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P@rick

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Dec 23, 2000, 3:51:20 PM12/23/00
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I'm speechless...

***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the moment you have all been waiting for. This
episode had it's reputation advancing way ahead of it. And I say it did
live up to it's reputation.

For one thing, this ep was high on comedy. It puts the comedy in horror-
comedy. For another thing, it was reasonably high on story development
as well. Introduction of a new character, deepening of the Xander/Anya
relationship, Buffy and Riley finally kissing, Buffy and Riley's coming
out (well, not completely, the last scene looked like laryngitis had
struck once again...) and Giles who is now afraid that his leisure
activities might scare away his orgas... I mean girlfriend.

Let's start with Buffy's dream. It left me rather confused. I can't make
much of it. Funny little thing Walsh says about Buffy: "A typical
college girl, one assumes." Then, Riley says his kiss will make the sun
go down, and apparently it does. I always knew that B/R smoochies could
only lead to trouble. When they kiss for real later on, it doesn't seem
to have any repercussions (safe for some viewers switching channels).
And Buffy says "fortune favors the brave". Twice. Maybe she is talking
about Riley and herself; a Slayer and a paramilitary commando, both of
which can be considered brave. But I don't get the fortune part. I think
I'll join Giles in his 'the eternal mystery that is Buffy's brain'
explanation.

Another mystery is why it's taking Buffy and Riley so damned long before
they get to the smoochies. At this rate they'll sooner be confessing
their secret identities to each other. As we saw in the 'petroleum'
scene, words get in the way. "I get nervous and I start babbling and he
starts babbling and it's a babblefest". And the fact that they both have
a secret identity to hide from the other doesn't help as well. So when
they both lose their voice it's the perfect opportunity to....? Right,
head for the lips. I loved the way Buffy subtly snapped that guy's wrist
when she approached Riley BTW.

And without braking any code of silence, they both lose their secret
identity to each other. A nifty move by Joss: just bring them both
together in a fight while they're speechless. And let the expression on
their faces speak volumes. Great little moment. And no time to stay in
surprised shock while some goons are pounding away on you.
Buffy and Riley have got a lot to talk about. I could just see Riley
thinking: "I didn't know Buffy took karate". But they didn't talk in
this ep (which I expected them to do). I'm guessing they'll both come up
with some lame explanations in the next ep.

One thing was odd though. Why did Riley patrol on his own? Seems rather
sloppy and dangerous in the given situation. Let alone entering a
suspicious building without backup or means to reach them. Is that what
they teach at commando-school these days?

The Gentlemen were genuinely scary. The way they kept smiling insanely
with their silver teeth, floating a few inches above the ground,
pursuing victims slowly but persistently.And the wonderful score by
Chris Beck only added to the suspense.
They were hiding in the clock tower. It seemed that they started each
tour de coeur an hour later, starting with one o' clock (although from
the inside, the indicators showed a different time).

The Scooby Briefing thing was done perfectly. Music choise was
excellent. The whole scene was full of greatness: Giles' slide show
(anticipating the questions from the audience), Anya with the
popcorn/cinema attitude, Buffy's hand gesture ('nuff said) and being
offended by her 'fat' portrayal, Willow getting all excited about giving
the right answer, Xander mistaking hearts for boobies. Come to think of
it, Oz (sigh) would have fit perfectly in this scene (sigh again).

Please let me comment on Willow in this ep (here he goes again..). The
magic she works with her facial expression... it was highlighted even
more in this textless ep. It reminded me yet again why I love her so
much. For instance, when she greeted Giles in written form, her look was
to die for. And so was the ensuing hug with Giles. The second since DGL,
but this time very tender and loving.
When she walked the street earlier on with Buffy, I was reminded of the
way VampWilllow walks in DGL (when she's all confused at the beginning
of the ep). But maybe this is only apparent to those of us who can spell
every Willow scene like me ;o)

The introduction of Tara was rather inventive. I like her already. She's
a
perfect friend for Willow, although she does make Willow look like Miss
Self Confidence '99. From what I've seen, Tara has much greater powers
than Willow. But Tara speaks differently. Or does she just mean she
finds Willow special as a person? Anyway, I can see the two of them
becoming close friends. And it's good for Willow to have an experienced
witch to discover new grounds with.
That might get her mind off from mourning about Oz. A positive thing is
that Willow seems to have learned from her mistakes ("Besides... spells
going awry, friends in danger..."). And she seemed a lot more upbeat
than in previous eps. It looks like she's trying to pick up her life
again.

Anya introduces the term 'orgasm friend'. Of course Spike uses this to
get to Xander. Spike is very perceptive and sarcastically funny. Ah
well, if he can't pose a real threat, then let him be sarcastically
funny. And it's good to see that Spike is getting more and more used to
that dreaded sunlight. Oh wait.. no it's not.
It seems that The Writers want the X/A thing to grow more meaningful, as
they gave Anya doubts about the relationship and made Xander prove his
feelings for her (at the expense of poor Spike).

I loved this ep! It was funny *and* scary. It's been a while since BtVS
accomplished that. The best scenes were acted without a single line of
text. Now that's a sure sign of class. Not that I needed confirmation on
the Greatness of Buffy. This ep started some nice story developments.
Let's see how they continue.


Bye, Patrick
--
Keeper of the Willowism, "And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be
damned!"
Keeper of the Wily Willow Charms
ThreadMaker [tm]
ReviewMeister [tm]

Jan Van Damme

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Dec 29, 2000, 8:59:24 AM12/29/00
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In article <9234q2$j5d$1...@news.surfnet.nl>, "P@rick"

> The Scooby Briefing thing was done perfectly. Music choise was
> excellent. The whole scene was full of greatness: Giles' slide show
> (anticipating the questions from the audience), Anya with the
> popcorn/cinema attitude, Buffy's hand gesture ('nuff said) and being
> offended by her 'fat' portrayal, Willow getting all excited about giving
> the right answer, Xander mistaking hearts for boobies. Come to think of
> it, Oz (sigh) would have fit perfectly in this scene (sigh again).


Great scene indeed. Saw the episode 2 weeks ago on a Belgian commercial
channel and last week on the BBC and noticed that the BBC had cut in the
scene: they removed part of the shot with Buffy's hand gesture...

Later on they also made some cuts in some fighting scene's...


Jan.

P@rick

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Dec 30, 2000, 7:40:06 PM12/30/00
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Jan Van Damme wrote:

> Great scene indeed. Saw the episode 2 weeks ago on a Belgian
commercial
> channel and last week on the BBC and noticed that the BBC had cut in
the
> scene: they removed part of the shot with Buffy's hand gesture...
>
> Later on they also made some cuts in some fighting scene's...

The hand gesture was there on the Friday night repeat. I think. Actually
not too sure all of the sudden. But I'm 99% sure. The Thursday night
version was cut pretty badly. But not in a disturbing way for first time
viewers, I think.


Bye, Patrick


Fré Hoogendoorn

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Jan 2, 2001, 4:22:49 AM1/2/01
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it wasn't, because I was looking for it after
the nightmare that was BBC version of the episode on the Thursday.
Incredible how many cuts they made in that, and now it seems that even
the Friday evening ep was not completely uncensored. Note that the
announcer usually says something like "Buffy, uncut" beforehand, and
they didn't this time.

Fré

Jan Van Damme

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Jan 2, 2001, 6:41:30 PM1/2/01
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>
> The hand gesture was there on the Friday night repeat. I think. Actually
> not too sure all of the sudden. But I'm 99% sure. The Thursday night
> version was cut pretty badly. But not in a disturbing way for first time
> viewers, I think.

No, you're correct, not if you haven't seen the full version... However
it's little things like these that make BtVS fun to watch, they add to
the series...

Jan.

Arkasha

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Jan 4, 2001, 2:31:27 PM1/4/01
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"P@rick" schreef :

> I'm speechless...
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I know it's a bit late, but i feel like commenting. Time be damned!

> Ladies and Gentlemen, the moment you have all been waiting for. This
> episode had it's reputation advancing way ahead of it. And I say it did
> live up to it's reputation.
>
> For one thing, this ep was high on comedy.

I rewatched it after some time and was surpriced at the amount of comedy. I
had mostly remembered it for the scary gentlemen and the Willow-Tara
interaction.

<snip>


> Let's start with Buffy's dream.

I love all those cryptic dream sequences. Especially the children's rhyme
was creepy. Reminded me of Nightmare on Elmstreet.

<snip>

> And without braking any code of silence, they both lose their secret
> identity to each other. A nifty move by Joss: just bring them both
> together in a fight while they're speechless. And let the expression on
> their faces speak volumes. Great little moment. And no time to stay in
> surprised shock while some goons are pounding away on you.

Priceless.

<snip>


> One thing was odd though. Why did Riley patrol on his own? Seems rather
> sloppy and dangerous in the given situation. Let alone entering a
> suspicious building without backup or means to reach them. Is that what
> they teach at commando-school these days?

To make the scene you mentioned above happen.
It's a thing i notice more and more in Buffy: writers making slightly
illogical scenes/choices to make other scenes better, or just to move the
plot along. The inconsistencies are never bad to enough jump out at you, but
when you look closely at what happens, a lot of little things don't really
make sense.

> The Gentlemen were genuinely scary. The way they kept smiling insanely
> with their silver teeth, floating a few inches above the ground,
> pursuing victims slowly but persistently.And the wonderful score by
> Chris Beck only added to the suspense.

When they're about the cut that student-guy's heart out, it really creeped
me out. The way he couldn't scream, it's such a natural impulse, i almost
wanted to scream for him.

<snip excellent Giles debriefing scene>
<snip Willow droolage>

> The introduction of Tara was rather inventive. I like her already. She's
> a
> perfect friend for Willow, although she does make Willow look like Miss
> Self Confidence '99.

I painful to she someone *so* shy. Her stutter must make her very
self-conscious about speaking to others. When the obligation to speak is
taken away she finds the courage to reach out to Willow. That must have
been a whole step for her.

> From what I've seen, Tara has much greater powers
> than Willow. But Tara speaks differently. Or does she just mean she
> finds Willow special as a person? Anyway, I can see the two of them
> becoming close friends. And it's good for Willow to have an experienced
> witch to discover new grounds with.

Tara definitely has more experience, but it's not very clear about her
powers. We've seen that together they can do a lot more than Willow on her
own. We can't say for sure whether Tara adds a lot to it, or that Tara's
presence enables Willow's power to come out. I'm thinking Willow is a lot
more powerful than she thinks, she just needs to tap into them.

> That might get her mind off from mourning about Oz. A positive thing is
> that Willow seems to have learned from her mistakes ("Besides... spells
> going awry, friends in danger..."). And she seemed a lot more upbeat
> than in previous eps. It looks like she's trying to pick up her life
> again.

Willow happy-> me happy

> Anya introduces the term 'orgasm friend'. Of course Spike uses this to
> get to Xander. Spike is very perceptive and sarcastically funny. Ah
> well, if he can't pose a real threat, then let him be sarcastically
> funny.

Spike had some killer scene this ep.

Giles: I thought vampires were supposed to eat blood.
Spike: Yep. Well sometimes I like to crumble up the wheat-a-bits in the
blood - give it a little texture.
Giles: Since the picture you just painted means I will never touch food of
any kind again, you'll just have to pick it up yourself.
Spike: Sissy.

Spike: Oh, we're not your friends. Go on.

Spike: I'm not having these two shag while I'm tied to a chair three feet
away

Spike: (in a high-pitched voice) Xander, don't you care about me?
Xander: Shut up!
Spike: We never talk.
Xander: Shut up!
Spike: Xaaannnder.
Xander: Shut up!

> It seems that The Writers want the X/A thing to grow more meaningful, as
> they gave Anya doubts about the relationship and made Xander prove his
> feelings for her (at the expense of poor Spike).

That scene is simply hilarious. Xander's expression when he sees that Anya
is alright. The way he "apologizes" to Spike. Anya clear suggestion what she
and Xander should do next.

> I loved this ep! It was funny *and* scary. It's been a while since BtVS
> accomplished that. The best scenes were acted without a single line of
> text. Now that's a sure sign of class. Not that I needed confirmation on
> the Greatness of Buffy. This ep started some nice story developments.
> Let's see how they continue.
>
>
> Bye, Patrick


Arkasha


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Joost Nagtegaal

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"Arkasha" <arkas...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>"P@rick" schreef :
>> I'm speechless...
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>> ***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
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<snippalot>


>Giles: I thought vampires were supposed to eat blood.
>Spike: Yep. Well sometimes I like to crumble up the wheat-a-bits in the
>blood - give it a little texture.

It's Weetabix, actually. A kind of cereal pressed together like a
block. Quite common in the UK, usually soakes in milk (or blood, in
this case).

JN
NitpickMeister[tm]?

P@rick

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Arkasha wrote:
> "P@rick" schreef :

> > The introduction of Tara was rather inventive. I like her already.
> > She's a perfect friend for Willow, although she does make Willow
look
> > like Miss Self Confidence '99.

> I painful to she someone *so* shy. Her stutter must make her very
> self-conscious about speaking to others. When the obligation to speak
is
> taken away she finds the courage to reach out to Willow. That must
have
> been a whole step for her.

And she's not the only one where words got in the way. Buffy and Riley
finally opened up to each other when they weren't able to speak.
Sometimes it's just better to just shut up (and kiss).


> Tara definitely has more experience, but it's not very clear about her
> powers. We've seen that together they can do a lot more than Willow on
> her own. We can't say for sure whether Tara adds a lot to it, or that
> Tara's presence enables Willow's power to come out. I'm thinking
> Willow is a lot more powerful than she thinks, she just needs to tap
into
> them.

Because Tara is more experienced, I tend to believe her when she says
that Willow is powerful and special. So I think that Tara helped Willow
to focus and direct her powers.


> Willow happy-> me happy

To the point and very true.


Bye, Patrick

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