boring Arial or something. Buffy font looks, well, silly for this
purpose.
> See Ya,
> George
> Feeling tired, not sure if he's gonna do more replying today.....
Oh, give it a shot, will ya? There's not that much there, really. Focus
on the Angel stuff...
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Willow: "Well, Porter dorm is completely blacked out. So naturally they
are dealing with the crisis the only way they know how: 'Aftershock
Party'."
Buffy: "Ah, this from the dorm that brought us the 'Somebody Sneezed'
party and the 'Day That Ends in Y' party."
Willow: "They do seem to be pretty generous with the milestones."
--Doomed, BtVS
> > Another idea: maybe Jonathan can find a fitting quote for
> > every section. This can go on the top of the page of that
> > section.
>
> Ouh! Yes! Good plan! Jonathan?
QuoteMeister on demand now, is it? ;-)) OK... you mean the sort
of thing like...
"Look at all the people.
Are these nice people?"
--Drusilla, `School Hard'
... for the People (Watchers, whatever) section?
> > In general: I think we should make this an alt.buffy.europe
> > site, and not another Buffy and Angel site.
>
> Agree much....
Yeah, that's what I think too. No point in trying to do
everything like actually hosting copies of the transcripts or
making a whole episode guide or monsters guide. Linking to stuff
like that should suffice and make your own content be about the
newsgroup first and foremost. Unless, of course, Mattia has too
much time on his hands...
;-)
Uh, yeah, that's it..
> "Look at all the people.
> Are these nice people?"
> --Drusilla, `School Hard'
>
> ... for the People (Watchers, whatever) section?
Yup! Added about 2 seconds ago and uploaded :)
> > Agree much....
>
> Yeah, that's what I think too. No point in trying to do
> everything like actually hosting copies of the transcripts or
> making a whole episode guide or monsters guide. Linking to stuff
> like that should suffice and make your own content be about the
> newsgroup first and foremost. Unless, of course, Mattia has too
> much time on his hands...
Noo..not really (the too much time thing.) Hae enough other websites,
studies, etc. etc. to keep me busy. Not to mention posting ;)
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Right...thanks for that. I was actually looking at it backwards (thought
I had the short f's, not the long ones..).. go change it soon, you
should se the revamped (hehe) logo up later on this week. I'm gonna be
kinda busy cramming for Monday's deeltoets this weekend, methinks. Funny
nobody noticed that/mentioned it earlier...
> For choice of logo: top right is basically a logo, the shape,
> the design you should stick with (once you corrected the second
> f). The others are implementations of the logo, suitable for
OK, ok, I'll correct the second F :-)
> specific situations only. You wouldn't put second row left in a
> letterhead. For a web site, I'd probably choose an embossed
> logo, like second row left, but without the picture background.
Okidoki..you've looked at the new page by now, I take it..I need to
change the big logo on the home page, but I'm going to stick with the
(modified) small one top left.
> MV: where you got the Angel font from?
http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/Fonts/
I think...I just typed Buffy Font in Yahoo and came up with this
page..(and a few other fonts I haven't unzipped or looked at..)
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]