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Arkasha

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i bet i'm not the only one with teary eyes. Just seeing Willow cry and you
can bring out the tissues.

It was getting so nice between Willow and Tara, they were even getting a
secret pet!
And than Oz shows up. You could really feel the tension radiate of the
screen. Giles tries the all British solution, by offering thee, but even
that doesn't work.
You could clearly see how confused Willow was with the whole situation.
When Oz shows her the full moon, she's genuinely happy for him.
And then Tara shows up, possibly drawing the wrong conclusions.
Now Willow has to come straight with herself, with Buffy and with Tara.
Buffy apparently hadn't picked up any hints!! and is therefor somewhat
freaked by the news. But she seems to understand in the end.
Tara is (annoyingly) unsure of herself, and assumes Willow will go back to
Oz. I was practily yelling at my TVscreen for Tara stand up for herself !!
But i guess she isn't ready for that yet. Good thing Willow is sticking by
her.
The most freaked out by all this is Oz himself. It turns out that his
"cure"is actually making him more dangerous. Instead of being controlled by
the moon, the wolf can now can out by any strong enough negative stimulus.
For tI that's reason enough to classify him as a hostile demon and to hold
him for al kinds of tests.
That's the final straw for Riley. He's finally coming to his senses and sees
how fishy this whole I-thing is.
He even punches out his commanding officer, so the change is rather radical.
Now he's a fugitive. I wander what his mom will think of that the next time
he calls her.

In the end Willow chooses for the one she loves (everybody: Ahhhhhhhh)
Too bad they had to turn out the light !! damn FOX, we should have had a
kiss.
Anyway, Oz leaves again, probably working on some better emotion control.
Now who could have guessed Oz would ever need that?

O yeah, Spike teams up with Adam. Still vague why Adam needs Spike. All that
stuff about Buffy leading the humans?? sound like more stuff that needs be
worked out in the eps left in this season.


Arkasha
Spike: "Yeah... the thing about the Slayer is... she is a whiny
little thing"
Hé, he said it !!


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Mattia Valente

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Oct 29, 2000, 4:18:10 PM10/29/00
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;-)

> It was getting so nice between Willow and Tara, they were even getting a
> secret pet!

I'll vote for Miss Kitty Fantastico..nifty name. Although, like Willow,
I'm more of a Dog person, really..

> And than Oz shows up. You could really feel the tension radiate of the
> screen. Giles tries the all British solution, by offering thee, but even
> that doesn't work.

Right. Although nobody else seemed to notice the source of the tension.
Are they all blind or something? Looks that way sometimes..

> You could clearly see how confused Willow was with the whole situation.
> When Oz shows her the full moon, she's genuinely happy for him.

That was a pleasent surprise..intersting development as well.

> And then Tara shows up, possibly drawing the wrong conclusions.

Kind of a standard ply that..how many times have we had that happen ;-)

> Now Willow has to come straight with herself, with Buffy and with Tara.
> Buffy apparently hadn't picked up any hints!! and is therefor somewhat
> freaked by the news. But she seems to understand in the end.

She seems to accept it pretty quickly, actually. Much to her credit. I
still can't get over the fact nobody noticed anything though. Either W
and T have been very very discreet, or the rest of the gang is
completely blind.

> Tara is (annoyingly) unsure of herself, and assumes Willow will go back to

Seems a little familiar, actually. Reminds me of Early Willow.

> Oz. I was practily yelling at my TVscreen for Tara stand up for herself !!

Which would have been out of character. It was handled well, IMHO.

> But i guess she isn't ready for that yet. Good thing Willow is sticking by
> her.

I guess..I'm still sort of a pro-Willow/Oz kinda of guy, but I guess old
habits die hard. Oz is and always will be more amusing than Tara can be
(unless she changes a lot, at least ;-)

> The most freaked out by all this is Oz himself. It turns out that his
> "cure"is actually making him more dangerous. Instead of being controlled by
> the moon, the wolf can now can out by any strong enough negative stimulus.

True. And Oz figures this out really really quickly. Perceptive guy,
isn't he..About the dangerous; the negative stimulus needed is pretty
huge, so mostly, it should be safe.

> For tI that's reason enough to classify him as a hostile demon and to hold
> him for al kinds of tests.

Well, it doesn't take much for Initiative fools to do that. Actually,
now they're data about Werewolves is all screwed up. Good fun :-)

> That's the final straw for Riley. He's finally coming to his senses and sees
> how fishy this whole I-thing is.

Hmm...pretty much. It's been a long time coming, and seemed a little bit
sudden, especially him trying to sneak Oz out on his own, without
consulting Buffy or any of the rest of the Gang.

> He even punches out his commanding officer, so the change is rather radical.
> Now he's a fugitive. I wander what his mom will think of that the next time
> he calls her.

I loved that scene. The whole little 'Anarchists' speech that his
commanding officer was busy with was pissing me off.."You're going
*down*, fool" was going through my head at the time. I'm really curious
about what's going to happen with that whole situation.



> In the end Willow chooses for the one she loves (everybody: Ahhhhhhhh)
> Too bad they had to turn out the light !! damn FOX, we should have had a
> kiss.

And maybe more (hey, we can all dream, can't we? ;-)

Still feel sorry that the whole Oz thing is finished, for good,
probably.

> Anyway, Oz leaves again, probably working on some better emotion control.
> Now who could have guessed Oz would ever need that?

Well, he only needs to deal with not having Willow any more. That's
always been his emotional weak spot.



> O yeah, Spike teams up with Adam. Still vague why Adam needs Spike. All that
> stuff about Buffy leading the humans?? sound like more stuff that needs be
> worked out in the eps left in this season.

Adam is busy playing all the parties against each other, as near as I
can make out. Spike is his inside guy on the human side; he can help
drive a wedge between them, screweing everything up just a little more.
Now he has the Initiative vs. the Scoobies vs. the Demons he's been
messing with..

Mattia
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Arkasha

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Oct 30, 2000, 11:52:10 AM10/30/00
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Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
> Arkasha wrote:
> >
> > Spoilers for New Moon Rising
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> > It was getting so nice between Willow and Tara, they were even


getting a
> > secret pet!
>
> I'll vote for Miss Kitty Fantastico..nifty name. Although, like
Willow,
> I'm more of a Dog person, really..

I'm a real "death to all dogs" person myself. But i'm sure Willow and i
can work something out...

> > And than Oz shows up. You could really feel the tension radiate of
the
> > screen. Giles tries the all British solution, by offering thee, but
even
> > that doesn't work.
>
> Right. Although nobody else seemed to notice the source of the
tension.
> Are they all blind or something? Looks that way sometimes..

I looks like nobody picked up on the Willow Tara vides, but the fact of
Oz showinf up would be enough to creat a quite akward moment.

> > You could clearly see how confused Willow was with the whole
situation.
> > When Oz shows her the full moon, she's genuinely happy for him.
>
> That was a pleasent surprise..intersting development as well.

When she hugs Oz, you really get a deja-vu feeling of how things used to
be.

> > And then Tara shows up, possibly drawing the wrong conclusions.
>
> Kind of a standard ply that..how many times have we had that happen
;-)
>
> > Now Willow has to come straight with herself, with Buffy and with
Tara.
> > Buffy apparently hadn't picked up any hints!! and is therefor
somewhat
> > freaked by the news. But she seems to understand in the end.
>
> She seems to accept it pretty quickly, actually. Much to her credit. I
> still can't get over the fact nobody noticed anything though. Either W
> and T have been very very discreet, or the rest of the gang is
> completely blind.

People often don't see what's right in front of them. Especialy with two
girls, you can pass it of as a close friendship for a long time.

> > Tara is (annoyingly) unsure of herself, and assumes Willow will go
back to
>
> Seems a little familiar, actually. Reminds me of Early Willow.

Was Willow ever that insecure? maybe it's just the stutter that makes it
looks worse in Tara

> > Oz. I was practily yelling at my TVscreen for Tara stand up for
herself !!
>
> Which would have been out of character. It was handled well, IMHO.

I know, but i think they were overdoing the shy-insecure stuff a bit to
much.

> > But i guess she isn't ready for that yet. Good thing Willow is
sticking by
> > her.
>
> I guess..I'm still sort of a pro-Willow/Oz kinda of guy, but I guess
old
> habits die hard. Oz is and always will be more amusing than Tara can
be
> (unless she changes a lot, at least ;-)

I really really liked Willow/Oz too. I have always felt more involved in
their romance then i ever was in Buffy/Angel (or X/C, or G/J, or X/A or
B/R). But Tara has lots of potential to grow and there's lots of stuff
we don't know about her yet.
So i'm really excited to see it all develop.

<snip some oz stuff>


> > That's the final straw for Riley. He's finally coming to his senses
and sees
> > how fishy this whole I-thing is.
>
> Hmm...pretty much. It's been a long time coming, and seemed a little
bit
> sudden, especially him trying to sneak Oz out on his own, without
> consulting Buffy or any of the rest of the Gang.

Now that you mension it, that is kinda strange. Maybe there was no time,
or he wanted to surprise Buffy.

> > He even punches out his commanding officer, so the change is rather
radical.
> > Now he's a fugitive. I wander what his mom will think of that the
next time
> > he calls her.
>

> > In the end Willow chooses for the one she loves (everybody:


Ahhhhhhhh)
> > Too bad they had to turn out the light !! damn FOX, we should have
had a
> > kiss.
>
> And maybe more (hey, we can all dream, can't we? ;-)

Side tracking a bit: i actually found a W/T fanfic that's called "the
shower"

<snip rest>

Arkasha

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Mattia Valente

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Oct 30, 2000, 12:10:05 PM10/30/00
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Hmmm...really? Ever owned a dog? Or just have really bad experiences
with dogs? BTW, my deifition of 'Dog' does not inlcude small lap dog
things. It's gotta be a medium sized animal to qualify ;-)



> > > And than Oz shows up. You could really feel the tension radiate of the
> > > screen. Giles tries the all British solution, by offering thee, but even
> > > that doesn't work.
> >
> > Right. Although nobody else seemed to notice the source of the tension.
> > Are they all blind or something? Looks that way sometimes..
>
> I looks like nobody picked up on the Willow Tara vides, but the fact of
> Oz showinf up would be enough to creat a quite akward moment.

True enough...

> > > You could clearly see how confused Willow was with the whole situation.
> > > When Oz shows her the full moon, she's genuinely happy for him.
> >
> > That was a pleasent surprise..intersting development as well.
>
> When she hugs Oz, you really get a deja-vu feeling of how things used to
> be.

Yes, and also a sinking feeling, that things can never be like that
again.



> > She seems to accept it pretty quickly, actually. Much to her credit. I
> > still can't get over the fact nobody noticed anything though. Either W
> > and T have been very very discreet, or the rest of the gang is
> > completely blind.
>
> People often don't see what's right in front of them. Especialy with two
> girls, you can pass it of as a close friendship for a long time.

Hmm...I guess so. Girls are much easier with the hugging and such, even
when there is no sexual attraction involved, than guys are.



> > > Tara is (annoyingly) unsure of herself, and assumes Willow will go back to
> >
> > Seems a little familiar, actually. Reminds me of Early Willow.
>
> Was Willow ever that insecure? maybe it's just the stutter that makes it
> looks worse in Tara

I dunno if she was ever as insecure as 'early' Tara, but she was pretty
damn insecure at first. See the whole Xander/Willow situation, and the
lack of communication there.



> > > Oz. I was practily yelling at my TVscreen for Tara stand up for
> herself !!
> >
> > Which would have been out of character. It was handled well, IMHO.
>
> I know, but i think they were overdoing the shy-insecure stuff a bit to
> much.

Maybe, but they're being consistent.



> > Hmm...pretty much. It's been a long time coming, and seemed a little bit
> > sudden, especially him trying to sneak Oz out on his own, without
> > consulting Buffy or any of the rest of the Gang.
>
> Now that you mension it, that is kinda strange. Maybe there was no time,
> or he wanted to surprise Buffy.

I guess so..but it's very un-Riley to do anything without direction.
He's follow orders boy, that guy is.



> > > In the end Willow chooses for the one she loves (everybody: Ahhhhhhhh)
> > > Too bad they had to turn out the light !! damn FOX, we should have had a
> > > kiss.
> >
> > And maybe more (hey, we can all dream, can't we? ;-)
>
> Side tracking a bit: i actually found a W/T fanfic that's called "the
> shower"

TLSS!!! Got a link for that?

;-)

Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]

Arkasha

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Oct 30, 2000, 12:47:26 PM10/30/00
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My parents own a dog (smallish), who i hate, and a cat, who i love.

<snip>


> > > > You could clearly see how confused Willow was with the whole
situation.
> > > > When Oz shows her the full moon, she's genuinely happy for him.
> > >
> > > That was a pleasent surprise..intersting development as well.
> >
> > When she hugs Oz, you really get a deja-vu feeling of how things
used to
> > be.
>
> Yes, and also a sinking feeling, that things can never be like that
> again.

Exactly ;-((

<snip>


> > > Hmm...pretty much. It's been a long time coming, and seemed a
little bit
> > > sudden, especially him trying to sneak Oz out on his own, without
> > > consulting Buffy or any of the rest of the Gang.
> >
> > Now that you mension it, that is kinda strange. Maybe there was no
time,
> > or he wanted to surprise Buffy.
>
> I guess so..but it's very un-Riley to do anything without direction.
> He's follow orders boy, that guy is.

Maybe he's "a new man"

> > > > In the end Willow chooses for the one she loves (everybody:
Ahhhhhhhh)
> > > > Too bad they had to turn out the light !! damn FOX, we should
have had a
> > > > kiss.
> > >
> > > And maybe more (hey, we can all dream, can't we? ;-)
> >
> > Side tracking a bit: i actually found a W/T fanfic that's called
"the
> > shower"
>
> TLSS!!! Got a link for that?
>
> ;-)

Ooops i got it a bit wrong. It's called "Night showers", but i'll guess
that will do too:

http://www.peccath.com/extraflamey/mainframe.htm
then go to Stories>The Vault>[G-M]>Katie Vieceli
Oh yeah, this perticular fic is rated NC-17, so don't go there if adult
fanfiction is not your stuff, or if you're under 17 !!!!
There's also lots of G/PG rated willow/tara fanfiction.

Arkasha

P@rick

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Arkasha wrote:
> Mattia Valente wrote:
> > Arkasha wrote:

> > > Side tracking a bit: i actually found a W/T fanfic that's
called
> > > "the shower"
> >
> > TLSS!!! Got a link for that?

> Ooops i got it a bit wrong. It's called "Night showers", but


i'll guess
> that will do too

I don't have a link, but I do have a story. It's a beautiful
story by Kate Bolin, and it's rated 'R', whatever that means. It
has some sex, but it's all very tasteful. So:

***** don't read any further if you are easily offended by the
portrayal of
lesbian love *****

TITLE: Shower
AUTHOR: Kate Bolin
EMAIL: dym...@ametro.net
WEBSITE: http://www.dymphna.net/fanfic
SUMMARY: Willow and Tara take a shower
RATING: R, I'd say. Not extremely graphic, but there is sex
ARCHIVE: Lists only
DISCLAIMER: The characters and universe herein are the property
of Joss
Whedon, Warner Brothers Network, 20th Century Fox, Mutant Enemy,
Sandollar, Kuzui, and Greenwolf Productions. The piece of
fan-written
fiction below does not intend to infringe upon copyright or
trademark.
AUTHOR'S NOTE: Hey, Rose -- here's your shower scene. Is it
tasteful enough?


Shower

Showers were an interesting thing. Soft water pulsing down your
back,
smooth wet heat tracing a pattern over your skin, as you rubbed
the soap
between your hands, building up a lather nice enough to spread
over your
body.
Or maybe the lather will go onto someone else's body, someone
standing
before you waiting patiently, dripping slightly chilled water
onto cooler
tile. Skin against skin, hands against spine, trailing soap
bubbles along
the path of bones.
Showering together was a new thing for Willow and Tara. First
came
magic, then came kissing, then came the night spent together,
wrapped in
each other's arms against the future they had just witnessed in
a spell
they had sworn they would not do. And when their bodies could no
longer
just hold the other, had to touch, and taste, and feel, then
came the
shower, giggling and goofy, steam obscuring the huge stupid
grins on their
faces -- the grins of those first few fleeting moments of love
shooting
through their veins.
Willow smoothed her soapy hands over Tara's body, mapping every
inch of
flesh with the impermanence of soap film. The identifications of
muscle,
bones, tissues, anatomy 101 honors, ran through her mind as she
touched
her.
Cervical vertebrae, jugular vein, trapezius, clavicle, sternum,
cooper's ligament, areola, nipple -- hands cupping breasts as
her mouth
traced over the gentle curve of Tara's jawline -- mandible,
temporal,
zygomatic arch before dipping back down to her lips.
Soapy hands slid down further, past the delicately curved
stomach (that
potbelly Tara occasionally complained about, but Willow always
thought it
was cute), pushing against hipbones, comfortably padded, so no
marks were
left when Willow pushed Tara against the cool tile wall, no
marks on
Tara's hips, unlike the marks left on Willow's knees, still
somewhat
boney, faint bruises forming from the tile floor as she knelt
between
Tara's legs.
The anatomy lesson began again, words appearing in the back of
her
mind, deep in her mind, crammed down by primal urges of
sensation and
emotion. Abdominal muscle, pubic bone, labia majora, labia
minora,
clitoris -- Willow's tongue rewrote old anatomy books, old
diagrams
missing the single piece of flesh so important at this moment.
Tara's hands slid through Willow's hair, water still cascading
down
from the lime-scaled showerhead, tapping a rhythm on Willow's
neck and
shoulders, a rhythm Willow echoed in her movements until Tara
cried out --
softly, softly, don't wake the dorm -- and slowly slid down the
shower
wall, down to kiss the girl smiling gently as the water fell
down on her.


Bye, Patrick

P@rick

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Arkasha wrote:
> Mattia Valente wrote:

> > > Side tracking a bit: i actually found a W/T fanfic that's called
"the
> > > shower"
> >
> > TLSS!!! Got a link for that?

I don't have a link, but do have a story. Posting this the second time,
because the first one was messed up (64 characters in one line instead
of 72 characters in this message). I cancelled the first one, but don't
know whether that succeeded.
Anyway, DON'T READ this story if you're easily offended by implicit
portrayal of (lesbian) sex. It's rated R, whatever that means. But I
think it's tasteful rather than explicit.

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