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Mathew R. Ignash

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Feb 28, 2003, 6:14:32 AM2/28/03
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I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I hadn't
realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.

Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:

http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg

And Dawn and Buffy together at the end of season 6:

http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy618-photo1.jpg

I'm guessing SMG didn't shrink (well, except for in the chest), Michelle really
has grown!

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Dave Emberton

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Feb 28, 2003, 7:40:17 AM2/28/03
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"Mathew R. Ignash" <mathew...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I
hadn't
> realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.
>
> Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:
>
> http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg
>
> And Dawn and Buffy together at the end of season 6:
>
> http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy618-photo1.jpg

And that was a year ago.

She's not a little girl anymore. Sniff.

Dave


zaphy

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Feb 28, 2003, 7:50:40 AM2/28/03
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:40:17 -0000, "Dave Emberton"
<notint...@notinterested.in.your.spam.com> regurgitated:

>And that was a year ago.
>
>She's not a little girl anymore. Sniff.

But it's not all bad...

*drool*

Christopher G Brannigan

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Feb 28, 2003, 8:46:58 AM2/28/03
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"zaphy" <todds...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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leave her alone....I got first dibs on her a long time ago!

ChrisB

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Dr Zoidberg

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Feb 28, 2003, 9:19:31 AM2/28/03
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Christopher G Brannigan wrote:
> "zaphy" <todds...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:fomu5vkrh8da10l9r...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:40:17 -0000, "Dave Emberton"
>> <notint...@notinterested.in.your.spam.com> regurgitated:
>>
>>> And that was a year ago.
>>>
>>> She's not a little girl anymore. Sniff.
>>
>> But it's not all bad...
>>
>> *drool*
>
> leave her alone....I got first dibs on her a long time ago!
>
But wasn't that around the time of the first picture?
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Christopher G Brannigan

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Feb 28, 2003, 9:26:17 AM2/28/03
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"Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOOO!!!!!@Drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Christopher G Brannigan wrote:
> > "zaphy" <todds...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:fomu5vkrh8da10l9r...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:40:17 -0000, "Dave Emberton"
> >> <notint...@notinterested.in.your.spam.com> regurgitated:
> >>
> >>> And that was a year ago.
> >>>
> >>> She's not a little girl anymore. Sniff.
> >>
> >> But it's not all bad...
> >>
> >> *drool*
> >
> > leave her alone....I got first dibs on her a long time ago!
> >
> But wasn't that around the time of the first picture?

Nah it was that film she did with rosie o'donnell


(note: I have never seen this film and was joking)

EGK

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Feb 28, 2003, 10:57:34 AM2/28/03
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On 28 Feb 2003 06:14:32 -0500, "Mathew R. Ignash" <mathew...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I hadn't
>realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.
>
>Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:
>
>http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg
>
>And Dawn and Buffy together at the end of season 6:
>
>http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy618-photo1.jpg
>
>I'm guessing SMG didn't shrink (well, except for in the chest), Michelle really
>has grown!

While I agree that Michelle has certainly grown, pictures do lie. If you go
back to season 1, it often appears as if Sarah is as tall or taller then
Alyson. Alyson was already in her 20's so I doubt she's grown any since
then. They often put Sarah in high-heeled shoes and boots on the show to
make her look taller while Alyson wore flat shoes. They don't seem to
bother doing that so much anymore.

On a similar note, people who used to talk about Amber Benson being fat
never seemed to get that the camera lies either. SMG and even Alyson are
really tiny though Alyson seems to be filling out more while Sarah wastes
away. Standing next to them, almost anyone would look huge on camera. I'll
never forget the shot at the end of Hush where Riley and Buffy are sitting
opposite one another on the twin beds. They showed a full screen shot
rather then use angles to mask the size difference. Sarah looked like a
little kid across from him. Other's noticed the scene in The Body where
Sarah is sitting next to Amber.


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David Bromage

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Feb 28, 2003, 8:55:23 PM2/28/03
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Mathew R. Ignash wrote:

> I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I hadn't
> realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.
>
> Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:
>
> http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg


Go back another two years to when she was shoulder high to Matthew Broderick
and quite skinny.

Cheers
David

Philip Chien

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Mar 1, 2003, 12:29:51 AM3/1/03
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EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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> While I agree that Michelle has certainly grown, pictures do lie. If
> you go back to season 1, it often appears as if Sarah is as tall or
> taller then Alyson.

Michelle Trachtenberg was just 10 years old when the first season of Buffy
the Vampire Slayer was filmed so she certainly has grown up the most in the
cast.

But you're quite right that they did use camera angles and heels to make
SMG look taller on occasion and more her actual size in other cases.

By Season 6 Michelle Trachtenberg was taller than SMG, but the way the show
was shot you would think that Buffy was still a little taller than Dawn
with one or two exceptions. By Season 7 they gave in to reality and even
joked about Dawn being taller than Buffy.

At the Emmies seminar on Buffy Michelle Trachtenberg said Joss had said in
front of witnesses that she could wear black slacks and heels on the show
in Season 7 and Joss acknowledged that he did make that promise which
apparently made Michelle rather happy. Alyson Hannigan quipped "Why would
you want heels? You're already the tallest girl in the cast!"

And the proper expression for Dawn's lovelyness in "Storyteller" is "Gosh -
look at those" as quoted by Willow dressed as VampWillow.

Philip Chien
(and you all keeep your grubby hands off Dawn. I've been enjoying her
since Season 1!)

bolle boos

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Mar 1, 2003, 1:21:01 AM3/1/03
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"Mathew R. Ignash" <mathew...@comcast.net> schreef in bericht
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>
> I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I
hadn't
> realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.
>
> Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:
>
> http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg
>
> And Dawn and Buffy together at the end of season 6:
>
> http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy618-photo1.jpg
>
> I'm guessing SMG didn't shrink (well, except for in the chest), Michelle
really
> has grown!

hmmm also chest wise I noticed. ;7)


Tim Cunnings

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Mar 1, 2003, 7:28:51 AM3/1/03
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"Dave Emberton" <notint...@notinterested.in.your.spam.com> wrote in
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Was that a reference to the Mayor and Faith, Season 3? Cause thats what I
thought!


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someone

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Mar 1, 2003, 11:17:08 AM3/1/03
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On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 05:29:51 +0000, Philip Chien wrote:

> Philip Chien
> (and you all keeep your grubby hands off Dawn. I've been enjoying her
> since Season 1!)

if you don't IMMEDIATELY cease and desist, you'll be hearing from my
attorney- it took an intervention and months of intense therapy before I
could admit to myself and others that Dawn didn't appear till season five.
Your subtle brainwashing tactics aren't likely to be effective against me,
but I worry about other innocents, especially CHILDREN, who might fall
under your evil spell.(But I still miss my inflatable Dawny doll).

Hunter

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Mar 1, 2003, 5:39:37 PM3/1/03
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In article <3e605202$0$159$e4fe...@dreader8.news.xs4all.nl>,
bo...@boos.nl says...
---
You're not the only one. Hell, she was bigger than SMG in season 5!
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a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

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William George Ferguson

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Mar 1, 2003, 7:38:49 PM3/1/03
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On 28 Feb 2003 06:14:32 -0500, "Mathew R. Ignash"
<mathew...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>I know they have remarked about how Dawn is taller then Buffy now, but I hadn't
>realized just NOW MUCH she has grown in 2+ years on the show.
>
>Compare Buffy and Dawn in their first ep together for height:
>
>http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy501-photo1.jpg
>
>And Dawn and Buffy together at the end of season 6:
>
>http://angelseries.freeyellow.com/buffy/buffy618-photo1.jpg
>
>I'm guessing SMG didn't shrink (well, except for in the chest), Michelle really
>has grown!

Part of the extreme difference is that they stopped working so hard to
de-emphasize the height difference. Even in BvsD and The Real Me, MT
was probably already taller than SMG, but they spent most of that
season framing shots to diguise it. It got even worse in the first
half of season six, because by then MT was not only taller than SMG
but every other female actor on the show. Entropy, the ep the second
screen cap is from, is the first time they acknowledged that Dawn is
taller (a lot taller) than Buffy. From that point it has become a
joke topic for the show, but they still demphasize Dawn's height in
scenes with Buffy (despite MT's pleading, Dawn still doesn't get to
wear heels very often).


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DAWN: ... and my sister is a vampire slayer, her best friend is a witch
who went bonkers and tried to destroy the world, um, I actually used to
be a little ball of energy until about two years ago when some monks
changed the past and made me Buffy's sister and for some reason, a big
klepto. My best friends are Leticia Jones, who moved to San Diego
because this town is evil, and a floppy eared demon named Clem.
(deleted scene from the shooting script of BtVS:Lessons)

Edward McArdle

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Mar 1, 2003, 9:13:51 PM3/1/03
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In article <j6k26vci3393nakkp...@4ax.com>, William George
Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:


>Part of the extreme difference is that they stopped working so hard to
>de-emphasize the height difference.

This has always been a bit puzzling.
Part of the mythos of Buffy is that she is the opposite of traditional
heroes/heroines. She was at her most fluffy or feminine just before/after
beating the stuffing out of some monster. Her being small should have been
an integral part of that ethos. Perhaps SMG just didn't like it?

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Lee S. Billings

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Mar 1, 2003, 10:02:29 PM3/1/03
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In article
<deletethisbit.mcard...@1cust181.tnt2.mel1.da.uu.net>,
deletethis...@ozemail.com.au says...

Well, y'know, it's one thing to be shorter than all the guys in your class, or
even your best female friends. It's another thing altogether to be shorter than
your *kid sister*! <g>

I used to date a guy who made a Huge Thing out of being taller than his older
brother -- mostly because said older brother used to ride him about being the
"little" brother. Karmic justice...

Celine

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Mar 1, 2003, 11:48:53 PM3/1/03
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In news:b3rs85$683$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net,
Lee S. Billings <stard...@mindspring.com> Retorted:

> In article
> <deletethisbit.mcard...@1cust181.tnt2.mel1.da.uu.net>,
> deletethis...@ozemail.com.au says...
>>
>> In article <j6k26vci3393nakkp...@4ax.com>, William
>> George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Part of the extreme difference is that they stopped working so hard
>>> to de-emphasize the height difference.
>>
>> This has always been a bit puzzling.
>> Part of the mythos of Buffy is that she is the opposite of
>> traditional heroes/heroines. She was at her most fluffy or feminine
>> just before/after beating the stuffing out of some monster. Her
>> being small should have been an integral part of that ethos. Perhaps
>> SMG just didn't like it?
>
> Well, y'know, it's one thing to be shorter than all the guys in your
> class, or even your best female friends. It's another thing
> altogether to be shorter than your *kid sister*! <g>
>
> I used to date a guy who made a Huge Thing out of being taller than
> his older brother -- mostly because said older brother used to ride
> him about being the "little" brother. Karmic justice...
>
> Celine

I am 33, and 6ft, my kid brother is 29 and 7ft, I have to look up to him!

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John L

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"Edward McArdle" <deletethis...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Perhaps one eye on her future career in Hollywood?

John.


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