[7x11] New Buffy Bets
Gunnar Harboe
alt.buffy.europe)
An opportunity to bet on upcoming S7 plot twists
SPOILERS FOR 7x11
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For rules, old bets and general blather, see below.
NEW BETS
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10. By resurrecting Buffy in 'Bargaining' (6x01), the Scoobies created
the opportunity for The First Evil to destroy the Slayer line forever.
YES 1.3
NO 4.0
11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
YES 2.0
NO 2.0
[*]: For the purposes of this bet, I will have the final say on whether
an episode is filler or not. As a general guide, I would class 5
episodes so far this season as filler/non-arc. Namely 'Lessons' (7x01),
'Same Time, Same Place' (7x03), 'Help' (7x04), 'Selfless' (7x05) and
'Him' (7x06).
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OK, this wasn't a massive success last time, but a few people seemed to
enjoy it. I do encourage people to join in: part of the point is to see
how many people believe the different theories and speculations that
abound on the UK Buffy groups, and how strongly they believe them
(measured in how much they're willing to bet).
You're encouraged to explain your bet, but please stay away from things
that may be spoilers to those up-to-date on US-transmitted episodes
(e.g. upcoming episode titles, cast info and info from shooting
scripts). Don't even hint at such knowledge, because that may be a
metaspoiler itself.
RULES:
Each player starts out with 1000 Sunnydollars (SD). These can then be
bet on any of the wagers offered, by posting a response on either
alt.buffy.europe or uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer. Each player must be able
to cover each bet (if you already have bet all your money, you'll have
to wait until some of your wagers are decided before you can put money
on another bet). Keep track of your own money, I can't be bothered to.
Betting is suspended from Sunday before each new episode until further
notice, and bets can be closed at any time. I decide the outcome of each
bet (which may include cancelling the bet, giving each players their
stakes back, if the outcome is inconclusive). Odds are given in decimal
fashion; e.g. 5.3 means that if you bet 10 SD, you'll get 53 SD
(including your stake back) if you win.
OLD BETS
>1. Giles is dead.
>YES 3.0
>NO 1.5
>
>2. Dawn's vision of Joyce was The First Evil.
>YES 1.5
>NO 3.0
>
>3. Buffy's visions of Joyce are The First Evil.
>YES 3.0
>NO 1.5
>
>4. The apocalypses on 'Buffy' and 'Angel' are related.
>YES 4.0
>NO 1.3
>
>5. Principal Wood is under the influence of The First Evil.
>YES 1.5
>NO 3.0
>
>6. Principal Wood represents some organisation/power with their own agenda.
>YES 1.5
>NO 3.0
>
>7. Andrew is going to get killed this season.
>YES 1.5
>NO 3.0
>
>8. Xander and Anya will get back together.
>YES 1.3
>NO 4.0
>
>9. Principal Wood is on a mission that will turn out to be about Dawn.
>YES 4.0
>NO 1.3
Robzinski
Yes. I reckon it will boil down to being Willows fault. And that she's the
only one with the power to stop it, which i swhy she was targeted as the
first Suicide victim.
> 11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
> YES 2.0
> NO 2.0
Taking what you've igven as examples, then no. We'll probably see a fair
few episodes of Giles venturing off to round up new slayers, until Faith
returns that is.
> OLD BETS
>> 1. Giles is dead.
>> YES 3.0
>> NO 1.5
Nope
>> 2. Dawn's vision of Joyce was The First Evil.
>> YES 1.5
>> NO 3.0
Nope
>> 3. Buffy's visions of Joyce are The First Evil.
>> YES 3.0
>> NO 1.5
Nope
>> 4. The apocalypses on 'Buffy' and 'Angel' are related.
>> YES 4.0
>> NO 1.3
Yep, but probably will only be acknowledged through Faith. Her
re-appearence in Angel will probably come to ahead after she gets attacked
in jail, breaks out and goes to Angel for help. Angel being bad and all(So
I hear, I've not watched Angel since S2, she then goes to seek Buffy)
>> 5. Principal Wood is under the influence of The First Evil.
>> YES 1.5
>> NO 3.0
Nope
>> 6. Principal Wood represents some organisation/power with their own
>> agenda. YES 1.5
>> NO 3.0
Yep
>> 7. Andrew is going to get killed this season.
>> YES 1.5
>> NO 3.0
Nooooo! He's been humourous this season!
>> 8. Xander and Anya will get back together.
>> YES 1.3
>> NO 4.0
Can't see it myself
>> 9. Principal Wood is on a mission that will turn out to be about
>> Dawn.
>> YES 4.0
>> NO 1.3
Nah, its bound to be about Buffy. Why else would he hire her?
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Gunnar Harboe
>no
>Nope
>Nope
>Nope
>Yep
>Nope
>Yep
>Nooooo!
>Can't see it myself
Excellent. If you want to bet, though, you should probably indicate how
much money you wish to place on each of those guesses. You have 1000 SD,
but don't spend it all at once!
Christopher G Brannigan
"Gunnar Harboe" <gh...@cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> (This message is crossposted to uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer and
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>
> An opportunity to bet on upcoming S7 plot twists
>
just watching it....then I'll be right with you....
George van Hal
Gunnar Harboe wrote:
> (This message is crossposted to uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer and
> alt.buffy.europe)
>
> An opportunity to bet on upcoming S7 plot twists
Wanted to do this last time, but didn't get around to it. So I guess
now's as good a time as any ;-)
I might as well start with the old bets.
> OLD BETS
>
>>1. Giles is dead.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
I'll go with a 'NO' on this one. Because of the lousy odds, I'll bet 20 SD
>>2. Dawn's vision of Joyce was The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
Ah, better. I'll again go with 'NO' on this one, for 50 SD.
>>3. Buffy's visions of Joyce are The First Evil.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
I'd have to say 'No' as well, but I'm not placing any bets.
>>4. The apocalypses on 'Buffy' and 'Angel' are related.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
Don't think so, although I do think it's kinda lame that we're having
apacolypses on both shows. Like the one in Buffy better though, btw.
>>5. Principal Wood is under the influence of The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
I think 'NO'. I think he's got something to do with it, possibly knows
the first evil or was under its control at some point, but I don't think
he is now. I'm not too sure about this one though, so I'll wait to bet
on this.
>>6. Principal Wood represents some organisation/power with their own
agenda.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
Here I think it's 'YES'. But I'm still not sure enoguh and the odds suck
ass ;-)
>>7. Andrew is going to get killed this season.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
I'm thinking 'NO'. I'll place 20 SD on that bet.
>>8. Xander and Anya will get back together.
>>YES 1.3
>>NO 4.0
Oh, I'm thinking a wholehearted 'No' here, and it'd suck if they did.
I'm placing 100 SD on this one.
>>9. Principal Wood is on a mission that will turn out to be about Dawn.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
Heh. I think 'NO'. But, look at those odds. So, nah, not going in for
this one ;-)
> NEW BETS
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-
Woo! ;-)
> 10. By resurrecting Buffy in 'Bargaining' (6x01), the Scoobies created
> the opportunity for The First Evil to destroy the Slayer line forever.
> YES 1.3
> NO 4.0
Well, apareantly. I'm most definately thinking 'YES'. So I guess I might
ass well place at least some money on this lousy bet ;-). 30 SD it is.
> 11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
> YES 2.0
> NO 2.0
Hmmm. It's a close one, but I'm hoping on a 'No' and I'm thinking Joss
and co. will want to go out with the most major-ass storyline they've
ever done. So I'm going with 'NO' and placing 50 SD.
Total amount bet: 260 SD
Total amount left: 740 SD
See Ya,
George
George van Hal
> (This message is crossposted to uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer and
> alt.buffy.europe)
>
> An opportunity to bet on upcoming S7 plot twists
Wanted to do this last time, but didn't get around to it. So I guess
now's as good a time as any ;-)
Hmm, my newsreader deleted the spoilerspace last time. I have cancelled
the message within mere seconds, but if it has popped up on anyone's
newsserver anyway, then don't read the other post that looks like this ;-)
> SPOILERS FOR 7x11
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I might as well start with the old bets.
> OLD BETS
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>>1. Giles is dead.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
I'll go with a 'NO' on this one. Because of the lousy odds, I'll bet 20 SD
>>2. Dawn's vision of Joyce was The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
Ah, better. I'll again go with 'NO' on this one, for 50 SD.
>>3. Buffy's visions of Joyce are The First Evil.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
I'd have to say 'No' as well, but I'm not placing any bets.
>>4. The apocalypses on 'Buffy' and 'Angel' are related.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
Don't think so, although I do think it's kinda lame that we're having
apacolypses on both shows. Like the one in Buffy better though, btw.
>>5. Principal Wood is under the influence of The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
I think 'NO'. I think he's got something to do with it, possibly knows
the first evil or was under its control at some point, but I don't think
he is now. I'm not too sure about this one though, so I'll wait to bet
on this.
>>6. Principal Wood represents some organisation/power with their own
agenda.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
Here I think it's 'YES'. But I'm still not sure enoguh and the odds suck
ass ;-)
>>7. Andrew is going to get killed this season.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
I'm thinking 'NO'. I'll place 20 SD on that bet.
>>8. Xander and Anya will get back together.
>>YES 1.3
>>NO 4.0
Oh, I'm thinking a wholehearted 'No' here, and it'd suck if they did.
I'm placing 100 SD on this one.
>>9. Principal Wood is on a mission that will turn out to be about Dawn.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
Heh. I think 'NO'. But, look at those odds. So, nah, not going in for
this one ;-)
> NEW BETS
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-
Woo! ;-)
> 10. By resurrecting Buffy in 'Bargaining' (6x01), the Scoobies created
> the opportunity for The First Evil to destroy the Slayer line forever.
> YES 1.3
> NO 4.0
Well, apareantly. I'm most definately thinking 'YES'. So I guess I might
ass well place at least some money on this lousy bet ;-). 30 SD it is.
> 11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
> YES 2.0
> NO 2.0
Hmmm. It's a close one, but I'm hoping on a 'No' and I'm thinking Joss
Iain Clark
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>OLD BETS
>>1. Giles is dead.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
>>
YES, yes, it's true, *sob* - Bet 50 SD
I hope it's not true, but I fear it is. (Personally speaking, that is.
Dramatically it could work either way, and is probably better if he's
dead.)
>>2. Dawn's vision of Joyce was The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
>>
NO, I mean, she was all glowy and everything. <g> - Bet 50 SD
The message to Dawn about Buffy not choosing her will not have the
negative interpretation which Dawn currently assumes.
>>3. Buffy's visions of Joyce are The First Evil.
>>YES 3.0
>>NO 1.5
>>
NO - Bet 30 SD
She seemed supportive, and the stuff about the First being eternal is
the same stuff the Oracle spouted this week so it's presumably true
>>4. The apocalypses on 'Buffy' and 'Angel' are related.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
>>
NO - Bet 100 SD
It's been established that the only thing which can affect more than
one TV network at once is the mysterious cosmic power known as
"Sweeps".
>>5. Principal Wood is under the influence of The First Evil.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
>>
NO - Bet 50 SD
I prefer more complexity, and there's room for a different
explanation. Plus he's cool.
>>6. Principal Wood represents some organisation/power with their own agenda.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
>>
YES - Bet 50 SD
Maybe Watchers, maybe something fighting the First, I dunno.
>>7. Andrew is going to get killed this season.
>>YES 1.5
>>NO 3.0
>>
NO - Bet 30 SD
I mean, seriously, what dramatic impact would it have?
>>8. Xander and Anya will get back together.
>>YES 1.3
>>NO 4.0
>>
NO - Bet 100 SD
Since when has anyone on Buffy ever split up and got back together?
Except Willow and Tara, obviously. And Buffy and Angel. And Buffy
and Spike. Oh, I give up.
>>9. Principal Wood is on a mission that will turn out to be about Dawn.
>>YES 4.0
>>NO 1.3
Erm yes... no... yes... no..... oh what the hell, YES - Bet 10 SD :-)
>NEW BETS
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>10. By resurrecting Buffy in 'Bargaining' (6x01), the Scoobies created
>the opportunity for The First Evil to destroy the Slayer line forever.
>YES 1.3
>NO 4.0
>
YES - Bet 50 SD
It won't be as straightforward as it appears, but basically yes.
>11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
>YES 2.0
>NO 2.0
>
>[*]: For the purposes of this bet, I will have the final say on whether
>an episode is filler or not. As a general guide, I would class 5
>episodes so far this season as filler/non-arc. Namely 'Lessons' (7x01),
>'Same Time, Same Place' (7x03), 'Help' (7x04), 'Selfless' (7x05) and
>'Him' (7x06).
'Lessons' wasn't arc? I suppose it's an arguable case! In which
case, given your twitchy "filler/non arc" trigger finger, I'll have to
vote YES - Bet 50 SD
Total bets - 570 SD
Iain
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"Do not thump the book of G'Quon. It is disrespectful."
Gunnar Harboe
>>an episode is filler or not. As a general guide, I would class 5
>>episodes so far this season as filler/non-arc. Namely 'Lessons' (7x01),
>>'Same Time, Same Place' (7x03), 'Help' (7x04), 'Selfless' (7x05) and
>>'Him' (7x06).
>
>'Lessons' wasn't arc? I suppose it's an arguable case! In which
>case, given your twitchy "filler/non arc" trigger finger, I'll have to
>vote YES - Bet 50 SD
In my opinion, 'Lessons' was not arc. It was an episode about Dawn
starting school and Buffy fighting spirits conjured by a talisman. (If
it's later revealed who put the talisman there, and it's got something
to do with the main arc, I might change my mind.)
The only overtly arc-y stuff is the Istanbul teaser and The First
appearing at the end, but these don't really tie in with the episode at
all. They're more a case of the arc being subtly advanced in a filler ep
(like Angel's appearances in 'Phases', 'Killed by Death' and 'Go Fish'),
or a teaser for future episodes (like Joyce in 'I Was Made to Love
You').
I'm unsure about 'Beneath You', too, since it has a very non-arc main
plot. But there's enough arc stuff in there ("It Eats You Starting With
The Bottom" usw.) that I'll allow it.
Gunnar Harboe
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My personal bets...
Cash: 600 SD
>NEW BETS
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>10. By resurrecting Buffy in 'Bargaining' (6x01), the Scoobies created
>the opportunity for The First Evil to destroy the Slayer line forever.
>YES 1.3
>NO 4.0
YES, 50 SD
I'm pretty much positive this is the case. Don't want to tie up too much
money on those odds, though.
>11. There will be more "filler" (non-arc) episodes this season. [*]
>YES 2.0
>NO 2.0
YES, 150 SD
In 11 episodes, 5 have been non-arc. Surely there must be at least one
in the next 11?! Hmmm... maybe these odds are wrong....
Cash left: 400 SD