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P@rick

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Been away for a while. Reading *and* replying to all those postings is just
too much. So I'll just do a late review of Hush to sum all my replies up.
And what better way to live up to my title as Threadmaker [tm]? Problem is,
since Hush has been discussed to death already, I don't expect much
response. Does one posting alone count as a thread too? Ah well, here goes
nothing...

***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the moment you have all been waiting for. This episode
had it's reputation advancing way ahead of it. Especially for those spoilery
inclined. And I say it did live up to it's reputation.

For one thing, this ep was high on comedy. It puts the comedy in
horror-comedy. For another thing, it was high on story development.
Introduction of new character, Buffy and Riley kissing, Buffy and Riley
coming out (well, not completely, the ending scene looked like laryngitis
had struck once again...).

Let's start off with Buffy's dream. They are known to be kinda prophetic.
First, Riley says his kiss will make the sun go down, and apparently it
does. Should we account this to fainting? ;o) When they kiss for real
later on, it doesn't seem to have any repercussions (well, maybe for some of
the viewers it has).
Then, Buffy says Fortune favors the brave. Later on, in 'real' life, she
repeats this. I don't get why she says that, on both accounts. Someone got
an idea? (I'm sorta counting on Peter here ;o).

A few scenes later, Anya introduces the term Orgasm Friend (Haven't got one
yet? They're so time saving!). Of course Spike get's back at that to Xander.
Spike is very perceptive and sarcastically funny. Ah well, if he can't pose
a real threat, let him be sarcastically funny.
It seems that The Writers want the X/A thing to grow more meaningful, as
they gave Anya doubts about the relationship and made Xander prove his
feelings (at the cost of poor Spike).

The Gentlemen were genuinly scary. The way they kept smiling with their
silver teeth, floating a few inches above the ground, persuing victims
slowly but persistently.
The gnomes in Restraint Jackets were spoiling the picture IMO. They served
as punching bags for Buffy and Riley later on. But for me, they didn't have
a real function. The Gentlemen would be even more scary without them.
They were hiding in the clock tower. It seemed that they started each tour
de coeur an hour later, starting with one o' clock (although from the
inside, the indicators showed a different time). Was there, again, some
hidden meaning to that?

Some things on the Initiative's role here. Can someone explain how Riley and
Forrest managed to escape the Lethal Countermeasures. Was this Walsh's
doing?
Another thing, why did Riley patrol on his own? Seems rather sloppy and
dangerous in the given situation.

Extrapolating on the Riley theme, I liked the way Buffy subtly snapped the
guy's wrist when she approached Riley. The kissing that followed was a clear
case of Shut Up And Kiss. Still don't get what she sees in him. Is it just
appearance? Is that taken from us as a Man Only thing as well ;o)
Like I said, B and R got a lot to talk about. But not in this ep (which I
expected they'd do). Now I'm guessing they will come up with some lame
explanations in the next ep.

The Scooby Briefing thing was done perfectly. Music choise (Camille
Saint-Saëns, Danse Macabre) was excellent, although they used a short
version. The whole scene was full of greatness: Giles' slide show
(anticipating the questions from the audience), Anya with the popcorn/cinema
attitude, Buffy's hand gesture ('nuff said) and being offended by her 'fat'
portrayal, Willow getting all excited about giving the right answer, Xander
mistaking hearts for boobies (don't we all make that mistake sometimes?).
Come to think of it, Oz (sigh) would have fit perfectly in this scene (sigh
again).

Please let me comment on Willow in this ep (here he goes again..). The magic
she works with her facial expression... it just highlighted even more in
this lineless ep. It reminded me yet again why I love her so much. For
instance, when she greeted Giles in written form, her look was to die for.
When she walked the street earlier on with Buffy, I even thought I
recognised the VampWill walk from DGL (when she's all confused at the
beginning of the ep). But maybe this is only for those who can spell every
Willow scene ;o)

The introduction of Tara was rather inventive. I like her already. She's a
perfect friend for Willow, although she does make Willow look as Miss Self
Confidence '99. From what I've seen, Tara has much greater powers than
Willow. But Tara speaks differently. Or does she just mean she likes Willow
as a person? Anyway, I can see the two of them becoming close friends. That
might get her mind off from mourning about Oz. A positive thing is that
Willow seems to have learned from her mistakes ('Besides... spells going
awry, friends in danger...'). And that's a good thing.

I loved this ep! The best scenes were acted without a single line. Now
that's a sign of class. Not that I needed confirmation on the Greatness of
Buffy. This ep started some nice story developments. Let's see how they
continue.

One last thing. In the opening credits, I see a bald man with symbols where
his eyes should be. Light flashes in his face, and it's somewhere at the end
of the credits, right after Spike. What ep is he from? I find him rather
scary, but I don't remember seeing him before.

Well, this Wednesday The Wish on BBC if I'm not mistaken. Gentlemen, start
your keyboards!

Bye, Patrick
--
Keeper of the Willowism, "And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be damned!"
Protector of Willow and Oz waking up together
Keeper of the Wily Willow Charms
ThreadMaker [tm]

Mattia Valente

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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Just a quick reply, don't have much time, more later..

"P@rick" wrote:
<SNIP>>


***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
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> One last thing. In the opening credits, I see a bald man with symbols where
> his eyes should be. Light flashes in his face, and it's somewhere at the end
> of the credits, right after Spike. What ep is he from? I find him rather
> scary, but I don't remember seeing him before.

I'm not exactly positive, but that image is from a season 3 ep,
specifically the one where the evil thing is trying to turn Angel bad
(was it 'Amends'? Pretty sure it waws Amends...) again, with all the
flashback things, hallucinations and such stuff. They're those eyeless
priest fellows.

Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]

Peter Kleiweg

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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P@rick skriver...

> ***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
> "
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> .
> .
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> .
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> Then, Buffy says Fortune favors the brave. Later on, in 'real'


> life, she repeats this. I don't get why she says that, on both
> accounts. Someone got an idea? (I'm sorta counting on Peter
> here ;o).

It's a reference to Star Trek, DS9. Not my cup of tea. I didn't
get it then either.

> The Gentlemen were genuinly scary. The way they kept smiling
> with their silver teeth, floating a few inches above the
> ground, persuing victims slowly but persistently.

This is a European group. Why use those silly American units
that nobody understands?

> Extrapolating on the Riley theme, I liked the way Buffy subtly
> snapped the guy's wrist when she approached Riley. The kissing
> that followed was a clear case of Shut Up And Kiss. Still
> don't get what she sees in him. Is it just appearance?

I still don't understand what Riley sees in Buffy.

> [...] Xander mistaking hearts for boobies (don't we all make
> that mistake sometimes?).

Another classy joke slipped me by unnoticed.

--
Peter Kleiweg | P e t r o n o m i c o n |
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Guardian of Spike's Innocence, and his Dislike of Puppies
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I'm real unfocused. I have all these thoughts, and I'm pretty
sure they all contradict each other.
-- Cordelia, Invisible Girl


Jonathan Black

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Peter Kleiweg wrote:

> P@rick skriver...


>
> > ***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
> > "
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
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>

> > Then, Buffy says Fortune favors the brave. Later on, in 'real'
> > life, she repeats this. I don't get why she says that, on both
> > accounts. Someone got an idea? (I'm sorta counting on Peter
> > here ;o).
>

> It's a reference to Star Trek, DS9. Not my cup of tea. I didn't
> get it then either.

I don't think it's a reference to DS9 as such, just that it's a
famous saying that they are both references to (or just "uses of" if
you like). Captain Sisko actually uses a slightly different
variation, "Fortune favors the *bold*." and the ep in question is in
fact entitled `Favor the Bold'. I don't really know where this
"famous" saying originated, but this page has it as a Latin one:
"audaces fortuna juvat".

http://www.h-and-t.com/quotations/latin.html

> This is a European group. Why use those silly American units
> that nobody understands?

OK, `silly' I won't go into, but what's American about them? Aren't
they just a British?

--
J o N a T H a N

"I once drank an entire gallon of Gatorade
without taking a breath."
--Xander `Angel'
Buffy the Vampire Slayer


Hooresi

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Jun 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/8/00
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"Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> schreef in bericht
news:393E1366...@std.vu.nl...

> Just a quick reply, don't have much time, more later..
>
> "P@rick" wrote:
> <SNIP>>
> ***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
> > "
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > "
> > One last thing. In the opening credits, I see a bald man with symbols
where
> > his eyes should be. Light flashes in his face, and it's somewhere at the
end
> > of the credits, right after Spike. What ep is he from? I find him rather
> > scary, but I don't remember seeing him before.
>
> I'm not exactly positive, but that image is from a season 3 ep,
> specifically the one where the evil thing is trying to turn Angel bad
> (was it 'Amends'? Pretty sure it waws Amends...) again, with all the
> flashback things, hallucinations and such stuff. They're those eyeless
> priest fellows.

I can`t remeber that creature either, who says that it isn`t from a piece
that is cut out the episodes. :o)
The shining eyes dude(some arab thing and friend from giles, seems later on)
I remember, we thought he was a baddy, but he was a goody.
Who the guy is with the runes in the place of his eyes, i have no idear.
One symbolising the tree of wisdom(the upside down peace sign without the
circle :o) )
The other, I have no idear. :o/

> Mattia
> ReplyMeister[tm]

Paul Songer

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Peter Kleiweg <kle...@let.rug.invalid> wrote in message
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> P@rick skriver...

>
> > ***SPOILERS Buffy 4.10 Hush***
> > "
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
>
> > The Gentlemen were genuinly scary. The way they kept smiling
> > with their silver teeth, floating a few inches above the
> > ground, persuing victims slowly but persistently.
>
> This is a European group. Why use those silly American units
> that nobody understands?
>SNIP.


Its the UK standard with most people. I am 24 and I can visualise inches
much more effectivly than cm. Strange 'cause we all know that imperial
measurement is a load of old cobblers!

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