BtVS 6.09 Crushed (SPOILERS)
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"How've you been?
Rat. You?
Dead.
Oh"
My gawd, my world is totally askew! Buffy literally jumps Spike's bones,
Willow is slipping and slipping away without as much as a tear over
losing Tara, and I didn't mind the Three Stooges appearing in this
episode!
Let's start with Willow. Usually that is a good start but now I'm
starting to doubt her goodness. Oh she still looks good, great even.
Never better almost. Kinda scary too, with an empty look in her
beautiful eyes. She seems to have gotten over Tara fairly quick. Well of
course she hasn't really. Willow is smart enough to figure out why Tara
really left her, if she'd put her mind to it. But she's too busy
convincing herself that it wasn't because of something she's done, and
doing an admirable job at it I might add, that she is surpressing her
feelings and her clear view. Willow looks numb and emotionless to me.
And more than ever she is filling the gaps up with magick.
She now even has a partner in crime. Suddenly she realised that she
could bring back Amy. Of course she's had a lot of other things on her
mind than deratting her fellow witch. And she's grown a lot in a short
period of time magick wise. So I guess there's some logic in there. I
wonder why Amy was all folded up when she changed back, covering all her
intimate areas. I guess Willow was disappointed as well ;)
Not that it stopped the two of them from bewitching the Bronze. I had a
sliver of hope for Willow when she refused the 'date' Amy arranged for
her. Since when is Amy so quick to manipulate people with magick anyway?
Well, maybe since always. We don't know her that well. And although the
things they do are way out of line I still don't think they have any
evil intentions. Not yet. As for now they show a complete lack of
responsibility and self-control. They just do as they please and use
other people at will. That's not purely evil (otherwise they would rob
banks or steal diamonds or something...) but they've clearly lost all
perspective.
Like Anya said, the level-headed ones, the ones that never got what they
wanted, can be extremely dangerous when they suddenly realise they
actually can have everything they want. Amy already played on Willow's
feelings like that, pointing out that she used to be a wallflower (or is
that walltree in Willow's case?). And Willow sitting at the corner of
the bar was a clear hint at the very early days of WttH.
The two witches on the loose are walking a very fine line between
irresponsibility and corruption by power. A level-headed Willow wouldn't
dream of doing the things she did in the Bronze. I'm thinking Amy will
eventually go paths that Willow really doesn't want to take and thereby
mirror her the consequences of her actions. I hope it won't be too late
by then to get back with Tara (I foresee very painful confrontations
between the two first).
Tara .... god she looked great ... *Sigh*. For my sake I really hope
things get well again (hey, can't I be selfish?). Nice to see her on
good terms with Dawn again. Nice to see her period (ehm, that didn't
come out right). So one the one hand we have to very powerful and
equally irresponsible loose-cannon witches and on the other hand we have
responsible Tara who really wants to see Willow regain her senses again
and things to return to normal. Mmmm... I'm *so* very interested where
this is heading.
Which brings me to the Buffy-Spike travesty. Oh... my... gawd!!! Buffy
has really lost it this time. Hearing from Spike that she isn't even
human anymore was just the push she needed to trip over into insanity. I
don't want to understand but I think I do (as far as there *is*
something to understand here). Buffy's crush the simple version: Spike
is the only left with whom Buffy can *feel* anything. And now there's
even the added danger-factor. Spike can kill Buffy if he wants to now
(well he can try). Remember his speech in Fool for Love? Where he told
Buffy that all Slayers have a deathwish and promised her to be there as
soon as she's 'ready'? Well, Buffy may be ready, what she's doing now
might very well be the beginning of her downfall. The same direction
Willow is heading. But is Spike ready to keep his promise? Is he up to a
crime passionelle?
This episode brought some disappointment as well. When Anya seemed to
finally give it to Willow I was like "Go Anya!". But she wasn't nearly
as blunt as I hoped she would be. And neither were the rest of the
Scoobies. I wonder if they realise what trick Willow pulled last week.
They do seem to be aware that Willow is using magick on the verge of
abusing it. But no one wants or dares to bring it up with her. Just like
no one including Buffy seems inclined to talk about unscheduled two-way
trips to heaven. Nothing really gets resolved, yet (I hope). Come to
think of it: I was waiting for some very severe repercussions for
Willow's use of magick to bring Buffy back. Up till now we've only had
the hitchhike demon, which is pretty lean. But now Buffy's return turns
out to be wrong, things are looking up again... well you know what I
mean.
Some words on the Three Stooges. Wouldn't their freeze trick have killed
the guard? I mean, when water freezes is expands. And what percentage of
the human body consists of water again? It would destroy all the cells
in his body.
I had some hopes that they could relieve Spike of his chip. If Warren
can build near-perfect robots, removing or disabling a chip should be a
piece of cake. But in the end I like Spike only being able to hurt Buffy
even better.
Again, I can't wait to find out what happens next (without reading the
spoilers of course). This means kudos to the writers, but it also means
that this ep was by no stretch of the imagination a stand-alone. Rewatch
should combined with preceding and following eps. But when I think how
beautiful Willow and Tara looked... I don't think I'll have much
problems watching this ep on its own ;)
Bye, Patrick
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Mattia Valente
> *** SPOILERS for BtVS 6.09 Crushed ***
Or possibly, Smashed.
;-)
Hehehehe...
> My gawd, my world is totally askew! Buffy literally jumps Spike's bones,
> Willow is slipping and slipping away without as much as a tear over
> losing Tara, and I didn't mind the Three Stooges appearing in this
> episode!
I only minded a little. More of a feeble annoyance. No vitriolic hate
type feelings...OK, never really had those, but you get what I mean.
> Let's start with Willow. Usually that is a good start but now I'm
> starting to doubt her goodness. Oh she still looks good, great even.
> Never better almost. Kinda scary too, with an empty look in her
> beautiful eyes. She seems to have gotten over Tara fairly quick. Well of
> course she hasn't really. Willow is smart enough to figure out why Tara
> really left her, if she'd put her mind to it. But she's too busy
> convincing herself that it wasn't because of something she's done, and
> doing an admirable job at it I might add, that she is surpressing her
> feelings and her clear view. Willow looks numb and emotionless to me.
> And more than ever she is filling the gaps up with magick.
At the moment Willow's in a bad place. She put herself there quite
singelhandedly, I might add. She still hasn't figured out that Magick is
not a good thing. You would've hoped that Tara's departure would've
jolted her into realization, but no, repression takes over.
> She now even has a partner in crime. Suddenly she realised that she
> could bring back Amy. Of course she's had a lot of other things on her
> mind than deratting her fellow witch. And she's grown a lot in a short
> period of time magick wise. So I guess there's some logic in there. I
Some. Basically, not thinking about it. Doesn't make a LOT of sense.
Hello? Girl trapped in Rat body? Sorta important sometimes, people. It
all went a little bit too simply for my tastes. Then again, big
complicated spells that go awry seems to be the theme of the season so
far (Bargaining, it appears, didn't go quite as planned. Then you've got
OMWF and TR..)
> wonder why Amy was all folded up when she changed back, covering all her
> intimate areas. I guess Willow was disappointed as well ;)
Tsk tsk...dirty mind. I LIKE it...
> Not that it stopped the two of them from bewitching the Bronze. I had a
> sliver of hope for Willow when she refused the 'date' Amy arranged for
> her.
OK, so I think this was OTT. It started to get just that little bit too
easy. Then again, the fact it's so simple for the two of them indicates
how dangerous they could get if they weren't merely being flippant.
> Since when is Amy so quick to manipulate people with magick anyway?
> Well, maybe since always. We don't know her that well.
Oh, I think we know her enough. She was powerful enough to make herself
(and others) into rats. She bewitched her teachers instead of doing her
homework way back in S2. No, she's quite capable of using magicks
withouth overmuch thought. Perhaps being a rat, the shock of it all,
makes her more easily ready to start using her powers. Defensive
mechanisms; they're more effective than her hands and feet.
> And although the
> things they do are way out of line I still don't think they have any
> evil intentions. Not yet. As for now they show a complete lack of
> responsibility and self-control. They just do as they please and use
> other people at will. That's not purely evil (otherwise they would rob
> banks or steal diamonds or something...) but they've clearly lost all
> perspective.
It's not 'Evil' in the sense of 'Mwahahahaha! I'm EVIL!!' but it's
perhaps worse than that. More dangerous. More ambiguous. It's not a
pretty place to be.
> Like Anya said, the level-headed ones, the ones that never got what they
> wanted, can be extremely dangerous when they suddenly realise they
> actually can have everything they want. Amy already played on Willow's
> feelings like that, pointing out that she used to be a wallflower (or is
> that walltree in Willow's case?). And Willow sitting at the corner of
> the bar was a clear hint at the very early days of WttH.
Yup. And she still looks uber foxy.
> The two witches on the loose are walking a very fine line between
> irresponsibility and corruption by power. A level-headed Willow wouldn't
> dream of doing the things she did in the Bronze. I'm thinking Amy will
> eventually go paths that Willow really doesn't want to take and thereby
> mirror her the consequences of her actions. I hope it won't be too late
> by then to get back with Tara (I foresee very painful confrontations
> between the two first).
Hmmm....I wonder if Amy'll really stick around, though. I guess we'll
have to wait and see. I'm not sure I want her to stick around for good,
for ever. Too many people floating around the cast already, even with
Giles gone...
> Tara .... god she looked great ... *Sigh*. For my sake I really hope
> things get well again (hey, can't I be selfish?). Nice to see her on
> good terms with Dawn again. Nice to see her period (ehm, that didn't
> come out right). So one the one hand we have to very powerful and
> equally irresponsible loose-cannon witches and on the other hand we have
> responsible Tara who really wants to see Willow regain her senses again
> and things to return to normal. Mmmm... I'm *so* very interested where
> this is heading.
Yes, but I must add that I'm surprised to see you spend so much 'text
time' on something that, for me, was far, far, faaar less shocking,
exciting, confusing and dangerous than the B/S/Chip situation. Yes, Amy
was great, and the fact that her return can be overshadowed is, for me,
a mark of goodness. All that was cool (before it went a little beyond my
disbelief levels..) but in the end, more of a hidden, slumbering, less
'real' confrontation.
> Which brings me to the Buffy-Spike travesty.
Travesty??
> Oh... my... gawd!!! Buffy
> has really lost it this time. Hearing from Spike that she isn't even
> human anymore was just the push she needed to trip over into insanity. I
> don't want to understand but I think I do (as far as there *is*
> something to understand here).
I don't know what it is. Insanity? Perhaps too strong a word. Stable,
right minded and level? Far, far from it. I'm mostly just disturbed and
head spinn-y
> Buffy's crush the simple version: Spike
> is the only left with whom Buffy can *feel* anything. And now there's
> even the added danger-factor. Spike can kill Buffy if he wants to now
> (well he can try). Remember his speech in Fool for Love? Where he told
> Buffy that all Slayers have a deathwish and promised her to be there as
> soon as she's 'ready'? Well, Buffy may be ready, what she's doing now
> might very well be the beginning of her downfall. The same direction
> Willow is heading. But is Spike ready to keep his promise? Is he up to a
> crime passionelle?
Aaah...there's the question. I'm not quite sure WHAT to think of Buffy's
desperate actions. She's looking for something, looking for stability,
and Spike (correct me if I'm wrong, but is that the first new shirt he's
ever worn? Blue shirt? Weird..) manages to rip that away from underneath
her. She came back wrong..or so it seems. How wrong may affect what
Spike wants from her, what she wants...Buffy seemed quite stable, it
seemed like she was working things out, but her mind seems to be rather
FUBAR right now...
Oh, and apparently, we get one more ep next week. Then 3 repeats, new
ep, repeats, and then I have no clue. Later on a big, real, rerun hell.
Brrr.
> This episode brought some disappointment as well. When Anya seemed to
> finally give it to Willow I was like "Go Anya!". But she wasn't nearly
> as blunt as I hoped she would be.
It was a nice, small scene. The thing is, I don't know that they know
the entirety of the situation. Realize everything that happened. I doubt
Tara told them, and I'm sure Willow didn't. Plus, there's the standard
'shyness' factor.
Buffy was going to tell Will about her and Spike. Might've
been....interesting to see, that. Hmm...
> And neither were the rest of the
> Scoobies. I wonder if they realise what trick Willow pulled last week.
> They do seem to be aware that Willow is using magick on the verge of
> abusing it. But no one wants or dares to bring it up with her. Just like
> no one including Buffy seems inclined to talk about unscheduled two-way
> trips to heaven. Nothing really gets resolved, yet (I hope). Come to
> think of it: I was waiting for some very severe repercussions for
> Willow's use of magick to bring Buffy back.
Oh yeah...they've got some explaining to do...heh. Starting to really
kick off, just as 'Angel' looks to be rounding off part of it's first
mini-arc (assuming they have a format similar, in some ways, to S2..)
> Up till now we've only had
> the hitchhike demon, which is pretty lean. But now Buffy's return turns
> out to be wrong, things are looking up again... well you know what I
> mean.
Yes, I very much do. Spoooky.
> Some words on the Three Stooges. Wouldn't their freeze trick have killed
> the guard? I mean, when water freezes is expands. And what percentage of
> the human body consists of water again? It would destroy all the cells
> in his body.
Ignore the 'Science' part of it. it's all BS. Yes, freezing would cause
crystalization (not expansion, in this case) which would destroy various
cell structures. Not good. Death, very much. Unless it's some special
kind that instantly lowers the temp so that you don't get crystal
formation (Cryo vaults for brains 'n stuff use this..). Still, silly.
> I had some hopes that they could relieve Spike of his chip. If Warren
> can build near-perfect robots, removing or disabling a chip should be a
> piece of cake. But in the end I like Spike only being able to hurt Buffy
> even better.
Heh..I've been hoping for something like that, but neurosurgery and
being really really good at playing with gadgets...
Oh, and as I sorta mentioned, Warren's getting a little more interesting
as things progress. Jonathan and I don't know his name guy, not really a
lot.
> Again, I can't wait to find out what happens next (without reading the
> spoilers of course). This means kudos to the writers, but it also means
> that this ep was by no stretch of the imagination a stand-alone. Rewatch
> should combined with preceding and following eps.
Yeah. And throw in the musical for good measure ;-)
> But when I think how
> beautiful Willow and Tara looked... I don't think I'll have much
> problems watching this ep on its own ;)
Heh. I'm going to start up a rewatch from the start, write some 'proper'
reviews this time. Post them, watch them not get replied to, that sort
of thing. Should be interesting, in any case ;-)
Mattia
--
"My beagle went swimming today and now he's typing on my keyboard with
his ample nose. Oh, and he's the bestest handsomeest beagle EVER."
--Tim Minear, Salon.com, May 2001
P@rick
> "P@rick" wrote:
> > *** SPOILERS for BtVS 6.09 Crushed ***
>
> Or possibly, Smashed.
*sigh* I know :) But Crushed seems very appropriate as well ;)
> Some. Basically, not thinking about it. Doesn't make a LOT of sense.
> Hello? Girl trapped in Rat body? Sorta important sometimes, people. It
> all went a little bit too simply for my tastes.
Well, that's actually a good side to it. No big hassle, just bring her
back. Shows (again) how powerful Willow is atm. And they bring back Amy
when they actually have a use for her, which I like very much. I always
wondered what Amy would do when she was deratted, lagging some years
behind on the rest. Now we know: playing bad witch on the town together
with Willow. For the moment all she wants to do is have fun. And that
involves abusing magick on people. I think all this years living as a
rat messed with her mind and made her indifferent.
> > Not that it stopped the two of them from bewitching the Bronze. I had a
> > sliver of hope for Willow when she refused the 'date' Amy arranged for
> > her.
>
> OK, so I think this was OTT. It started to get just that little bit too
> easy. Then again, the fact it's so simple for the two of them indicates
> how dangerous they could get if they weren't merely being flippant.
Yeah. If they really want to play bad, who's going to stop them? The
Three Stooges? I think it will be Tara in some way or the other. And if
it is, I hope they're not going to make it easy or cheap.
> > Since when is Amy so quick to manipulate people with magick anyway?
> > Well, maybe since always. We don't know her that well.
>
> Oh, I think we know her enough. She was powerful enough to make herself
> (and others) into rats. She bewitched her teachers instead of doing her
> homework way back in S2. No, she's quite capable of using magicks
> withouth overmuch thought. Perhaps being a rat, the shock of it all,
> makes her more easily ready to start using her powers. Defensive
> mechanisms; they're more effective than her hands and feet.
I think you're absolutely right here. She never showed much hesitation
to (ab)use magick. And she *is* very powerful. Lord knows what all these
years of eating biscuits and watching Willow and Tara go at it have done
to her mind.
> > And although the
> > things they do are way out of line I still don't think they have any
> > evil intentions. Not yet. As for now they show a complete lack of
> > responsibility and self-control. They just do as they please and use
> > other people at will. That's not purely evil (otherwise they would rob
> > banks or steal diamonds or something...) but they've clearly lost all
> > perspective.
>
> It's not 'Evil' in the sense of 'Mwahahahaha! I'm EVIL!!' but it's
> perhaps worse than that. More dangerous. More ambiguous. It's not a
> pretty place to be.
Yes, it is. Pure evil is simple and pretty straightforward. Here you see
two people who really should know better do awful things. Like they have
no morals anymore, no consciousness. We know that Willow is basically
good at heart, and intelligent to boot. But somehow that is no guarantee
to keep her of the dark roads. Magick is corrupting her. Or is it
addicion? If she's addicted she could also make pencils float 24/h a
day...
> Hmmm....I wonder if Amy'll really stick around, though. I guess we'll
> have to wait and see. I'm not sure I want her to stick around for good,
> for ever. Too many people floating around the cast already, even with
> Giles gone...
Well as I said, her return seems to serve a clear purpose. And as long
as it does that I have no problem at all with her staying around.
Especially if she keeps wearing short skirts like that ;) I think Amy is
exactly the girl Willow didn't need at the moment.
> Yes, but I must add that I'm surprised to see you spend so much 'text
> time' on something that, for me, was far, far, faaar less shocking,
> exciting, confusing and dangerous than the B/S/Chip situation. Yes, Amy
> was great, and the fact that her return can be overshadowed is, for me,
> a mark of goodness. All that was cool (before it went a little beyond my
> disbelief levels..) but in the end, more of a hidden, slumbering, less
> 'real' confrontation.
Well, Amy doesn't really matter to me that much. It's more the effect
she has on Willow. In a way Tara has been replaced by Amy. Tara
criticised Willow's use of magick. Amy uses it exactly the same way as
Willow does. Note how eager Willow is to help Amy with a forget spell.
Willow shows a worrying lack of grief over Tara's departure. And she
seems all too comfortable with Amy filling the gap.
> > Which brings me to the Buffy-Spike travesty.
>
> Travesty??
For lack of a better word I guess.
> Oh, and apparently, we get one more ep next week. Then 3 repeats, new
> ep, repeats, and then I have no clue. Later on a big, real, rerun hell.
> Brrr.
Actually, I could use the pauze right now ;) It's all like a big
rollercoaster ride :)
> > This episode brought some disappointment as well. When Anya seemed to
> > finally give it to Willow I was like "Go Anya!". But she wasn't nearly
> > as blunt as I hoped she would be.
>
> It was a nice, small scene. The thing is, I don't know that they know
> the entirety of the situation. Realize everything that happened. I doubt
> Tara told them, and I'm sure Willow didn't. Plus, there's the standard
> 'shyness' factor.
I can't imagine they'd let this one pass. If they hadn't somehow figured
out that Willow did this, they'd want to get to the bottom of it I
imagine. They mentioned that Willow is using a lot of magick nowadays
(duh!) but they didn't specifically mention messing with their minds.
That's why I found the conversation between Buffy and Willow very
strange. Buffy wanted to talk to her about... no not that fact that
Willow pulled her out of heaven.. and no, not that Buffy was really
pissed off that Willow tried to make up by erasing her memory which hit
Buffy with a Troll-hammer when her memories returned... No, Buffy wanted
to talk about the strange feelings she's been having for Spike. Say
what!? So after all Willow's done they're still best buds or something?
Very weird...
> Buffy was going to tell Will about her and Spike. Might've
> been....interesting to see, that. Hmm...
See above, re: weird...
> Heh. I'm going to start up a rewatch from the start, write some 'proper'
> reviews this time. Post them, watch them not get replied to
Hey, as long as you include a summary I'll read it and possibly even
reply ;)
Bye, Patrick
who also doesn't get a whole lot of replies but isn't really bothered by
this and will keep bothering everyone with his reviews ;)
Mattia Valente
>
> Mattia Valente wrote:
> > "P@rick" wrote:
> > > *** SPOILERS for BtVS 6.09 Crushed ***
> >
> > Or possibly, Smashed.
>
> *sigh* I know :) But Crushed seems very appropriate as well ;)
OK. But it's still not the correct title.
> Well, that's actually a good side to it. No big hassle, just bring her
> back. Shows (again) how powerful Willow is atm. And they bring back Amy
> when they actually have a use for her, which I like very much. I always
> wondered what Amy would do when she was deratted, lagging some years
> behind on the rest. Now we know: playing bad witch on the town together
> with Willow. For the moment all she wants to do is have fun. And that
> involves abusing magick on people. I think all this years living as a
> rat messed with her mind and made her indifferent.
I'm not sure it's that. She doesn't realize it's been very long, not
really. She knows it has, and needs to adjust to that, deal with that,
but isn't doing either very well.
As for bringing her back now? OK, as a story device it works, because
it's practical, but in terms of internal logic it's not particularly
well thought out. IMO. OK, so they were really busy a lot of last
season, but there hasn't really been an effort to turn her human since
S4 (if only in words..) All that magicks research Willow did and...well,
you get my point.
> > OK, so I think this was OTT. It started to get just that little bit too
> > easy. Then again, the fact it's so simple for the two of them indicates
> > how dangerous they could get if they weren't merely being flippant.
>
> Yeah. If they really want to play bad, who's going to stop them? The
> Three Stooges? I think it will be Tara in some way or the other. And if
> it is, I hope they're not going to make it easy or cheap.
Ve shall see. And, uh, the stooges? more likely to help out than to
hinder.
> I think you're absolutely right here. She never showed much hesitation
> to (ab)use magick. And she *is* very powerful. Lord knows what all these
> years of eating biscuits and watching Willow and Tara go at it have done
> to her mind.
Hehehehe....again, how much does she remember? Not a whole lot. It's the
reality of what she's missed that's going to hit her the hardest, I
think.
> > It's not 'Evil' in the sense of 'Mwahahahaha! I'm EVIL!!' but it's
> > perhaps worse than that. More dangerous. More ambiguous. It's not a
> > pretty place to be.
>
> Yes, it is. Pure evil is simple and pretty straightforward. Here you see
> two people who really should know better do awful things. Like they have
> no morals anymore, no consciousness. We know that Willow is basically
> good at heart, and intelligent to boot. But somehow that is no guarantee
> to keep her of the dark roads. Magick is corrupting her. Or is it
> addicion? If she's addicted she could also make pencils float 24/h a
> day...
Yup. Addicition metaphor.
> Well as I said, her return seems to serve a clear purpose. And as long
> as it does that I have no problem at all with her staying around.
> Especially if she keeps wearing short skirts like that ;) I think Amy is
> exactly the girl Willow didn't need at the moment.
M2.
> Well, Amy doesn't really matter to me that much. It's more the effect
> she has on Willow. In a way Tara has been replaced by Amy. Tara
> criticised Willow's use of magick. Amy uses it exactly the same way as
> Willow does. Note how eager Willow is to help Amy with a forget spell.
> Willow shows a worrying lack of grief over Tara's departure. And she
> seems all too comfortable with Amy filling the gap.
Also not how Amy's less eager than Willow to solve that particular
aspect of her life through Magick use. She may use it easily and
readily, but she's very well aware, through personal experience, of what
it can do to people..
> > > Which brings me to the Buffy-Spike travesty.
> >
> > Travesty??
>
> For lack of a better word I guess.
Ah.
> > Oh, and apparently, we get one more ep next week. Then 3 repeats, new
> > ep, repeats, and then I have no clue. Later on a big, real, rerun hell.
> > Brrr.
>
> Actually, I could use the pauze right now ;) It's all like a big
> rollercoaster ride :)
Heh..
> I can't imagine they'd let this one pass. If they hadn't somehow figured
> out that Willow did this, they'd want to get to the bottom of it I
> imagine. They mentioned that Willow is using a lot of magick nowadays
> (duh!) but they didn't specifically mention messing with their minds.
> That's why I found the conversation between Buffy and Willow very
> strange. Buffy wanted to talk to her about... no not that fact that
> Willow pulled her out of heaven.. and no, not that Buffy was really
> pissed off that Willow tried to make up by erasing her memory which hit
> Buffy with a Troll-hammer when her memories returned... No, Buffy wanted
> to talk about the strange feelings she's been having for Spike. Say
> what!? So after all Willow's done they're still best buds or something?
> Very weird...
True...Willow is still the 'normal' person she's closest too, though.
She felt the need to talk, and X/A, well, that's distrbing (although if
I were her, I'd talk to Xander. He's quite good at this stuff. If it
weren't for the detestation of Spike issues, and the hating Vampires in
general issues.) She's quite easily moved away from that path, though.
And the memory erasure? Nothing really terrible came of that for the
gang or for Buffy. It was dangerous, etc, but essentially without
massive aftereffects. Giles' departure has her badly, badly shaken. I'm
still not convinced that was a smart thing to do. Not at all convinced.
Damn Giles and his britishness!
> > Buffy was going to tell Will about her and Spike. Might've
> > been....interesting to see, that. Hmm...
>
> See above, re: weird...
Mwah.
> > Heh. I'm going to start up a rewatch from the start, write some 'proper'
> > reviews this time. Post them, watch them not get replied to
>
> Hey, as long as you include a summary I'll read it and possibly even
> reply ;)
Oy!
But, hmm, OK. You know the drill though. Skip the 'Story' section, skip
the rest, and move to final thoughts. Or something.
> who also doesn't get a whole lot of replies but isn't really bothered by
> this and will keep bothering everyone with his reviews ;)
Yay! S5 doesn't get much discussion. Although I'm tempted to try and
change that a little, once the next few eps roll around. But I think
nkSF is a tad better for that, plenty 'o' people watching there for the
first time, that sorta thing..
Saskia
something Imporant or is it just because you can't spell? ;-P
Need to know now. Don't like magick. Love magic though!
--
Saskia
Mattia Valente
>
> Just wondering : why do you guys keep saying "Magick"? Have I missed
> something Imporant or is it just because you can't spell? ;-P
Because it's common usage. There's Magic (David Copperfield) and there's
Magick. As in 'powerful Magicks'. That's 'normal' in Wicca/alternative
circles, and is the 'correct' spelling in this case. Magic, no k, is
not.
Example: see the shooting scripts:
GILES: "Studying history at Oxford and of course the occult by night. I
hated it. The boring grind of school, the pressure of my "destiny". So I
dropped out. I went to London, fell in with the worst crowd that would
have me. We practiced magicks."
--The Dark Age
SHAMAN: "You have risked great danger in calling on me. The deadliest
Magicks are needed to rob this creature of its soul."
--Enemies
Alternately, check yer dictionary:
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=Magick
It's the Wicca thing, basically. Magic is valid as well, but Magick is
more specific.
> Need to know now. Don't like magick. Love magic though!
Now you know!
Saskia
> Saskia wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering : why do you guys keep saying "Magick"? Have I missed
> > something Imporant or is it just because you can't spell? ;-P
>
> Because it's common usage. There's Magic (David Copperfield) and there's
> Magick.
Ah ok. Didn't know that. Thanks.
> Alternately, check yer dictionary:
Webster doesn't mention magick.
--
Saskia
Mattia Valente
> Mattia Valente said :
> > Saskia wrote:
> > > Just wondering : why do you guys keep saying "Magick"? Have I missed
> > > something Imporant or is it just because you can't spell? ;-P
> >
> > Because it's common usage. There's Magic (David Copperfield) and there's
> > Magick.
>
> Ah ok. Didn't know that. Thanks.
;-)
> > Alternately, check yer dictionary:
>
> Webster doesn't mention magick.
Ah well....
At least you know that (this time) it's not our crap spelling skills.
P@rick
> Just wondering : why do you guys keep saying "Magick"? Have I missed
> something Imporant or is it just because you can't spell? ;-P
Go see both the Harry Potter and LoTR movie and pay close attention to
how they pronounce 'magick'. If you listen very carefully you'll hear
that they pronounce it 'magick' and not 'magic'.
Of course you have to be a Wicca to hear the difference to start with.
But sufficient amounts of alcohol or smoking some joints and inhale
usually do the trick as well.
Bye, Patrick
;)